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What a moron.
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>>16627619
He's right you know.
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>>16627619
what would you consider the biggest step? i guess national cable deal maybe but even that wasn't as lucrative.
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>>16627631
>national cable deal

Correct.
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>>16627631
>pay per view
>primetime TV slot
>national cable
>live programming

All bigger
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>>16627619
Cable TV is dead
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>>16627653
lol
streaming is global soon, retard
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>>16627619
This really is huge for wrestling. Until now it's been trapped in a dying medium. Now WWE's biggest show is weekly on the biggest TV platform in the world.
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He's could be right.
It's up there with getting on tv in the past.
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>>16627634
Sure maybe if it still the 1990s boomer

TV is a dead medium. Zoomers on YouTube get more views than anchors on MSNBC who get paid $10 million a year
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>>16627619
Remains to be seen if he's right. It's possible though. It will be hard to be a bigger milestone than the formation of nWo and subsequent Attitude Era though.
Fact is, this is the first time Raw is not on cable TV and has bet heavily on streaming now.
For a 30 year+ show that's definitely a big step and I can see how they are nervous about it. If it works out then WWE will basically become the FIFA equivalent of wrestling, the only wrestling promotion superpower on this planet.
If it doesn't then wrestling was never going to be mainstream popular and Hunter will also have to start booking for 5k max venues like AEW in the future.
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This is the lowest IQ board on 4chan.
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>>16627680
I don't know man, /x/ is still giving us a run for the money.
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>>16627619
Wasn't the nationalisation of the Fed a Fae bigger step forward? What about getting it on national and international TV? Seth is a mark.
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>>16627711
Of course it was. People here are fucking idiots.
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>>16627697
leave my schizobros out of this
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He's right.

WWE is the first major sports show to make the jump from dinosaur TV to streaming.
It's going to lead to the others like the NFL and the NBA who have already started dipping their toes in, to make the jump as well.

And then boom. TV is dead. RAW going full streaming is the biggest thing to happen to pro wrestling since Vince got WWF on tv in the 80s.
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>>16627711
>>16627728
Why was that bigger?
>Becoming more easily accessible nation wide
Vs
>Becoming more easily accessible world-wide
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>>16627711
Globalisation is bigger than nationalisation, gramps. Everyone has netflix and the product will now be consumed by people from different countries, cultures, genders and sexual orientations. WWE won. What a great time to be alive
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>>16627744
>>16627746
I literally can't with you people anymore.
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The amount of dick sucking in this thread is fucking hilarious. As if wrestling has never been streamed online before. Where the hell have you dipshits been? I've been watching wrestling online since the mid 2000s. Netflix is just another of the million streaming platforms that exists
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>>16627746
Well most of the third genders and upwards will have to watch their show on Max, not Netflix, but I'm sure if Tony tries real hard he will manage to bring it on Hulu or something.
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>>16627676
Rose tinted glasses
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>>16627738
Live sports is really the only thing keeping cable alive. A lot of it is already on streaming, and soon it'll all be on streaming. When that happens, the relevance of cable is over. I think it'll continue to exist for a while, but it'll get to the point where it's like home phone, where it's technically still an option but almost nobody has it except boomers.
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>>16627752
Netflix is bigger than all other streaming platforms combined lil guppy
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>>16627752
People pirating the show is not part of the business strategy.
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>>16627752
>I've been watching wrestling online since the mid 2000s
Okay, so you're a hardcore fan and always knew how to get your fix.
The argument is that WWE is now super easy to watch for zoomettes, zoomers and millenial cat ladies all over the planet. They even get to watch PLE's on weekends if you're not living in the free economic zone of Muttistani.
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>>16627711
>>16627728
Global > National

It's you who is retarded.
Netflix is in far more homes than any TV channel.
Fucking boomer yards.
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>>16627664
This is about taking the biggest step forward and how that impacts the product. Live programming was a massive shift. So was the move to primetime. So was the pay per view model. All three fundamentally changed how wrestling was booked. Will the streaming deal do that? Maybe, but I doubt the change will be that drastic. "Biggest step forward" does not meant "biggest possible audience."
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>>16627793
See >>16627800

This isn't about audience size. This is about how each change impacts wrestling as it is presented as booked. Nitro, for example, caused a big shift in both wrestling production value and how it was presented to the audience. I just don't see how Netflix is going to change much about the product at all. The only change is more potential viewers.
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>>16627793
US boomers have a very hard time conceptualizing that other countries also have internet, but not American TV channels.
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>>16627800
>"Biggest step forward" does not meant "biggest possible audience."
Fucking excuse me? Yes it does. That is absolutely ALL that matters.
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>>16627619
y u cryin' porkwheels?
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>>16627800
It's definitely going to have an impact on how shows are booked. They are no longer held to a strict timeslot with strict blocking. Things are more flexible.
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>>16627821
Brother, booking is a tool to retain and ideally increase interest and thus audiences and thus MONEY!
If you can increase audiences (and thus MONEY) by changing platform, then you don't need to care about booking, quality, matches, wrestlers ect.
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>>16627771
>Netflix is bigger than youtube
You're absolutely retarded
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>>16627776
>>16627784
Youtube exists and WWE has had content on there for ages. Countless promotions stream events on there live as well. Anyone with an internet connection can access it. You're all doing tricks on it
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>>16627873
>malding because Netflix is a gamechanger
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>>16627876
>Bouncing on it because it's WWE
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People have streaming fatigue. There's a reason they give away 12 months of Netflix with phone and Internet contracts. If you actually ask people what they watch on Netflix it's nearly always just sitcoms or true crime slop. Netflix isn't churning out hits regularly anymore.
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>>16627873
>Youtube exists and WWE has had content on there for ages.
Not Monday Night Raw broadcasting live every week
>Countless promotions stream events on there live as well
This is of no relevance because nothing is on the level of WWE
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>>16627824
as seen in ratings posters
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>>16627873
I don't get your point. Yeah YouTube is even bigger than Netflix.
But I can immediately see three problems with it:
- Not everyone knows YouTube does live shows now or pays for the YouTube TV service
- Being on YouTube feels kinda cheap, since everyone can upload there. Their live shows might also run into QA bot problems censoring swear words or getting buried by some new viral TikTok bullshit that happened that day
- It's unlikely Google would have shelled out as much cash to have WWE exclusive rights as Netflix did.
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>>16627914
>because nothing is on the level of WWE
Just slobbering on it
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>>16627912
Might this be why Netflix is trying to branch out? Just maybe?
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>>16627923
>Being on YouTube feels kinda cheap, since everyone can upload there
Lmfao
>"This bigger platform with more accessibility isn't a game changer because I don't have to exchange my money for the feeling of exclusivity"
You retard. WWE used to upload entire episodes of shows on youtube. You can watch entire segments and matches on there for the most recent of shows as well. Does that feel cheap? You people have lost the fucking plot
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>>16627835
I'm not saying audience size doesn't matter. You misunderstand my point. I'm saying that these factors here >>16627653 represented bigger steps forward for the industry, in terms of production and booking. These were dramatic shifts to the point that wrestling was changed at a fundamental level. And these actually led to each distinct era in a promotion's history.

>>16627857
That's a fair point. That does have the potential to be a big change. I hadn't thought of that so I appreciate the insight. I guess it remains to be seen just dramatic the shift will be.

>>16627864
That's a terrifying proposition but definitely one to watch out for.
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WWE getting billions of dollars from a streaming company isn't notable or worth being praised but a guy with a newsletter that 500 people reads gives a guy five stars and the board gets flooded. Smarks have lost the plot.
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>>16627928
>fuming
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>>16627738
Nfl has been paywalling games for years now. Theyve been sued over it.
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>>16627935
Maybe but 75% of their subs are zoomers. Do zoomers care about WWE? Zoomer icons like Logan Paul doesn't seem to have done anything for viewership or bringing in new fans.
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>>16627824
>>16627921
To be fair, the only nation that matters is USA. These are American promotions and, aside from the rare spot show, they cater primarily to American fans.
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>>16627793
Extremely low IQ post.

I am laughing so fucking hard.
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>>16627776
No but its a known issue, ufc has dealt with pirating for at least a decade publicly acknowledging it. Thats why certain countries are trying to clamp down on it, no one is paying for their local fc broadcasts for example. Its not a strategy but they know it happens and half heartedly attempt to stop it. Sports dont have nintendo money.
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>>16627940
Can't believe I have to spell it out for you.
- It's not live
- Full matches uploaded are random and never all of them
- It's cut up into many segments, often stuff is edited out
It absolutely feels cheap. It's good for catching up when you don't have the time or access to watch the full episode and that's it.
And I've never said being on YouTube instead of Netflix would not also be a game changer, but we both know full well this board would be unusable with countless hogwheels threads going "LMAO WWE IS NOW A FUCKING YOUTUBE SHOW"
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>>16627950
...in the past. In fact, both of your statements are only true 30 years ago.
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>>16627970
>- It's not live
It can be. WWE's ran it's preshows on there live for decades
>- Full matches uploaded are random and never all of them
This is again entirely by choice. If they wanted to put them up on there the option is there. It's nothing the platform isn't capable of
>- It's cut up into many segments, often stuff is edited out
Same applies as the last point. I'm guessing their deals with networks and Peacock etc stopped them from putting up full shows and all of that. But again that doesn't have anything to do with the platform itself. Youtube is and has been entirely capable of doing anything that Netflix can. To say otherwise just isn't factual
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>>16628032
>This is again entirely by choice. If they wanted to put them up on there the option is there. It's nothing the platform isn't capable of
Yeah uh...you know about this thing called money? Turns out if you put your entire shows on there for free no one would pay to see it and no platform would give you money to have you. Of course it's done "by choice" Jesus Christ.
I'm sure if Google doled out the big bucks, WWE would be on YouTube now. But they didn't, did they? So why would they upload all their shit for free over there?
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>>16627948
A lot of young people don't have access to cable channels. I think there's people who probably would watch WWE, but don't want to pay for a cable bundle just to watch WWE. Being on Netflix will be huge for them.
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>>16627991
No, it's still the case to this day. Both WWE and AEW only do spot shows in foreign nations. The closest they come to running a foreign nation with any regularity is Canada, which is arguably just America's little sister.
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>>16628069
Holy shit you're dumb as fuck. You can charge for videos on youtube. AEW uses Youtube as one of their ppv platforms. It's an option. No one's saying to do anything for free. Thanks for showing just how little you know what you're talking about though
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>>16627619
>having next day replays, episode vault and new programs is le bad
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>>16628209
Literal mental retardation. Did you even graduate high school?
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>Raw moving from USA to Netflix is a bigger deal than Vince consolidating the territories and taking WWF national

How do you morons even function in everyday life?
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>>16627631
The end of the territories was the biggest step forward
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>>16627697
>>16627680
You guys never been to /ck/?
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>>16628232
They're zoomers, anon. They literally can't conceive of anything that happened prior to their birth.
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>>16627970
>>16628069
Suck my motherfucking balls



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