The storyline or the company? Either way it's headed by a money mark who played EWR and thought he knew how to run a wrestling company.

Nothing about it makes sense. What’s their motivation? Also, Claudio sucks

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Moxley community theater is dimeless cringe. Pretending to murder people every week is stupid.

>>16441778
yeah, they needed something to ground the story, like a chili pepper necklace to fight over

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I'm just happy my boi claudio is getting a push

the gimmick is they say the company sucks and they intentionally hide the title mox holds, how is anyone supposed to get over from this

>feuding with twinks
>strangling them with plastic bags
>stabbing them with screwdrivers
>poisoning them with bleach and windex
>hitting them with cars
>the twinks no sell it and just keep coming
Gee. Imagine if the nWo was getting btfo by the cruiserweights every week.

>>16441793
It makes sense the title-in-the-briefcase thing is such a problem for dronies, who struggle with basic object permanence in the same way infants do

>create a stable lead by the shields jannetty, Dean Ambrose
>fill it with jobbers and manlets
>make it the focus of your entire promotion
>their most dangerous opposition is pockets
is Tony Khan shoot retarded?

>>16441753
Wrestling is boring and gay, AEW is even more boring and gay. Everyone knows it's an act and there are no interesting characters.

>>16441753
Shit babyfaces
>Darby is canonically a retard that gave up a guaranteed title shot for no reason and has been made to look like a bitch several times already during the feud and likely won't get a real shot for several months which means nothing when the company can't book for shit right now
>Orange Cassidy is a comedy midcarder who doesn't care that is now moody only cares a little. Guess what, I don't care.
>Hangman's character flips from heel to face every other week and is relying purely on reputation pops in this angle
>Tweener-babyface rehab project Jay White got choked out in Marina's titties (gee way to reinforce that he totally isn't a bitch)
Quit stalling and push Darby or bring back Kenny already. Fuck all this other nonsense.

>>16441780
Is he trying to look like Steve Austin?
That podcast really destroy his mind so bad?

>>16441753
>DEAN
>a midget
>Cesaro
>yuta

truly a mystery

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>>16441753
They're supposed to be psychopathic disrupters of AEW's status quo and change the company by force, but the shit they're doing is no different from what we've already seen from this company in the last 5 years. The constant brawling. The obsession with trying to make any no DQ match into a shitty indy deathmatch. Just being an angle about taking over the company.
The core of the issue is there is no surface level status quo for this angle to actually feel impactful despite how trybard it is and how awful Moxley is. Mercedes Mone is doing angles where she tries to get someone run over by a car and get driven through a fake wall just because she wants to in the middle of a show where every match has to have some bullshit as soon as the bell rings. What sort of impact is Jon Moxley supposed to have? Now this geek is trying to make his foe, in his effort of allegedly making all the hanger-ons sink or swim, drink fucking bleach?

>>16441951
yeah Dean sux fr

>>16441753
It’s literally what a middle schooler would come up with if you told him to write a wrestling storyline

>>16441782
unironically, this is something that would make it better. it is a visual medium.

>no clear pay off to look forward to
>90% jobbers
>whole thing came out of nowhere with no build
>Mox sucks
>second silly ass takeover angle in so many months

>>16441782
>aewtist doesn't understand universal storytelling techniques
many such cases

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>>16441782
They have the main championship held hostage but don't show signs of life.
Minus Wheeler. they are all WWE veterans, they should know this.

they should just have bobbo gorilla stomp these crackers next week, let him be champion and forget this retarded bullshit ever happened

>>16441753
because you're a miserable antismark who reflexively hates everything aew does

>>16442342
anon everyone hates it though. trannymite's ratings are in a precipitous freefall, Grand Ham's stadium got cancelled and even meltzer is saying that their Texas stadium show is already a bust

>>16442342
>antismark
just stop posting

still yet to see a good argument on why it isn’t shit yet.

it’s widely agreed it fucking sucks.

>>16441794
>>feuding with twinks
>>strangling them with plastic bags
>>stabbing them with screwdrivers
>>poisoning them with bleach and windex
>>hitting them with cars
>>the twinks no sell it and just keep coming
I don't watch aew - is this true?

>>16442376
the woman in the group choked out jay white by hugging him KEK

>>16442384
bet that Miz feud looks pretty good these days

>>16442384
wtf why does Tony hate Jay white so much bros

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>>16442394
>beats the guy that convincingly won the PPV main event
>does it again
>jobs to some woman in the most embarrassing way possible
great job, tony

>>16442422
Dean has to be banging that broad on the side

>>16441782
This but unironically. Punk and Drew got that shitty bracelet more over than the AEW world title.

>>16441753
>I'm le mad AEW sucks now! gimmick
>nothing about the show changes
>it sucks even worse now
A gimmick like this is supposed to be the great reset but Tony Faggot Retard Khan is too much of a bitch to admit defeat and just provide the money

>>16441782
>Tony is mad that WWE can actually get things over

>>16441797
The only thing struggling is AEW for relevancy. Ratings and ticket sales agree I’m afraid.

>>16441782
>chili pepper necklace
the chili pepper necklace is just a symbolic stand in for a universal and timeless narrative, instantly recognizable so everyone can easily understand it and get invested, a clear visual indicator of a classic tale of human struggle
tony's schizo booking, his arrogance in thinking that he's above the classical forms and his willingness to let anyone do whatever they feel like doing makes up for convoluted, inconsistent and ultimately meaningless vague series of barely connected events that don't get anyone invested, don't elevate anyone and are not meant to be anything but fodder to a reel of flips.

>>16441753
good morning sir

>>16442795
yeah Dean sux fr

>>16441753
Trying to present DEAN AMBROSE as some Brock Lesnar type threat while having Bobby Lashley on the same roster is probably one of them

>>16441782
This got them oinking

>>16441753
Because it's a dumb storyline

>>16442429
>on the side
His wife is right there. If anything, she's a cuckquean who likes to get smashed in the hotel room while watching him and Marina. And Roddy is probably playing video games.

>>16441778
>Marina sucks
Fixed

>>16441753
Bret Hart laid it out a year ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfLgDjeRxsc

>>16442261
A storyline that actually draws dimes is completely unfathomable to an AEWtist. They only understand callbacks, worked shoots, insider terms and flips.

>>16441753
It's AEW version of Retribution.

>>16442795
>the chili pepper necklace is just a symbolic stand in for a universal and timeless narrative, instantly recognizable so everyone can easily understand it
you are an absolute retard lol

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>>16441753
you tell me

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Once again they have no character outside of "we are so badass and we beat up everyone". Its Moxleys entire shtick since forever and hes not even good at it

WWE has plenty of community theater level acting but at least they have characters. Like when JD was doing the "we are taking this show over" shit, you had Dominik/Rhea/Finn/Priest each with very distinct characters. The in group interactions is what made it work

>>16443269
>A storyline is completely unfathomable to an AEWtist.
ftfy

>>16441753
SAAR
GOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING SAAR YOUR WIMDOWS IS RUN SLOW

>>16442422
A visual plea

>>16443274
Kingston is such a shitter
I hate that fat faggot so much

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>>16441753
you tell me

would this angle be less doa if the hurt syndicate weren't in aew right now?

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isnt this the second invasion angle theyve done this year

>>16441753
Simple, the marks are in the ring.

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>>16443470
its even worse than that in 2024
the smarks are in the ring

>>16441753
I don't watch gAyEW but my understanding was it's just Blackpool Combat Club again minus Bryan Danielson.

>>16441797
>dronies, who struggle with basic object permanence in the same way infants do
That's fair. AEW could once get one million viewers and now that we can't see it anymore, it's like it never happened.

>>16441753
Because it's shit.

>>16441909
This. All of those guys have been ruined by TK's retarded booking. The ending of WrestleDream encapsulated the problem. I was holding out hope that Shane McMahon would be introduced as their leader or something but I guess that isn't happening. He probably saw how the last 2 months have played out and bailed on them.
>>16442777
The worst thing about this angle is that it gives air time to the shitters who are the very problem in the company. Moxley would be great if he had a booker who'd reign him in. The dude seems to think random acts of violence is enough to get over.

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>>16443507

The sad thing is there aren’t any good heels in aew left either.

>>16441753
because they are playing white supremacists without beat the piss out of all the minorities in the company. they should start with that brown dog-fucker Tony Khan. They should haul him to the ring and curb stomp him on live TV. Then they should round up all the minorities in the company and begin handing out beatings one by one, one live TV.

Why does AEW have to be saved? Why is the goal of AEW to make AEW the babyface and by proxy, Tony Khan the ultimate babyface?

>>16443275
I see Dean didn't skip forward roll day in training.

>>16443274
This can't be real. The fat drunks at my local are in better shape and go harder than these jobbers.
Tell me it's fake.

>>16443490
>Daniel Garcia looking like a late 90s rentboy
grim

People will blame MOX but its Tony or whoever is booking the angles thats to blame. Whether you like him or not MOX is a 3 time champ and one of the most over guys they have, his segments and title runs in the past have usually done well ratings wise. The whole idea of "were vets and were tired of these young guys fucking around doing nothing, so were gonna beat their ass so they step up and improve" is fine and can work, even tho it looks like theyve dropped that cause now they're just attacking other vets. Its just booked like shit and Yuta is in the group when he should be replaced with someone that people actually like, so whoever it is can eventually break off from the group and hopefully become a big babyface and get a push.

>>16441753
Tony is a poor promoter. He had a lot of success in his first 2-3 years because he was basically leading on from the stories the Elite were building in 2016-2019

>>16441909
>>Darby is canonically a retard that gave up a guaranteed title shot for no reason and has been made to look like a bitch several times already during the feud and likely won't get a real shot for several months which means nothing when the company can't book for shit right now
I was shoot pissed about this. All it took was a quick backstage promo showing Nigel speaking to the Bucks, and the Bucks offering a warning that Danielson not turning up to Grand Slam would be a fireable offense. It plays in to their character.

Tony okaying the Mox/Darby match based on Danielson being injured then 20 mins later okaying the Nigel/Danielson match was what made Darby look legit fucking stupid.

>>16442422
This had to be a botch right? No way this was what was planned right?

>>16442777
These meta "this company sucks" storylines have never worked ever. All it reinforces is yes, the company does suck.

>>16441753
Because the Dick Riders is a retarded stable. Why is PAC in the group at all if they're supposed to be this pseudo-MMA, shoot fighting group? Just because Tony lost the other 2/3 of Death Triangle and had nothing else for PAC to do?

>>16444417
Yes actually, there were reports that Death triangle were suppose to win the trios titles at Wembly, but that fell through so they put PAC with the BCC so he could have his moment at Wembly

It's Marina. No one wants to see men get beat up week in and week out because they can't retaliate.
The Dudley Boys would have put that bitch through a table.

>>16444470
This is also a problem with Rhea beating up dudes
Both of them need to get put through a table already, sick of women beating up on men with no comeuppance

>>16441753
despite Moxley ripping off a different movie every week, we still don't know what their motivations are or what exactly they want to do. I don't think moxley even knows, it's just a slightly more opaque "I get the belt and then I beat everyone"

>>16441923
DEAN

Ratings go down ---> Introduce a new monster heel faction who shoot on AEW and admit it's shit ---> Ratings go down ---> Introduce a new monster heel faction who shoot on AEW and admit it's shit ---> Ratings go down ---> Introduce a new monster heel faction who shoot on AEW and admit it's shit ---> Ratings go down ---> Introduce a new monster heel faction who shoot on AEW and admit it's shit --->

the idea of a stable running around and trying to murder people is silly when even in kayfabe Tony is just sitting in the back doing nothing about it.

>>16444545
Especially when we know he’s sitting 20 feet from the ring in gorilla watching it all go down. He wants you to know he’s right there watching and this was all his idea.

>>16443469
Third lol

>>16444470
Yeah she should be hassling the women's division

>>16444402
NWO and Bullet Club made bank

>>16444597
Both made the shows unwatchable

>>16441753
Tony Khan is a bad booker, DEAN is a retard and all his ideas are bad, Cesaro is boring, they have a woman beating up men, PAC is a midge, and Wheeler Yuta is a small 150lb faggot.

>>16441753
Just look at it

>>16444597
NWO never ran a meta "this company sucks" program when they were making money. When they started feuding with Russo on screen and talking about the script and how dogshit the creative is, is when WCW started freefalling.

>>16443274
Retards online will bitch about """restholds""" and then cum in their shorts over spots like this.

>>16443274
Misawa and Giant Baba are looking down and smiling.

>>16444520
>"I get the belt and then I beat everyone"
Don't you remember Moxley seething his way around the podcast circuit after he left WWE? Literally all of his creative ideas revolve around him getting the belt and then beating everyone.

>>16441753
I don't know why so many people hate it.

I have been enjoying it. I'm glad we are getting a story. And I'm glad it's a story that has Darby being taken seriously. Had forced Orange Cassidy to be a little more serious, and now it's pulling in Switchblade and Hangman who have deserved to be in the main event scene for a while now. I'm glad there is a story being told that isn't just the same story AEW always does which is "I'm the better wrestler, no I'm the better wrestler"

AEW has been getting it's lowest views ever while it's finally doing some stories. I'm afraid it's going to make Tony give up and go back to not doing stories. He's already trying to do that with the C2 dog shit

>>16441778
Femanon?
I've only heard women say Claudio sucks.

>>16441753
>why is it falling at miserably?
that's worded completely fucked up and yet these bot replies are responding like it's plain English

>>16444602
Yeah because it went on too long. It made bank for a solid 9 month before diminishing returns. Should have ended with Sting for at least a year.
>>16444644
Their entire gimmick was shitting on WCW.

Death Riders are the least of AEWs problems right now.

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>>16445513
women or "women"?

>>16445516
only third world shitskins hyperfixate on syntax to try and appear white

>>16441753
The stars AEW have that I care to see are stuck in creative hell.


I cared more about WCW 2000 than I do about current AEW, and I happily avoided WCW 2000 like the plague.

There's literally nothing beyond me booking AEW myself that would get me watching again. Good luck to them but I can't see myself giving them my money or viewership ever again. Sammy, Starks, jump ship as soon as possible or make Tony break the fucking bank to keep you.

Dean is just cringe. Always has been. I'm glad he's failing.

>>16442376
Yes.
Moxley and his group have been mutilating and attempting to murder Darby, Orange, Switchblade, and Bryan.

He tangled Bryan with a plastic bag. He poured draino in Orange Cassidy's eyes and mouth, he stabbed Darby with a screw driver. It's been over the top attempted murder. It's been fun to watch but it requires some major major major suspension of disbelief for Mox to not be in prison for attempting to kill skinny twinks on tv.

>>16445524
Specifically Darcy the Mail Girl from The Last Drive In was who I was thinking of. Hot goth horror bimbo. Hot if you like bimbos. She hates on Claudio.

>>16444562
Who’s the third besides EVPs and death riders

>>16442422
Come to think of it, why is this bitch even on the group? she just showed up one day following Moxley and beating people up.
Her presence adds NOTHING to the angle, it actualyl hinders it since you know nobody will be allowed to fight back at her.

>>16445758
take your simping elsewhere

>>16445525
I don't think you understand how little it makes sense.
Is he asking "why is it falling flat?", because how do you miss two letters?
is he saying "what is it failing at?", is he in support of the angle?
it's completely wrong on multiple levels.

>>16445525
Good morning sir!

>>16441753
Tony “KWABOTY” Khan.

>>16445990
KWAKWABOTY

>>16445506
It's because of how cartoony Dean and his buddies are.

>>16445462
Sounds like something Hardcore Holly would propose

>>16441753
because the storyline is mox calling aew shit, and a lot of the viewers agree with him and are cheering him on for it

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>>16443232
lesnar you say...

in chicos defense he has now apologized for this comment and regularly shits on aew

>>16443274
This was my first AEW PPV. AMA.

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>Elite "take over the company" because it sucks
>Tony tries to stop and gets kayfabe murdered
>story dropped a few months later
>Mox and friends "take over the company" because it sucks
>Tony doesn't care

>>16445525
It actually makes perfect sense when you realize it was just a typo and can intuit what OP meant.

>>16446381
>"it was just a typo"
>forgets the first two letters
???

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>>16441782
LOL

>>16443268
>people don't know what wrestling is or what wrestling was
>Or what wrestling ever will be
Jokes aside I don't mind a fork spot, with Dean everything is a fucking fork spot

>>16441753
first of all, AEW doesn't have a booker. To call Tony a booker is to insult every booker in the history of the business.
DEAN is charismatic but his ideas tend to be bad, he needs a booker to keep him in check and they don't have one. It's clear they don't have a plan in mind right now.
Cesaro is a fine wrestler but a charisma vacuum.
The girl is ??? who the fuck is that chick? Why did she join?
Neville is a midget and makes no sense in the group.
Yuta is the worst "rising star" I have seen, he makes Umino Shota look like prime Tanahashi. You book a heel faction to have one or two breakaway stars that actually have potential and charisma so when they turn on the leader they get a massive pop and push. See: Batista, Randy, Zayn. Yuta is a fucking geek.
Running a shoot angle about how AEW sucks and they are taking over, when they have tried the same angle like twice or thrice this year and the others were dropped like nothing just won't generate any heat.
The only thing that would make some sense would be to have Tony appear on TV as a fucking heel because he is insufferable and play a fool that is manipulated by the Bucks, Hangman too. He should play a geek, which he is, and over the top how the Bucks get in their ear to allow them to have unfair fights. Those 4 are the actual heels in the company. Jericho can join too.

>>16441782
>AEWtist is still fuming that a necklace and a friendship bracelet hold more weight than the AEW world title

>>16446826
it really got to them

>>16441753
>aew
because it's all booked by TK and TK sucks as a booker
>this "storyline"
See above

They tried to make it so the Mox faction’s complaints about the company mirrored those of the online “bad faith critics” so that when a face finally triumphed it was like the company also triumphed over the online haters. However, once Moxley started explaining why he thinks the company sucks now, almost everybody actually agreed with what he said. Also it’s the second company takeover angle they’ve run in the last 6 months.

>>16446999
top kek

>>16446389
What's so hard to understand about that?

>>16444545
>Tony canonically fired Punk because he feared for his life when he bumped a monitor
>Mox is out making snuff videos without consequence
Trying to make Wembley an angle remains an all time retard moment.

>>16441909
Pretty accurate for me. These kind of RA style attacks only work if you feel uncomfortable watching the face get tortured and the face has to actually be good for you to care
The group would heat up instantly if they did this to Kenny

>>16447495
>The new Elite take Kenny out by attacking him while he has diverticulitis
>Now that means nothing since Kenny returned in NJPW instead and the Elite stable is a complete non-factor
kek

>>16447525
Kenny returned in Japan?

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>>16447609
yes

>>16447654
kek Tony really is the KWABOTY

>>16443274
Bitchtitsawa vs Methwada

>>16441753
If you can't see why pic related is failing miserably I cannot explain it to you.

No one knows why they're doing this.

>>16447948
I think it's because Tony can't book

>>16441753
There just arent that many trannies, and even less of them who think neo nazis are cool.

>>16447654
Everyone has heard of just an entrance, just a catchphrase, just a theme song, but Gabe Kidd might be the first just a graphic wrestler ever

>>16448192
they're some pussy ass neo Nazis is that's what they're going for

>>16441778
>Claudio sucks
he's great. you're retarded.

>>16441753
It's a random imitation of a neo nazi movie that's happening for no reason. 3/5 members of the team are treated like midcard fodder, Mox is feuding with the lower card comedy act and Marina Shaffir, a career jobber and woman, is the muscle of the group, manhandling the title challengers.

>>16441782
Yeah, they have a little girly bag instead

>>16448477
Right that's why he has drawn a dime so many ti- oh wait

>>16448477
Cesaro sucks anon. he's certified dimeless.

>>16448545
You suck

>>16446823
I like your effort post

>>16449074
but enough about Cesaro

>>16448477
Cesaro is the prime example of vince being correct about gatekeeping a guy from a world title run.

>>16441782
That chili pepper necklace is more over than anyone in AEW kek

>Orange Cassidy
>Daniel Garcia
>Wheeler Yuta
"I am Orange Cassidy" - Tony Khan

>>16446999
this

>>16446290
I don't think any of those guys are worth this kind of money, but how the fuck are PAC and the Lucha Brothers worth 2 million dollars in AEW? The Bros have done fuck all and PAC is a mute who tags along.

>>16449713
because Tony is a dumb mark with his dad's credit card anon

>>16441753
AEW sucks.

>>16451242
aewbros, our retort?

Mox lost his only worthy rival and he lost his spirit. He will be in WWE within 2 years

>>16451247
on it. currently finding his workplace so we can get him fired.

>>16446999
/thread

Because their goals are incredibly vague

It's the 2nd invasion/hostile takeover angle in one year.

The first one fucking sucked, made literally no sense, and never got a real payoff. It also established that Tony is a real figure and character, yet he has ignored this takeover angle.
In fact, the whole roster save for midcard jobbers have ignored it.
OC is not a suitable babyface to fight these guys, he's a midcarder.
Hangman and Jay White, who have been feuding, out of nowhere decide to start fighting Moxley for the title despite Hangman not winning fuck all recently. And both of them only care about getting the belt, they don't care about the takeover portion of the angle.
Their goals are completely unknown, Moxley speaks in vague language as to what he's doing and why he's doing.
I have no idea why he's beating up miscarders, I have no idea why he's carrying the title in a briefcase, I have no idea why he wants to take over, I have no idea how he's going to take over.

The NWO explained what they want and how they could do it. They needed to get WCW execs out and convert WCW wrestlers to NWO contracts. It's so fucking stupid.

>>16452029
Also, I'm tried of seeing that bull dyke beat up men.

>>16452029
>>16452044
Lastly, all of their actions are retarded. They're not just beating people up on a daily basis, they're committing attempted homicide and no one cares, not the cops, not Tony.
It's all so stupid

>>16452029
All while online Mox is like "AEW is great and we can't afford to lose this company."

>>16452122
'my contract is way over my value and i cant afford to lose it'

>>16447525
Remember when Dave said Kenny shitting on the star system was part of a storyline/build? Whatever happened to that?

>>16452264
So much funny/embarrassing shit has happened in AEW over the last two years it's insane

>>16451264
we unironically do not want him.
Signed,
E-GODS

>>16441753
They need a strong babyface to oppose them. Darby's not a bad pick but he's around so infrequently that it doesn't really carry week to week. Probably doesn't help that the groups sentiment of trying to change AEW for the good isn't exactly a bad thing in the first place. Outside of what they did to Bryan they're not really doing anything people could be mad at

>>16452714
Signed yourself more like it. Dronies would lose their shit is Mox showed up in the Rumble. Panties the country over would be soaked at the idea of a Shield reunion. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean your opinion is fact

>>16452732
nah Roman and Seth individually are bigger than the shield now. the only one who would benefit from a shield reunion would be Dean, and who gives a fuck?

>>16446264
This. Among the MANY issues with the storyline, and undertalked about aspect of it is how much of a stupid cartoon it all is.

On at least 2 occasions they've committed attempted homicide, not fucking assault, homicide. Last week they were on camera attempting to pour bleach down OC's throat. It's fucking stupid, why the fuck is no one in kayfabe in management doing anything to stop it?

>>16451264
Who was his only worthy rival?

>>16449115
He saw Adam Cole as nothing but a manager.

>>16446999
>They tried to make it so the Mox faction’s complaints about the company mirrored those of the online “bad faith critics” so that when a face finally triumphed it was like the company also triumphed over the online haters. However, once Moxley started explaining why he thinks the company sucks now, almost everybody actually agreed with what he said
This.
Moxley represents the people who talk about how bad the booking is, hates all the stupid skits, hates the horrible gimmicks like the Iron Savages, and Jericho, and the two Turbo guys.

But he's a heel, so the logical conclusion is that the person who beats him and stops Moxley tacitly believes all the stupid shit everyone hates is actually good and is basically tell the audience that they're wrong for thinking it bad.

>>16453196
And he was right

>>16453196
Still the funniest thing about AEW to me is they hired pretty much everyone from NXT when they were head-to-head and beating them and in return AEW's tanked.

>>16453240
AEW's ratings tanked*

Cause Bald Mox isn't a threat

>>16448477
he looks good and hes great in ring, but hes just not a draw because his mic ability is mid. thats fine for aew but youre not gonna become the guy in wwe if you cant cut an amazing promo

>>16445519
>Their entire gimmick was shitting on WCW
Their gimmick was taking over WCW.
They weren't cutting meta promos about how much better the product used to be or shit like that until WCW was dying.

>>16453306
the meta shit is part of the reason wcw died. bishoff thought it was next level genius but majority of people aka kida and the casuals dont want to tune in and watch 5 promos all about 'the business' or meltzer or whatever so stop watching

>>16453274
>hes great in ring
if he was great in the ring, people would give a fuck about his matches but they don't so he isn't

>>16453336
Your confusing the Russo era with the NWO era because these were opinions you cribbed of youtube

>>16453086
And yet they're still riding the coattails of the Roman and Seth breakup from their days in the Shield. I just don't think you're right. People were holding out some non existent hope for Mox to be a part of this past year's Mania main event. People would go crazy over a Shield reunion

>>16453404
>they're still riding the coattails of the Roman and Seth
tf you talking bout son?

>>16441753
>why is it falling at
SARS
>>16442351
you really proved his point with your post, well done fatso

>>16453199
The turbo guys are dimes fuck you

>>16453395

bischoff was the guy who loved meta kayfabe breaking promos

people who try to blame russo for wcw dying are dumb sorry

>>16453527
>bischoff was the guy who loved meta Promos nit Russo
You have never watched WCW in your life

>>16441753
It's a combination of Moxley and Khan.

>>16441753
Tthe moment BCC truly died was when Claudio waltzed in to show and into the group, just a few weeks after they spend time spotlighting how they raped Yuta in practices to toughen him up or some shit and prove that he's worth even that in an elongated angle before it. Think about how long it dragged along before Bryan left the game.

This here with Pac is just BCC 2.0 under a different name, this time just more bad choices from Moxley upfront and should have equally been unplugged when it still was BCC. It sucks ass, Mox never changes, he's gonna see a shitty b-action flick on his way to the show from a some shitty hc aids wrestling indy show and think that's peak entertainment and put whatever trash was there into a AEW show.

Claudio is a shitter that didn't get the clue between getting let go and today that having a personality and swapping your gimmick every once in a while might actually make you interesting so he's just a taller Mox with little bit less b-movies.

Neville/PAC is a shitter who overcompesates his lack of height

And Yuta is too dumb to realize he needed to bail out of this group yesteryear as it's only turning him into a gay aids indie wrestler.

>>16441753
Tony can't book.

>>16454110
Simple as.

>>16441782
The chili pepper necklace worked. AEW can't even come up with a storyline that's better, let alone ON PAR, with grown men fighting over a chili pepper necklace. Shit like this is why Dynamite does 500k now.

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>>16442422
Legitimately haunting

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People are finally starting to realize moxley isn't fucking saying anything in his promos.

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>>16443272
He isn't wrong. The necklace does not fucking matter. The struggle of a younger generation against their antecedents is a universal story that has been told or lived uncountable times in history. You can clearly tell who is in charge and who the young up and comers looking to overthrow him are. Their motivations are straightforward. The peppers could be a crown or a family fortune or a house and the story does not change much.

Nothing the Moxley gang does makes sense or has a clear motivation. There's no big idea behind it. The nWo wanted to take over WCW and constantly had angles where they tried to win control of the company. Evolution was a giant scheme to keep the belt on Triple H and everything they did was towards this goal. The Ministry were always trying to kidnap people to drag into their weird BDSM mall goth cult or kill them for magic reasons. Death Riders just do whatever

>>16454436
>There's no big idea behind it
Tony probably wants it to be "intriguing" but it's all completely hollow and nonsensical because there's no actual plan behind any of it and it's all going literally nowhere. So Mox is forced to spout some cryptic bullshit and try to make it sound like it has some sort of underlying meaning, which it doesn't.

>>16453527
Bischoff did edgy stuff like calling out Vince or making the occasional insider joke but it was all stuff that kayfabe Eric Bischoff would have done.

Russo booked legitimately unwatchable cringe like "Goldberg refuses to job to Kevin Nash and walks away" which made no sense at all. It made Goldberg (your top babyface) look like shit and said that Bill Goldberg the person was a crybaby prick that would ruin a show live in the ring. You had Mark Madden awkwardly trying to sell the angle using insider terms he was reading off a sheet of paper. You had the entire paid audience getting no context at all for what the fuck just happened since they never explained anything to them, so they just watched Kevin Nash play with his hair for a few minuets before he also awkwardly walked out of the ring during a commercial break.

You also have the fact that the advertised rematch between Nash and Goldberg, which everyone thought was going to be Goldberg getting revenge for the fuck finish that ended he streak, ended with that retarded shit. Vince Russo is a retard who retroactively made the dumbest shit Bischoff did not seem as bad because he showed us how much worse it actually can be.

>>16454522
don't act like that retard Dean doesn't have just as much to do with this retarded bullshit as Tony KWABOTY

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>Death Riders tag ends in a run-in DQ so neither guy has to do a job for 2 title contenders, afterwards the babyfaces kill themselves and they just stomp on them for their heat back and leave without a scratch on them
>Claudio's match is a flash pin finish where he beats up Ospreay after to get his heat back and leaves without a scratch on him
People will continue to pretend Moxley isn't another self-mark burying the company for his own ego

>>16452310
Remember when AEW started off and actually had long-term plans they folowed through on?

That must've all been Cody and The Elite. No way could Tony have deteriorated so much if it was really him from the beginning.

>>16452722
Tony should've just had Bryan drop the belt to Darby. Nobody aside from Mox could possibly have wanted yet another shitty invasion angle. All this accomplishes is that now, the people will care a lot less by the time Darby's finally belted, assuming he doesn't kill himself first.

>>16455308
you mean remember when smarks on reddit groupthink headcanoned aew storylines that didn't exist?

I wish aew didn't fuckin suck so much fr

>>16455872
Literally everyone is saying this

>>16455872
I wish it was worse desu.

>>16441753
no Shane McMahon. They teased it but never delivered

>>16441753
Moxley. Just Moxley. The only thing he did in his life that wasn't completely awful is Renee.

Moxley is so fucking embarrassing it's unreal. How does the rest of his shit group keep a straight face with these promos?

>>16456124
they're all retards

>>16455255
A lot of AEW fans always knew. He was the most protected wrestler on the roster even before this. Wouldn't eat a pin from anyone without getting a win in first. People knew and got fed up with it. He was whining to his wife about how Tony would only put the belt on him as a backup plan. Now he's got the belt, everything revolves around him and it sucks. He really thinks he's badass is the thing. No self awareness.

>>16446290
Tony is such a money mark kek

>>16441753
It’s aew

>>16456418
Fair point my friend.

>>16441753
>make the leader the jannetty of the Shield and the only guy so shitty Brock refused to put him over
Gee I wonder why

>>16442339
unironically this