What would it take for the American indie wrestling scene to become this good again?
>AEW is still a thing>WWEIDNot happening
>>16273444Pamper a bunch of unsigned names with contracts they'll want to desperately please the owners of and play it safe as to not fuck up their chances instead of doing their own thing to develop at whatever cost necessary. Remove the hunger and the desire. Make sure they all work the same style. That'll surely do it
Nothing. American wrestling has been on a steep decline since the 80s. The guys who know what to do are dead and everyone alive don't want to learn.Honestly, it would take another Tony Khan who values training and experience over getting to hang out with the guys from his favorite youtube channel.
The talent isn't there and if it was they would just get signed to AEW and wrestle on Collision every other month.
>>16273458you are angry at nothing
>>16273528What part of that says angry to you? That's just the way it's going to go. Feel how you will about it but it's certainly not going to make the indies more like they were in the early 2000s. If anything quite the opposite
OP if you want great matches and reality based storylines watch AEW.
>>16273583Might be unpopular to say but this. If you're looking for that style that was prominent in that early 2000s indie/ROH era then AEW is the closest you'll get. Different names and faces but that's where it's at
Won’t happen anymore because wwe and aew immediately sign any new indie wrestler that starts to get buzz instead of letting them travel around the world to get experience like every other past indie wrestler back then
>>16273567You don’t know or follow any of those people to know about the “style” they wrestle or will. You are just repeating talking points with zero thought
>>16273608Hardly. If people are signing those contracts then their intent is to go to WWE. I think that much speaks for itself. If that's their goal then logically they're going to do everything in their power to make themselves as appealing to WWE as they can to get that actual contract beyond that point. If you don't think that's true then you're either incredibly naive or even more foolish
>>16273587Honestly it just shows how much wrestling has degraded in the last 20 years. AEW guys botch way more, their individual moves look like shit and their personalities are either more bland or gay and cartoony. AEW also has to make every storyline about how the guys are gay and they hurt each others' feelings. And when they go hardcore, which is far too often AEW uses fake weapons.They have no prime Joe, they have no prime Danielson, they don't even have a Jimmy Rave. The only parts of early ROH that live on in AEW are Special K and the Rainbow Express.
>>16273444Go back in time and stop AEW from happening
>>16273503This, sadly. Too bad Elon is from South Africa instead of Texas. He might have saved pro wrestling.
>>16273635This is spot on. But you'll probably get called an E-drone for daring to criticize AEW
>>16273649Elon would have put himself in the ring. Dude couldn't stand being a reply guy and tried to buy his way into being a poster. Life long beta desperate to be one of the big dogs.
>>16273444Sick tats lmao
>>16273635>AEW guys botch way moreThey really don't. I watch enough of both. It's just highlighted far more than the ones in WWE are because of which promotion it is and which one's currently in favor. I didn't see a single webm, post, or comment about Gable dropping Dragon Lee flat on his head at the start of their match the other week. If that happened in AEW it'd be all over this board alone in seconds
>>16273859I was talking about the OG ROH guys you fucking console warring mark.
>>16273867>"AEW guys botch way more">HOW D-DARE YOU MAKE THIS ABOUT C-C-CONSOLE W-WARRING?!?!?!!!!
>>16273874ROH and AEW are currently under the same ownership. And I'm talking about the degradation of wrestling. AEW guys are sloppy botchy bitches compared to indie guys trying to similar things 20 years ago.
>>16273859lmao holy fuck what poor reading comprehension on this lad. this is who you're arguing with on /pw/ lmao
>>16273882I don't think it's that bad. The guys they signed from NJPW and WWE (minus Adam Cole) seem to be good, and that's most of the roster now. Most of the botching I see (at least in webms) seems to come from the Rampage luchadores
>>16273444CM Punk was never good
>>16273874Learn to read english, Pratik. He was saying compared to prime ROH guys(Styles, Joe, Punk, Danielson) AEW guys botch more often than they did. And he's right.
>>16273897You as someone ignorant to even the most recent wrestling history cause you only watched WWE until 2019 might not see it. But those of us who are educated can see the sharp decline.
AEW to die.
>>16273982How do you kill that which is dead?
>>16273859Are your eyes getting crippled too, Trevor?
>>16273444Once aew loses the support of the super marks and alternatives pop up again, but there would need to be an increase in people getting into the business. Otherwise an unprecedented euro boom creating a euro indy scene. Japan is sort of like this at least
>>16274680>Japan is sort of like this at leastJapan has a much better diversity of styles on their indie scene but talent development on all levels of the industry has been extremely shaky. It's still a much more likely place than America for a freelancer show that draws 500 people to be one of the best shows all year, though.
>>16273668youre an npc in gta 6 and elon is the guy playing it
