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AHHH YESSIR
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Based, eliminating the entire 80 year history of WWWF/WWE would have less negative impact on the business than if Will Ospreay had never been born
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>>16282226
go watch a random fed pape in the monopoly era
they were all total shit
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>>16282218
The funniest part is each one of those WWE matches alone outsell all those Will Asspray's matches put together
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>>16282232
will could be in wwe rn if we wanted lil troon bro
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>>16282232
I bet you think Avengers 4 is the best film of all time
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>>16282236
Keep him. If Will or Tony knew what they were doing, AEW wouldn't be tanking as hard as it is. Now good luck to you three against WWE's developmental show.
>>16282238
Generic cope
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>>16282261
they're making money hand over fist but keep crying faggot
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The E-drone has no concept of art, because he is functionally soulless. It's not his fault: he literally cannot comprehend that a wrestler might prioritize taking personal satisfaction in his craft over being as rich as possible and as famous as possible. The concept of indie music, indie movies, indie books is inconceivable to him. He has no spark of life inside him, so he must fill his empty shell with meaningless mass-produced content. McDonalds, Marvel, WWE -- it's all the same thing to him, and serves the same role: endlessly fueling an utterly purposeless machine. You shouldn't look down on him, in the same way that you wouldn't look down a dung beetle for not appreciating Shakespeare. His mind is a blank canvas, but he has no paint to paint with, so all that remains is a dark void, empty save for the echoing of chants and catchphrases. It is fruitless, and even unethical, to expect humanity from the E-Drone, because you cannot seek humanity in something that is fundamentally not human.
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>>16282312
nigga it aint my fault billy keeps popping 5ers
get used to it
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goat
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>>16282312
lmao what the fuck is wrong with him
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>>16282218
Ospreay is the GoW: Ragnarok of pro wrestling.
Critically acclaimed, yet incredibly artless, plebeian and self-insistent that anyone with a modicum of taste sees through as an astroturfed push.
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>>16282238
ospreay matches are decadant slop like marvel, thoughever?
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>>16282476
touch grass
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>>16282218
5 star matches on the Ospreay side
>vs Scurll 1.04.2018
>vs Shingo 4.05.2021
>vs Kenny Omega 4.01.2023

5 star matches on the WWE side
>Bret Hart vs Owen Hart 29.08.1994
>Bret Hart vs Steve Austin 23.03.1997
>Gunther vs Sheamus 3.09.2022

That's it
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>>16282501
pretty fair desu
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>>16282501
arguably correct
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>>16282476
no okada vs ospreay matches?
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>>16282528
wrong fucking reply, meant for >>16282501
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>>16282218
Now post the list of will osprey matches that drew a milly
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>>16282535
They should have, they had a really great built in story but I don't think they ever achieved true chemistry beyond "we do our sequences well with each other because we're both competent"
Okada hasn't had true chemistry with anyone since 2018 though because he has been coasting since so it's probably more on him. If CW Kingpin Ospreay (the peak of his getting a clue) went up against 2017 Okada you have a very likely fivey
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>>16282538
if will cared about that cringe shit he would have signed with wwe, tranny
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>>16282481
‘fraid so
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>>16282271
>Perceives circus as art
Nigga yous retarded or sumthin'?
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>>16282554
Get dave’s cock out of your throat faggot
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>>16282917
im referring to triple nose crying about the grind lil bro
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>>16282218
I don't value what Dave Meltzer thinks, evidently most wrestling fans don't either otherwise Ospreay would be a much bigger deal
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>>16282924
Okay? im talking about tv ratings vs the opinions of one autistic old man as metrics for success
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>>16282935
185M
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>>16282547
The G1 final was great, and is a fiver with the crowd (maybe not with Okada winning).
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>>16282929
According to Dave Meltzer's system, Adam Cole vs Johnny Gargano is the greatest match in all of WWE history. That should tell you how little you should value his opinion.
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>>16283193
hes right. wwe is just that bad.
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>>16282218
Ratings and ticket sales prove that match ratings mean absolutely nothing. If Ospreay's matches were that special, AEW would be must see TV. Outside of the niche within the niche of wrestling fans, nobody knows who he is and will never know.
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Sheeesh the list keeps getting longer! Kek what a Billy GOAT
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>>16283163
is that the amount of wrestling figs that have been up your ass throughout your life?
>>16283204
Wrestling is FAKE nigga it doesn't matter how many flips and kicks Indie vanilla midgets will do in a 60 minute long workrate clinic.
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>>16282218
Meltzer is clearly handing them out like candy from 2018 onwards.
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>>16284986
the wrestling just got better
ajpw was getting them non stop at their peak too
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world wrestling entertainment never perform in tokyo dome or kurigan hall
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>>16285033
They literally did, 34 years ago, you dumb faggot. AEW as per usual has to take their scraps
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>>16282218
>You see, there’s this autistic hoarder kike and he puts out this podcast that only the most lonely of fat crippled virgins listen to, and he’s been putting out match ratings for 40 some years, he’s the expert I listen to and decides for me what wrestling I think is actually good
lol, lmao even
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>>16285467
wwe is owned by the son of an israeli terrorist
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>>16285476
gonna cry?
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>>16282218
All those stars and still cant fuckin draw a dime
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>>16285511
cope
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>>16282218
Were all the 5* bangers worth the neck surgery he's about to have?
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I really wonder what the fuck was going through Dave's head when it came to putting a 5* rating on the NXT matches.
>start of the attitude era in 1997 with bret vs steve
>one of the most unique steel cage matches that actually works, still feels surprisingly fresh to this day
>shawn and scott make one of the best ladder matches with only a single ladder
>Kane's debut and the first hell in a cell match
>Punk vs Cena was a career-defining moment and one of the best angles in wrestling
And what's the next 5* match?
>Johnny "kick-out" Gargano vs Andrade in a feud that really didn't have much of a build nor did it have much of an effect on the careers of the people involved
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>>16282218
It's so weird how Kenny's matches felt like this huge deal and a lot of that was carried by the sentiment that he had le six star match for a good chunk of fans yet here's Ospreay having 5.xx all the time and nobody seems to give a shit about or respect him.
It's too obvious Meltzer's forcing an agenda and his tastes are simply a solved formula, and not a particularly good formula at that.
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>>16282501
>Benoit vs HHH vs HBK
>Angle vs Benoit
>Zayn vs Owens in NXT or something.
and that's it.
As for Ospreay, I would never understand how Dave can overrate that shitter. Omega, I can get it. Okada, too. But Osprey? It's the same with Johnny Gargano lmao or Adam Cole. Who in his right mind can watch them and think they are having a perfect match. What in the fuck.
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>>16287073
For the greater IWC, Takeovers were a total vibe at the time. We didn't get to see that style in the West with high production values and in WWE proper. If you go back and watch, it's not the same at all.
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>>16287080
Because Kenny can actually wrestle and knows how to tell a story in the ring and outside of it. Also New Japan was on fire around 2017 after Okada dethroned Tanahashi and Naito and Kenny step up.
Omega was given a very big push after AJ and Nakamura left and he delivered big. I thought he wasn't ready, it was his first G1 I think as well. The NJPW presentation, booking and style helped him a lot but Osprey himself hasn't been able to have matches on his level... so simply put, Omega is real deal and Osprey is an overrated flip boy. Even a guy like Orton realizes that and he is respected more by other WWE guys or legends
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>>16287157
>>Zayn vs Owens in NXT or something.
Zayn's best NXT match was pic related desu
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>>16287073
>>16287189
Raw and Smackdown were so ass at the time, that Takeover genuinely felt like a gift from God when in actuality, it wasn't much better than your average indie ran show, just with higher production values.

Takeover is the reason Triple H earned so much goodwill in the IWC by just booking a mostly competent product while Vince was shitting up the joint.

So yea, I can imagine Johnny vs. Andrade is a ***** match when Vince was still felliating Brock and Roman in 2018.
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>>16283193
I actually stopped watching NXT because of this match
>>16282218
Convenient that when Osmegma started getting injured and winding down, Dave found another guy to hand out Le checking 8* bangers to. Almost like he only hands out those kind of ratings to keep people interested in his failing magazine.



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