booking genius?
>>16290083give me one reason why this card is bad
The funniest part of this image is that every time it's posted, people in the replies will have the exact same arguments and talking points like NPCs
its bullshit wheres the mean street posse vs three count
>>16290138That's because it's the same exact image that gets posted with zero context every time. What do you honestly expect? The bait is already at the point of diminishing returns.
>>16290105>Foley on WCW for some reason>not Undertaker-Sting>no involvement from Nash and Hall>Warriors winning a match in the 2000s
>>16290160What's the context for having Foley on WCW's side Vs. Austin and Taker vs Funk in 2001 ?
>>16290217He's a hackThat's the context>Austin-Hogan>Undertaker-Sting>Rock-Scott SteinerThose should have all been no brainers
>>16290238Sure if you're capable of mind control and can get Austin and Hogan to agree on a finish
>>16290253they both chokeslam eachother at the same time and madison square garden gets wiped off the face of the earth brother -HH
>>16290238>Undertaker-StingAnyone who says this is a big dumb retard.If you're gonna blow all your fantasy matches at one PPV, the one everyone actually watching at the time wanted was Austin/Goldberg.The Taker/Sting narrative didn't get thrown around until years later.
>>16290253Match ends in a double count out after they shake hands in the middle of the ring and walk out together after 20 minutes
>>16290263>Austin-Shitberg>a short and crappy match where Shitberg injures AustinYeah great idea
>>16290217He books the whole invasion for, like, three hours, I don't remember it all.
>>16290273I'm sorry you decided to work hurt through multiple concussions, Bret.
>>16290105>Foley main eventing in 2001>Undertaker being wasted on Terry Funk in 2001>Dusty Rhodes, Jim Cornette & Jimmy Hart in 2001>Warriord over Dudleys in 2001>Nova/Jerry Lynn on level with Edge/ChristianMaybe if it was 1997 or someting
>>16290299GMS
>>16290105I love answering this>Foley (a WWF guy by the way) instead of any top WCW guy like Hogan, Goldberg, DDP, Sting, etc>He doesn't know that Funk was a jabroni in WCW's hardcore division by then and wasn't a top guy since the 80s. Also no Sting?>OK match, but I would have picked DDP so you could have People's Champ vs People's Champ>Hogan, the guy who made WCW a threat to WWF, in a match vs a guy who hasn't been big since the 80s (and thrown in two managers for no reason)>this one is fine>Road Warriors weren't big since the 80s (I'm sensing a pattern here) and just a couple years before the invasion were getting LITERALLY ZERO reaction from the crowd>this is fine>this is fine>nova and lynn? two curtain jerkers? why not Rey and Kidman?>this is just ok, but at this point Scott was a major main eventer and I'd rather see him vs Kane and drop the other two>meh
>>16290083I've replied to this thread so many times. It's not a horrible preliminary card, but it's got a lot of duds and insane choices. Steiner might have been though but Big Show and Kane are fucking giants compared to them. The Rock v Funk is already a better match with the name and Sting v Undertaker is more fitting Vince v Flair sounds like a terrible idea that would end in tears. Why the fuck does Jericho need to win anything? etc.
>>16290105Shane O Mac isn't on the card
>>16290083get HBK off the somas and put DX v NWO as the co main(kliq v kliq tag match)
>>16290445>Vince v Flair sounds like a terrible idea that would end in tearsDumbest take of the whole post. Every Vince McMahon WM match is great and Flair is a GOAT. Just put the two in a gimmick match and you would've gotten something the level of Hogan/Vince at 19.
>>16290263Austin/Goldberg is not wrong as far as the pulse of the time, but I think that Austin/Hall was a genuinely inspired matchup on paper.
>>16290217https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5x60d7doesnt really have an explanation other than foley was ready to retire
>>16290385I also enjoy this conversation though it's difficult if somebody hates or loves Cornette or doesn't get the context.I'll make two points in his favour, firstly that one of his stated goals was to get the long term WCW fans watching WWF shows that they've seen as the enemy for decades. Using the Dustys and Funks of the world and treating them as big deals. Although '85 seems very date, 15 years isn't that long. It's 2024 and we have guys whose peak was 2004 still in main event positions. This would be like using the big stars from 2010 now which happens. So it looks worse than it is.The second point is that this is supposed to be a culmination of a year long angle so these feuds would have been built. The purpose of this was to move the older guys out gracefully and the young guys that you mentioned would be the guys headlining the next Mania.
>>16290083It seems like the card has two priorities which are at odds with reality. First, it seems like Cornette is thinking more about pre-Ted Turner WCW, the Jim Crockett era even though anyone would be thinking of Nitro/MNW era. Second, I think that he was thinking of everyone in their primes rather than the reality of everyone's careers post-MNW.
>>16290105Dusty and Funk are terrible choices, to the WWE audience it's the polka dot guy and Chainsaw Charlie.
>>16290653The idea that WWE audience didn't know top WCW guys or any other wrestling people has been consistently disproven as Vince headcanon for about 40 years
>>16290663Dusty and Terry were more NWA 80s top guys than WCW top guys though, 15-20 years was more like 50 back then.
Jim Cornette has zero clue what the people want to see. That’s always been the big problem with him as a creative, and it’s a pretty fucking big one.
>>16290674I think most people would agree that Cornette is a great detail guy on wrestling logic but he's not exactly culturally on the ball
>>16290681Putting it succinctly, he does not have his finger on the pulse
>>16290674Oh yeah mean the people weren’t clamoring to see Bob Holly and Bart Gunn as the new Midnight Express in 1998 during the peak of the Attitude Era? Hard to believe
>>16290695Cornette hated that, actively fought against it, and considered it an insult to the point that it led to his firing.
>>16290704Sure he did
>>16290711It's acknowledge by everyone who was there at the time, including Russo, that it was Russos idea who did it to try and mock Cornette.The idea that Cornette would want a New Midnight Express is sort of retarded.
>>16290083dimes
