Top 10 greatest wrestlers of all time
>>16748666>Mayubased
>>16748666Ya gotta love the Mayuster!
>>16748666Misawa vs Tsuruta 1990https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58x8VgWCdYo
>>16748666Manami Toyota vs Akira Hokuto '95https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzD_QyYB45s
>>16748666Misawa/Kobashi 2003https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkx3fe
>>16748666Trannies not voting roman or cena?
>>16748678>>16748684Mayu Iwatani vs Io Shiraihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A85LEsVyMXM
>>16748834If they put on matches as good as the ones these folks do I'm sure they'd be up there
>>16748666>#1>isn't Hoganstopped reading there, list invalidated
Gunther vs Ilja Dragunovhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I0HuxA6mC8
Where's Ospreay? I thought he was the GOAT?
>>16748666The actual greatest wrestler all time is Kurt Angle
>>16748859>>16748873>>16748890kek, seeing actual wrestlers make edrones seethe so hard
Kawada/Misawa '94https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdAVWuR7x5w
>>16748906>Kurt Angle>edroneKurt Angle's best work was in TNA
>>16748928>>16748890Cagematch loves Kurt Angle, it's not really a platform for ranking people.
>>16748906I'm not an E-drone, retard. Hogan is objectively the GOAT and any list that doesn't start with him isn't worth reading.
>>16748980Kek, overall I agree to some extent. I love Hogan. As an overall performer Hogan mogs all. He had five moves but they were five moves you wanted to see and he did them when you wanted to see them. He got over through promos and put WCW over in its war against WWE.But the list isn't ranking that. It's ranking ring work. Compare one of Hogan's best matches to any of Misawa's best matches and there's no comparison from an in-ring standpoint.Hulk Hogan vs Stan Hansen https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kb3m
Okada vs Shibata 2017:https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x92q0bw
Obviously retard bait list but darn I really miss Kenta. Did he go back to NOAH after WWE? Injuries derailed something great :(
>>16748666>Buncha sushi names>Not even InokiWhere is the Hulkmeister?
>>16749167>Anything that isn't WWE isn't real wrestlingepedos are fucking hilarious
>>16749179It’s a bait thread, tranny OP’s billionth time reposting it. Xe doesn’t actually believe in that ranking nor even know all the names in that list.
>>16749209Cope harder efag
Tsuruta vs Tenryu '89https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsjI2kATlQ
>>16749180>>16749229I don’t have promotion loyalty but you may be insane. Closest I got was with Nintendo fandom when I was 11. My favorite wrestler was never in WWE. How many puro shows have you been to? I’ve gone to dozens, on top of TNA, NWA and WWE shows.
>>16749247>i've never heard of these wrestlers so it's the list that must be wrong!That's what you sound like bro
>>16749266>>i've never heard of these wrestlersSpeak for yourself
>>16749269I've posted fucking matches from these people all throughout the thread.You literally just have to watch any of the links to see that the list is pretty fucking valid.
>>16748666So what changed since 2016?
>>16749274Workrate means nothing when no one knows who is wrestling, let alone watched them.
>>16749287>Only America counts!!1!Ah. You're one of those.
>>16748666Hulk HoganSteve AustinRandy SavageThe RockBret HartKurt AngleJohn CenaShawn Michaels AJ StylesRoman Reigns
>>16749285Smarks
>>16749285People started taking Dave's opinion seriously instead of clowning on him like they had always done up to that point. Whenever he started dickriding Omega, everything changed
>>16749287>it's doesn't matter how entertaining or good they are, all that matters is how many people saw them and how much money they put in the pockets of the company's ownersyeah, don't pretend you're not a total edrone buddy
>>16749290>Only America counts!!1!Correct, yes.
>>16749309Thank you for confirming your absolute retardism, etard.
>>16749290The guy you were originally talking to here. It's a fact that the most iconic wrestlers are American wrestlers, so not including them is not even a bias, it's pure a mental illness. I'm not saying Japan doesn't have iconic wrestlers, but no one who ever touched a titty knows any of those sushi restaurant items in the OP. The average casual wrestling fan would recognize Shinsuke and Asuka, or Muta and Inoki if you wanna mention actual Japanese icons, but no one knows any of the names on that OP list.
My favorite womens wrestler was Hikaru Shida. In Osaka I had her sign my shirt and she hugged me. Great show. AEW just sucks dude. Once you realize no fans from any promotion like what AEW has done, how it has operated… I think maybe your dissonance will be shattered and you an hero.
>>16749317The wrestlers that did the most to further the wrestling business and attract the most attention should be considered the best since wrestling is a carny business first and foremost The fact that Inoki isn't on the list is retarded. Has nothing to do with "the fed"
>>16749346Hogaru Shita is your favorite wrestler? What the hell is wrong with you?
>>16749290Hulk Hogan is global, not just for Americans.
>>16749352She wasn’t fat back then
>>16749345You're imposing an Americentric view to a German website.Just because you or *American* casuals have never heard of certain individuals doesn't mean they weren't fucking great.And for the record, your average casual in Japan absolutely knows those names. There's a big, broad world outside the US and knowing about it doesn't make someone a geek or virgin.
>>16749358>There's a big, broad world outside the USand it's all equally irrelevant
>>16749348Tajiri is more well known than most of that list if we are honest. Yokozuna the best Japanese wrestler of all time wasn’t even Japanese.
>>16749348You act as though that's a list that someone put together.It's averages based on hundreds of people voting to rate wrestlers. That's it. No one "agreed" that these would be the best -- they're just the ones that rise to the top when you take a bunch of people voting on wrestlers.You guys take shit way too fucking seriously when it doesn't come out in favor of what you know. And you have the absolute balls to call others geeks.
>>16749345>Shinsuke and Asuka, or Muta and InokiThey never had a 5 stars match.
>>16749401I think the bigger issue with a guy like Inoki is that he wrestled an older style, even older than what we saw in the 80s and 90s.Wrestling evolved and became better in those decades. He was from a different time. He had great matches for the time he wrestled but it's hard to say that he had as many exciting matches as Misawa.The list isn't rating popularity. It's just averages of hundreds of people rating wrestlers from a traditional, non-sports entertainment perspective. And there are a *ton* of very highly rated WWE superstars there.The part I really don't get is why, whenever anyone so much as implies that there might be great wrestling outside WWE, WWE fans absolutely come out of the rafters to shut it down without even knowing what they're talking about. WWE fans are the absolute thinnest skinned people. It's an absolute cult.
>>16748666>The greatest wrestlers of all time are... Ching Chong and Bing BongSmarks believe this too is the sad part
>>16749179>>16749457Racism is cringe
>>16749463racism website newfag
>>16749428The opposite happened here faggot. Itt I even mentioned how much I love Japanese wrestling while being called an edrone, probably by you.
>>16748666>Kobashi9.5>Misawa9.5>Kawada9>Mayu6>Toyota7.5>Hokuto9>Jumbo9>Okada6.5>Tanahashi7>Gunther6.5
>>16749348It's a list of averages taken from hundreds of people ranking traditional in-ring wrestling ability. That's it. There's no room for "carny" factor.WWE fans get so worked up about Cagematch despite the fact that WWE wrestlers are really fucking highly regarded on that site.I said it before and I'll say it again: WWE fans have the thinnest fucking skin out of all wrestling fans. It's all that many of them known so if anyone breathes a hint of criticism they take it as a personal insult and have to pile on to stamp out the heresy. Meanwhile, they defend it with the stupidest talking points imaginable -- "it's the most popular" and "it's what most people know" has absolutely no bearing on "is it actually consistently the most entertaining from a traditional (read: non sports-entertainment) perspective."Anyone criticizes the precious e and you guys just have to pile on and bully them into submission. You can't let the slight stand. No other wrestling fans are like this. And afterwards you play the victims and accuse others of being overly invested in things.
>>16749486kek, you're absolutely fuming over here.
>>1674953199.99 percent of wrestling fans have no idea what cage match is nor do they care.
>>16749545And why do I give a fuck about that?Again. You guys have the dumbest fucking talking points.
>>16749545If no one cares, why do you care enough to address it.Thin fucking skin, like I said. I rest my case.
>>16749558>>16749572You just raged so hard you posted twice about it. Maybe you need to ask why the thread was made if that’s your issue, cage match it isn’t something I ever think about but here you made a thread.
>>16748666>Japan>Japan>JapanWay to invalidate your list
>>16748834cagematch is just smarks who hate wwe>>16748666>mayu above IYOthe only way you can make that argument and not be biased is to say since mayu is in stardom her opponents are higher quality
>>16749604"You made a short addition to your original short point" isn't the epic own you think it is bro.And I didn't make the thread. I just saw it as an opportunity to share some matches because, you know, wrestling board but you guys just have to shit on everything you're not familiar with.The thinnest of skins.
>>16748666I fucking hate Smarks so much its unreal
>>16749618Just calm down and take a walk dude.
>>16748666I wouldn't even use that shitlist to wipe my ass with
>>16749639I am calm.You're the one worked up about a list you yourself admit no one gives a shit about.Why does it bother you so much? It's unimportant. Thin skins and kings of projection.
>the rock stone cold and hogan are the best wrestlers ever>Nah bro it's totally Mitsubishi Honda and Yamaha Hyundai
>>16749672See >>16749463
>>16749672>Only le Jewnited States of Pissmerica matterThis is why no one takes you and your mutilated cock seriously, shitskin muttoid.
>>16749880>he says, using the American internet, posting on the American imageboard, about the sport that got to Japan only because of American influencebeggin ya piggiEUs to take the L and move on
>>16748666They should really put the men and women on separate lists.Like Mayu's good but c'mon now.
>>16748873He's like #70 surprisingly. I think he's so overwanked by meltzer smarkdom it wraps back around to a lot of smark fags spiting him.
Where’s the black wrestlers? Cage match is a racist website
>>16748666Where's Honda Toyota or Hyundai Samsung?
>>16748666None of these nips ever drew a dime
>joshipedos are the most neckbearded loser outlier in wrestling >all of them vote their perfect cupcakes with 9s and 10s>no normal wrestling fan is ever going to start watching that horseshit just to prove joshipedos wrong>"Oh well I guess someone called Mayu Iwatani is the perfect wrestler then"Holy shit cagematch is ridiculous
>>16750678Mayu is one of my favorites working today and I'm admittedly one of the first to post Cagematch ratings as a bit of a jab (I'm not OP here though) but, yes, she's somewhat overrated.Great selling and storytelling but there's no one today who can have matches like the old timers because the old timers operated in an environment that was inherently violent and tense to encourage more shooting in matches.Cagematch is shit for ranking people. Anyone who approaches it in that manner is doing it wrong. But if a wrestler or match has a high rating, it's probably really worth checking out. I've discovered lots of great stuff through there.
>>16750728Not only that but if you give them a bad score you get banned.
>>16750728If it's just joshi fans simping for their precious waifus, why is Marigold ranked so relatively low
>>16750728I checked out some joshi from all the raving before and some of the women's wrestling in japan is legit impressive and utterly BTFO's any western women's wrestling i've seen. But it's, unsurprisingly, pretty much all waifufags getting way into it.
>>16750728Also, why does something that matters so little obviously get under your skin this hard?Edrones have the thinnest skin out of anyone on these boards, fullstop.
Why didn't Akira Taue come out?
>want to see an edrone melty? Just post Cagematch ratings; they'll fume harder than a thousand suns over something they themselves say doesn't matter at allWorks like a charm every time, fucking hilarious.
>>16748666honestly cagematch smarks get a bad reputation. these are all good wrestlers.do you guys really get upset that they aren't putting like hogan and cena and roman in the top 10? these guys mostly judge based off ring work and then promo ability, they don't care about who was the biggest draw, they judge in a vacuum.they take themselves too seriously sometimes. not that long ago, when big boom AJ made his AEW debut, he got so many 10s that he rocketed to the #1 spot on the rankings, so they disabled ratings on his page with a gay stern reprimand about it.i don't have an account and rate things but i think it's interesting to see who rises and who falls. a few months ago, thesz was #10 but he's fallen to 12. danielson and gunther now trade for that spot. angle is also going up, while meiko goes down.
Of course German gonna vote for Japanese and Austrian.
>>16748666Based Gunther
>>16748980you say "any list" like there's multiple possibly valid lists in your mind, but you're clearly a mark that would only agree with a list solely based off of money made so you can roleplay in your mind as one of the boys, and in that case there would only be one list.
>>167508118/10 is the highest rating you should be able to give to women wrestlers. 7/10 for joshi because they're so fucking ugly to boot
>>16750911NTAYRT, but what makes a good wrestler is how good they are at being a carny.Hogan, Jarret, Cody, and Inoki have to be on the shortlist with Flair near the cutoff. You gotta work the marks, the smarks, the boys, and the booker to be a real GOAT and that's a shoot - HH
>>16750981by this reasoning, heyman would be in the top 10 and he's not even a wrestler. antismarks have gone too far.
>>16751013Heyman is one of the greatest managers to ever exist yes
>>16751013well... >>16749285
Some GOAT matches in this thread
>>16748666>no Inoki
>>16754308what u slidin?
>>16748666>GuntherFuck is this shitter ever overrated. He looks autistic. Like Forrest Gump combined with Frankenstein
>>16749285>Paul is still great>Shawn became a backstage talent that books what he wants to (basically a vince that is way more into over-the-top TV drama)>Jushin retired>Taker retired + people realized he had some stinkers>Eddie's dead and wrestlers have figuratively milked his corpse >Kenta is dead + more people got access to his matches, discovered him, meaning he would only increase >AEW>Did a Finn Balor where he just wants to collect a paycheck >dead, see Kenta>barely moved, was overrated even back then
>>16748666If a wrestler can’t draw dimes, then it ain’t a wrestler but a gay gymnast (even if it is a woman).
There being over a 100 people who voted for Toyota and not Hokuto is really interesting. Was there some Toyota bootleg that sold well in the last 10 years?Also that that extra 400 people who voted for Okada and Gunther never thought to check out anyone else on the list. I say it all the time, cage match is a great database, which only makes its user base complete lack of curiosity of wrestling history so troubling.
>>16754971It's a great resource. Not good for ranking stuff. But like you said, great for finding new stuff to check out or what's widely regarded to be people's best matches.The lack of curiosity thing you point out is interesting as well. And as much as I love Mayu, I'm not sure she belongs above either of those (and I'd imagine she'd say much the same thing).
>>16755014I found a house show my Grandpa took me to when I was a kid, and all I remembered about it was Hogan was there and I got a WWF magazine with Flair on the cover.
>>16749295AustinMachEddie MankindArnDustyKurtFlairDDPBig Poppa PumpThis is the best wrestlers to ever do it, your opinion is uneducated shit if you disagree.
>>16754773None of those guys wrestle modern style. In face Gunter wrestles closer to Kobashi, Kawada, Tsuruta etc. You don't know wrestling if you don't know those names. And they drew money which for some reason marks care about now.
