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Why did Mariah Man's title run fail so miserably?
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>>16277872
What's wrong with it?
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>>16277878
No one cares about it
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>>16277882
More to do with the company than the run itself
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>>16277890
People cared when Toni was champ
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>>16277872
Is Collision's main eventer!?
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>People cared when Toni was champ
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No plan post title win. Happens more often than not.
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>>16277872
where are the strong army of challengers surrounding the champion? oh, there aren’t any. literally just green-as-goose shit anna jay. and mina, who will be dragged into a heartbreaking soap opera deal and not much more i’d guess. she doesn’t have challengers worth shit, so there is no drama.
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>>16278038
kek true
they like the gimmick because it’s different presentation but there just isn’t much there
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>>16278064
They're building Shida with wins and calling her the ace on Rampage again, so she may challenge soon. Then fuck her off after she jobs.
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>>16277901
Did they?
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>>16277872
WTF is that blood!? NEW STONE COLD!
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She wrestles nobodies on Collision and they never bothered to develop anything about her outside of Toni so now everyone is waiting for the Toni rematch.

And she is also so obviously below the TBS champ. Toni could at least put up a fight against Mercedes shit but Mariah can't.
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>>16277872
I've honestly lost track of what happened but didn't Toni Storm just vanish? Then Mariah just keep talking about Mina for weeks whilst facing jobbers and now Anna Jay is top contender for no reason. Like it's been typical Tony Khan random shit booking.
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dawg i don't even know who their current world champ is
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>>16278681
Mox again. Takeashita has the secondary belt. Monke has the other women's belt. Private Party are tag champs. Jericho is roh champ.
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>>16277901
The irony of this is that Toni's entire title run was setup and built for Mariah to turn on her
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>>16278064
This is the only issue with her run. They've given her the bottom bin selection of babyface opposition. So it hasn't been easy for the crowd to get behind them. No shit Nyla Rose isn't going to beat her in a one-off title match. No shit them digging up Yuka Sakazaki to feud with her is going to end with Mariah demolishing her. The feud with Willow was great and felt like the first real threat to her reign even though you knew she wasn't beating her. Willow was still over enough to carry that side of things and make for an interesting pairing. Then there's been Anna. Who they did right by letting her get that quick pin over Mariah. Even though she's clearly not winning the belt off of her it at least put a little skin in the game and made it so it wasn't just another steamrolling. I'm actually looking forward to their match tonight. Looks like Mina is finally next, who they've been hinging Mariah's entire reign on with waiting for her. That should be good and up there with the Willow feud
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>>16278788
this sums it up really well. i also don't even think it's necessarily wrong. her quality of challengers have been a steadily growing level of threat to her. it started with all essentially squashes and now she's to the point of losing non title matches. it's cohesive and tells a story in itself
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>>16278675
>and now Anna Jay is top contender for no reason
Anna was the first person to pin Mariah since somewhere around July
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>>16277872
because the division has never been good and forced down the throats of the consumer. willow is the only woman in the history of the company to get over. it is sad.

telling me over and over that the women are good or the best doesn't get them over, tony.
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>>16277901
just because she was on TV with her one note gimmick doesn't mean she was over
nobody cares, just like nobody cares about Sasha, just like nobody cares about Mariah. I'd mostly blame Tony for his shit booking though really they'd be better off just not having a women's division at all.
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Phony Con doesn't know how to book a top level feud more than once a year. If you're lucky you get one and then spend the rest of the year with jabronis and jobbers.
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>>16277872
>fail
How so? She's having one of the better title reigns in wrestling right now. It's a hell of a lot better than Mox's or even Cody's. Mercedes too. I actually can't think of one in AEW or WWE that I'd say has been better
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>>16278871
>doesn't mean she was over
No but the arenas popping for her every single week sure as hell does
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>you guys dont like womens wrestling?
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>>16278882
Do you think she cried that night
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>>16278882
kek was she wrong? this board sure as hell can't say otherwise. nor can alvarez and the rest of his guys that were there as "media"
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>>16278881
imagine believing that happened
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>>16277872
Because she's barely been on TV, ignoring the shows that have almost no viewers.
This is the normal AEW thing. You give someone who isn't from WWE a title and then send them to rampage to defend the title against jobbers in competitive matches.
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>>16278894
Yes I'm sure she wept into her title and money because marks only asked her one question
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>>16278905
Imagine thinking the bullshit you're arguing isn't verifiably false and can't easily be refuted by countless videos that exist
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>>16278882
>a month later and people are still unironically being worked by a wrestler in character
never change, /pw/
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>>16278929
What story were they building here
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Her backstage promos have been amazing but only airing on Collision which has 50% of Dynamite's viewers.
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>>16277872
Is that Beavo's gf who gets piped by Jason Luv?
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>>16277872
As soon as she called herself a whore i stopped cared. Like why even say
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>>16277882
>Nobody Cares
Britt's words proven true again and again.
The sickos hate her because she is honest.
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>>16278882
I think some people pretend to be as a form of virtue signaling
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>>16278877
Liv?
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>>16277872
>why didn't people care about this AEW storyline?
AEW brand has stank on it. even LOLTNA back in 09/10 had more credibility than 2024 AEW
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>>16279118
Nta but she did do a promo that started with "I hate women's wrestling" that ties into how she answered the question she did get at the media thing. So it wasn't nothing
https://x.com/AEW/status/1855427615940657598
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>>16279381
>Nta
go back
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>>16279267
I thought about hers. It's probably the best argument you could make. It's had great placement in the shows and has been made to feel important at least. But the reign itself has been lackluster. That cage match with Becky was one of the worst cage ones I've ever seen, her matches with Rhea have had zero chemistry, and that match with Nia was irrelevant and not very good either. Dominik has felt like more of a prize in her story than the actual title. Which there are for sure parallels there with the Toni and Mariah stuff. But Mariah used Toni to get to the title whereas Liv more so used the title to get to Dom in a way at least since he wasn't actually on her side until Summerslam where she was already champion
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>>16279386
>Not the anon
Go back where? To what other anonymous image board? Sounds like you need to go back yourself
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>>16279219
>Britt openly burying Deeb, herself, and her angle on tv
What a dipshit kek
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It’s high stakes. Rest of your life. Who you got?

>>16279219
i hope she sees this bro
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Mercedes happened. She demanded the TBS title so she had a trophy to parade around, and Tony wanted her at sports matches and in front of the media with the belt in order to "build mainstream appeal."

No fucking chance that Mercedes didn't say "Sorry, the women's title is now secondary, the TBS title in the main one."
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>>16280746
This is definitely part of it. I agree with the people who pointed out her title run has actually gone better than people have made it out but Mercedes doing all she can to overshadow it can't be denied. After next week Mariah will be 1 for 3 on ppv's they've given her a match on since becoming champion. Meanwhile Mercedes has a match on all 3? Even though one's the world champ and the other is the secondary one? Couldn't be clearer she's pushing her weight around there
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>>16280775
I mean, Mercedes brought in that WWE Writer to write the women's division. It's likely that RJ City said "fuck off, we've invested too much into the Toni/Mariah storyline, we're not just giving the belt to Mercedes" and since he's working on the Death Riders storyline now he probably can't advocate as much for the Women's Championship scene.

Or, well, it could be simple as "The TBS title is named after a TV network and we were really trying to get the TV deal renewed by signing Mercedes/Okada/Will, so putting the TBS belt on Mone as she gets in front of as many cameras as possible will probably help us in negotiations if we say 'look where we're getting your brand and how many people are seeing it'."
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Mariah is the perfect vessel and packaging of a superstar, but without story and engaging episodic television, without a build, she is nothing.

AEW needs Vince Russo to get her over like Sable.
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>>16277872
i don't watch aew because of blading
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>>16277872
She's nothing without Toni
and Sasha is getting the top woman push rn
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>>16278877
Just saying shit lmao
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>>16281616
>but without story and engaging episodic television, without a build, she is nothing.
So is literally every wrestler? The fuck lmao
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>>16277872
The problem is nobody likes Mercedes so they swapped her heel. Now there's two heel champs and not enough established faces to go around.
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>>16281712

And voila, you understand why AEW fills 10% of their arenas as a showcase of interchangeable people doing flips.
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>>16277872
Weak challengers for a weak and boring champion. As soon as the Toni angle happened everyone saw how underbaked Mariah was. People thought that god awful promo the week after was just a misfire but it showcased that she can't carry the division at all. As shit as Mercedes is, they made the right choice only having her defend at the PPV
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>>16281659
>She's nothing without Toni
Initially. And I think that's why people were so fast to be down on her reign. It took a month or so, which of course something like that is going to when it's all most people knew her as beforehand, but she's established herself outside of things with Toni now
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>>16281729
I mean their attendance is dogshit sure but parroting shit that just isn't true ad nauseam doesn't prove the point you think it is. AEW has more actual storylines going on right now than WWE did going into their last ppv. It absolutely was a huge problem of theirs for a long time where all they were doing was heatless bullshit week to week, but that hasn't been the case for a decent while
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>>16281740
you suck dick for busfare
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>>16281776
Seems like you know a lot about safe spaces. Sorry that this isn't one for you and that people not agreeing with you hurts your feelings so much
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I honestly keep forgetting she even is the champion.
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>>16281831
Except I'm not telling anyone who disagrees with me to leave or "go back" like your fragile little bitch ass is
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>>16281837
this pretty much sums up this >>16278788
them booking her in two week feuds with babyfaces who aren't over is no shit going to fall flat. put her against someone the fans are actually interested in with some build and you get some decent heat going. hardly a difficult concept
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>>16281831
>>16281900
>No u
You got nothing
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>>16281984
Your seethe bubbled over and you exposed your agenda
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>>16282018
You've reached the "kill yourself" part of your seethe. You have nowhere else to go from here and you still haven't made a point kek
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>>16277872
there are no other good wrestlers on the roster besides Toni
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>>16277872
She so easily could have been a top babyface star instead of this failed abortion of a run. But noooo they just had to have Toni be the face for some reason and now here we are.
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>>16282416
Her turning on Toni was the much better story than wrestler gets jealous of their rising protege #81712. The fact that Toni still loved to the point of it costing her the belt was a really great touch too. There's still time for May to circle back around and have that babyface run too
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>>16277872
She’s not Toni
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Omg lots of deleted posts...
Who melted?
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>>16282672
some dipshit sperging out because not everyone hated the wrestler they hate kek. genuinely good job jannies
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>>16277872
They put the belt on the 3rd most over person in a 2 person feud
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>>16277872
Uhhhhh because she's an ugly ass tranny probably?
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>>16284534
Many, many have said this
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>>16285012
have they? because it seems like it's mostly just you replying to yourself



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