Does this big win at Wrestle Kingdom solifidy them as the greatest tag team of all time? FOr a small junior team to accomplish so much is amazing. People only hate them because they are friends with Dave and better than The Midnight Express.
No tag team comes close to their accomplishments. The literal tag team GOATS
>>16648911cant these 2 bothered to hit the gym
>>16648983Dudleys do
>>16648997The Dudley Boyz are are the only tag team to hold the WWF, WWE, ECW, WCW, NWA, TNA and IWGP Tag Team Championships, as well as to win the All Japan Pro Wrestling's World's Strongest Tag Determination League
>>16649010lets be honest here for a secondif you dont held the world title from wweyou aint nothingtag or singlecope with it
>>16648911more like gayest
>>16649017>the world title from wweWhich fucking one? They've had six or seven different world titles just in the last 25 years.
>>16649010Nice so is big show the best wrestler ever since he’s the only person to win the wcw, wwe and ecw title?Stop posting here ranvier
>>16648911It really is amazing isn't it. They're better than The Road Warriors, Rock N Roll Express, Midnight Express, Hart Foundation, Hardy Boyz, DUDleys, Cope and Christian, and FTR. No one can realistically compare to them.
>>16649030He's my pick for GOAT, yes
>>16649025as long as its not the pg era bullshit ( the bronze plates or shitty red/blue)
>>16649040this troon thinks hes funny with this joke
>>16648911How come nobody wants to see the greatest tag team of all time?
>>16649025Doesn't really matter which one when neither of these faggots will ever hold a world title in their lives
>>16649080you dont understand, its on purpose, the old fucks want it to be empty coz kayfabe like they did with aew
>>16649080Grim. No wonder people don't want to go to AEW shows.
Indianiggers who argue it’s not the young bucks can’t name a single great tag match with a regular tag team that’s not ancient history LMAO.There gonna link some usos match and think anyone gives a fuck
>>16649067It's the literal truth. The YOung Bucks are more over and have done more for the business than all those others. Without them there would be no AEW. They were small undersized indy guys who saved the business and made millions. What did the other fucks do besides coke and steroids?
>>16649099Any team that doesn't do overly choreographed dives is miles better
>>16649111>over >draw any dimeman i wish i prescribed to whatever meds youre on right now
>>16649099Whatever the most recent tag team match in WWE is > every Young Cucks match combined
>>16648911Homie they literally didn't try at all last year and they're still tag team of the year lmaoGod forbid they actually try this year. They'll be the GOAT
>>16649114>>16649127Here they areLink a tagu teamu match you like so we can all have a good laugh Pop a trip on so I know you are from Mumbai from now on in other threads
>>16649152lel. Ask me how I know you're a projecting pajeet, Apu.
>>16649010Bucks have them beat.>IWGP (2 tiers)>AEW >AAA>Dragon Gate>PWG>RoHAll much more relevant than dead companies ;)
>>16649161none of those belts mean anythingi feel sad that you have to go this far to defend generation me, is your life that sad that you need to do this?
>>16649152Like I said, any match that doesn't have retarded overly choreographed dives every 5 seconds
>>16649040>FTR I legit think that FTR are salty as all fuck that despite their constant coattail riding, when it comes to characterisarion, match quality and working a crowd, the Bucks are just better in every way. FTR have the same match with everyone. The Bucks are versatile as fuck. How many times have they managed to turn a crowd around just by the quality of their in ring ability? That's the difference between the Bucks and FTR - FTR need the other team to work well to get the over, the Bucks can get any team over.I think Dax has an actual mental complex over the Stinger requesting the Bucks carry him in his last match.
>>16649174>none of those belts mean anythingSays the guy shilling for the hotpotatoed ECW, WWE and WCW titles lmao. Stay in your lane, drone.
>>16649178>can’t even link oneI accept your concession
>>16649161>PWG>RoH>more relevant than dead companiesLol
>>16649188those are the relevant ones, hot potato or noti dont need lanes i got fast oneyou need a clue tho
>>16649195I don't keep tag team wrestling matches bookmarked in my spankbank like you bud
>>16649182>I think Dax has an actual mental complex over the Stinger requesting the Bucks carry him in his last matchAnd it was in North Carolina and everything. Damn.
Tag team wrestling, on the whole, has been irrelevant for years. WWE, NJPW, AEW, TNA, ROH, NOAH, etc. Name a legitimately great tag title reign from the last 10 years. New Day? Usos? Hardys? GoD? Maybe Dangerous Tekkers from a few years ago was decent. Otherwise it's just entirely forgettable hot potatoes. The only companies putting any effort into booking tag teams are independents that have nothing else... DPW and BJW come to mind, but nobody is watching. The Astronauts have been the best tag team in the world for the last 3 or 4 years and ain't nobody got time for that. Trying to claim relevance in the tag world is a joke. Take you crowns of shit and reign over the derelict, irrelevant kingdom if you like. The Killer Bees are more relevant than the Young Bucks.
>>16649413FTR's first and 2nd tag title reign was fantastic. Same with their IWGP and ROH run. >The Killer Bees are more relevant than the Young Bucks.Maybe on Planet Retard.
>>16649413Tag team wrestling only works when main eventers are tagging for story reasons and it doesn't last long enough to wear out its welcome desu.>>16649443The Young Cucks are completely irrelevant lil bro. That's why the show they're own only draws 500k these days.
>>16649482THe YOung Bucks are the most influential and important tag team in history.
>>16649146>and they're still tag team of the year lmaodidnt they lose to some nxtranny shitters and bianca/jim cargill?
>>16648911Nobody cares about the Old Cucks
>>16649487Saying that doesn't make it true I'm afraid
>>16649161mehnot as impressive at all, hell just holding both WWF/E and WCW is more impressive alone
>>16648911you know wrestling is fake right? the winners are chosen beforehand. being good at politics doesn’t make them better than any of the big attitude era teams.
>>16649146Which as you fail to see the irony, makes the belts mean nothing. They are the very example of I can literally just book to win and hand you some belts because I have enough political power backstage to do it.
>>16648911>cucks stinking up the joint againaew was supposed to keep them contained
>>16649523>>16649502So sorry your dead steriod coke head ROad Warriors got outdrawn by two young bucks. Cope and seethe all you want bu they kick started AEW and drew more than any other team in the last 50 years.
>>16648911i like this picture because as usual they are celebrating in front of a massive sea of empty seats
>>16649574I'm pretty sure quite literally every tag team currently in WWE draws more than the Cucks ever have desu
>>16649600WWE doesn't have any teams I'm afraid. THey don't value tag team wrestling which is why FTR left.
This cuck fag malding rn
>>16649443FTR are a novelty act, they're like a High School play version of Shakespeare. Nobody wants to be a tag team wrestler anymore, and haven't since the 90's. Generations of wrestlers watched HBK, Bret Hart, Booker T, Steve Austin, Kenta Kobashi, Kensuke Sasaki, Takayama, etc. cast aside their tag partners and achieve greatness as singles wrestlers. That's the dream of every aspiring wrestler. Nobody wants to be in a tag team forever... and it shows. That's why tag wrestling is irrelevant. Don't believe me? Here's a fun exercise, pick your favorite company and tell me when they last had a Tag Team title match as the main event of a PPV/PLE. Not just a tag, has to he for the titles. Not just a "road to" show or weekly television, has to be PPV/PLE. Not a double or triple main event, none of that nonsense... it had to have closed the show.For the record, I care little for The Young Bucks, (current day) MCMG, New Day, Usos, etc. I think they're all mediocre tag teams in a mediocre age. My annoyance is purely with their dick riding fans trying to pretend that tag belts in 2025 are of any worth. If you truly value the IWGP tag titles then tell me who held the last 5 reigns.
>>16648911Nobody has ever cared about them
>>16649640and hes doing it for free
>>16649686nah that's ftr and new day. the young bucks have been over for a decade.
>>16649443>>16649487>>16649574kek this retard is so mad he keeps accidentally hitting the caps lock
>>16649664>Here's a fun exercise, pick your favorite company and tell me when they last had a Tag Team title match as the main event of a PPV/PLE.WrestleMania 39.
>>16649705FTR is somehow even less over than the bucksND are absolute shit but I have to begrudgingly admit they were actually over as a team/stable for a bitBucks are still dog shit I'm afraid
>>16649721Bucks are indisputably the greatest tag team of all time and there is no argument against it. They drew the biggest indy of all time and are the reason AEW exists.
>>16649734>Bucks are indisputably the greatest tag team of all timeMaybe on planet retard>They drew the biggest indy of all time and are the reason AEW existsBut enough about Kenny Omega
>>16649413ftr vs briscoes was pretty good but that was for the roh tag belts and nobody saw it so they were kind of just good matches that happenedlegit vastly better than any match or angle the bucks have ever been involved in and easily the best tag program of modern wrestling but being on roh hurt it, you can't be great if the product doesn't support you
>>16649734>Bucks are indisputably the greatest tag team of all time and there is no argument against it.>actually main eventers of their own accord that got more over as a tag team, drew massive houses in the main event and had actual wrestling matches instead of gay ballet routines
>>16649794Bucks have more 5 star matches as a team and sold more merch together. AEW is also more successful than NOAH so their promotion also beats those two. They also don't have cancer and didn't die in the ring. Bucks win.
>>16649718Two day covid events are counted as one PPV, it just has an extended intermission. Cody vs Roman was the main event and everyone knows it.
>>16649734I dont want AEW to exist, you know that right?
>>16649838>copeYou lost. Hogan & Mr. T vs Piper and Orndorff also main evented a WM.
>>16649844So you're a retard cunt who wants wrestlers to earn a lower wage? Fuck you. Opinion discarded.
>>16649833NOAH turned a profit though so they're better>>16649861Wrestlers are vastly overpaid proportional to their value so he's not wrong
>>16649861Lower? I dont want the old cucks to earn any wage.
>>16649861>wants wrestlers to earn a lower wageyeah there are way too many wrestlers who are outright bad and have no/negative appeal earning millionsthe cucks are among them
>>16649856That wasn't for a title now was it?Also, it was in 1985... so you're kind of making my point for me. If the last time Tag wrestling was relevant was 1985 then we are clearly in a mediocre era at this point. Tag team wrestling in 2025 is as relevant and popular as The Simpsons in 2025.
>>16648911>no wwe titles>no wcw titles>no ecw titles>no nwa titles
>>16649182Dax has some fucking trauma over the Bucks being more respected than his team, you can just tell. FTR politicking with Punk not to drop the belts to the Bucks at All In only to drop them in a squash match a few weeks later to the thrown toegher tag team of Stacks/Bill was really fucking telling. When Punk left and all their political sway disappeared, the light went from Dax's eyes. The Bucks getting the Sting retirement match probably crushed him.
>>16649413Kenny and Hangman had a good run because they used the titles to build their own story. Tag teams just can't do that very well and want the division to be in its own little box. At least when people like the Bucks, Kenny, etc, get the belts they use it to advance actual stories instead of just "Hurr I'm the best tag team!" shit like what FTR do. Absolute garbage.The Kenny/Hangman tag team led directly in to Kenny's world title run, Hangman's redemption arc and his subsequent title run. That's the best way to use your tag team titles - build actual stories that use the belts as tools, not something to get yourself over.If you want to see an example of a garbage tag run, look at that time FTR held tag belts in 3 different companies and told zero stories. I know I'm ragging on FTR a lot here but for all the acclaim they get as one of the best tag teams, they seem to utterly fumble the ball when it comes to telling interesting stories.
>>16649876NOAH got a 150 million dollar TV contract? Oh wait no they got CANCELLED! and had to team with the mafia.
>>16649755>ftr vs briscoes was pretty good but that was for the roh tag belts and nobody saw it so they were kind of just good matches that happened3 good matches, zero good story. That's FTR all over.
>>16649017>if you dont heldGOOD MORNING SARS
FTR really does suck cock though. They've been i wrestling for over a decade now and haven't had one real feud or told one real story. It's always the same best of three with those two faggots.
>>16649983They're only good when they're wrestling the Bucks. They're cottail riders through and through>Orton>MJF (who subsequently told them to fuck off)>Punk>EdgeI sincerely hope they get better and learn that "happy to be here company guys" isn't a good gimmick and doesn't make for good stories.
kek remember when the obese bald ftr w/ bulimia had to quit his podcast because of mental health issues lmao
>>16648911WE LOVE YOU GOATS
>>16650044He was probably told to stop, let's face it.
>>16649965While I agree with most of what you've said I would have to suggest that it's only true of modern day tag wrestling. Nowadays tag teams are only as relevant as the subsequent singles storylines that develop from their tag team pairing, but there definitely have been times when tag wrestling was relevant all on its own. It's just that it took dedicated booking and specific circumstances to achieve... and even then it rarely lasted very long. There was a time when fans cared about tag feuds and not just singles storylines. In the West it was largely a result of the territories needing feuds to keep attendance up when the champ wasn't in town or to fill up weekly programming when the champ was a ppv-only attraction. In Japan the tag scene was usually based on faction warfare, which yes typically was used to feed into a single storyline but often enough became so substantial and so bloodthirsty that it stood on its own. Modern day tag wrestling is either midcard filler, where neither man is ever going to achieve anything of worth on their own or singles stars "slumming" it in the tag division for a minute while the booker experiments with other single talent.
>>16648911Their synchronization is really good.
How can they be the GOATS when no one ever paid to see them?
>>16650065I guess what I'd say to that is that tag wrestling doesn't have much in the way of relevancy in the modern era. They're good at telling a handful of stories and only those stories, and they outright go against the very fabric of what tag wrestling used to be >Can they coexist?>Breakup angles>Heavys/foils for the leader of a factionAnything else typically boils down to "we're a better team than you!" which is an offshoot from the other kind of wrestling story that rarely draws big interest - "I'm a better wrestler than you!" shit rarely draws enough intrigue. I hate what tag wrestling has become and I hate that FTR are determined to shit it up.
>>16650200We're basically in agreement then. Modern tag wrestling is more or less a "greatest hits" reenactment of earlier eras, FTR are a (poor) love letter to midsouth tag wrestling, Young Bucks are a tribute act to The Rockers, etc.The last time I enjoyed a series of tag matches purely for the in-ring work would probably be some combination of Astronauts, Strong BJ, and/or Violent Giants. Runaway SUPLEX was good too. I was excited when hell froze over and Nagata teamed with Suzuki but NJPW absolutely failed to capitalize on it.
>>16649971You know you could have as big a TV contract as you want, that doesn't mean you make a profit, right?Which AEW (by Tony's admission) haven't
>>16650002>They're only good when they're wrestling the BucksTheir matches against the bucks are trash thoughThey were good against the briscoes nand they had a good match against white/robinson, also their NXT shit against gable/the black guy
>>16650298Yes. AEW was profitable last year unlike NOAH which has been losing money for over a decade.
>>16650298You know it's still Vince, right?
It's really a shame the bucks & the rest of the elite didn't go to the big league of wwe to see if they would have been kino or cringe
>>16650314>“By getting right fees that are multiple times higher than we initially had, we put the company on the path to profitabilityKek, even Tony disagrees with you lil broHoly Demon Army CLEAR the young bucks and are massively bigger draws I'm afraid
>>16650315Vince sold his company for $10billy bitch
>>16649833>AEW is also more successful than NOAH so their promotion also beats those twoKenny, Jericho and Cody are the active guys to whom AEW's success can be realistically ascribed for various reasons. Kenny for the groundwell, Jericho as a sell to the execs, Cody for the connections with said execs.The Bucks are always just kind of there, and honestly they've never even been popular in AEW.
>>16650353Vince grew up in a trailer park getting beaten and molested by his parents & turned around & made a $10b company. That's unkwboty
>>16648911It would have been nicer if hiromu and naito won, they had that bro moment the night before, maybe they'll get it back at the LA show
>>16650397The Young Bucks are mediocre but Naito is washed. He really shouldn't be allowed outside of New Japan Grandpa matches from here on out. He can tag with Young Lions against guys like Nagata, Kojima and Tenzan.>>16650326Holy Demon Army clears 99% of tag teams in history, that's not a fair fight. The Young Bucks barely clear The Nasty Boys.
>>16648911pudgy, ugly, balding, short, not intimidating.truly an inspiration for all of twitter, reddit and peedub.
The Bucks are anti-draws. They're not the Road Warriors. Or the Midnight Express. Or the Dudleys, E&C, or Hardys. They fucking suck. Change my mind.
>>16650626They're great in ring but as marketability they are not good
>>16649794Miz and Misawa were better
>>16650626The Bucks are better than all of those teams.
>big win>wrestle dynastymutually exclusive terms
>>16650843>but as marketability they are not goodWHAT? marketability is there whole thing, how do you think they got a sneaker deal? they moved more merch than any tag team in history.
>>16649017Considering how much of a joke the company has been for like 2 decades now and how they disrespected their titles since 2008 having a WWE title on your resume is actually detrimental to your wrestling record.
>>16651315True, very true. It's well known that Vince hates tag teams and HHH doesn't seem to have much fondness for them either.NJPW isn't much better. The last good storyline was Dangerous Tekkers vs LIJ and that was only just okay. TenCozy were the last dregs of better times and they're long past their primes. AJPW is probably the only company right now that pays any attention to tag teams... and they somehow juggle two tag titles on a thin roster.
Young Bucks are dimeless flippy shitters, always have been. Yardtard thuperkick faggot party parasites that just do flippy shit retardation to impress themselves and friends and no one else. Its the same story everywhere; sooner or later more often than not, people get sick of their fucking shit and schtick. And the worst of it is wrapping it all up in a sense of irony to deflect criticism of their shit wreatling style. They're not exactly "young" anymore, are they?
>>16648911I hate them because they can't act. It's all just hammy ironic bs. Also all their shit is heavily choreographed, which makes it look awkward and robotic.
>>16648911>winning indie belts >big win lol, lmao even
>>16649161>IWGP>AAA>Dragon Gate>PWGNo one cares about that and if you want to include Nu Japan, then the Motor City Machine Guns have them beat
The Young Bucks are the GOAT tag team of all time and anyone arguing otherwise is a fucking idiot.
>>16648983In terms of belts collected and money made from an autistic mark with an unlimited bankroll, they're at the top. In terms of people knowing who they are they're somewhere down below The Bushwhackers on the list.
>>16652514 >IT'S TIIIIIME FOR THE SAAAAME EVENT!!
>>16652519This. Most wrestling fans couldn't even tell you which is Nick and which is Matt.
>>16649017>leddit spacing street shitterHOLY COWOLA
>>16652596I don't know which cuck is which and I also don't which Uso is which.
>>16652607Jey has shorter hair.
>>16652607The yeet uso sometimes wears shades snd the non-yeet uso gets drunk before driving.
>>16652623>>16652635I should have clarified that I don't care which is which They both fucking suck
kek I LOVE how mad boomers get when you say The YOugn Bucks are better than the Snore Warriors Aniaml and BAWK. There matches fucking stink.
>>16652725The Young Bucks suck.The Road Warriors sucked.FTR sucks.
>>16649010Huh what is the difference
>>16652712I told them you said this and it hurt Jey's feelings.
>>16651315Exactly. His point would hold weight if the E wasn't so inconsistent over the last 20 years.
>>16649010>WCWhuh?
>>16649080>Transformers is the best movie of all time cuz it made so much money!
>>16654392>joker 2 is actually better because it lost money you just don't get it
>>16648911Yeah
>>16648911Least favorite wrestle kingdom
>>16649413>Name a legitimately great tag title reign from the last 10 yearsFRAXIOM
>>16655434>FRAXIOMhuh what u mean
>>16656979Meltzer loves Nate Frazier.
>>16657000Meltzer doesn't watch NXTranny
>>16657127Yes he does, pedo.
>>16648911Road Warriors are better
>>16657154We don't sign our posts here
>>16657183At dying prematurely due to drug use lmao!
>>16657267also at drawing dimes
>>16657291Did they launch a billon dollar company like the bucks?
>>16657127so u don't know
>>16649099>Saar Rybaxel and Slater Gator are all time champwon
