January Live Streaming (all times JST):>AJPW1/18 Shinjuku FACE @ 6:30pm1/26 Chiba @ 5:00pm>NOAH1/11 Korakuen @ 6:30pm1/13 Limit Break @ 4:30pm1/25 Osaka @ 5:30pm>DDT1/11 Kotatsu Fighting 2025 @ 5:00pm 1/18 Fortune Battle @ 5:30pm1/19 DDT New Year Fan Appreciation @ 5:30pm1/25 New Year, New Hero 2025 @ 11:30am>DragonGate01/11 Kyoto - KBS Hall @ 5:00 PM01/12 Edion Arena Osaka - 2nd Stadium @ 6:00 PM01/15 Tokyo - Korakuen Hall @ 6:30 PM01/16 Tokyo - Korakuen Hall @ 6:30 PM01/18 Hyogo - Kobe Sanbo Hall @ 5:00 PM01/19 Hyogo - Kobe Sanbo Hall @ 3:00 PM01/25 THE GATE OF BAYSIDE 2025 @ 4:00 PM>GLEAT1/24 Shinjuku FACE @ 6:30pm>BJW1/24 Korakuen @ 6:30pm>Calendar for schedules:https://en.puwota.com/https://x.com/puwota (every day at 8am JST)>Where to watch:AJPW: https://www.ajpw.tv/NOAH/DDT/Michi Pro/Zero1: https://www.wrestle-universe.com/enDragongate: https://dragongate.live/GLEAT: https://www.youtube.com/@LIDET_ENTBJW: https://bjwcore.com/FREEDOMS: https://www.youtube.com/@freedoms6464Osaka Pro: https://www.youtube.com/@user-bm6he4ct3fPrevious >>16607749
>>16705088dimes
Noah should ask WWE if All Rebellion could borrow Hikuleo to counter Omos
>>16705619Kobashi likes the Kiyomiya/Ozawa rivalryhttps://x.com/FortuneKK0327/status/1877648946253705247
>>16705088>DDT>1/11 Kotatsu Fighting 2025 @ 5:00pm
>>16705088>NOAH>1/11 Korakuen @ 6:30pm
>NJPW>2/11
>>16705088Fuck Endo.
>>16705088
>>16707120Gonna miss Wagner3
The 1/3 AJPW show was really good.
Kakutolog released a calendar tool. NJPW, AJPW, NOAH, DDT, Gleat, Stardom, Marigold, TJPW, and RIZIN.https://x.com/kakutolog/status/1877879876092600539
>>16709227Skipping over the #2 promotion?
>>16709316Maybe they have a bad relationship with Dragon Gate? Doesn't look like they write them up on the site much either.
>>16705088>1/26 Chiba @ 5:00pm
>>16709227is this run by the same guy who ran the puwota site
>>167071204 bongs
>>16705892i'm glad the GOAT still believes in our boy
hype for the Young Dragon Cup
>>16710528This is Kato’s to lose, but they also jobbed him out to Yamato at the first event of the year, so who knows what DG’s mindset is.
>>16710528Participants in order of their debut>Riita (27) - 24.10.2021>Ryu Fuda (23) - 27.11.2021>Mochizuki Jr (22) - 11.05.2022>Yoshiki Kato (28) - 05.06.2022>Daiki Yanagiuchi (26) - 11.01.2023>Ryoya Tanaka (25) - 14.05.2023>Homare (20) - 05.09.2024>Akiriho Sahara (24) - 29.09.2024>>16710549I think they're slowly building him up again, he only just came back last month after having missed 10 months due to injury.
>>16708805Tajiri said he bought the PPV for OZAWA
>>16705892Can't believe how good Ozawa turned out. He moved pretty bad in his debut.
Brookes is thirsting for Ozawa
>>16707120It';s LIVE
the ozawa effecthttps://x.com/kunisaito92/status/1877987207400853675
>Today, for my final match with Noah, I want to wear a gown inspired by Misawa-san. I never had the chance to meet him, but the colors connect us today. But what connects us most is that in the ring we are Emerald Warriors and Aztec Warriors.https://x.com/hijodewagner/status/1878019754134499426
>>16711183Surprising that Noah has cheap tickets. I was assuming that S-Seat are 12,000 to 15,000 yen
So where is Wagner going?
>>16711217WWE
>>16711217Not sure about his english skills but he has a lot of options to pick even njpw. Hope he will made the right choice and he even said "matane" at the end.
I really like OZAWA and Omos but I really dont need to see all these people continue wrestling after they gave OZAWA/Kenoh what felt like 18 minutes
what the fuck
kek what a heel stable
>distract Endo from just hitting his move and winning when he's on your sideOk
[Good News]Galeno is joining All Rebellion[Sad News]Manabu lost
The consequences House of Torture selling good looking t-shirts is having on Japanese wrestling
now Nakajima can come back to slap Endo again but as a face
Ozawa KaitoMorris KenohOmos GalenoEndo HarutokiDaga AlejandroOwada Fujimurateams are equal now besides Yoshitatsu
>>167111831,535人 (Sold Out)
>>16711447White hot product
>>16705088>DragonGate>THE GATE OF BAYSIDE 2025https://youtu.be/HwGP6LUAUTE
Jacky Kamei has joined Gold Class.Confirmed for Gate of Bayside>Open the Twin Gate Titles: Kota Minoura & Jason Lee (c) vs. Riiita & Jacky Kamei
>Galeno del Mal, it's against the rules to hit someone from behind!>Do you think that kind of behavior is acceptable?>The Champion himself will personally punish the cowards with his wrath!>You're being forced to return home together with your brother, Hijo de Doctor Wagner Jr.!!!>I will protect the peace of this beautiful country, Japan!!>卍Japanese Spirit卍https://x.com/noah_taishi/status/1878071173478773137
I watched some Japanese wrestling for the first time in a while (the big Stardom, NOAH and New Japan shows). It's never, ever been worse. This is the grimmest period by a long way.
>>16711689>the big Stardom, NOAH and New Japan showsbig mistake
>>16711712What are the good promotions now? Are there any left? I saw AJPW just put the Triple Crown on a jabroni.
brackets for Gleat's G-RUSH tournamenthttps://x.com/LIDET_ENT/status/1876826336184226031
THANK YOU NOAH>clap clap clapclapclapTHANK YOU NOAH>clap clap clapclapclapTHANK YOU NOAH>clap clap clapclapclap
>>16711627Jacky was due for a turn so the Gold Class move is weird. Honestly Gold Class in general being a thing is weird when Big Hug had more potential with two recent champions. They also need to hurry up with Dark Masquerade.
need to say there's a green haired qt front row at the last 2 dragon gate shows. that's all.
>>16712807Pics?
>>16712819not gonna watch the whole show again looking for a good shot of her but she's on the hardcam side. she had a nice looking camera with her too, if anyone happens to know her @
>>16712875nice. reminds me of that time 3 JAV actresses attended on of DGs Korakuen shows
puro newfag here who started watching noah because i think omos is based. i really really really love ozawa, i think he is incredible
>>16712882Chris Brookes had Melody Marks, June Lovejoy and Rae Lil Black attend his shows.
>>16713019She used to be a big Dragongate fan, because they were the only promotion that held shows in the town where she lived. During covid she used to stream on twitch and would have wrestling wednesday where she streamed DG's shows. Sadly her simp chat and the fujoshis ruined it.
>>16712891faggot
Anyone have the 2024 annual attendance numbers?
>>16713062how did they ruin it?
>>16713126From my recollection, Rae revealed that HYO was her favorite wrestler in Dragongate. Some people started bothering HYO online and the fujoshi fans tracked it back to Rae simps. She then said that she started to feel unwelcome at shows from other fans.
>>16713062She also tried being active on the Dragongate subreddit, perhaps wanting to get into the English side of the fandom, but that subreddit has never really been that activehttps://www.reddit.com/r/DragonGatePW/comments/fbrhw8/champion_gate_2020_in_osaka/https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonGatePW/comments/fbpuu4/day_2_osaka_is_about_to_start/https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonGatePW/comments/fmuw5e/live_streaming_starts_in_2_and_half_hour/
>>16711217>>16711223>>16711233I don't think he is going to WWE until he builds his career and name a little more.Ideally, he goes to CMLL, worst scenario will be Mexican indies/ AAA.
how big is 2000X gonna get?
>>16713062She bogged herself hard but I respect her taste
>>16713503would help if they had a better name. Not that I can think of one.
>>16712891The backflip into relaxed pose has been living rent free on my head since I saw him doing it, ngl.
>Go Shiozaki (42) of Pro Wrestling Noah fought his last match before going on a hiatus.>In the third match, he teamed up with Kazuyuki Fujita, Atsushi Kotoge, and Hajime Ohara in an eight-man tag match against Naomichi Marufuji, Takashi Sugiura, Masa Kitamiya, and Daiki Odajima.>Shiozaki hit Odajima with a reverse chop and a fisherman buster, and finally got the three-count with a powerful lariat. Backstage, he stated that he would be absent for a while to undergo maintenance on his entire body, including surgery on both knees.>Shiozaki explained, "When will I return? I don't know, because I'll have to see what happens after the surgery. I want to fix not just my knees, but all the other parts of my body that are bad. It may sound bad, but I'm making good use of my absence. I'll heal properly, I promise you that."https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/5c29e0fa3adff2fef041cfda3191800561b72367
>>16711654>I will protect the peace of this beautiful country, Japan!!>卍Japanese Spirit卍loooooooolyou gotta love the ozawaister, ya just gotta!
>>16713019based queen of japan melody
>>16713640why go so fragile baka
>Long text.>This year marks Noah's 25th anniversary.>Of course, the belt is something I've thought about, but I want to show how I've lived my life in Noah.>I'm the oldest wrestler who's been with us since the start, and now there are a lot of attractive wrestlers.>So there it is.>I would like to have a singles match at this 25th anniversary tournament.>I feel like there are things I can convey because I have stayed at Noah.>It will be a singles match with a wrestler who wants to experience that.>Of course, I'm thinking of Noah wrestlers, but if there are any wrestlers from other organizations or overseas who want to experience it, I'd love it.>Who do you fans want to see single with?>Where and with whom will you do it?>March 2nd (Sun) Yokohama Budokan, Kanagawa>May 3 (Sat) Ryogoku Kokugikan, Tokyo>Late June in Osaka city>July 19th (Sat) Korakuen Hall, Tokyo>July 20th (Sun) Korakuen Hall, Tokyohttps://x.com/noah_marufuji_/status/1878077589639811122
>>16715554sneed wants ithttps://x.com/BRONSONISHERE/status/1878107646777032949
>>16715554Ibushi rematch let’s gooo
packed
>>16715877>/ourguy/ is a huge drawThank you, Omos for drawing the house
>>16715877Good for noah and ajpw to always fill the korakuen hall
>>16715554If KENTA is done with NJPW they can run it back
>>16715971KENTA is done with njpw?
[Good News] you can watch Ryukyu Dragon, Okinawa's local fed, live tonight on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40f-4bYRPYo
>>16715985Seems like it. He tapped out to kushida in his last match.https://x.com/KENTAG2S/status/1876861963457761697
>>16715985New Japan told him he wasn’t needed for the G1 this year, threw him in the Ranbo for a few years straight at Wrestle Kingdom and NOAH had him go over Kenoh clean last week. After the match Kenoh asked KENTA to “come home” to the promotion. KENTA himself has said he’s not able to move back to Japan, but he could still work the occasional NOAH show. He’s not even booked for the NJPW show in America tonight.
>>16714488Gross ear
>>16713640looks like Shiozaki's last match before hiatus will actually be Limit Break on Monday vs Yonehttps://x.com/noah_ghc/status/1878260660561432787
>(You)
>>16715702nah
>>16713640>>16717731i'm glad he's finally getting everything fixed. should have done it much sooner though
Alejandro out of the card. Due to the phoenix splashhttps://x.com/noahglobal/status/1878257781368881451
>OZAWA: "Galeno! You were tweeting (to me in Japanese) on X, but your Google translation is too much! Use ChatGPT! Also, are you aiming to team up with GHC Heavyweight? There's a Japanese proverb that goes like this: "He who chases two rabbits catches neither." Look it up on ChatGPT. Let's meet again soon."https://x.com/noah_ghc/status/1878399433853092029
Nakajima vs Tanaka on the 26thhttps://x.com/LIDET_ENT/status/1878351967766102221
NOAH New Year clips in webmbro's thread >>16719361
>>16720588OZAWA don’t miss
Any of you guys actually subscribe to GLEAT now? Is it tangibly any... different?
Open The New Year Gate 2025 January 16, 2025Open the Owarai Gate Championship: Lingerie Mutoh (c) vs. Takashi Yoshida
>>16721154New boom period incoming
NOAH won't even say his name, yet here's BJW using Elgin to promote the Sekimoto vs Jeff Cobb match on the 24thhttps://x.com/ProresuToday/status/1878373479957016681https://youtu.be/bj5jF00Eoac
>>16722164 i saw this regarding elgin on twitter a while back
https://youtu.be/3YlHSSH1gWs
>>16705088>1/13 Limit Break @ 4:30pm
>>16723185i don't see team noah lasting much without go there
>>16723566They haven't done anything since forming and they'll continue doing nothing.
>>16722310Stealing is stealingso Elgin doesn’t win anything here
pick a side
>>16724244The side that doesn’t have Yoshi Tatsu.
>>16724244they put endo in there? huh
>>16713640guess this shit doesn't work
>>16725074His reasoning related to getting KWABbed by Nakajima made sense but the execution in the match he joined them in was fucking dumb.
https://x.com/hijodewagner/status/1878636741139296343
>>16725931CMLL or WWE, por favor!
>>16725931What's his degree in?
>>16725969Love
>>16725969thugonomics
>>16725378that's just viagra
>>16723185Semi finals now.
Kuroshio TOKYO Japan launches his own promotion, Uptown, on April 16th at Shinjuku FACE!Seems like the group will consist of Ikemen Jiro, Tachibana Seigo and Momoka Hanazono
>>16715877The omos offect
>>16726989why
>>16726989Is it going to be a promotion or a one time produce show?
Eeeeeeeeeehhhhhh
>>16727640Looks like a produce show, like Riki Pro.
>>16727685Dragongate has been great lately
nothing ever came of the accidental reveal that Wrestle Universe has a DragonGate section internallyhttps://support.wrestle-universe.com/hc/ja/articles/33962620010521-How-to-use-the-Reordering-Groups-function
>>16728072I’m assuming they were approached and talks went semi-far, but nothing was ever agreed to. DG has solid relationships with all promotions, but as of today is probably the closest with NJPW, so they may want to maintain their own service to avoid cutting off any partner.
>>16729398based
>>16729398Legit based as fuck.
>>16726989Magnum fucking Tokyo appeared for the first time in 15 years to support the launch of this promotion. Imagine not doing anything for Dragon Gate or GLEAT but coming out in public to dance with Kuroshio.
>>16729398zoomer naito is over with me brother
>>16730059Is that the black actor that does jav?
>>16730394Good thing Naito invented that pose.
>>16725931I see his career going CMLL then WWE, this guy is extremely talented and I hope to see him on a bigger stage. Not to knock on AEW but I just dont think he’ll get the exposure he needs
>>16730451Magnum Tokyo was one of the first Dragon Gate wrestlers. He was even on Monday Nitro dancing with Disco Inferno & Alex Wright.
2024 Attendance numbers from the promotions that that drew over 10,000. Excluding shows outside of Japan, and a comparison to their 2023 numbers.New Japan - 246,221 (262,439 in 2023) down 6.2%Dragon Gate - 96,829 (89,132 in 2023) up 7.9%Stardom - 83,049 (97,413 in 2023) down 14.7%NOAH - 65,156 (104,045 in 2023) down 37.4%All Japan - 63,551 (63,095 in 2023) up 0.7%DDT - 58,741 (41,185 in 2023) up 29.9%Big Japan - 27,260 (29,404 in 2023) down 7.3%Marigold - 24,367Tokyo Joshi Pro - 22,823 (24,695 in 2023) down 7.6%Kyushu Pro - 20,084 (15,518 in 2023) up 22.7%GLEAT - 13,682 (15,548 in 2023) down 12%Oz Academy - 12,350 (10,691 in 2023) up 13.4%FREEDOMS - 10,397 (12,544 in 2023) down 17.1%
>>16731642>that drop in NOAHwhat happened? Has Muta been that bad?
>>16731680The Muta retirement tour was a draw. 30,000 alone for the Tokyo Dome show.
>>16723185based fujita tag once again, how shocking
>>16731721Oh I see, I knew he was booking NOAH at one point but I didn’t think of his retirement tour
>>16731642>Kyushu Pro up 22.7%
>>16731642Guess hiring ikimen and male idols worked.
>>16731976But why male models?
>>16731642>GLEAT down 12%batsu batsu
>>16731988Because pujoshis and idol fans buy tickets. For example, Kaisei Takechi was able to fill korakuen with 1600 people alone, though he only had 3 matches with ddt
>>16732072KWAB Style
>>16731642>Dragongate, DDT and Kyushu up>everything else down or flatIt’s almost like more entertainment-based wrestling is a draw in Japan over in-ring product
>>16731853no idea about kyushu pro desu
>>16734292The run on a lot of malls and stuff like that but randomly streamed a big show last summer and it was pretty good. Tajiri is the booker I think.https://x.com/kyushupro_new/status/1872590859235119447https://youtu.be/i22VloTh7ws?t=7831
>>16731642>NOAH down significantly>Ozawa mogging Kaito in the New Year as a cheating heelWhat's going on with Kaito? Hanging out with Umino too much?
>>16711967There's something about Jun's gimmick I really like. One of the best straight-forward delinquent bad guy types I've seen, fully committed to it.
>don't even try to bull shit us brother
>The Triple Crown was won by Jun Saito, the World Tag Team was won by Jun and Rei Saito Brothers, and the World Junior Championship was won by "Mister Saito" Doi Naruki. The major titles were all monopolized by the "Saito Gang.">Honda, who is usually always smiling, has changed his expression as ELPIDA's base has fallen, which is hard to imagine from his spirited expression in the ring.>"First of all, we have to take the Triple Crown back to ELPIDA," he said with a straight face. The four members of ELPIDA are on an equal footing. Anyone can be a leader or a mood maker. It's not decided that Anzai will be the ace.https://x.com/alljapan_pw/status/1879002428487676210
>>16736984>Honda's popularity is also starting to grow, especially among children. He commits foul plays and then counts out the fouls together with the referee, "1, 2, 3, 4," and the number of fans who join in the count is increasing.>The number of requests for his victory dance, the "Hon Dance," which he occasionally performs, is growing day by day. "I'd be happy if we could all enjoy it," Honda says with a cheerful voice. He also wants to dance in the ring with little fans. "The Hon Dance will cheer you up! If you want to cheer up, let's dance together!" he says.>He honestly uses positive words like "Happy!" "Fun!" "Delicious!" "Great!" He's natural and not pretentious. He has a pure heart that we forget as we grow up. He's always cheerful. And full of energy. He makes people smile. He embodies All Japan Pro Wrestling's philosophy of "cheerful, fun, and intense pro wrestling."
half hour match between Tajiri vs Triple H for the title at a 2003 house show in Tokyohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f4EfTqYUPc
>>16737144>alright Tajiri you're going over Hunter at a house show in Japan and winning the belt brotherWeird growing up on that nonsense era of WWE and finding out about the total flipside of what Japan was doing later, particularly with a seemingly total opposite in Inokiism NJPW.
>>16733130This cannot be understated. There’s a definite shift in what people expect from a pro wrestling show in Japan these days. You aren’t appealing to middle age salarymen anymore - the growth is coming from young women and families, and those groups rather see a variety show in a ring instead of traditional boring match after boring match. There’s nothing in Japan like DDT, while DG is very locally aimed at fan interaction.
>>16731642I'm guessing that this is from a Japanese source? I've seen a few different totals for 2024 and they all seem to have ended up with different numbers (except for AJPW, oddly)
>>16737681kyushu pro leans heavy into fan interactions, especially kids
>>16731642>DG, AJPW, DDT, Kyushu & Oz up>Everything else downtake that gaijin infested shitter promotions
>>16737681speaking of fan interactions. I miss gong kids & Doi Darts, that was some of the best fan interaction stuff in wrestling that Dragongate had going for it.
ummm, what the hell is this?
>>16735933promos goodhttps://x.com/noah_taishi/status/1879098738951819425
>>16731642Extremely grim
>>16732072Is there a bigger anti-draw than this guy?
>>16736984>The Triple Crown was won by Jun SaitoAre All Japan actively trying to go out of business now?
>>16737681It's hardly a secret about women and wrestling with how many pretty boys are being pushed across all companies
>>16738964DBS Jr. forgot to kick out
NOAH 1/12 and Michinoku Pro 1/11 both up on Wrestle Universe
Will KENTA continue to be a shitposter in NOAH?
>>16737764I did what the original attendance guy did. I looked up the reported numbers of the Japan exclusive shows on cagematch, purolove, and weekly pro wrestling. Added them all up, and compared them to the 2023 numbers. It also helped that there were monthly numbers posted in the archives, and added them up to the months that didn't get posted.
>>16738714That’s the legendary Problem Dragon Problem Dragon aka Mondai Ryu x2 taking on some oldtimer
>>16738204Brookes is at the top of DDT, but they don’t have those random foreign invaders going over their talent or inviting random westerns to their shows with a ton of promotion. Says something that growth is seen with the more insular companies.
>>16738964They need to get the belt back on Anzai asap
>>16740783who spilled DDT all over my nice clean AJPW
>>16740847judging from the attendance figures All Japan could learn from DDT
>>16741132AJPW does way better per show attendance average.
>>16741132>Be DDT>Be one of the slowest promotions to recover post scamdemic>Finally have an okay year despite stuff like Ultimate Party still drawing relatively poorly>Everyone clapsStudy the cagematch (attendance) and get back to me
>>16738714I can’t read moonrunes - is there a reason PD is wrestling on a NOAH show?
With Aoyagi having more control with Suwama gone we can expect All Japan to lean even more into comedy nonsense. Truthfully, I would not be shocked to see Japanese pro wrestling become WWE-like in the next decade. Tam Nakano's "Japanese wrestling is too complex for people to get into and we need to dumb it down." statement is particularly concerning. Wrestlers are probably looking over at WWE and thinking, why am I trying so hard? My hope is that what people really want is charismatic wrestlers above all else and the fact all the character guys are heels is just a coincidence.
>>16741668>All Japan to lean even more into comedy nonsense.They booked Black Mensore for 10 years. They also booked Ikemen Jiro and Seigo Tachibana. I doubt they’ll have even more comedy matches
>>16741668hopefully signing Suzuki is a signal that won't happen. He's not a comedy guy.
>>16731642Not a bad debut year for Marigold. They managed to beat TJPW only running half the year. They are pretty clearly number 2. Don't think they will come close to sniffing Stardom so long as they do not have major financial backing though.
DragonGate 01/15 Tokyo - Korakuen Hall @ 6:30 PMMasaaki Mochizuki vs Mochizuki Jr.Hyo vs Kota MinouraKzy vs Luis ManteMadoka Kikuta vs ISHINJACKY KAMEI vs Jason LeeBen-K vs Shuji KondoStrong Machine J vs Susumu YokosukaDragon Dia vs Naruki DoiYAMATO vs Shun Skywalker
>>16741737Yeah, maybe I'm overreacting. I just worry about the presentation of guys like Honda who, yes, was always goofy, but the cringe dance is a bit much if they want him to be treated as a serious guy. As far as Aoygai goes if he wants to spend another 3 months feuding with Jiro he can go. I'm over him after his dud of a title reign.
>>16741668I said similar stuff earlier >>16737681 in response to another anon. Feels like a shift is on the horizon both in terms of focus and measures to capture the modern native audience. New Japan will remain king because of their big lead and the number of events run every year, but there’s clearly more than one way to win over people and grow your attendance.
Is this Strong Style or King’s Road?
>>16742272Society style.
Will there be a UJPW show in 2025 that isn't just NOAH/NJPW centered?
>>16742403considering how poorly they all did, I doubt we'll see any at all
>>16742403Sure hope that this deal is dead
>>16742272Sloppy Job Mossad style
>>16742104It has been the case for a while that there is room for other niches, but whether or not they will supplant traditional Japanese pro wrestling we have yet to see. I just do not want to see the full WWE-ization (really what I mean is a shift to sports entertainment) of puro and for it to maintain its identity. I do think at the end of the day New Japan and it's audiences tastes are still closer traditional puro. The real litmus test would be to see what Evil would do on top so we can get an idea of what his true drawing power is. The rejection of Umino who is supposedly the guy for the women and children is at least some evidence that this trend may not be what the audience actually wants. Ozawa is insanely charismatic similar to Naito, but we will see how he draws without Nakamura backing him up. The audience loves character guys that much is clear. I don't necessarily think this means that top end workrate stuff will be causality, but it is still a concern. Plus Dragon Gate which is the closest analog to WWE in Japan doesn't average huge numbers per show, but they run a lot. Worth considering too when people just look at raw ticket sales. It does not necessarily correlate directly to profit, but rather revenue.
>>16742403He's dead, Jim. The shows bombed, and even with a focus on charity, the people did not react well to them. New Japan doubled-down with the AEW relationship, putting more belts on outside talent, and NOAH took a page from them and forged the same type of relationship with WWE. Best-case-scenario is another All Together show if something really bad hits Japan.
>>16742104the other promotions are killing their hype by running the same areas into the ground. New Japan and Dragon Gate feels like the only promotions that does a proper touring schedule around Japan while the other promotions are satisfied running Korakuen 3-4 times a month.
>>16741668>My hope is that what people really want is charismatic wrestlers above all else and the fact all the character guys are heels is just a coincidence.I don't think it's exactly a coincidence, I think it's that heels have an easier time being charismatic. It's just really hard to be cool or have a distinctive personality if you aren't allowed to act at least a little edgy, and the more room you have to be edgy the easier it is
>>16741132DDT does more shows but generally smaller crowds, similar to Dragon Gate.
>>16742571Yeah most promotions run Tokyo into the ground, but I guess in in their defense the Japanese would rather be packed in like sardines then live anywhere else. Like 30% of the countries population live in that city.
>>16743260country's*Also with regard to Kyushu. Aren't they not charging for kids for tickets or something similar. Makes it hard to compare against the rest imo since that is not equivalent business wise compared to other promotions.
>>16743286They're a nonprofit and don't charge for tickets at all. They use a lottery system instead
>>16742272>President's Road, great stuff, terrific, not like that disastrous Sissy Style. Terrible!
>>16742403One of Inoki’s dreams was to hold such events, but his dream was only fulfilled when COVID was raping the business and when puro is dead. Sad shit.
>>16743332yeah thanks.
>>16742513EVIL and SHO are still fairly popular and House of Torture are merch sellers but there has been a definite shift in where they are on the card regardless. Zack being on top too shows there's still definite emphasis on sports based presentation.
>>16743633EVIL has always been a top merch seller even pre-HoT as an aside. HoT has mostly been a midcard act since last year. They played spoiler in the New Japan cup, but were not on top. EVIL had the Tanahashi match in the middle of the WK card, Evil never went above the NEVER belt and HoT was mostly involved in the NEVER 6 man title scene. They kinda feel like a filler act to me rather than a big direction the company is pushing for. Plus Narita is in no way ever gonna get to the level of EVIL so I can take solace in that. At best he'll be a Kanemaru type heel and that's my preferred style of heel anyway.
>>16741845DG with another solid card to start the year. They should hold a 1v1 card every quarter besides the annual King Of Gate.
>>16732072Zesty Inoki
>>16742216Slender Man but it's Baba
>>16731642After counting all of the shows with a confirmed attendance number, here's the average for these promotions.New Japan - 1,686All Japan - 859Kyushu Pro - 803NOAH - 740Stardom - 659DDT - 593Dragon Gate - 580Oz Academy - 561Marigold - 460Tokyo Joshi Pro - 423GLEAT - 415FREEDOMS - 289Big Japan - 220
>>16731642>>16744855When is NJPW's reign of terror gonna end? It's been over 50 years now.
>>16745709They would need a downturn worse than their competitors plus a rise by at least one promotion of monumental proportions. Like having the Reiwa generation completely bomb while having OZAWA be the draw of the century to boost NOAH. It’s just not likely, and you’ll probably just see an overall collapse of the industry in Japan rather than NJPW becoming the #2 promotion.
>>16745709Inoki basically told the other major promotions to take over in the 2000s by fucking up his own company but none of them capitalized on that opportunity long term.
>>16745709Only times were where that was even a thing were the neck and neck with All Japan in the 70’s & 80’s, and the brief period from 2005-2007 with NOAH.
>2025 Recommended Athletes (Men's)>Oleg Boltin #njpw>Atsuki Aoyagi #ajpw>Daiki Odashima #noah_ghc>Yuya Takashika #ddtpro>Hoki #DRAGONGATE>Ryo Aitaka #GLEAT>Kazumasa Yoshida #bjw>Dragon Libre #pw_freedomshttps://x.com/shupromobile/status/1879191880900218976
>>16746250Most of these make sense but Aoyagi is far from a rookie
>>16741845free YouTube streams for first match (Masaaki Mochizuki vs. Mochizuki Jr.)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zge6afW689A - ENG streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=734VfKS8kvI - JP Stream
>>16747394is the DG eng commentary cringe?
>>16747518It's meh, Jae is fine, I don't think he's as cringe as some of the Brits other puro companies have chosen as their English announcers he's mostly there to enlighten you on DG lore with Ho Ho Lun there to be fun with his Engrish.I prefer to first watch in Japanese and then if important promos come up I switch over to English as Jae is great for live translation.
>>16741845>>16747394LIVE
>>16745938NJPW wouldn’t have been surpassed even then because the once in a century talent Tanahashi decided to stay, Inoki’s name which is associated with NJPW was still revered even if he done worse than what he did and the other promotions failing to make competent successors to the old guards.
>>16747920Good thing you fell for propaganda. Tanahashi didn't draw but him getting a long reign stabilized the product and let people know what they were getting from New Japan, as opposed to other promotions pushing someone for a few months and then burying them in the undercard.
Ben-K vs Kondo was so fucking good guys
>>16747394Based
NOAH Jr Tag League teamshttps://x.com/noah_sales_/status/1879459532843487693
>>16748619I'm not fond of this faggot.
>>16748651Dang, looking pretty bad. I hope Based Kotoge and Ohara win.
>>16748829A phrase you have often heard out of people's mouths when talking about you.
>>16748651Any details on Trew & Lacey?
