ITT: Moments you are still mad about
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>>16072552I was born a few months after it happened, but Starrcade 1997 genuinely pissed me off when I was watching through Nitro last year
I saw where you posted this in the thread about that reporter chick then deleted it you dumb bitch.
I will never not be mad.
>>16072575boo hoo zoomie go cry into your prime you fuckin whelp
>>16072552Vince butchering the invasion angle which made me stop watching wrestling. Should have put it off till all the big guys could invade the company properly. Flair with the NWO and a bunch of others.
>>16072552the shitty ending of WM17
>>16072580This and Cristian vs Orton make me seethe just thinking about them.
>>16072552All it had to be was anyone but him. They had the best shit ever setup with the Undertaker forming the Ministry and taking over the company and threatening the McMahon family to the point even Austin couldn't help but do the right thing and save Stephanie from that wedding which led to such a great moment between him and Vince where they shared and understanding look and seemed to have had a situational truce. The pieces were there to have this massive overarching company wide story of the Ministry vs the WWF. The higher power could've been Shane. The Jackyl would've been a great choice. Jake Roberts. Literally anyone else. Instead we could the shittiest swerve of all time that not only just led to more Austin vs Vince but completely undermined everything they had been building with the Undertaker and the Ministry going all the way back into 98
>>16072850I was surprised it was Vince when it happened.
>>16072850It should've been Ultimate Warrior
>>16072590>stop watching wrestling>still post about it 20 years later
>>16072864Yeah because it made no fucking sense. It was a swerve for the sake of a swerve
>>16072867Fuck it. I'd have even taken him. Literally anyone that would've let that story carry on in the direction it was instead of cutting the legs out from under it just say gotcha and have it go back to more of the same. ANYONE.
>>16072580It's honestly amazing how people talk about charisma vaccuums and Cena barely comes up, this nigga in 07-08 is the height of a void of likability. I'm at Survivor Series right now so I can only fathom how much worse it gets. Can't believe this faggot managed to stay around just because he was an obedient robot and thrived on kiddie sales.
I was a dyed in the wool goldberg mark as a kid, to the point where I stopped watching wrestling after WCW went under and didn't come back until he debuted in WWE. I know this is just another moment in the never-ending self-fellation that was triple H on raw in the early 2000s but it felt personal to me.>>16072850wasn't this literally a case of "all our other plans fell through, fuck it just send vince out?"
>>16072850Jake Roberts would've been kinoIt could've tied to Austin's KOTR speech about him
>>16072877>in 07-08 is the height of a void of likability. I'm at Survivor Series right now so I can only fathom how much worse it getsOh. Oh no anon. You're only just hitting the tip of the iceberg. 07-08 were his tolerable years compared to the early 2010s. Not sure how far you're planning to watch but good lord
>>160728772007-08 was still tolerable, like this anon >>16072885 wrote. His 2009-13 is far worse.
>>16072850>The higher power could've been Shanelol no, he just started to appear and was still a kid he had no power>The Jackyl would've been a great choicelol no>Jake Robertsjake was an unreliable addict. old and couldnt wrestle anymore>Instead we got the shittiest swerve of all timei agree with this but people seemed to love vince vs austin because it made vince millions so you cant fault him for milking that feud as long as he could
>>16072850>mfw remembering how bad the Corporate Ministry was
>>16072885Because I'm autistic, I'll just go until I catch up to current time. I already started since '97 last year. And if you're curious, no I don't watch the full shows, I skip all filler and low card shit or dumb skits. And mostly women's titles. Unless they're rarely good. This is my second time running through, I stopped before because I wanted to take a break. That was about 8 months ago I think. >>16072850What's even more boggling is that if they were so pressed that they couldn't think of a single good answer for who the mastermind was, all they could've done was have Taker just strike down the "head" and proclaim himself now as the true leader, how it was all a ploy to take over his "birthright" or some shit and now you established Taker as the heel of all heels. Is it a cop out? Kinda. But would it have saved the angle and lead to a more kino climax? Absolutely.
>>16072869Who do they think they are fooling?
>>16072883Jake was always a mid-card jobber. No one would have taken that seriously
.....how in the motherfuck do you look at this nigga and not IMMEDIATELY decide to hire/train him in secret, then do a surprise Bizarro Cena angle with him.How.Fucking HOW.>"b-but it would've been cheesy"Fuck RIGHT off. The Nexus storyline turned out cheesy too, but they still did that bullshit and STILL ruined that, too>"b-but he was a garbage wrestler and bad on the mic"SO WHAT. It's supposed to be Bizarro Cena, he didn't have to be a good talker or wrestler
>>16072850>>16072907I never got this. I never really expected it to be anybody but Vince. Anyone else it could have been were in WCW or ECW at time and it would have to be someone who The Undertaker would be subservient too. Not a whole lot of choices for that role. If it would have been someone other than Vince, people would just find a way to bitch about that too.
>>16072575Nitro going off the air in the middle of their rematch when Nitro had never done anything like that was worse. And then having Sting relinquish the title only to win it again is even worse than that. Finally, having Savage beat Sting to become World Heavyweight Champion kinda sucked but Hogan beating Savage for the belt on Nitro the next night is worse than all of that. WCW got lucky Goldberg was hot throughout 1998 or else they might've been dead far sooner
>>16072963He's a fag, he was DOA.
>>16072883>Jake Roberts would've been kinoif it were during jakes first wwf run. but jake was old, drunk and washed up by the end of the 90s. austin was still young and in his prime nobody wanted to see him wrestle an old broken down jake
>>16072850>The higher power could've been Shane. The Jackyl would've been a great choice. Jake Roberts. Literally anyone else.The Fallen Angel?
>>16072552The Shitty WCW invasion and Austin turning heel.
The ironic thing is, I don't even like Jericho anymore yet I'm still seething about this in retrospect
>>16072973this lil snowbunny was made for it
>>16073007>I don't even like Jericho anymoreDumb tranny
>>16072881>wasn't this literally a case of "all our other plans fell through, fuck it just send vince out?"Was this a thing? I'd never heard of any alternative plans>>16072883Exactly>>16072914Dude. Fucking dude. It hurts. That shit was so over with child me and then they did that shit and it became the lamest group ever that pissed off in the slowest way possible. Legitimately derailed momentum for some guys>>16072930>What's even more boggling is that if they were so pressed that they couldn't think of a single good answer for who the mastermind was, all they could've done was have Taker just strike down the "head" and proclaim himself now as the true leader, how it was all a ploy to take over his "birthright" or some shit and now you established Taker as the heel of all heels. Is it a cop out? Kinda. But would it have saved the angle and lead to a more kino climax? Absolutely.For sure. They didn't have to reveal it was anyone. The Undertaker had always spoken of the Higher Power in the same way Wyatt did with Sister Abigail. Like this higher being that drove him. They could've just left well enough alone with that>>16072965>and it would have to be someone who The Undertaker would be subservient too. Not a whole lot of choices for that role.I mean if you reveal it as someone onscreen and then show the Undertaker of all people being subservient to that person you're gonna go oh shit what kind of control does this person have over him. Of course it's a hard sell when it's all headcanon but if it played out on tv and that's what happened then that's what happened. If nothing else the urn has always been a means of achieving that>>16072982>The Fallen Angel?Another option! He was originally supposed to be the third guy in the Brood too according to Gangrel until Edge had to practically beg management with the stroke he absolutely did not have to give Christian a look and get him in there
Angle jumping ship to TNA when the word was he was only taking a much-needed break from WWE to deal with injuries and personal issuesNot just the fact that he jumped ship, but that he gave the remainder of his prime years to them and only came back to WWE as a shell of his former self
>>16072877I shudder at the thought of rewatching WWE in that era good luck sir
>>16073061Seething E Drone, ya love to see it
>>16073061This was based though. To the point I'm legit not sure if TNA would be around today if it hadn't happened
>>16072867It should have been dark warrior. Warrior had real life beef with vince and a motive. Then taker would have turned on Warrior for power of the ministry.
Russo claims vince saw Chris Daniel, laughed, & made himself the higher power. Vince being the higher power was kino.
>>16073079You joke, but we really were seething when that happenedThat was almost on the level of Luger leaving WWE and randomly showing up in WCWI don't think AEW ever got that big of an acquisition from WWE. Shit like that made me start to think TNA could actually become real competition
>>16073099That's what I meant.>Warrior had a significant history with Undertaker>Had real life heat with Vince>Was a Hogan-level star; bigger name than most of the roster >Had Superman booking in the past to warrant the role of Higher Power, unlike jobbers such as Jake Roberts or unknown jabronies like Christopher Daniels
The whole Bray/Cena feud especially the WM30 match where they teased a Cena heel turn/come to the dark side moment and nothing came of it, still more LOLCENAWINS
>>16073061I know we shit on TNA a lot nowadays but this was easily a top 3 best decision they ever made
>>16073120It could have been a short run too. Warrior beats austin. Austin wins the title back with interference or a screw up with Warrior & taker. Warrior & taker fued. Then Warrior goes away.
>>16072850I feel like Gary Hart would have been a great pick. Even if people didn't recognize him, he could do his Gary Hart shit and everyone would get it. If Brian Pillman was alive in 1998. Jake's a great pick, too, if it weren't for the drugs and booze. Do you think you could have gotten Mick to make another face of Foley?Also, it's not like they couldn't have beat the Ministry then gone back to feuding with eachother. It would have really given their feud more gas to take a rest hold. Hell, after a bit of fighting, Vince could have gone 'well, you know what, I hate these freaks, but I HATE YOU MORE, Austin' and sided with the Ministry.
>>16073152Too b fair, warrior went to wcw around that time & had a terrible fued with hogan. One that did damage to wcw. The mirror segment. Vince may have dodged a bullet.
>>16073152Warrior wouldn't even need to wrestle, unless a Big PPV.>Warrior beats Austin at SummerSlam 99 for the WWE title>Taker and Austin had taken time off after SS99 anyway>Rock beats Warrior at Survivor Series to win the WWE title>Warrior has a match with Vince at WM2000 to end his run
>>16073115Uh, CM Punk?
>>16073115>we really were seethingFuck, you are sad
>>16073223Why would the biggest star at the time scsa lose to warrior & not get this win back?
>>16073152>Warrior beats austinNeck yourself
>>16073224>CM Punk?Doesn't count as an acquisition since he had left WWE 7 years earlier before joining AEW
>>16073239cry more faggot. Warrior was a far bigger name than austin ever was back in 1999
>>16073252You are legit insane
>>16073252/pw/ has lost their mind.
>>16073258>>16073267zommies detected, opinion rejected
>>16073252>Warrior was a far bigger name than austin ever was back in 1999If you had said 1997 you'd have a point, but by '99 Austin was red hot
>>16073061that was Angle basically committing suicide tho WWE wanted to paid Angle to go rehab and then hire him again Angle said fuck it and went to the other company instead
>>16073276still not as hot as Warrior
>>16073115Bryan Danielson>inb4 seething ans crying that he's never been goodHe was the guy, and even though he was shelved from injury no one saw it coming.Also, Edge.
>>16073275It's just not true. It's factually incorrect. I don't know what to tell you, buddy.
>>16073280Yet he didn't die. You retards love your hyperbole and head canon here
>>16072967Pfft giving that 2 minute squash match doofus the belt is exactly when they started losing in the ratings. Maybe burying your entire roster for the same of some charisma vacuum meathead who can't wrestle and has 2 minutes of cardio wasn't such a bright idea.
>>16073294i am not your buddy, son
>>16073298Might not be dead, but nigga have you seen Angle in recent years?I think even Bret Hart might be in better physical shape right now
>>16073246If we're talking strictly jumping ship during their tenure, sure, but Punk is still an AEW acquisition from WWE.
>>16073316He would have been the same if he went to TNA or not.
>>16072580heckin wholesome
>>16073310I'm not your son but you're probably as much of a homo as my dad, fruitcake.
>>16072877>I'm at Survivor Series right now so I can only fathom how much worse it getWait until the Nexus angle in 2010
>>16072580Same. That faggot midget should have never gotten close to that title
>>16072891I still maintain that 2009 was the worst year of wrestling I've seen up until this point, and this includes the Covid era>TNA being peak LOLTNA>Jenna Morasca vs Sharmell>Raw Guest Host era>Peak supercena>Peak butterfly belt divas era>Peak THE RIDE NEVER ENDS midcard of Dolph vs Kofi>Every wrestler got a negative pop.
>>160728772009 raw might just be the worst year of weekly tv in wwe history. You're gonna see some real bullshit on the way.
>>16072552Robert Whipley
>>16072552Did Vince really think that people would boo him??
>>16072850imagine if it was Stink
>>16072563How small is that guys dick and balls?
>>16073656The only thing for sure about Stink is that nothing is for sure.>>16073660He's either ftm and forgot to pack, or he tucked so he wouldn't be rubbing his dick on Will's mouth.
>>16073630vince and the undercarder unironically said no one knew who he was even after listening to that pop
>>16073435aww... did your daddy rape you?
>>16073475>>Peak butterfly belt divas eraAgreed with all your points, but that belt was the best looking women's title
I posted this exactly a year ago and in a similar thread
>>16073873Nah, I said he was a faggot, not a pedophile.
>>16073881Not even a fan of his but that was bullshit
>>16072552I like how Dally instantly reacted like a face after that pop.
>>16072590All the top WCW guys all wait their contracts out. >VINCE BUTCHERED THE INVASION ANGLE!!!!
>>16074067>see what Vince is doing with DPP & Booker>be perfectly fine sitting at home making better money instead of getting ruined by McScatmahon
>Ending the streak / End of Undertakers careerThere's others but I'll rant this, again1. I still think Brock is great and worthy of all them title reigns and HOF worthy but Vince did the equivalent of destroying the second tallest tower to make a tiny flag to put on the tallest one in terms of passing something on with it. And later on destroying that tower too with his own created disaster with everything alleged in lawsuits.2. Terrible after care. You could say graceful exit, because Undertaker didn't lose to some twink but the most dominant guy on the roster. But then he came back for more Manias including putting Roman over for good measure.3. For the fans to see him return later just to milk nostalgia and few dollars left dry made them feel old and cynical. You gotta understand, for some getting to Wrestlemania and seeing Undertaker there defending the streak was a life long dream. It's part of the "magic".People we're just pretending they were paying to see Undertaker wrestle unmolested.4. Vince did Mark Callaway dirty, despite calling each other friends. The guy drew for Vince for over 20 years and he couldn't let him have this one gold watch before letting his increasingly fucked body retire and have a some clean record on him to milk as profitable Legend deal signed for the rest of his life - telling you, there is less demand and mystique on a "25-2" shirt than a "21 undefeated", or 22 or whatever. What crappy way to deflate something big.
>>16073039i feel like i once read it was supposed to be vince's irl brother, but i might be wrong
>>16072867that's actually legit good choice, too bad warrior was too much of a mark for himself to go with this. and that bullshit with WCW
>>16074081>DPPWe don't list our fetishes here
>>16072869Believe it or not some people come here to talk about old wrestling. It's not so hard to believe since talking about retro gaming or old films is fairly normal.
>>16072877It's crazy how fast Cena got stale. People were into him when he was drafted to Raw in the spring of 05, but by the summer people were already getting sick of him
>>16074205mark
>>16072552Kane jobbing to Austin in the '01 Rumble.
Not putting the tag titles on Laughter 7 and instead having them continue to rotate around the same yenless gaijin teams made me mad. You could have extended Tana's and Naito's knee lifespan by having them in a tag feud with Laughter 7 for a year after the New Japan Dads can't defeat the invaders.Then once Laughter 7 is finally defeated, begin Shibata's redemption angle, and complete it when Naito/Tana drop the tag belts and are freed up as singles competitors.
>>16073896not much difference. go get help, you rape victim
>>16073316Bret quite literally isWhen he did that comeback a few years ago, he bumped around like in the 90s on the house shows and no, I'm not making that upThe only reason he pretends to be a cripple on TV is because of his insurance
>>16072973>>16072973>>16072973what is this style of acting called?it seems every wrestler does it now. in the old days guys do their own thing, but literally everyone now does this stand-and-deliver over-emotive hand-waving bullshit, it’s so weird
>>16074384>what is this style of acting called?Bad.
>>16073475One of the reasons I respect CM Punk is that he and his segments/feuds have always been watchable despite all the complete bullshit that is going on around him at any given time.
>>16073475>filtered by the Divas titleGo back to your plebbit basedtubers faggot
Wrestling fig up the was krew thread post do not respond
>>16072881>>16072881This was so fucking stupid
>>16074553>contrarian cries filteredlike clockwork
>>16073475>>Every wrestler got a negative pop.why does this sound kino
>>16073039>Legitimately derailed momentum for some guysOh it hella did. It was just a really bad decision all around.
>>16072580Punk coming out right after the match fucking sucked too.Made everything since Money in the Bank seem completely pointless.
