5.....4....3....2...1"I gave you fair warning, beware"
I'M CARVIN' MY INITIALS ON YOUR FOREHEADSO EVERY NIGHT BEFORE BED YOU SEE THE B.P. SHINE OFF THE BOARDHEAD
Thank you goat
>>15083978Damn this nigga fat
how do blackcels cope with the fact that he was better than Pac and Big?
>>15083978*glass breaks*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiwvPmRTv6M
dead in the middle of little italy raped by two middle men who ding ding diddily
>>15084141How do Ricans cope with the fact that Pun was a one hit wonder?
>>15084151Nah thats you
>>15084151who gives a shit about hits. This is about LYRICISM. MCing. “Hits” are for women and literal homosexuals
>>15084156So you're an AEWtist. Got it
>dude dies as he hits it big so his multiple hits over the next years were all shit he never even got to properly finish>uhhh why didn't he have more hits wtfzoomers I swear...
>>15084160Drake is GOAT because he has the most #1 songs
>>15084166>>15084160
>>15084166greatest of all (kid) touchers
did rap actually have soul back then or was it just the late 90s? this looks like so much fun>https://youtube.com/watch?v=SFHpyqytM-E
>>15084151Did It's So Hard not chart well? Heard it everywhere back in 2000, but I was 12 in Rochester kek
Pun was so good that he got Fat Joe over>>15084150Kek came here to post this
Dude was built like H&R block
>>15084257Fat Joe was over before Big Pun but benefited heavily from having his material ghost written for him.
>>15084191It was just more soul. All it takes is listening to any rap song past 2013 to hear how shit it’s gotten
>>15084191New rap is so much different that it might as well be a separate genre
Opiates and benzos unironically destroyed rap. Texas in the 90s figured out how to be addicts without it compromising their rap output (even though it sawdusted all their hearts and they died young) but since 2010 rap became shit because all the young rappers are junkies
>>15084141He wasn’t better than B.I.G. Biggie is recognized as the greatest rapper ever. The only thing that people can say was that his catalogue isn’t big enough, but most people with a clue know he proved with 2 albums, guest spots, unreleased stuff and all the archival material that he’s the undisputed GOAT. He was legit casually brilliant at rapping. Maybe because he was fat and ugly he had to make up for it with charisma and talent but whatever it is, he was the best to ever do it, in an era where hip-hop was still not mainstream to boot. He’s one of the people directly responsible for rap music becoming pop music. He also had Puffy (maybe rightly) forcing him to rap a certain way, over certain beats and pushing him to be a crossover star. He dropped hit after hit in a style he himself hated. It’s equivalent to something like Prince deciding he was going to play guitar and showing up everyone at the Rock Hall of Fame performance and the guy doesn’t give two shits about Rock music. Pun was a great rapper and he was a star in the rap world and especially the east coast rap world but other than that he’s a footnote to Fat Joe’s career who he’s 100x’s better than. >>15084195The Roch is in the building. Rap wasn’t moving tons of units back then. It didn’t even get radio play on pop stations until right around/after pun had died. There’s outliers like the Beastie Boys and Eminem. A few songs here and there or a few albums that were big but to hear hip hop back then you had to specifically listen to a rap station or wait until the rap show came on MTV or watch BET or whatever.
What about kool g rap and necro
>>15083978Taz looks rough these days.
>>15084135Too much talent for his mortal vessel to contain.
>weighed 300 lbs at 21>weighted 698 lbs at deathDEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF LITTLE ITALY LITTLE DID WE KNOW WE FINNA’D TWO MIDDLE MEN WHO DINGA DONG DIDDLY
Was Cana a a legit rapper
Great value Big Pun
>>15084785Cena ****
>>15084719Weird that you mention it but Pun is on record saying Kool G was the GOAT and his personal favorite rapper. You can’t unhear it after that. All that dead in the middle of little Italy type shit comes straight from Kool G Rap
>>15084191Yes, '80s, '90s and even early 2000s rap had soul. Rap's soul died when Hey Ya came out.
>>15084191>>15084376>>15084417what you are looking for is called 'boom bap' and it still exists. also pac and big were not the greatest
wtf happened to taz
Why doesn't anybody ever talk about Big Daddy Kane in GOAT discussions?You young fellas are disrespectful as hellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAjt6zPkYI8
>>15085158Rakim's jannettyAnyway canibus is the GOAT, g rap and rakim are also valid picks for their influence but nobody ever did it better than bis, pun is great but overrated imo
>>15085254Kane is the better lyricist, Rakim just had better subject matter
>>15084146WEIGHIN IN AT A COMBINED WEIGHT OF 1200 POUNDS
big pun legit one of the best to ever spit in a mic
Wiggers should be skinned alive
>>15083978Damn, Eddie Kingston lost some weight. Good for him!
>>15085254Canibus should've had a better career, good rapper but I remember being let down by his debut after it was hyped in the source for weeks. Rip tha jacker is kino though
I'M BIG PUN I'LL RIP MY PRICK THROUGH YA HOOTERSI'M SICK, YOU COULDN'T MEASURE MY DICK WITH SIX RULERS
>>15084834Kool G popularized multi syllable stuff. Kool G and DJ Polo laid the blueprint for the others to follow
>>15085254Canibus style, flo and presence was mid. Lyrics were good but non stop overly detailed punchlines just don't grab the streets attention for long. He's like Chino XL and Hopsin- there only considered goats among Internet nerds and corny backpackers
>>15084150KEK based
Old school rap is officially cringe and unbased. Unless you’re talking about 2pac or big just keep it to urself at this point
>>15086198Kool G also wasn't just a guy who sort of faded like a bunch of 80s guys. I'd argue though not as influential 4,5,6 is his best album.
>>15086314Hopsin? Wasn't his audience more skater kids, like wolfgang fans who didn't want to listen to that shit. I'd say more K-Rino, where if you don't love his stuff the nerdiest people on the planet will spam you with messages.
>>15086384biggie isn't even a top 3 fattie on this board anon
>>15086384I fucking hate zoomers so much and don't understand why they have an aversion to anything made before their time. Other generations were able to appreciate older stuff but zoomers seemingly can't beyond a song turning into a meme on TikTok as a novelty.
/pw/, which Pun track is the GOATDeep Cover or Beware
>>15084683Crazy how even your favorite rapper is worth even less than the most rote rock band out there.
>>15085254>Anyway canibus is the GOATCanibus overrated and I really like the dude. Poet Laureate II is top tier impressive, but there's more than just mastering a thesaurus when it comes to rapping.
>>15084683niggas could rap for centuries and still never produce an album on this level. can't believe that fat nigga was in his early 20s when he released it.
GOAT has arrived
>>15087416BOOMERANG
>>15085158he is never mentioned
YOU MADE A GRAVE MISTAKESHOULDN'T HAVE COME HEREYOU CHANGED YOUR FATEYOUR BRAINS'LL MAKE THIER DEBUT ON THE TABLE WHEN I RAISE THE STAKES
>>15083978Looks like the average, lightest, and Whitest fan of modern Professional Wrestling slop to me.
It's not a game it's war, plain and rawBlood stain the wall, when I bring the chain with the sawBring the pain to your door like death was knockinUnless you got my ends, I'ma make you twins with the Headless HorsemanHell extortion, sell your soul, live your dreamsDon't pay the cost then [bam bam] say hello to the guillotineA killer fiends for blood, screams of thugs likefiends for drugs, I don't need no loveGive me your fear, murder, respect, beer, honies and sex want hereI'll bend them checks for years, hungry and stressedYou fuckin with Chris - fuck Pun - dead the wrath for laterGet your calculator, go 'head Decapitator's back foreverCan't count how many heads I had to severHalf the niggaz I keep, I put em back togetherThat's the terror, cut open your girland make a truss out her flesh, like Buffalo BillYou fuckin with reel to reel, rap axe maniacSound bwoy killer, hack hack chain-reactTwo for one - double the death, same priceWhat would Big say? "Huh, you know that ain't right"
Is Vinnie Paz the best white rapper?
>>15087628qrd on the aryan pun theory? is soundview the gate to shambala? was terror squad predictive programming?
>>15084191>this looks like so much funthe internet broke people. too many worthless words, endless shit videos, sick porn acts, and non-stop stimulation. being bored is a gift because it give you your focus back. now you get bored you watch boring videos videos and numb yourself to thinking
>>15084191how much coke was vinnie on?
>>15087731"National Geographic has generated what the average American will look like in 2040 and it's beautiful!"
>>15084683Big L is better though
>>15087884no idea if this is true or not but Big L seems like the guy who would just not translate to zoomers you don't hear much about him these days
>>15087884Devils son is pure kino. L was a grimey dude set his own people up to be robbed etc
>>15088332weird thing about his death was how people say it was either retaliation for something his brother did or straight up mistaken identity but they shot him in the face 9 times until his head was mush
>>15088349He even set mase up lol
AW SHIT NIGGA YOU DONE GOT ME STARTEDMAMA WANTED A GOOD BOYINSTEAD SHE GOT A 400 POUND RETARDED BRONX NIGGA FROM THE PROJECTS.
>>15084376Soundcloud rap was infinitely more soulful than ringtone and blog era rap.
>>15083978
>>15087674ACKNOWLEDGE ME
>>15083978JDfromNY looking slim
>>15088358Mase is a fag and ran his mouth too much. L getting him robbed is exactly what he should do to someone like that.
>>15087777Based quads only for me to fuck up this message while on a phone call, thus proving that a lot of us are too distracted to really focus.
>>15088995PUFFIN ON THAT INDOGAMECUBE NINTENDO
>>15089038Based
GRAND IMPERIAL, COLLEGE MATERIAL, INSANE CRIMINALTHE SAME NIGGA WHO KNOWN TO BLOW OUT YOUR BRAIN MINERALI REIGN SUBLIMINAL INSIDE YOUR VISUALTRY TO SUPPLY YOUR PHYSICAL WITH MY SPIRITUAL SIDE OF THIS LYRICALI'LL APPEAR IN YOUR DREAMS, LIKE FREDDY DO, NO KIDDING YOUEVEN IF I STUTTERED, I WOULD STILL SH-SH-SHIT ON YOU
Is Jon cenas rap album legit good?
>>15089109based post over here
>>15088439>this nigga is just eating hamburger buns as a snackWhat the hell
>>15084171well he's a jew so...
>>15089414oy vey started in their bottoms now we're here
east coast coon tunes suck ass
>>15089959nah thats you
For me, it's Big Lhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGcWAddiMk
I miss g funk beats so much bros
>>15084141He was bigger than both of them combined
>>15090087>>15090087Big L > Big Pun > Big > Big Showhttps://youtu.be/jiRQvsLVVFo?si=umZ-U7oA529buSyV
>>15090103Ok how u know
>>15090123visually you can tell
>>15084141If this guy was better than Xpac and Big Show then why didn't he get a job anywhere?
Old rappers are so fucking overrated.
>>15088667Maybe for like the first 6 months before any retard with slurred speech and dyed hair was getting signed off of it
>>15084785Unironcially yes
>>15090232only because all the new tards croon in autotune and dress like fags
Favorite Wu member?
>>15090232nah thats you.
East Coast hasn't been relevant in decades.
>>15090350How not? whos dominating now?
>>15090443The south since years. Midwest comes second. Only the west coast is more irrelevant than east coast, but at least they have Kendrick.
>>15087416100%. The only rap/salsa banger I've ever heard get airplay
>>15090320Rza, one of the few hip hop producers whos on DJ Premiers power level with the added bonus of rapping on some classic tracks
>>15090320rza or gza
>>15090320odb
Which one was the Michaels?
>>15091601yes
>>15091601is this Jurassic 5 or Nappy Roots or ? who the fuck is this?
Didn’t expect this thread to do numbers when I saw it pop up late last night
>>15084191after big and tupac died rap was good until 2006.
Project Pat is another dimes rapper
e-40 clears them all
>>15091954>e-40you sank my battleship
>>15084195Big pun was not a one hit wonder. Capital Punishment has several bangers. Twinz (Deep Cover '98) is his best flowsecond album topped number 3 on billboard with 180k sold first week
>>15084863RAP died when lil wayne became a solo act
>>15086384It just got overshadowed when Gangsta rap came out. Young MC and the older guys made rap songs that were fun and chill. Then came violence in music and that hooked the suburban whites
>>15087383My nieces wont watch movies made before 2000
>>15087416Twinz deep cover is just so smoothReady for war, Joe, how you wanna blow they spot?I know these dirty cops that'll get us in if we murder some wopHop in your Hummer, the Punisher's readyMeet me at Vito's with Noodles, we'll do this dude while he's slurpin' spaghettiEverybody kiss the fuckin' floor, Joey Crack, buck 'em allIf they move, Noodles, shoot that fuckin' whore!Dead in the middle of Little ItalyLittle did we know that we riddled two middlemen who didn't do diddly
>>15091954he tried to tell us in the 90s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7vQSPBtwyc
for me its kool keith and MF DOOM
>>15084683Fine speech. Big pun sonned biggie in every way
>>15084683Method man pwned b.i.g. on his own track and Meff isn’t even the best rapper in Wu-Tang
>>15085158Big daddy Kane and everyone from his era sucks it’s all I said a hip hop hippitty ultra simplistic boomer Doctor Seuss shit shit
>>15092484except lyrics flow sales tickets influence and legacy
>>15092585Post something you think is good
>>15092536No but he has the best voice and sounds the coolest after ODBhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEnwXYJcSZc
>>15092536>Meff isn’t even the best rapper in Wu-TangI'd disagree but they're all GOAT#
nasetty is overrated as fuck
>>15090320ODB is the most based man to ever exist in Hip-Hop objectively
>>15092796Also a former knockouts champion with eric young.
>>15092794Illmatic is so good that nothing else he's done even matters
>>15090320Ghostfce or Raekwon. U-God is underrated.
>>15092838dusty overrated trash mogged by liquid swords and cuban links
>>15093033Illmatic is incredible, as are Liquid Swords and Cuban Links. You don't have to console war outside of wrestling, anon -- it's weird.
>>15093050i dont console war i just think illmatic is cringe overrated shit like kendricks 2 "good albums".>bro im a gun dude
>>15093057New York State of Mind, Life's a Bitch, Halftime, One Love -- Illmatic is full of classics. Going to have to agree to disagree.The reason it, and many other debut albums, are so good is because they're a compendium of the artist's work before they get signed, and Nas was around for a long time before he made Illmatic.
>>15090320Methodman is my fav but RZA deserves credit for how much he writes for the others
>>15092794I have never been able to get into NAS
bro literally called himself jizzer lol
>>15093086i do disagree just like i disagree with anyone who thinks good kid maad city or to pimp a butterfly (cant even type that title without cringing) are illmatics of the 2010s generation
>>15093143You seem hung up on the Kendrick shit, nobody even mentioned him
>>15086431Kool G just got better and better
>>15093057>>15093143>Kendrick outta nowhereDrakepedos stay seething
Remmeber when all the craze was the backpack shit like Eyedea and Atmosphere, hated that shit, although cage was decent
>>15093094his production is awful now how did he lose his touch so much? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrcV2W73rGc
>>15093156im not hung up, i'm just saying he's this generations nas in terms of everyone loving him but he's actually overrated. its an off topic shitpost thread about rap on /pw/. figured id drop my 2 cents. [spoiler]kendrick still bodied drake though obviously[/spoiler]
>>15093235by the throat fucking rules and slug is a GOAT
>>15093480I would call Illmatic a classic even without a single lyric because the production is just so good and kind of defined the boom bap soul beat style for the whole decade
It was written >>> hell on earth >>> illmatic
>>15091601myke, beezy went from dimes to dimeless
>>15093545that style of beat killed rap until the chronic 2001
>>15093667I've never heard such a retarded opinion in my entire life
the best white rapper
50 cent is underrated hes funny as fuck and his music slaps
Post your favorite underrated classics.Also I know Eazy E wasn't a walking thesaurus but I still consider him one of the GOATs because he was so real.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrLD2doJvh4
https://hiphopdx.com/news/steve-o-raekwon-fight-video-ol-dirty-bastard
>>15094011a fat joe song that sounds like something pun would make, like a new york giants part 2 type of thing>https://youtu.be/O0e5EbHjpAQ?si=1bBaIx4-P9XzOlB5and an overlooked nas song trapped on a metal album>https://youtu.be/_UOihJiXsTA?si=8SUJAcuURlvTHgl5
>>15094261>metal mediocre* deserve that for phoneposting on the shitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J83TLc4UrN0What yall know about that?
>Jim Jones is doing Swerve's entrance at Forbidden Door right now
CNN, network, Channel 10It's on again, street niggas that's grown men
do you see the witnessyeah im right here
>>15084263diesnt make sense sir. i am personal account
>>15090320Meff
>>15087492Illmatic is better.
Better music discussion than anything going on at /mu/ right now.
>>15090320Raekwon
>>15095081Did something happen on that board that I just blinked and missed? I swear one moment it was anons making a Drake and Josh vaporwave album together to a series of rolling K-Pop generals.
>>15086174six rulers seems like a small portion for one person, no?
>>15086384keep your opinion to yourself going forward lil beyutch
>>15095081cause this board has more oldfags compared to the other boards, which are zoomerfied
>>15094276That album is great sonically. A true classic even if I don't know what he's saying half the time. Early 90s New Jack City era music for playing in a jeep
Meltzer looking at this threads demo like
>>15095272it's 2024, bryan alvarez and dave meltzer are getting in a 15 minute argument about a big pun thread drawing more viewers than forbidden door, and you're happy
>>15093845Power of the Dollar is an underground classic GRODT is a mainstream classiclove fiddy
>>15095308Dumb ass, lay off the pills and booze. Also get a Spotify account and freshen up your tastes. No one should still be listening to rap from the 90s or even early 2000s it’s almost 2025. That shit is cringe
I listened to Capital Punishment at the gym today in honor of this thread, Pun is so sick it’s ridiculous
was anyone else into horror core?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7pWgQuZnqAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOEA0niMc48
>>15095343n*gga hip hop is the only music genre where the skill level has dropped over the last 2 decades, Griselda and Griselda adjacent shit is the only new rap worth listening to
Quit gatekeeping, fags
>>15095367nu rappers legit sound like they have brain damage
>>15095328for me its the diss where he calls out jay z for being a fake jamacian>jay is wearing dreads and running round like a yardie
>>15095386Old rappers sound just as dumb they just speak more clearly. At least the new rappers don’t take their shit serious
>>15095405>at least they don’t take their art seriouslyzoomer genocide now
>>15095403Kek
Prime example of how retarded 90s rap was>https://youtu.be/DrC_m2rfJX4?si=oIBbvDHrmAWUCrnP
>>15095450Maybe you should go on spotify and listen to Feminem and Nicki Minaj
>>15095450no one other than white nerds ever listened to Ras Kass
>>15095518Any rapper that had decent sales had 90% white audience, retard. Niggers don’t buy shit
>>15095509I’m too busy bot streaming Kendrick Lamar
>>15095549no shit dummy. Regular whites listened to all sorts of hip hop in the 90s. Only f*ggot nerds listened to shit like Ras Kass
>>15095549if by "decent" you mean going diamond, you dumb retard. That's why Eminem is the meme rapper, 50 Cent never gets mentioned, and Jay-Z, E-40 and others are the real GOAT candidates.
>>15095592Jay-Z had like 7 years of good album and two decades of shit albums. He exited the GOAT conversation long long ago
>>15095575I mean I used to post on hip hop message boards and niggers seemed to love him. And if you look at the song I posted, their whole mentality to this day is reflected in it. So your point really isn’t really isn’t relevant.
>>15095628any black posting on a hip hop message board is an honorary white nerd desu
>>15095592Black people weren’t buying albums they only bought bootlegs. So any record sales came from predominantly white people.
>>15095610Jay-Z was never good
>>15095636>any black posting on a hip hop message board is an honorary white nerd desuJust stop replying to me you’re making a fool of yourself
>>15095558For fucks sake. You're being serious, aren't you?
>>15095678Is everyone in this thread retarded except me?
kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2XUJvIRg30
>>15095649reasonable doubt is great after that meh
Kool G. Rap is the OspreayBiggie is the Hogan
>>15095724Kool is the hogan biggie is Michaels
>>15095724who is the Goldberg of rap? DMX maybe?
>>15095730Kool can’t be Hogan, he was never the most famous or most dime drawing rapper in the world. He’s the most technically skilled though so he’s the Ospreay Omega or Kobashi
>>15084191>did rap actually have soul back thenYes. Because it wasn't flooded with soulless, MK-Ultra, gay niggers.
>>15095740Kool is the nick gage
>>15095733DMX is a really good answer. Truly generational superstars who got their status via insanely maxxed out charisma, rather than technical skill
>>15095756Had 1 great album the rest meh but his run was impressive
>>15095733Nelly. Not a lot of talent but drew dimes for 3 years.
You on point Tip?
ICP were so bad that they don't even get a mention in a rap thread on a wrestling board
>>15096091Icp is based as fuck faggot
This thread is full of anons pretending to be rap historians. The truth js the first instances of rap losing its soul were in the early 90s. As it became more mainstream in the next decade it died completely.
>>15086174I don't wanna be a player no moreBut Big Punisher still got what you're lookin' for
How did Master P get so over with such shitty workrate?
>>15096970The P stood for Perfection
Who is the Ryback of rap? Ja Rule?
>>15096970Cause he's got caaandeeeeh
>>15091601Myke when he was a purely underground head that hated more mainstream stuff, objectively their best episodes is him shitting on albums.
>>15093235Eyedea is hit and miss and can be super corny but he can hit a sweet spot of nerd shit that comes off as sincere unlike other "internet nerd rap" shit of the time. He raps about Plato and shit that interests him not because he's pretentious but because that's the shit that interests him, like he came up battling and knew everyone in that scene on a first name basis for like a decade. He was just a nerd. Crazy off the dome freestyler to.Slug's great but does move towards emo shit. El-P gets shit on now due to RTJ but his pre RTJ shit was goated, Aesop as the last "white backpacker" dude is similar to Eyedea in a way, but way better and way less corny.
>>15096917Actually you can mark it the instant PE gets further commodified by a tall israeli zionist as they out professor griff as at the same time something similar happens to the scene in the west.
Rap? more like CRAP
>>15097499You will never be Japenese
>>15097504bros.... is this shinjitsu desu?
>>15096067All the time Phife.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QWEPdgS3As
>>15097205Charles Hamilton
>>15093845Gunz Come Out goes hard as fuck
>>15096917It died in like 98
>>15098823Diddy did it
>>15089109dangerously based
>>15096970>Mater P>shitty workrateEarly Master P was pretty good thoughif you don't think this is a classic, you don't know hip hophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBAN96GKidQ
>>1509996899 Ways to Die Ice Cream Man Ghetto DWere all solid albumbs the first silkk the shocker and 2 c murder albums are dope too
>>15097205bobby shmurda
>>15088995I used to hate this guy, but my friend put on the album with him, and Terminology and it made me a fan. I went back and listened to his older stuff and I appreciate it a little more.
what's the point in keeping this shit bumped like the rape threads? is it supposed to make whitey feel uncomfortable?
>>15098665I had this as my alarm song, when I wanted to run before work. After a minor mix-up it played loud while I was in a room with a 6“8“ black guy.
>>15100677maybe white zoomers? white millenials who played liberty city stories know big punt.liberty jam chad
>>15100799So, they know OP from a single song on a PSP game? Must be some song to fill 240+ posts.
>>15096970He said uhh
>>15100677It's not an anti white thread. Anons are discussing rap. If you have a problem with it, it's definitely a YOU problem
>>15100677sorry your jayvon brunson and young sqwerty staredown thread went triple plastic bag. you can thank terror squad for drawing the house on your way out.
