Why was the WCW able to create stars, but AEW doesn't have a single wrestler who is good in the ring or on the mic?
>>16710609>the WCWWhat?
>>16710609WCW never made a star
>>16710616(((DDP))), (((Goldbergstine))), (((Booker T))), Rey, Eddie,
MJF>>16710626Goldberg was never good on the mic
>>16710609His name is Hangman page and why wasn't WCW able to stay on TV longer than AEW?
>>16710626>Goldberg>>16710609>who is good in the ring or on the micLMFAO
>>16710628mjf is neither good on the mic nor in the ring. its why WWE offered Ethan Paige a contract and not MJF>>16710635literally who?
>>16710639>Paigekek e-drones are so bad at pretending they care about midcard leftovers.>literally who?The man Phil sees in his nightmares.
>>16710609Goldberg barely counts
>>16710648ethan page was clearly the best AEW wrestler, that is why he gets nearly a milly and aew gets 500 keey
>>16710609>AEW doesn't have a single wrestler who is good in the ring or on the micI'll keep this exclusive to AEW-built names and leave out guys like the Copester, Christian, etc>Adam Page>Darby Allin>Toni Storm>Mariah May>Kyle Fletcher>Swerve>MJF>Willow NightingaleThese are all names that if you moved them over to WWE tomorrow could be top featured acts on the main roster immediately
>>16710653Goldberg wasn't good in the ring or on the mic kek. He was over as a motherfucker. But he doesn't even meet the standards OP set himself
>>16710609AEW can't create stars because Tony is a clueless moron with no idea how to run a wrestling promotion. He signs dimeless shitters and the few guys with a little star potential that AEW does have he ruins with his incompetence. I remember when Kenny actually used to be a draw in AEW but he just came back after a long absence and nobody even gave a fuck because people have learned that when somebody goes to AEW it's time to stop caring about them because they won't do anything good in the tranny rodeo.
>>16710655Ethan Page was clearly the best AEW wrestler, that's why AEW made zero effort to keep him.>nearly a millyWhy didn't he get those numbers any other week before Dwayne?Is Slopdown really that boring you'd rather be posting this instead of anything that happened on it?
>>16710660none of those names have talent and would be on nxt lvl up fucking swerve flunked out of NXT
>>16710667>no idea how to run a wrestling promotion.Record-setting TV renewal deal btw. How come WCW didn't come out?
>>16710668I don't watch slopdown because its gay coconut shit without any stars. all the good wrestlers like Drew and Chad and IYO are on RAW
>>16710672What's NXT Level Up? When can I watch that show?
>>16710672>would be on a show that no longer existsdrones don't even watch their own slopSwerve was on Smackdown btw>>16710678kek. KEK
>>16710635>why wasn't WCW able to stay on TV longer than AEW?WCW was on TV for 13 years lil bro. AEW isn't even halfway there.
why do the gayEW faggots think people would like (((mjf)))? fag is less over than johnny reddit
>>16710684Because WWE fans have been clamoring for him to go over there for years and still are to this day >>16703767
>>16710668Kek this tranny's seething because NXT started outdrawing Dynamite after Ethan Page got there. Maybe Tony's shouldn't have fumbled him.
>>16710635>Hangman Page is a starLOL no. He is a night light at best. He tops out where he always has and that’s as a mid card talent. If he surprise debuted at Wrestlemania for example literally 2 people in the arena might know who he is. If you asked someone off the street who Hangman Page is they’d probably assume that’s the name of a porn star.
>>16710683>WCW was on TV for 13 yearsnot on cable
>>16710696>if he debuted at Wrestlemania retard pigs wouldn't know him>>16710690It's OK. I wouldn't want to answer that question either.
>>16710696>thinks the average person on the street would recognize "Roman Reigns"edrones are out of their fucking minds yo
>>16710687that is a gayEW falls flag thread
Because great storylines make moments and stars and storytelling is AEW’s biggest weaknesses. Tony does not and will probably never figure out how to write or book really good or memorable stories. He thinks wrestling is like the fucking circus and as long as you show the audience an exciting acrobatics routine and few hokey, completely cooperative looking spots that are unrealistic you’re putting on a good wrestling show.The stories in AEW suck so bad. Small and/or unambitious let alone don’t make sense. None of the wrestlers’ characters feel larger than life or special.
>>16710706Remember for a majority of e-drones, on the street refers to a designated shitting street.>>16710719Is this "falls" too?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmm1-ZasW9o
>>16710696>If you asked someone off the streetNo one off the street knows any current day WWE names either. They'll tell you Austin and Rock and and Cena and Hogan and Undertaker and Jeff Hardy. Not a single motherfucker knows who Roman Reigns is. They damn sure wouldn't know Cody Rhodes. There is no mainstream appeal in today's wrestling. 1.4% of all Netflix subscribers bothered checking out the premiere of Raw. 98.6% said nah I'm good. Tell me who and where are all these stars WWE is producing?
>>16710626>DDPLiterally Bischoff's buddy>GoldbergThey booked a muscle guy with Austin's look to win every match>Booker TWas a last resort, did you see what had to happen for him to become relevant? They kept kneecapping them with dumb shit like "You can't use the letter T or your theme music, G.I Bro" until Russo dunked on Hogan>ReyEven though he was popular he was stuck as a curtain jerkin cruiserweight, just like the rest of them>EddieHe never got a chance to be a star in WCW, the biggest things he did was a worked-shoot promo and LWO
>>16710724its pipped in audio. no one knows who that loser jewish faggot is
>>16710734>its pipped in audioBut enough about New Day's heel turn
>>16710706Who mentioned Roman? Me or you? You’re missing the point.
>>16710723I love it when dronies talk about something they clearly never watched. Not enough bracelets for ya?>>16710727Cena is literally more known for a radio prank call than his WWE career.>>16710734>WWE "pipped" in audio to cheer for their competition's talentOPig, there's functionally no difference between legitimate retardation and pretending.
>>16710736nah, the new day stuff isn't pipped in, people just hate black faggots
>>16710673That "record-setting TV renewal deal" is getting canceled because AEW's viewership keeps plummeting, sadly. Did you really think WBD would accept giving AEW more money for worse performance? That they'd be fine with a negative return on investment? Imagine your boss gives you a raise and then you do a worse job and it only gets worse by the day. Of course he's firing your ass lmao
>>16710738no one knows who manlet jew faggot is. he is like 5'5" no one likes him
>>16710742Not only are the boos piped in but they also splice in crowd reactions that aren't even happening at that moment
>>16710737No he's not. WWE has spent over a decade blowing him and he's still a nobody IRL.>>16710745>the deal is getting cancelled>source: the ramblings I smeared over my walls in fecesnew cope just dropped>Imagine your boss gives you a raise and then you do a worse job and it only gets worse by the day.Explains why Lachlan cancelled Smackdown.
>>16710745Cope and Jericho's face off still got a holy shit chant. Blow me bitch
>>16710748OPig it's not healthy to be this mad over trivial matters.>>16710749kek what SLOP
>>16710738>Cena is literally more known for a radio prank call than his WWE career.The meme video has about 50 million views and is popular because people know John Cena and WWE. WWE's 2nd biggest video on youtube features Cena and has 250 million views.
>>16710745>Imagine your boss gives you a raise and then you do a worse job and it only gets worse by the day.Why imagine?
>>16710609>Why was the WCW able to create starswhy were indians allowed to start watching wrestling? and why do they all love WWE?
>>16710626>DDPNever a star>GoldbergFlopped his first run until WWE taught him how to be a star his second>Booker T/Rey/EddieSame as Goldberg, only their first runs in WWE taught them
>>16710759>and is popular because people know John Cena and WWEThat's not necessarily true. Not to say Cena isn't hugely popular too but that meme caught on completely independently of Cena's popularity
>>16710759>250 million views.And I'd wager the majority of those come from the Land of 5 Rivers ser.
>>16710759>250 million viewsRaw on Netflix could never
>>16710766an hero
aew makes stars which is why the crowd popped huge for the penta promo Monday
>>16710749take your meds
>>16710757you must be mjf if you are seething this hard over Page being a bigger draw
>>16710762tony is literally indian
>>16710751>n-no trust me, AEW isn't getting canceled!>WBD just loves how they're giving AEW more money to do a worse job!>they'll definitely keep paying AEW to do worse and worse! They're very happy about giving Tony a raise to deliver less viewers!>I'm not delusional!lel>Explains why Lachlan cancelled Smackdown.Correct and it also explains why Zaslav is cancelling AEW.
>>16710767It prominently features John Cena's name, theme, and mentions of WWE and promotes a ppv in the style WWE would often do. Including mentions of slams and wrestling moves. This meme would not have taken off if no one knew what the fuck any of that was
>>16710784nah, penta is famous for beating women on that spy kids show on netflix
>>16710751I literally didn’t name Roman Reigns once so…
>>16710792>>WBD just loves how they're giving AEW more money to do a worse job!I'm sure netflix is gald they're giving WWE orders of magnitude more money than the fucking CW to job to NXT>Correct and it also explains why Zaslav is cancelling AEW.Based Zaslav just renewed AEW, actually.
>>16710784Oh shit. Egods what's our comeback?
>>16710794>It prominently features John Cena's name, theme, and mentions of WWE and promotes a ppvOkay? And? It doesn't mean everyone knew of him and saw all of his matches let alone one before they saw that meme
>>16710803>4.9 milly is jobbing to NXT?
>>16710795>on that spy kids show on netflixDamn and that'll still be the most popular show on Netflix he'll be on
>>16710814664k lilbro
>>16710803>I'm sure netflix is galdGMS. And yeah, Raw was their #1 show for Monday and they released a press release bragging about its viewership so I'm pretty sure they're glad about the value it's delivering for them.>Based Zaslav just renewed AEW, actually.And Based Zaslav will also cancel it. He's waiting for AEW's viewership to start climbing back up like Tony said it would but that's not happening. It just keeps sinking lower. Kek, Tony probably told the Zaszmeister that ratings would skyrocket once Kenny came back but it did fucking nothing.
>>16710820>>167108154.9 milly, lil tranni boi
>>167107922 more weeks>>16710799go back>>16710815KEK BTFO
>>16710789SEE: >>16710787
>>16710837>they released a press release bragging about its viewershiptwo days later lmao, i know you don't watch real sports but that's not what they do when they want to "brag" about a live event>And Based Zaslav will also cancel itjust like he wasn't going to renew it, huh fatso? anything else you want to be wrong about tonight?
>>16710837*Netflix put out damage control days later to spin the debut as something other than an utter bomb>it will be cancelled for sure, 2 more weeksPlease get help.>>16710784They didn't like this one.
The trannies live in their own world. They thought wheeler yuta was a star after a tv match with dean. They have no perspective outside their narrow little flea circus.
>>16710609They have MJF who is good on the mic problem is he's a midget Jew and i cant take him seriouslyespecially when he says so much gay shit on twitter he comes off like such a massive fag which I'm sure he is
>>16710864>e-drones are still mad about 1 Rampage match from 3 years agoMakes sense. All these years later and WWE still hasn't gotten anybody under 30 over.>>16710872Liv sucked him
>>16710855>Netflix normally doesn't make press releases bragging about viewership>they only do it on special occasions>they release one bragging about Raw's viewership>UH WELL THAT PRESS RELEASE TOOK TWO DAYS TO COME UP SO IT DOESN'T COUNTrumao>anything else you want to be wrong about tonight?If I wanted to be wrong about something I'd say you weigh under 500 lbs
>>16710845>According to Forbes, "Spy Kids: Armageddon" debuted at number two on Netflix's U.S. and global top 10 lists, with over 11 million households viewed within the first four days of its releaseGet shit on dronie
>>16710859>ha ha Tony makes stars for WWEIs that really the point you were going for?
>>16710766>Flopped his first run until WWE taught him how to be a star his secondeven the most severe bischoff derangement syndrome sufferers don't believe this
>>16710883I know e-drones don't get how technology works, but any dumbshit livestreaming themselves on their phone immediately knows exactly how many people are watching. Netflix & WWE taking DAYS to release their cooked metrics says it all.>>16710889What do you think OP is about, dimwit?>>16710884kek BURIED
>>16710889>It's okay when WWE signs AEW rejects
>>16710849>replying to your own post
this tranny is a-BOILIN tonight boys lmaooo
>>16710883they weren't going to release shit until Samba TV fucking cooked them you absolute retard. Netflix knew exactly how many people watched Raw the minute it ended, just like they did with the NFL. Also, sorry you weigh 500 lbs.
>>16710900>replying to your own postHave a pity (You) lilbruh. Maybe you'll make it with the wolves someday.
>>16710910This. It's also why between all of the numbers Netflix did put out in their press release they never touched on the number of US live viewers alone. Which is the one stat Samba TV did report. Netflix carefully curated numbers across two days in order for things to not look entirely embarrassing. Numbers they had at their fingertips the exact moment they happened
>>16710780Someone has to say the truth >>16710891He flopped horribly, to the point his legacy was completely exposed if he never actually became successful in WWE.
>>16710872>They have MJF who is good on the micno he isn't
>>16710940He is. He can be at least. When he actually has substance. His delivery is always good but a lot of his content is dogshit. Especially if he's not in any sort of rivalry and he's just hamming it up to the crowd. Some of the worst and most generic wrestling insults possible. Oh wow you're all fat and poor virgins. That's /pw/ level of shit. Give him a feud with some depth that isn't Adam Cole though and he can do good things
>>16710916its very easy to fake that, lil troon
>>16710920raw did 2.9 milly households in the US
>>16710947he is ricochet level bad and ugly
>>16710949So by your logic if you just call someone out as replying to themselves it automatically means they were and there's no way to defend it? In that case why are you replying to yourself?
>>16710956wow real interesting, got the quarters?
>>16710956That 2.6m that Raw did was for live AND same day viewers in the US. Go back and re-read the release. Like I said very carefully curated. That's everyone who watched it after it had already aired in addition to the live viewers. So there's a very real chance the 664k that was reported as the number of people who watched it live from 8-11pm in the US could be true
>>16710959Cool man
>>16710969huh
>>16710979got the quarters? surely netflix provided them, if the numbers are legit right?
>>16710960I'm not. I clearly replied to you because you are replying to me
>>16710987i was saying that what this anon explained >>16710969 actually holds some water
>>16710991I'm replying to myself again here saying I replied to you replying as me
>>16710993my bad
>>16711000you're good homie <3
>>16710969Samba only tracks smart TVs from a handful of models, which doesn't include top US brands Samsung, LG or Vizio. It also doesn't track laptop, tablet, PC or cell phone playsAre you saying with a straight face that you believe 0 fans watched WWE Raw on an LG TV, Samsung TV, Vizio TV, Laptop, Cell phone, Tablet and PC - combined? 0 total viewers from all those sources that Samba doesn't track?
>>16710687It’s only 3 people who are saying that
>>16711034it's well known that every single model of TV ships with a nielsen box. when you see "664k people viewed a show" normally, it's because literally 664k people were registered viewing a show on a nielsen box.
>>16710894I know you're a faggot and suck dick for cheeseburgers but the viewership data is not for you and never has been. Priority #1 is selling ad space, not dunking on fat faggot IWC smarks like you. To that end, they don't need to rush out numbers and make them public, the priority is getting advertisers lined up for the next show. The numbers will be used to make MONEY, not to appease queen ass dicksuckers like you.
>>16710813It's the whole reason the thing is as funny as it is
>>16711045bro you sound hella closeted
>>16711044Zero parts of this post are true. And we are talking about Samba TV, not Nielsen
>>16711050>You called me a faggot, that makes you a faggot lelAre you 10 years old?If you're responding at all, then you're retarded enough to push the 664k hoax. But you're also too much of a bitch to actually defend it, so you troll instead
>>16711063no i called you a faggot cause you sounded like a faggot>>16711057>samba doesn't track them because they don't ship a box with every device like nielsen does, because numbers only correspond to exact devices
>>16710612OP must be a Bret mark
>>16711014you are obviously a gay aew fanboy seething about how page outdraws gayew because gayew can't make stars
>>16711068Are you completely fucking retarded? Even if we lived in the fantasy land where every single TV somehow included Samba and/or Nielsen, that still wouldn't cover every other deviceAre you arguing that laptop, PC, tablet and phone combined for 0 viewers? Just say it and stop beating around the faggot bush, you bitch ass bitch. Stop the retard games.
>>16711092this fat faggot is boilin
this thread sure got the gayEW cord chirpin
>>16711123Found their kryptonite. Afraid so.
>>16711070Everyone should be a Bret mark. It's all the Shawn marks that are ruining the business.
>>16710660>These are all names that if you moved them over to WWE tomorrow could be top featured acts on the main roster immediately
>>16710609Because they aren’t actually making stars. Tony isn’t interested in any of the people coming out of the training programs they have been associated with like Nightmare Factory because his autism tells him unless they’re an indie darling shitter they aren’t worth having on his toybox fed.
>>16711047No it isn't. It's because it pisses the woman off so much. Do you really think that specific bit became so popular because John Cena's theme is just that gosh darn funny?
>>16712718>VinceHe is a lolcow true