1: Bad Booking>the stories are written for autistic 7 year olds2: Bad wrestlers>they are clearly untrained which is why their matches suck and look like a gymnastics meet.3: Nobody can cut a promo>every promo is about how the E is bad and how they do flips for the obese neets in the crowd because they grew dreaming of doing flips for obese neets.4: The women are all ugly>they hire ugly ass women(using this term loosely)5: Bad presentation>the show comes off as low rent and looks minor league6: Bad fans>the fans are all fat and there have been reports of terrible body odor by reputable sources. When a female journalist has to put out a PSA on X reminding you to shower and wear deodorant... that is not a good thing 7: Bad crowds or lack thereof >there is nobody at the shows and it makes it even worse than it already is to watch when the midgets are doing their flips in silence.
8: Lack of stars>there is nobody on the roster who is cool now that CM Punk left.9: New stars do not get made >there is no chance for anybody to become cool or get over because a bunch of old guys are hogging up all the TV time10: the shows have stupid names>Dynamite, Collision, Rampage, Quake by the Lake, etc are all stuff Tony thought of when he was 1111: they try so hard to come off as a rival to WWE>the eternal name drops of the E or trying to book stadiums that you have no chance to fill just comes off as desperate.12: Bad gimmicks>there isn't a single original gimmick and multiple wrestlers have the "I'm a le heckin pro wrestler" gimmick. It's all just corny ass bullshit13: Tony's X tantrums and constantly begging people to watch>your owner seethes publicly on X because the ratings suck and begs like a little bitch for people to watch the show. It's really sad to see and very uncool14: Bad commentary >The masked doofus, Tony and Taz fucking suck and make watching harder than it already is15: the company name "All Elite Wrestling" is childish and sounds fucking retarded. >When people turn it on and see Jungle Boy and Marko Stunt sucking off dildos in the ring and doing somersaults, they are NOT thinking "Damn this is some elite wrestling"
16: too many titles>there is just no need for that many championships. It cheapens them all and then Tony added RoH to the mix as well. Lol17: trying to make Ring of Honor a thing on the broadcast>It's indy garbage. Always has been and always will be so just keep it separate because nobody will ever careThese are just some of the reasons why AEW is a failure. Feel free to leave your own if you want
>>16152608>>16152611>>16152630i detected no lies
>>16152608Many people are saying this.
>>16152608When the trannies see this they are just gonna attack you OP
>>16152608Well said
>>16152608>Bad BookingTrue but it doesn't matter because AEWtists are a cult and they will gladly slurp whatever AEW puts out for them>Bad WrestlersMost of them, yes but it doesn't matter because AEWtists are a cult and they support bad wrestling>Nobody can cut a promoTrue but it doesn't matter because AEWtists are a cult and they like shitty E bad promos.>Women are all uglyWillow Nightingale is ugly indeed but it doesn't matter because AEWtists are a cult and they like fat, ugly women.>Bad presentationTrue but it doesn't matter because AEWtists are a cult and they pretend that the presentation is good>Bad fans The worst but it doesn't matter because AEWtists are a cult and they like each other>Bad crowds or lack thereofTrue but it doesn't matter because Tony Khan has infinite money and he can sustain AEW forever even if nobody buys tickets to his shows>>16152611>Lack of starsTrue but it doesn't matter because AEWtists are a cult and they pretend Ospreay, Okada and MJF are huge "stars".>New stars do not get madeTrue but it doesn't matter because AEW just raids NJPW and the Indys to find their new "stars" (see above).>the shows have stupid namesTrue but it doesn't matter because it matches the cringe taste of AEWtists>they try so hard to come off as a rival to WWETrue but it doesn't matter because everyone knows they can't even beat our wrestling school, kek.>Bad gimmicksTrue but it doesn''t matter because AEWtists just watch for the show for the heatless bangers>Tony's X tantrumsTrue but it doesn't matter because AEWtists worship Tony as the GOOD GUY>Bad commentaryTrue but it doesn't matter because no one watching the show and hence no one is listening to the commentary, lmao>the company name "All Elite Wrestling"True but AEWtists are a cult and they think the stars of David define what "Elite" wrestling is and isn't>too many titlesTrue but it doesn't matter because AEWtists are a cult who even want the NJPW titles
>>16152608wwe is run by rapists and pedophiles
1: Is run by interracial cuckold scat schizoids oh wait
>>16152608Very true
get a life, fatso
>>16152608The tranny is seething because he cannot refute this
>>16153211>>16154421>no argumentsThe absolute state of this trannoid
>>16152608This really pissed off one tubby pig because it's all true
>>16154435I told OP they would just attack him. They know deep down they are weirdos for liking AEW.
>>16154456>I told OPyeah you talk to yourself a lot fatso, you should work on that
>>16152608>1: Bad BookingValid. It's better than it's been in the past but there's still way more space to improve>2: Bad wrestlers'fraid not. Just because everyone isn't forced to learn and work the same style doesn't mean they can't work>3: Nobody can cut a promoThis is just a stupid thing to say and is wrong>4: The women are all uglyNot enough dicks and muscles on them, Paul?>5: Bad presentationAEW's shows actually feel like wrestling shows compared to WWE's lifelessly sterile overproduced shows with ending credits>6: Bad fansAnything that can have fans is going to have a group of toxic fans. You're the perfect example>7: Bad crowds or lack thereofThe low attendance is rough for sure>8: Lack of starsThis feels more opinion based. I could just as easily say CM Punk isn't cool. Means nothing either way>9: New stars do not get madeThis is just an outright lie unless you're going to just pull the 'they can't be a star if they're in AEW' bullshit>10: the shows have stupid namesAgain subjective. Smackdown didn't exactly roll of the tongue at one point and I'm still not quite sure what NXT even stands for>11: they try so hard to come off as a rival to WWEWhy would they not be trying to compete with the biggest company in their industry?>12: Bad gimmicks>"there isn't a single original gimmick"Another lie>13: Tony's X tantrums and constantly begging people to watchThe outbursts are bad for sure. Seems like he's got a clue and stopped on those. But why would he not promote his own product as the promoter? Dumb>14: Bad commentaryYou better not be saying this as an edrone>15: the company name "All Elite Wrestling" is childish and sounds fucking retarded.Calls itself WWE yet it's not wrestling nor is it entertaining>16: too many titlesWWE has more belts. 11 to 8>17: trying to make Ring of Honor a thing on the broadcastHow dare they
>>16154456>I told OP they would just attack himIs this what you piggies do on your Saturday nights? Make lists and obsess over AEW on the e'cord? Lmfaooooo
>>16154552afraid so
>>16152611>the shows have stupid namesI like how camp they are, rest is true.>the company name "All Elite Wrestling" is childish and sounds fucking retardedIncluded in true category
>>16152608Some of the women are cute, else, spot on.
>>16154552I don't know if you know this, but you're spending your Saturday defending a billionaire nepo baby
>>16154643you're spending your nights seething about him, and your days too
>>16154643Spending any time at all talking about something you like will always in every way be better than wasting a single second on talking about something you hate
>>16154643It's hogwheels' job that he doesn't get paid for pls understand
>>16154646I don't see any seething other than from you. Everything in the OP is completely valid criticism. Why you AEWtists like this?
>>16154893He's a fat crippled loser who talks to himself on the internet. It's really sad to see
>>16152608AEW does suck
>>16154893>Why you AEWtists likeOHHH GOOOOOD MORNING SIRRRWWE is a program for retarded children and its "trained" wrestlers have ended more careers in 1 spot (which the Steiners did thousands of times without incident) than everything that has ever happened in TK ring altogether.
>>16154914Kek you missed the bottom word ya fucking bonehead. Learn how to GMS ya dumb newfag LMAO
>>16152608Very spot on
>>16154929There is literally no word you could've put after that excerpt that it would make it proper English sers.
>>16154529>16: too many titlesWWE has more belts. 11 to 8WWE have 8 different belts that serve the same 4 roles across both brands. so even though they have more belts in total, they don't feel overcrowded since both Raw and Smackdown have 4 main championship eachAEW also routinely has ROH belts defended on their main shows, so it would be more like 11 to 15
>>16155249>ROH beltsThe 11 WWE belts don't count all of the NXT ones. If you want to go that route WWE still has more belts
>>16152608>4: The women are all ugly>>they hire ugly ass women(using this term loosely)Fuck out of here, the other points are somewhat valid but AEW clears WWE women in terms of attractiveness
>>16155391Facts
>>16155391GIWTWM
>>16155325you're right, if you includethe NXT titles it's 17 to 15.But here's the thing, when was the last time an NXT champion defended a championship belt on anything other than NXT or an NXT PPV, in comparison 4 of the 7 ROH championships current champions won them on AEW television or an AEW PPV(Pre-show)
>>16155445You know what, you actually make sense with this one
Someone should do a LOLAEW wiki page where you can pile up concrete evidence on why AEW sucks
>>16152608You could have just said tony
>>16154552Seething
>gets banned>comes back>gets banned within 3 hoursKWAB, fucking KWAB
>>16152608>>16152611>>16152630based
>>16152608AEW isn't great, but it is sort of a "Im trying Jennifer" situation.
>>16152608>>16154529>1: Bad Booking True. Tony Khan is booking for himself at this point.>2: Bad wrestlers Most of their talent are pretty good in the ring, though they do feature a lot of shitters too.>3: Nobody can cut a promo Nah, it depends on who it is.>4: The women are all ugly They're on par with WWE's main roster if not better.>5: Bad presentation They do good job here. They'll never be WWE level but no league (except the NFL) can match WWE in presentation either.>6: Bad fans AEW fans are the worst thing about the company and Tony caters to the worst of them.>7: Bad crowds or lack thereof Their crowds used to be hotter. They should run smaller arenas that they can fill.>8: Lack of stars Not really. The problem is that they have too many people on their roster.>9: New stars do not get made See the last point. It's hard for anyone to get over and stay over. Too many guys like Wardlow have disappeared for no reason.>10: the shows have stupid namesThey're better than most of what WWE has come up with in the last 15 years>11: they try so hard to come off as a rival to WWE This is holding them back. It was cute at first but now it's downright cringe.>12: Bad gimmicks Far too many people are allowed to do whatever they want to. A lot of cringe indie shit that can't get over to a mainstream audience.>13: Tony's X tantrums and constantly begging people to watch Tony Khan is the biggest thing wrong with AEW right now.>14: Bad commentary The commentary is pretty comfy. If you've never watched the FITE feeds during picture in picture you're missing out.>15: the company name "All Elite Wrestling" is childish and sounds fucking retarded. They could have picked a better name but it's caught on now>16: too many titles I'd get rid of the Continental title and make a Women's tag title>17: trying to make Ring of Honor a thing on the broadcast Yeah, AEW's decline started with the ROH purchase. Too many people on the roster.
>>16154552what'll really bake your noodle is that there are anons who have done this every single day since 2018
>>16156471This shouldn't be surprising but when you really take that number into account that's an unfathomable amount of time wasted out of a person's life. Like sometimes I think I waste too much time on here after like 30 minutes or so. I couldn't imagine dedicating 6 years to hating anything no less a wrestling company whose existence in my life is 100% optional. I genuinely feel bad for those people
>>16152608Dangerously based thread
>>16156471So what you're saying is AEW has been complete shit from the start?
>4 belts per raw sd nxt(5) shows >one sharedThis is not a problem because of the brand splitIts basically 3 different shows that sometimes crossover
>>16156994Or that retard dronies have been seething at it merely existing as soon as it did
>>16157118AEWtists are the lowest form of wrestling fan. This board has went to shit since you faggots became a thing.
>>16157508Kek WWE fans are legitimately the lowest class, lowest income, lowest educated, lowest common denominator of people
>>16157546Now say that without crying hogwheels. This whole board hates you and you know you bring nothing to the table you crippled weirdo
>>16152608>every promo is about how the E is badnigga, start watching AEW instead of creating stuff
>>16152608>>16152630>>16152630This got the 'cord boiling.Keep up the good work op. Best promo since quite a while.
>>16157610https://youtu.be/ca0oDVgyxj8?si=wPRMy8au8Cob_ko7Could've fooled me
>>16154529Great take. You are both based and a heterosexual.
>>16152608>>16152611>>16152630I cannot argue against any of this
>>16157565Now say that without collecting unemployment
>>16156994>>16157508Interest in pro wrestling has increased ever since AEW started. The industry is much better off because of them. I guarantee you that WWE wouldn't be selling out arenas again without the shot in the arm AEW gave the business. WWE would still have a bloated roster full of miserable wrestlers that nobody cares about. They only got the impetus to improve their product because of AEW. TNA and ROH probably would have folded too. The podcasters would be doing lower numbers. And face it, /pw/ would be a dimeless desert.That said their product has gotten boring. Even in the beginning, when they had shitters like Joey Janela and Jimmy Havoc, it was never boring. WWE's recent resurgence shows that the industry is still built on characters and storytelling. You can put on as many 5 star bangers as you want, but does it really matter if no one cares about the competitors?
>>16157795>I guarantee you that WWE wouldn't be selling out arenas again without the shot in the arm AEW gave the businessThis. Even if you want to look at it from a purely gloating edrone perspective AEW still did well by you because it forced WWE to get their shit together from the 2019 unwatchable product they were coasting on purely because they could. WWE's wrestlers now have negotiating power which has led to them being paid far, far better which in turn makes them happier and allows them to put on a better show as well. We saw what WWE was like pre-AEW. It wasn't what it is today
>>16157824>NFL wouldn't be what it is today if it weren't for the XFL pushing themNot even you are retarded enough to believe this, but you ARE retarded enough to repeat the same talking points as the other retards with no shameWithout this "WWE in 2019" talking point, AEW fan has nothing to latch onto. Nothing at all. AEW has always been a nepobabby vanity project and no amount of post-facto rationalization will change that. You'd think WWE were losing $50,000,000/year (like AEW is currently) back in 2019, that wrestlers were holding out left and right over low pay, was never the case. Never happened. But if there's one thing you can count on pathological liars to do, it's tell lies.
>>16158525This, AEW was hot for like 6 months until the novelty wore off. It's been in the dumps for years. WWE has been setting revenue records year after year since before AEW was even a thing. The main thing that changed WWE was Roman telling Vince he was retiring if he didn't let him do his tribal chief gimmick. Vince gave in and WWE has been to the moon since. Trannies are flat out delusional for thinking anybody ever gave a fuck about Kenny and his little butt buddies.
>>16157824WWE pre-AEW was still making money hand over fist. AEW did not affect them at all other than being a place for them to dump their failed talent.
>>16152608wwe is a cult
>>16158642It's actually a wrestling company.
>>16158642Weird how WWE fans chant for the wrestlers instead of chanting the company initials, like AEW fans do>"We're not a cult, YOU'RE the cult!"
>>16159364That argument is so stupid only a cultist would make it
>>16159364Nobody is chanting AEW because nobody goes to their shows anymore
>>16159419We are continuously told that WWE fans will "eat any slop that's served up", yet WWE is the one with a brand split, giving WWE fans a rough idea of who will or won't be present for the show that nightAEW fans are expected to buy tickets weeks in advance and have NO CLUE who will be on the card, they are expected to (are you ready for this?) eat up whatever slop Tony Khan decides to put on the menu 2-3 days before showtimeHave things been different for the last exactly 2 weeks for AEW? Sure. But we have hundreds of weeks of past precedent so you'll forgive me for not turning the page just yet.
>>16159587wow you talk like you're in a cult
>>16160193Say it another 15 times, I'm sure it will still be funny
>>16159587They do slurp up whatever Tony decides to shit out. As long as a couple midgets hit a couple flips they will squeal and cheer like the retards they are
>>16160657Every week they have less and less of those retards though. Some of them get a clue and quit watching
>>16159587>>16160657>>16161440Weird how e-drones can't fathom how literally every other wrestling promotion outside their slopshop works.
>>16161518Every other wrestling promotion doesn't have 150+ wrestlers under contract and a $200,000,000/year budget
>>16161956Every other wrestling promotion doesn't have $250 million per annum just in TV rights alone. :)
>>16161964AEW doesn't get that though. They are still struggling to make a profit after 5 years of being in business. The contract they got is heavily backloaded and incentive based. This is the part you idiots conveniently leave out. If WBD opts out of the last year then the contract is more like 80-90 million a year which probably doesn't cover all the dumb shit Tony wastes money on.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN AEWfags!It's the one night of the year you can pretend to be a woman and nobody will beat your ass
>>16161976>headcopin'>if WBD
>>16161982>e-drone immediately fantasises about pretending to be a womanI was gonna ask if you're gonna pretend to be a man for a change, but it seems like you already gave your answer.
>>16161982aewfags btfo
aew sucks because they haven't signed maki itoh and miyu yamashita, I would hate for them to have to drop their belts and never wrestle for tjpw outside special appearances again like yukachi but sacrifices must be made.
Younguys are fucking annoying
It doesn't suck.
>>16161985Collision will be live 2 more times this year and taped 4 more times, cancelled twice. Tell me more about how much WBD values it.
this got em boiling with rage
Based thread
>>16152608it's literally Tony that's the only problem
Crazy how wheels cannot refute any of these points because they are 100% correct
>>16158525>>16161976Part of AEW's problem is that it's not a real business that has to make a profit. Tony is paying most of his roster to stay home at this point. CM Punk hinted at this. Since they don't have to make money they don't have to cater to as wide as possible of a fanbase. Their product, IN MY OPINION, is very hit or miss. Some of the shit they do is great, some it sucks. But as long Tony Khan is okay with using it as a personal fantasy fed things will never get better. In fact it will stagnate and get worse like it's done over the past 20 months. Fans like me who've been watching it from day one are losing interest. Contrary to what Tony thinks, most fans would rather see guys like Wardlow and Hobbs over random Mexican midgets.>>16159587>>16160657That's funny. A few years ago they used to do a good job of booking matches a few weeks before shows. WWE used to get flak from Meltzer for never announcing matches before their shows. But now it seems like both promotions have changed in this respect. It really drives home the idea that Tony is booking his shows week to week with no idea what is gonna happen next.
>>16152608This is true
>>16166376Weeks out match cards aren't an issue when you're red hot. But when you start to cool down, you need to give fans a reason to take half days/days off work, arrange babysitters, find a carpool. I've had jobs I only need a week notice to get a day off, others require a full month. Imagine scheduling Wednesday off a month in advance, you go to Dynamite and the main event is Jungle Boy vs Ricochet. I'm never going again if that happens.AEW has no business being this cold while having that much talent on the roster. Too many primadonnas and not enough people that want to make $$. If you don't need it for yourself (Bucks, Okada, Ospreay, etc) do it for all the people like Outrunners who deserve to have thousands more in attendance - and possibly hundreds more t-shirts sold per week.
no cap
>>16168705>3-hour necrobumpdimeless>>16167435>others require a full month.KWAB>the main event is [headcanon]
>>16164927about $92 MILLY per year
>>16167065>he actually watches AEW
>>16152608They hire some hot women though. They had the Bunny for a while and she was crazy hot. Right now they have Harley and also sometimes Mina Shirakawa. That's not bad!
>>16152608Not gonna argue with any of that.
>>16169676>7-hour necrobump
>>16168802This, I’d only watch it for the ladies. Especially when they fight Nyla Rose cos it’s the closest we’ll get to intergender stuff.
>>16152608Sounds about right.
>>16152608You make some good points
>>16167435Tony worked himself into thinking he was actually building a WWE competitor and grew his roster beyond the point of sanity. He got so pumped every time he could tweet "x is ALL ELITE" that he lost count of how many people he was paying. AEW honestly shouldn't even have more than one show a week. No fan has the that much time to dedicate to watching wrestling. If we assume that most AEW fans also watch WWE (The recent head to head with NXT suggests this is the case) having two shows that nobody watches is a waste.>>16169691Lol!
kek this one made the trannies boil
>>16171783yessir
>>16171783>tranniesBOILING>HogwheelsOINKING
>>16152608they cannot refute any of these
>>16171775Launching Collision with a partially split roster, just to turn it into the overflow show, was a terrible mistake. I'm interested to see what happens>>16168712If you think Ricochet getting a TNT title shot, and that matchup being a Dynamite main event, represents [headcanon], then I'm afraid you're entirely too fucking retarded to have a human conversation with. You don't even understand the point of headcanon, it's just become another word in your retarded faggot console warrior lexicon to weaponize against other people; and when those people point out how much of a fucking idiot you are, you just sit there like a stupid bitch and wait for a typo or misspelling or orthographical irregularity to absolve you of all responsibility to respond. Purely faggot behavior.The day you officially fuck off from this board will be one of the greatest days in /pw/ history. You don't shitpost, you don't post OC, literally all you do is act like a fucking faggot during conversations like these because you take personal offense to AEW being criticized.
>>16174879>I'm not mad.>Please don't put in the newspaper that I was mad.
>>16174881We've been over this 100 times before, all I care about is discussing wrestling and driving faggots like you out of here. You don't deserve to be treated like a respectable human being so I will not be treating you as such.
>>16175244So you're failing at 2 things?
>>16152608that's why wbd will cancel aew soon
>>16152608Based
>>16175272Every time I spot Ojama and call him out, he goes from typing full sentences to turning into a complete bitch and speaking in memes and faggy 1-liners. So I'm winning in that regard.
>>16176047You didn't spot "ojama" in that reply kek.>I'm winningYou're not.
>>16176145So, my best guess so far is security. You're always on this late at night for hours at a time - but then you completely disappear from about 12pm EST until 8pm EST and often much later.
>>16176181Why don't mushbrains know how timezones work?>securityA characteristic you do not have KEK
>>16176206You lost me on that one, Mr. O. I don't think I've ever heard security described as a "characteristic" before. Must be lost in translation from whatever your native language is.
>>16176206>>16176272To be clear, if you describe someone as "having security", people are going to think you're talking about hiring security guards, or having a security system at their home, and so on."having security" is not how we describe being secure/insecure as a person.
>>16152608whatever happened to the rasslin jesus anyway
>>16152608As always the cord can't take criticism and have the Joshipedos on sliding duty
>How to fix aew?Push down retards like Will Ospreay Push up guys like Murphy (good gym body and great move set)
>>16152608this wasn't on their plans
>>16152608not getting rid of this one joshipedo scum lmafo
Sliding this thread? I don't think so.
>>16152608OK now this is a primo take
>>16176459He's at a homeless shelter telling other hobos 10 reasons they fucking suck
Here's some reasons why you should stop watching AEW:1. You don't like it2. You don't enjoy it3. You could be doing other more productive things, than hate watching a show not aimed at you4. You will never like it because your tastes are different from AEW's target audience5. Your family and friends need you back and your AEW obsession is destroying your life
>>16176272>>16176279>I'm a dumb-as-fuck pseud-int that can't speak EnglishWe know lilbro.>>16177456Murphetty is just Poundland Ospreay>>16181499this except their family doesn't need or want them back
>>16152608He still doesn't like apparently
>>16181669>16 hours laterNuclear seethe detected
>>16181499I don't watch AEW because it sucks
>>161814996. You're a heterosexual male.
