Who do you think he would have saved from Triple cuck’s bullshit if he stuck around the entire 00s?
>>16764795the fans mostly
>>16764800FPBP
He would have become one of the guys you complain about as holding a top spot too long and always being on top
>>16764806Rock always knew the audience's pulse, and changed his character's direction accordingly.>Fans chanted Die Rocky Die, Maivia joins The Nation of Domination>Fans cheered for him, turned face after SS98>Swerved the fans, turned Corporate Champion in late 98>Fans cheered, turned People's Champion in 1999>Fans booed at SS2002, turned Hollywood Heel Rock was the most selfless FOTC. Zoomiefags won't understand
BookerShelton (yes, even with that win over Haitch)MVPKofi probably would have been saved from “STUPID” and his first run where he was actually showing intensity wouldn’t have been immediately halted
Who did Triple H even bury in the 2000s who was actually worthwhile at the time?Booker wasn't ready to be WHCJericho was never a real drawAngle was so over it didn't matter what he didRandy in 04 wasn't readyGoldberg's aura was gone before he was in WWESteiner was the shitsRVD was always midcard at bestCody/Ted were nowhere near starsSpirit Squad were disposableOther than perhaps Orton who he should have put over at mania 25 instead of the ppv a month later, he put over the people who mattered. Taker, Hogan, Batista, Cena.
>>16764818Cornette and Patterson nagged Vince into turning Rock heel and Cornette came up with NoDThey faked a short face run to do another heel turn because Vince didn't want two top faces while he was still running Austin99 to 00 tides were already starting to change, first Austin's drawing power hit a plateau then started to drop, then Rock as a face started to drop. By 2001 they were headed into a descent so Vince started making changesRock Hogan double-turn was a good move, if Rock had any say then I commend that, same as Final Boss is his best version in my opinion.Regardless, the bubble burst on wrestling by the time Rock left and smarks had more influence on crowd reactions so anyone who stuck around was going to be turned on or have fans complain they put too many people over and it lost meaning, then if said guy starts winning again they turn on him after he gets a big winHHH was a smark favorite up until the narrative about Evolution 15 min promos gained prominence
>>16764845>Booker wasn't ready to be WHCStopped reading
>>16764863He literally wasn't. He was over because he was entertaining as fodder for Austin and Rock and was comedic with Goldust.
>>16764845I would have liked a decent run with kane or big show instead of endless tag matches.
>>16764993It was Vince who moved the company into the direction of the top star holding down shows with long promos and draw out content across the year. It seems to be his response to the AE hotshotting everything and burning out. He instead slowed everything down and trickled in big moments over 12 months to create a steady, sustainable system focused on content creation.
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>>16764795>When you realize that Haitch buried everyone that Rock put over when he was leaving>Booker T>Hurricane>Goldberg>Eugene>>16764877He literally came into the WWE as world champion. Even then, the 20 second pin was unnecessary.
>>16765100All Vince's call
>>16764856zoomiefag detected, opinion rejected
>>16764845>Jericho not a real drawAnd who's fault is it that made him go down the card after his debut?>RandyIf he's not ready, why give him the title and then feed him to Triple H? Why did they make him job to Triple H again in 2009?>SteinerHe was injured. Why didn't they let him heal? Steiner's TNA run was iconic.>RVDHe was over.>Spirit SquadPretty sure they were building the leader to be main event level before Cena killed him. Was it Kenny Dykstra?>Booker TWas over. He deserved the win.You forget Kane. But he probably wanted to lose the mask so I can let that slide. I can blame Shane for burying him since he was a geniune monster before they make him align with Eric
>>16765243>>Jericho not a real draw>And who's fault is it that made him go down the card after his debut?Himself. He was an overated midget who was never as big enough to main event.>>Randy>If he's not ready, why give him the title and then feed him to Triple H? Why did they make him job to Triple H again in 2009?Because they wanted the belt off of that anti draw Benoit and wanted to experiment with Randy. He wasn't ready. I agree about him jobbing to Triple H in 09 though. I think he should have Hunter at Mania>>Steiner>He was injured. Why didn't they let him heal? Steiner's TNA run was iconic.And he was the shits in WWE>>RVD>He was over.So was Bryan, Guerrero, Kofi, Benoit it doesn't mean they should main event>>Spirit Squad>Pretty sure they were building the leader to be main event level before Cena killed him. Was it Kenny Dykstra?Cena was right. >>Booker T>Was over. He deserved the win.'Deserved' doesn't mean shit in any business. You either can make money or you can't.
>>16764845based and having a basic understanding of business pilled.
>>16765337LmaoJericho was so over that Triple H had to politicked him out of the main event. Haitch was threatened by a midget.Steiner was the shits because he was never given a chance after wrestling injured.And Dykstra was never even given a chance.>putting a shitter like Kofi next to Bryan and Guerrero>make moneyYeah, like Haitch did right? KWAB
>>16764795Booker. Maybe Jericho.
>>16765373Being over does not equate to being a big enough draw to make money, anon.>make money>Yeah, like Haitch did right? KWABMy response may surprise you bro, but no - Triple H was NEVER the guy who drew money. He was the guy who WORKED with the guy who drew the money. Hence why he buried people who weren't worth shit at a main event level, but actually put over the real stars who were.
>>16764795It wouldn't have mattered. Creative was Vince/Shane/Russo/Ferrara. When Russo/Ferrara left, Gaytch wormed his way into Vince's ear and the rest is history.If Russo stays, Gaytch falls back to midcard after his reign flopped, Test, Show, and Jericho get pushed instead, Steph doesn't take over creative, and Austin/Rock don't bail as soon as they did because Steph/Heyman don't rise to power with Shane/Russo/Ferrara still in charge.
>>16764795If Rock then had the pull of Rock now there would never have been the Triple H reign of terror to start with.
>>16765421In his reign of terror, the only ones who went over are Taker and Hogan. The wrestlers Haitch can't outpolitick.Batista was at the end of his Heel run.Is there a list of people he put over that isn't an established star that he can't outpolitick? The only one I can remember is Benoit.
>>16765446Rock had pull but used it sparingly. Bret and Farooq protected him when Shawn and Kwabber were trying to get him fired. And he did the same for Jericho and Show when Gaytch and Kwabber were trying to get them fired.
>>16765463He tried to pull the same shit at WM22 with Cena that he did with Orton and Rock.>I'll win at WM and they'll win the next month it will totally have the same impact but the fans won't see it comingHe almost got his win back at WM23 but his quad betrayed him. He never got it so he spent the next few years having random meaningless matches to beat Cena desperately trying to force himself as the face of the company he never was.Even with Batista he was so desperate to get that win back.
>>16765522Yeah but Cena was after the reign of terror.I'm just glad Haitch's reign of terror didn't last a decade like Cena's. At least with Haitch, you could watch Smackdown.
>>16764845You forgot when HHH beat up the Rock the week before he lost so they could give credit to him even though they weren't feuding. Why could HHH only make 1 star? Flair and Foley have both made guy after guy after guy, even when they went over, but HHH could only make Batista?
>>16765522Desperate? Losing to Batista felt like his idea. Then when Batista decided to call it a career, he asked HHH to retire him and he did. It isn't like Hulk Hogan asking Eric Bischoff to hire Warrior and Yokozuna to have the last win over them.
>>16765486Who the fuck is "Kwabber" supposed to be? You're just babbling nonsense. Get off the internet and get a real hobby, man. You're so /pw/-pilled it's impossible to understand what the fuck you're even talking about.
>>16765463>In his reign of terror, the only ones who went over are Taker and Hogan. The wrestlers Haitch can't outpolitick.It's because they were bigger stars than him, politics had little to do with it. Logically why would it even make sense to bury Hogan and Taker especially when the company was missing Rock and Austin at the time? Of course he wouldn't bury them.>Batista was at the end of his Heel run.And he still put him over because he was a star. He went on to be a success.>Is there a list of people he put over that isn't an established star that he can't outpolitick? The only one I can remember is Benoit.Lol none, because they weren't good enough or weren't ready.Nobody Shelton, Midcard Jericho, Midcard Booker, Midcard RVD, Midcard Regal, Hasbeen Nash, Jobber Tajiri, Hasbeen Shawn, Hasbeen Goldberg, Hasbeen Steiner, Not Ready Randy.There was so many people who just weren't good choices to push in the main event and use Triple H to help them. Even Benoit you mentioned was a mistake in hindsight and I say this as a huge Benoit mark who was happy for him.I will concede though, I did forget about Kane. I do think that was really badly handled. However he was already a star years prior to that awful unmasking shit. Losing to Triple H wasn't really the main reason why it was bad.>Even with Batista he was so desperate to get that win back.That was Batista's last match whilst they still thought Triple H had matches left in him before his heart KWAB'd itself.
>>16765657>Why could HHH only make 1 star? Flair and Foley have both made guy after guy after guy, even when they went over, but HHH could only make Batista?Who else was there? Mark Jindrack? Snitsky? 02-04 WWE was a wasteland of talent.
>>16765522>He tried to pull the same shit at WM22 with Cena that he did with Orton and Rock.Nonsense. There's zero evidence he tried to bury Cena and 22 and 23.He jobbed to Cena then he jobbed to Orton at Mania. He even fucking put over Batista and Benoit at the two previous Manias. That's 4 Wrestlemania matches in a row his lost in the early/mid 2000s, two of them he even tapped.
>>16765905>There's zero evidence he tried to bury Cena and 22 and 23.zoomiefag detected, opinion rejected
>>16765919Cope harder tranny, post your source of fuck off. You're probably mad your favorite got wiped out by him at some point.
>>16765960>your favorite got wiped outMy favorite made Gaytch his bitch
>>16764795Not sure but there is no way HHH’s rebel so cool badass babyface smackdown run happens.…Actually maybe it does.Rock probably got the fuck out of dodge BECAUSE Haitch married the bosses daughter. He probably saw the writing on the wall.Now that I think about it, I don’t think he could’ve saved anyone. If Rock stayed fulltime through the 00s he likely would’ve slid down into the midcard by 05-06 and is made to pass whatever main event torch to Orton like what was the original plan. I mean Austin was already beginning to slip from Vince’s favor in the early 00s, I’m sure Haitch would’ve passed word to Vince that Rocky was starting to cool off and one of his boys should start getting that shine (Orton or Batista)
>>16765980>still no sourceThat's what I thought.
>>16765980That's real funny Anon. Real funny. Why don't you tell me more about the time you never wore a jeans jacket over a leather jacket, never listened to Motörhead, never banged the boss' hot daughter and were never called the game, the ultimate ass kicker & the king of kings?
>>16766196>Why don't you tell me more about the time you >never wore a jeans jacket over a leather jacket, done that>never listened to Motörheaddone that too>never banged the boss' hot daughter didn't want to>were never called the gamethat's a gay nickname>the ultimate ass kicker & the king of kings?those nicknames are compensating for tiny peepee
>>16765905>He jobbed to Cena then he jobbed to Orton at Mania.He inserted himself into the title match, made Cena eat the pin, and then won the title in the 4 way elimination match making Cena and Orton look worse.
>>16765689>Who the fuck is "Kwabber" supposed to be?Mr lowest bought WrestleMania everMr 21-0 and never drew a dimeMr worked with the guyMr wannabe pure striker fake tough guyMr fake zombie fake biker bitchMr badd ass boomer dime repellentMr killed the business and buried every younger talent he couldMr disappear for 11 months before demanding another scalpMr vince apologist locker room stooge hypocrite self mark bitchLurk more zoomer. Kwabber is a legend in his own mind.
>>16766341Literally no one calls him Kwabber, retard.
>>16764795Wrestling would have never become mainstream in the 00's if he had never gone to Hollywood in the first place.At least that was what I was promised would happen.
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