>>16124663
Nah none of the trannitude era guys were. Cody and Roman routinely draw more money

>>16124663
undertaker owes his career to mick so yeah

>>16124663
He was a king maker and deserves respect.

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>>16124663
Foley is acting like that makes Trump a dumbass, but Foley had to field this exact question from the public for thirty years. Like, it's not uniquely retarded for someone to think if most of what they hear about wrestling is that it's fake.

>>16124663
Is it a leftist thing to shame people for asking questions and trying to stop from being ignorant?
I've never understood that shit, I guess that's why grown functioning adults have to explicitly state "there are no such thing as stupid questions" just to buffer the impending people who celebrate knowing nothing.

>>16125163
>people who celebrate knowing nothing
You've perfectly described /pw/ posters

>>16125128
yes, the public. not our very best and brightest. we want the best most qualified people to lead our country not the average dumbass

>>16125163
but there are such things as stupid questions. especially when you have the collective knowledge of the entire world at your finger tips.

let me guess - you complain about 'participation trophies' despite demanding them constantly.

>>16124663
He may be a liberal pussy but the mere mention on WCW of him getting the belt made the equivalent of twice the gayEW audience change the channel and watch it, so yeah

>>16125200
The point is that it's the take of the layman. I don't think your judging criteria should be based on how well they understand wrestling.

>>16124663
It was almost funny how many people I remember from middle school picking up Foley's 1st book and they all seemed like the type who never read anything that wasnt a skating or gaming magazine. Yes he was really over at one point

>>16125261
isn't the supposed layman in the WWE hall of fame? doesn't that make him asking even fucking stupider than the average john q public?

>>16124663
He was and is my favorite of all time. He's also a brain dead retarded faggot. Both can be true. Also his wife is a fucking psychopath and his daughter is trash.

>>16124663
He was the number three guy after Steve and Dwayne. A lot of people wanted him to be in the WrestleMania 15 main event. And then he basically handed his spot to Triple H and retired

>>16124663
>Was he as big a draw as attitude era smarks said he was?
Him winning the belt literally won WWF the Monday Night Wars. Fuck yes he was a draw

>>16125227
>participation trophies out of nowhere
kek wtf?
Anyway-- explain how trying to educate yourself on a topic is "stupid" without sounding like a triggered retard.

reminder Trump was inducted the same year as Bruno Sammartino, Bob Backlund and Mick Foley.

People forget that when Austin got neck surgery, it wasn’t just Rock and H keeping them hot. Foley was a huge part of it too

>>16125404
Mount Rushmore

>>16125366
you're crying about someone getting called retarded for asking a retarded question while also crying about leftists. personally i think it's fair to assume you've also cried about participation trophies and all sorts of other braindead boomer shit at some point in your life but if not, my mistake.

going on a wrestling podcast and asking if wrestling hurts is a stupid fucking question. there are such things as stupid questions, you seem to ask them yourself quite often. not sure what else there is to explain, if you're still having trouble understanding this maybe you could hire a tutor or something.

I was there. Foley was over. Not rock austin over but in the sub penthouse. Hell in a cell, winning the tittle on raw, and this is your life are all time moments.

if only mike tenay, ole anderson and jim cornette knew as much about wrestling as trump maybe they could be in the HOF

>>16125466
It’s a hall of fame, not a hall of knowledge. I hate Trump deep down in my bone marrow but he did pop the biggest buyrate of all time

>>16125442
The fact he held his own in the era of Rock and Austin in a way the others could not says everything anyone who wasn't there but understands how over they were would need to know. He looked and dressed like a slob and never looked out of place or like he was getting carried in matches.

>>16125436
Didn't read, you're trans. Enjoy your eventual suicide.

>>16125466
People like you cry about who's not in the hof but then say it's not a real hof.

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>>16124824
excellent bait

>>16125509
pure seethe but i do accept your concession

>>16125200
>we don't want the average dumbass
>we also want to be able to relate to our president!
pick one

>>16125327
Drew Carey is in the HoF. He didn't do jack shit besides shave Vince's head with Bobby Lashley.

>>16125526
He isn’t wrong. Mark and Paul both owe their careers to Mick

>>16125493
Foley was so over rock turned on him. Foley showed that you can get over even if you are not the chosen one. A lesson for today's wrestlers.

>>16125553
Well I don’t think falling off a cage to get over is the best lesson ever

>>16125547
Foley got credibility by fueding with taker. Not the other way around.

>>16125544
fair point and i guess trump did think mchmahon actually died in the limo explosion so maybe he's just exceptionally retarded

>>16125567
if people were willing to fall of cages to get over in the way mick was wrestling probably wouldn't be in the state it is today

>>16125567
Foley took a risk that at that point we never saw. It seems like every week now, but that was the first. He took a risk, & it paid off in terms of career success. It won the Monday night war too.

>>16125616
That didn’t win the MNW, Austin vs McMahon did

>>16124663
yes and idgaf about any wrestlers politics theyre disgusting carnies who fake fight for retards why would I possibly care what a non-real person thinks

>>16125623
No. Kevin Sullivan, the booker of wcw said that ended the war. He even said it to hogan.

>>16125623
DX won the MNW. Haven't you seen the wwe docs?

>>16124663
When I look in Mick Foley's eyes I see rape in his soul.

>>16125648
Did he bother to explain to hogan, or you, or anyone how a spot on a Sunday PPV ended the Monday night wars

>>16124663
Mick is a retard who’s trying to sound smart

>>16125200
>erm actually the very epic smart people are those who understand wrestling
Wow.

>>16124663
>another case of people stretching out fucking anything to use against a person they personally don't like
who could've guessed

>>16125744
>how did a very popular thing that happened on a company's show lead them to gain more popularity on their other shows

>>16125251
>still getting worked by the "600k+ people changed the channel" narrative in 2024

>>16125526
I mean he's right. Look at who Taker was wrestling before. Giant Gonzalez, Bundy, Kamala

>>16125577
Hi you dumb fucking zoomer, Taker was a joke from 92-96 and boring as fuck. He was feuding with IRS. The Mankind feud and the boiler room brawl made him actually watchable and look badass.

>>16124663
I was a huge Foley fan back in the day, but even I can admit, he was never a huge draw. By the time he got to WWE, he was winding down his career. He was never THE guy, he was the guy they used to get people over and make other wrestlers look good. His longest runs as WWE Champion were only like 3 weeks before he dropped the belt to someone else.

>>16125577
He was an international main eventer that had already worked stadium shows and Undertaker was baying for literally anything outside of the shitter feuds he was in for years at that point. They both fed off each other. Kind of like how Michaels needed the Foley feud to give him any sort of edge Undertaker needed Foley to bring him from saturday morning cartoon into the next era. Foley only needed to chance to show Vince he's worth tv time.

>>16126131
He was never the guy, but he wasn't just a good hand. His book was a massive success and single-handedly created an entire new stream of revenue for the company for decades. He was absolutely a draw in the era.

>>16125128
Trump legit thought Vince died when the limo exploded
he is a retard

>>16126170
You got worked. Trump was keeping Kayfabe

>>16126241
>He was keeping kayfabe on a private phone call

>>16126118
While the Foley fued made a darker taker character, the fact that Foley could contend with UT gave him credibility to wwe fans. I know you're a mark bitch bc u sound like u like Foley from Japan & wcw. But normies only know him from wwe.

>>16126170
>>16126252
wait wtf is the story there lmao
did trump actually panic?

>>16126135
No. Wwe fans saw a fat pig. Foley earned our respect over time & the taker rub (off a cage)

>>16126490
Trumps fiends with Linda, not vince.

>>16126500
>the taker rub
not a thing lmfao
you're either 14 or 57 but either way you're retarded

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>>16126514
Bro if u didn't think taker was dope as a kid, & u knew about cactus jack when u were 8, ur gay as fuck.

>>16125744
I know u don't have a job but Monday is after Sunday so a good ppv leads to good raw ratings the next day.

>>16124663
Yes.
>>16124678
First post worst post.

>>16126530
no one that wasn't a fag like undertaker before he feuded with austin/foley
sounded like a fag on the mic, only over because of his tron/theme

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>>16126557
You're seething bc taker was always over, and he helped get ur precious piggy over.

The Yoko casket match is all time.

>>16126530
the hate for taker on this board mostly comes from a single deranged lunatic, feel free to ignore his retardation

>>16124663
It doesn't hurt bc it's fake and GAY. OP is a faggot

>>16126570
you're seething because i'm right. if taker was magically erased from history then foley, austin, the rock, fuck even HHH still have the careers they had. same can't be said for taker unfortunately. however you need to cope with that is up to you.

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>>16126588
Taker never fueded with rock, haha. U don't know shit bro. Just a mark troll bitch with no gif.

>>16126609
did i say he did, you stupid zoomer fuck?

>>16126484
>the fact that Foley could contend with UT gave him credibility to wwe fans.
Yup, that’s exactly how fans talked about wrestling in the 90s, you hopeless online zoomer dipshit

>>16125329
this
not my absolute favorite but i think he's one of the greatest to ever do it and he's easily in my top 10. would probably be my favorite if i had grown up watching the AE (I started watching in the RA era, I was a bit late to the party)
generally i can separate the man from the artist. i don't care what foley thinks in his personal life, he is an absolutely entertaining wrestler and no amount of lefty cuckoldry and whore daughter will change that.

>>16126684
It was subliminal in the moment. We are discussing it retrospectively. U just don't get it.

>>16126640
Cuz u did

>>16126770
>Cuz u did
kek ok i can see why you love taker

>>16125436
You're projecting so hard about the trophy thing that I could point you at a wall and do PowerPoint presentations on you.

>>16126588
nigga nobody give a fuck about foley. he's the definition of overrated shitter. spot monkey couldn't draw with 3 gimmicks. Taker made that mongolid famous

>>16125128
So what you're saying is that Trump is as smart as a dumb mark? This is the "intelligent leader" you want to lead the nation?

>>16124663
>wrestling isn't fake, injuries are real
later
>how dare you ask if wrestling can hurt!
kek

>>16125406
Good point.

He never asked that

>>16125045
Now post her ass that is strangely thick and flat at tge same time

>>16126109
Not disrespecting Foley but at this point Taker was already having classics with Bret and Shawn

>>16124663
Trumpetty lost.

>>16124663
Based Mick! F Trumpetty and Undercarder. Anyone who votes for the Orange Felon supports racism, homophobia and supports white supremacism. Mommy Kamala about to bury that Cheeto like the jobber he is. Fraid so

>>16125227
getting an answer from someone with firsthand experience is better than reading about something

>>16126809
>classics with Bret and Shawn
carderfags off their fucking meds tonight

>>16125128
>from the public
Trump isn't from the public, Trump is from the WWE Hall of Fame, Trump bumps.

>>16125163
>people who celebrate knowing nothing
Nobody has actually figured out what nothing is, though, it is one of the most paradoxical mysterious things there is.

>politics
Who cares? I wish all this faggots would shut up.

>>16125544
Trump bumped, he was also the Raw GM for a while and rained down a bunch of money on the audience in a way that Okada still copies to this day, but with fake money.

>>16125616
Foley was not the first person to jump off or fall off a cage, only the first hell in a cell.

>>16126778
Its just as stupid as your "if the undertaker was erased from history, the undertaker wouldn't have the same career" argument.

>>16126925
You're a bit stupid aren't you?

>>16124663
>Was Foley as big a draw as attitude era smarks said he was?

Kind of. It's hard to explain without typing an effort post.

In the mid 90s, the IWC and tape traders were out there, but they were a subset of a subset of wrestling fans. IWC didn't get big enough for anyone to really care until the late 90s. Foley was more or less washed by the time he came to WWF in the mid-90s, not as washed as he would become doing stupid ass stunts for WWF, but still pretty washed compared to earlier in his career. He was limited in what he could do, and not in the best shape. But he had a crazy and legendary reputation. The ECW/WCW audience in the early-early 90s when he was wrestling over there was very small, so while you heard about all the crazy stuff he did, no one but like one of your buddies older brothers had seen it. Combine that with rumors about all the crazy stuff in Japan which absolutely none of us had any way to watch back then, and he came into WWF as this legendary bump-taker that no one could kill who had been blown up in Japan and still kept wrestling. Vince understood this and gave him the Mankind character to play into the mystery and to hype up his pain tolerance. Kids and goth/metal teenagers ate it up, the character connected in ways that Pillman and Raven never could, Mankind was massively over with the counterculture and smarks. But he was so different from older WWF draws that we never thought Vince would let him win, so when he became WWF champion it really meant something and solidified that the Attitude Era was different from Hogan/Bret Hart's era.

tl;dr Austin and Hogan drew the gate, but Mankind and DX are why we call it the Attitude Era 20 years later, and smarks loving Foley and Vince actually letting him win was a huge part of why people stopped watching WCW.

>>16126951
But I am not stupid enough to think Foley was the first person to ever jump or fall off a cage.

>>16126846
>implying those aren't classics
has there been a reality-warp?

>>16126943
why are zoomers so fucking dumb yet also so insistent about arguing over shit they never watched
the argument isn't that, you fucking moron. it's that all the actual stars of the attitude era would still be stars today regardless of whether or not taker existed. his legacy and status is only because he happened to exist at the same time as they did.

>>16124663
Most people don't understand that scripted =/= fake action.

>>16126962
>Austin and Hogan drew the gate, but Mankind and DX are why we call it the Attitude Era 20 years later
this might actually be the dumbest shit i've ever read here

>>16126846
His 1997 hell in a cell with Shawn even if you ignore Kane ending is probably the best hell in a cell match of all time. Match with Bret and Yoko marked the departure of his slow no selling style

>>16126979
Oh shit, I meant to type Austin and Rock. Don't know why I said Hogan.
My point remains that the college-age crowd that started coming and changed the nature of WWF crowds and television were there to see DX and Mankind. Why do you think the Attitude era ends before Rock and Austin are gone for good? It's not just because Austin sided with McMahon in one feud.

>>16126970
>his legacy and status is only because he happened to exist at the same time as they did.
No, his legacy and status is that he had the greatest spooky gimmick in the history of wrestling that drew the kids and emos alike and was one of the last workers to really maintain kayfabe through his career.

>>16127052
yeah he really maintained kayfabe by turning into a fake tough guy pseudo biker that everyone hated until he reluctantly went back to being a fake spook that didn't even work anymore because the fatass manager he had was dead
literally only fucking braindead e-drones believe this shit, taker is a fraud

>>16127075
Sorry you thought it was real and are mad at him for playing the part so convincingly for so long, the trauma oozes off of you so much, you might as well be playing out the plot of ghostbusters 2.

>>16127088
sorry you got called gay for liking the undertaker in 1997, back when everyone else knew he was gay. sadly doesn't change the fact he was a fraud then and still is today despite a made up fake fighting record that didn't even become a thing until his actual draw contemporaries all retired.

>>16127098
Sorry you can't read because your gay obsession clouds your perspective and you think actors are frauds just because you can't understand the purpose of acting.

>>16127110
oh ok, let's see the promo where taker didn't look like a queer embarrassment compared to his vastly superior contemporaries then

>Taker was just a gay loser and wasn't over at any point in the 90s
This is definitely the dumbest shit I've ever read here.

>>16127135
lots of people get over, he shouldn't even be talked about in the same sentence as foley/austin/rock/etc though but he is because he sucked vince's cock

>>16127139
I'll give you that he wasn't an actual top star when those guys were, and was treated more like an obstacle for other guys to overcome, but he was one of the only good things on WWF television from the end of Hogan's era until 1996 or so. Deadman was a straight up goofy late 80s WWF style gimmick, but Mark made it work when the only other people on the roster who weren't anti-dimes were Bret and Shawn.

>>16124824
No its the other way around retard. Mankind was getting stale, the Undertaker vs Mankind feud had been going on for 18 months at this point.
Mick threw himself off the top of the cage because it was the only way he was going to get over again. Boiler Room and Casket matches aren't going to make a overweight stunt man look good more then once or twice.
Undertaker could have gone onto feud with anyone.

>>16126109
In the early and mid 90s. We are talking about 97-98 here. Undetaker could have feuded with Austin, Rock, hell anyone on the top of the card. Mick hell no.

>>16127145
being the act on a shit product doesn't make you good, it just makes you the best act on a shit product
>>16127149
oh wow taker could have / should have / would have but somehow didn't, foley always did however. weird how that works.

>>16127118
First, lets see you cut a decent promo without referencing your own repressed homosexuality while ignoring all the available facts.

>>16127164
i accept your concession

>>16124663
are you really gonna vote for the same candidate as severely brain damaged boomer

>>16127169
Yep I concede that you can't form an argument without invoking your own repressed homosexuality, thanks for accepting the facts hopefully you can learn from them.

>>16127149
The thing people who didn't actually watch back then fail to get is just how fucking long Undertaker's storyline was, and how stale it got at certain points, leading to it changing to keep it going because Vince wrote too many other storylines into it and couldn't actually end it. First you have Purple Taker and Bearer, which got the stink of the rest of RAW on him via Yokozuna and Cornette's sillyness. They repackage him with new ring gear in 1994, but he doesn't really get any momentum from that. Then they introduce Mankind and feud the two in 1996, but it goes nowhere. So we get Kane, but then Kane gets more over than Taker (at least for like a year), and now Mankind and Taker both need to pull some stunt to stand out from everyone else. Eventually, Taker ends up with a stable, then the stable merges with The Corporation, then Vince is revealed to be the "higher power," implying this was all one cohesive story, which it absolutely was never intended to be.

And yeah, the Mankind Boiler Room and Casket Matches were/are terrible. Don't kayfabe yourself into thinking they aren't, go watch them if you don't believe me. The first 2 Boiler Room matches are pandemic pre-tape wrestling level boring. Foley had no idea what to do with the character until he saw Shawn Michaels Hell in a Cell and the lightbulb lit up in his head.

>>16127178
>still no taker promo that isn't a complete fucking embarrassment compared to his contemporaries
it's ok that you are gay for taker but I promise you he won't see this
ps concession accepted

>>16127212
Yes I saw you accepted my concession that you can't stop referencing your repressed homosexuality when you started your post by talking about your sexual fetish again.

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>>16124663
Based Trumpenstein.

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>>16127145
I get what you mean but new gen Taker was just stuck in dogshit feuds non stop. He wrestled Bundy, Giant Gonzalez and Sycho Sid at Mania. He was feuding with Kamala and Money Inc, and that's not mentioning how often he was away from tv due to injuries

>>16127281
>He was feuding with Kamala
Ah, no wonder Taker endorsed Trump, he is still hanging onto old feuds.

Taker and mankind never had a casket match you retard

>>16126109
>Kamala
Wish he'd give that bitch the last ride

If you actually watched at the time, you would know that Jeff Hardy was more over than Mick Foley throughout the AE.

Kind of. He wasn’t the main guy, but people liked him and you stuck around for his matches. There was a lot of great drawing power ahead of him during his runs, Stone Cold, The Rock, Undercarder, HHH, Vince. I’d even put Kane slightly above him. He was still great, just not the main draw.

>>16124663
I wont lie, mick just made me think. What move would Kamala have to take (and sell well) to win your vote?

>>16124663
Are you really going to take political advice from a man who lets his daughter whore herself out on OnlyFans instead of doing a few more autograph signings and guest appearances to get her health insurance?

>>16127879
she wouldn't have to do any of those things for health insurance if people stopped electing republicans, dumb dumb

>>16125329
Sums it up for me too

>>16125567
>Well I don’t think falling off a cage to get over is the best lesson ever
Everyone who actually knows their history, the cell match and Foley's performance in it knows that it got massively over AFTER Foley got massively over by being the funny Mankind.

>>16127868
Start shooting on the deep state. And not in the way Trump does, because he doesn't actually understand what's going on.

>>16124663
I don't think he has a leg to stand on when the current President's brain has been melting for the past year and the media/AEWists lied about it since day 1 and Harris is dumber than a brick
but isn't it funny how people want to rewrite history because someone said something they don't like?

>>16127868
I don't give a fuck what she says, she's been in government power for the past few years and what has she done? Look at that before anything she says now

>>16124663
What the fuck kind of reason is that?
>I don't like this candidate's smalltalk
I don't think Mick should be allowed to vote with his brain so scrambled honestly.

>>16125163
No it's not a leftist thing. There is a type of person who feels morally and intellectually superior because they decided that they are. Anything that would be stupid inside their narrow minded echo chamber is wrong and evil/stupid. They will launch into arguments, unprovoked, spamming completely flawed arguments they learned 9th hand in a game of semantic telephone where what little neutral commentary is turned into nonsense tribalism. You get this shit on this board every 30 seconds.
It's like the weird 20 year old who reads death of the author through tweets about it made by someone with crippling autism and spend the rest of their life as a deranged contrarian citing and essay they don't understand as the universal truth to why they can pretend to be smart. But it's the boomer version of that, so someone maybe sent him a video on Facebook messenger.

>>16125327
You do understand that interview banter is usually to establish context and introduce each of the participants to each others audience, right? Do you have autism?

>>16128100
>she's been in government power for the past few years and what has she done?
You asking this question shows you have no understanding of civics

>>16125163
They're the sort of people who go "so you don't know" and mean it

>>16125406
When Austin went out Foley was trash. He was bullshitting with Al Snow, floundering with Jericho and Kane while Big Show was being pushed for some reason

>>16128169
>When Austin went out the WWF was trash

Fixed. Dwaynetty couldn't carry the entertainment alone.

>>16128177
Nah, wwf was still doing record business. By the time austin ACTUALLY went out you have to realize that he himself had 1 foot in the grave since that fucking dickhead owen hart nearly killed him. Rock and HHH had firmly supplanted Austin and Vince and the companies top babyface and heel at that point, simply because Austin hadn't been able to go for a long time. Austin actually leaving for that year meant nothing, he had already been gone except for a few appearances here and there. He may have had 5 real matches on raw post owen hart and pre neck surgery

>>16124663
There's more to life than someone's political beliefs.

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>>16124663
>Was he as big a draw as attitude era smarks said he was?
No he wasn't. It's why he got dumped to TNA back in the day. Also is he trying to suggest wrestling doesn't hurt? It's not supposed to hurt but then again I'm sure it hurt when he got thrown off Hell in a Cell cage. So I don't get what his point is.

>>16128213
The WWE famously lost business in the Reign of Terror, which didn't involve Austin.
You've got to see these things from a wider perspective.
The week Austin left, business "was still good", and a few weeks later it sank because he wasn't there.
It's just like the revival from the last year, the post-Vince era. I've seen people post it every single day: "the business is hotter than ever before!"
Look at the fucking ratings and attendance figures. Look at social media.
The business isn't hotter than ever before. Youtube performance isn't as good as it was, retweets aren't as prominent and frequent as they used to be, and there's fewer people talking about wrestling than 5 years ago.
So why did attendance suddenly go up? Lockdown taught people that they don't have another time when they can go see the show live. If you can do it now, you have to do it now, there's no point in waiting.
Exactly the same thing happened after WW2. People don't want to stay at home and bide their time anymore, they wanna go out and live life while they can before someone takes it away again.
"Record business", with fewer people than ever before.

>>16128229
>So I don't get what his point is.
Undertaker can barely fucking walk, bro. The joke is Trump is an oblivious retard, just like you

>>16128213
>He may have had 5 real matches on raw post owen hart and pre neck surgery

There's no way that's true.

>>16128238
Record business because they’re making more money than ever you fucking schmuck who really likes the sound of his own voice

>>16128238
>uhhhh actually it's because of lockdowns
the one dude that managed to say something dumber than the podcast question
please get a GED

>>16126807
>strangely thick and flat at tge same time
she's just overweight with no muscle definition at all

>>16126970
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>>16127098
Mmmmm boy your mouth is writing checks your ass can't cash

>>16127075
>literally only fucking braindead e-drones believe this shit, taker is a fraud
Of course the Taker denier is some Aewtranny

>>16128316
>They raised ticket prices so much and there's enough people for the moment willing to pay these insane prices when WWE visits their country
>RECORD PROFITS

This isn't an indicator of the business being hotter than previous eras when way more people were watching and interested in wrestling. You must understand this in some region of your pig brain.

>>16128335
You should study your history, brother.
The post-war cultural boom happened because young people couldn't go out during the war.

>>16128316
>they're making more money
I didn't say they were making less money.
"Record business", with fewer people.
Imagine a forest fire and a camp fire.
The forest fire has way more attention.
What you're arguing is that the camp fire burns hotter, and is thus more influential and effective at burning wood than the forest fire.
Sit under a learning tree once in a while.

>>16128405
>Draws less than the previous year at Mania while on top
>But he kept Kayfabe!
yeah, a fraud

Anyone who sincerely cares about le epic politics has brain damage, shit doesn’t matter either “choice” will give billions to Israel

>>16128794
as they should

>>16125045
I want to fuck his son

Mick Foley is a zionist

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>>16126490
The story is Trump was told "Vince McMahon's limo exploded" and called to see if it was real. That's it. He heard a rumor, got concerned about someone, and confirmed if it happened.

>>16129097
no
Trump was watching RAW on TV himself and was either worked or confused by it and called to check to make sure Vince was OK

>>16127052
His gimmick was stupid, the main reason people say he's great is because he got the stupid gimmick over.
Undertaker and Kane are just rip-offs of Michael Myers written by boomers who grew up with the Universal Monster movies. Without other big personalities to work with the stupid ideas there is no way the stupid ideas get over. Hence shit like The Fiend failing miserably (a lot of that is also due to Bray not knowing how to work that gimmick properly).

>>16129518
Jim Johnston and Paul bearer got the taker gimmick over, he couldn't even do that on his own

>>16124663
Don't care what his politics are. Cactus Jack was based.

>>16129533
Yeah but he did do it on his own for very brief periods of time long after he was already well established

>>16124663
I'm assuming he was a draw, since he was involved with the big names and storylines during the most profitable era in the company's history.
That being said, Ric was totally correct in calling him a glorified stuntman. Mick is a tough SOB, can't say that he was a great wrestler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaDdhJ9J2Yw

IT'S UP!!

>>16130196
This is sad as fuck.

>>16127149
Don’t sell it broth…. Too late

>>16124663
Mick Foley is a child molester and Take isn't.

>>16131193
actually taker is best friends with Vince so it's actually statistically more likely he's the child molester, given what's come out today

>>16124841
>king maker
is that what you call the jobber that takes the bump now?

>>16130196
Based Mick

>>16129009
Mick made a great point about Hogan. If Hogan had the kind of matches Foley did, he'd be like the new girl in porn: "Not so fast and not so rough."

>>16131715
Don't be retarded. HHH, Randy Orton, and Edge didn't get made because Foley bumped for them. Taker got over from that but the rest had to take at least a thumbtack bump. Shit, Edge had to do an apron spear through a flaming table and pretend we didn't see flaming tables done to death by the Dudley Boyz in ECW just 7 years prior.

You all voted for Kamala Harris r-right /pw/?

>>16131838
no but i would if i could
canadian here

>>16128335
No I think he's right. I think being able to finally freely attend events again helped spark a boom period.

>>16131820
>didn't get mad
what does that have to do with me pointing out the truth?
foley made it in wrestling because he was the jobber that took the bump.
simple as.

>>16131860
So that's how he became a New York Times Best-Selling Author and kicked off the wrestling biography boom? Because he'd take the Nestea Plunge for people?

>>16128136
Dems pretending like the VP has now power when they were shitting and pissing themselves over Dick Cheney is hilarious, especially since Kamala has that backing now. And also the president is senile and clearly not doing shit on his own.

>>16124663
1997 - Sting, Steve Austin, Hollywood Hogan
1998 - Goldberg, Steve Austin, Hollywood Hogan
1999 - Steve Austin, The Undertaker, The Rock
2000 - The Rock, Chris Jericho, Triple H
2001 - Steve Austin, The Rock, Chris Jericho