BIG DAVE FROM THE TOP ROPE
>>16765488>fake expertsWhy is he projecting?
>AEW is losing moneyCorect>AEW is going out of businessRampslop got cancelled
>>16765488>fake expertsZero (0) self awareness
>>16765488AEW has still not made a profit.
>>16765488You can't refuse this.
>>16765488AEW is going in completely the wrong direction, and I don't see how they can possibly get their momentum back. AEW is objectively failing, and while Tony will be able to keep it going as long as his poor father wants to back it, the bleeding viewership and attendance shows no signs of stopping. The ratings might be good enough for Warner Brothers now, but in three years it might not be.
>>16765524Did a certain fake expert who engages in cuckoldry feed you this?
That guy is right, any time WWE do anything these sad sacks immediately talk about how its over for AEW.
>>16765488kek Dave don't miss
>>16765492>>16765493>>16765519>>16765524you literally just proved him right
>Dave reports the claims of the private owner of aew regarding aew's finances as his lone source>calls himself a journalistkek
But common sense points to AEW losing money every year? They have about 200 wrestlers full-time and per appearance, with over 20 on 7 figure contracts. That alone is over their tv deals, and they run live shows at a loss and items that are limited to 50 or 100 copies are in their top ten merch sales. There is no possible way they are making a profit, and even if the current tv deal did put in them at operating profit they still have to make up for the initial investment and over 5 years of initial losses.
>>16765802> But common sense points to AEW losing money every year?Your headcanon born from your TKDS isn’t common sense, fEdrone.
>>16765802>over 20 on 7 figure contractsyou literally have absolutely no source for this beyond "I want it to be true"
>>16765802>they still have to make up for the initial investment and over 5 years of initial lossesNo, they don't. You've never run a business. I doubt you've ever even held a job.
>>16765802You just don't have access to the same internal memos that dave meltzer has. And he can't post them because the last time he did that people immediately pointed out it was fake and made fun of him
>>16765825Please provide source of wrestlers contracts in AEW.
Dave's on some emotional bitch shit right now
>>16765802sorry you lost the battle against reality, schizo
>>16765851But enough about you
>>16765846blud, you made the fucking claim. the burden of proof is on you.
>>16765872I'm not the guy, you both are claiming to know the contracts but you have the same amount of info.as the guy you're sperging over, well probably less
>>16765700Who in this thread has said they were an expert, fake or otherwise? Im certainly no expert but i have senses, i can SEE the empty building, i can SEE the low ticket sales, i can HEAR the crowd not react.
>>16765802This one got him oinkin>Whistle WhistleHe's a squeelin>Whistle WhistleHe's a oinkin>Whistle WhistleHe's a wheelin
>>16765887wrong>In a declaration from AEW’s Senior Vice President of Business Strategy, Chris Harrington writes that between the dates in question, 290 individuals provided services for AEW as wrestlers or non-wrestling talent under independent contractor agreements and paid those members “more than $60,000,000 in the aggregate,” providing rare insight into AEW’s talent compensation.
>>16765896>Tony signs person>brags that he offered them more money>ratings crater>aewtists say "there's no evidence tony is paying these people 7 figures"Yeah if you don't listen to what tony says or what the talent says sure no evidence
>>16765887>I'm not the guyyou're full of shit>>16765896you're a fat schizo so your cognative faculties are not reliable I'm afraid
dronies are addicted to being wrong, but they don't care. they've never cared about reality, they only care about having their delusions of Big Bad AEW being vanquished confirmed and incubated. they don't care where they get their cope from, they will get it one way or the other.
>>16765922>brags that he offered them more moneythat didn't happen>ratings craterthat also didn't happenyou are a delusional cultist, please seek professional mental health treatment
>>16765816Whuch part is un true? You throw tkds out like a deflection. >>16765834Oh, weve got an expert on buisness now. Are you a fake expert or a real one? How can i discern the diffrence between the two? Also what is your buisness, perhaps id like to use your services.
>>16765918>Hey a quote without a source from an unknown timeLet me guess, 2019 number lol
>>16765928all true I'm afraid
>>16765802>They have about 200 wrestlers full-time and per appearance, with over 20 on 7 figure contracts. That alone is over their tv deals,>they run live shows at a lossYouDon'tKnowThatYour speculation is not reality.
>>16765839The memo with the talent roster costs from discord? That internal memo?
>>16765933I accept your concession, stay defeated retard.
We know from that tax credit they filed for double and nothing last year that they spent two million dollars on salaries for two shows over a weekend
>>16765802Sorry for your faggism
>>16765935>i'll pretend I cant look it upthe battle against reality claims another soldier
>>16765950unfortunately due to PPV bonuses it's impossible to extrapolate any meaningful data from that at all
>>16765954So what 2020 lol?
>>16765954It seems to have claimed your fat ass a long time ago, buddy.
>>16765928>>16765942Khannetty is paying hundreds of millions of dollars every year between salaries, production costs and God knows what else while renting big buildings he can’t fill and watching his tv ratings collapse yoy. Common sense tells you he’s running on the red and no amount of headcanons would refute common sense.
>>16765986turn your monitor on
>>16766001>Khannetty is paying hundreds of millions of dollars every yearAgain, you have literally no source for this number beyond your mental illness riddled brain. Stop posting and go get help.
>>16765488>dave talking about echo chambersSometimes the irony fucking hurts. Also hate how getting a deal suddenly means that the show is a complete success and no other metric matters anymore. Why even talk about ticket sales or ratings? They got a deal for 3 more years, nothing else matters suddenly and they will always be successful because they got this one deal
>>16766030>Why even talk about ticket sales or ratings?Because businesses don't survive on house shows in 2025 and they are on streaming now because TNT/TBS are dying with the rest of cable. Grass may now be touched
>>16765918Oh I get the obsfucation, it's from the kevin Kelly lawsuit so he didn't want to post that. Also the 60 million mentioned is only looking at the independant contractors not factoring in EVPs and stakeholders like Jericho and the bucks and it's also pre okada/ospreay/mone contracts kek.https://wrestlenomics.com/articles/2024/aew-seeks-to-move-kelly-tate-case-to-federal-court-paid-talents-over-60-million-since-2022/
>>16766030>Also hate how getting a deal suddenly means that the show is a complete successwe know, that's why we're laughing at your stupid fat E-drone asses lmao
>>16765974>PPV bonusesno such thing. It isn't 1995 anymore little guy, wrestlers don't get a cut of the gate
piggiEs battling against accepting reality, very sad
>>16766045>not factoring in EVPs and stakeholders like Jericho and the bucks and it's also pre okada/ospreay/mone contracts kek.And you have absolutely no information on how much they';re being paid, which is why everyone with a brain has been telling you to shut the fuck up instead of sperging out and posting your schizo headcanon.
>>16766047>PPV bonuses>no such thingyou're stupid as fuck, stop posting
>>16766058Yeah I'm sure they're getting peanuts lol. >Evil company
>>16766066I accept your full and unconditional surrender, better luck next time.
>>16766016Turning a blind eye on a disaster won’t make it go away, tranny.
>>16766045His only source was a lawsuit with Kevin Kelly lol
>>16765488He’s so far up Tony’s ass he stopped pretending to be neutral and just outright shutting down any rightful criticism about AEW.
>>16766150
>>16766150Many have noticed that
>>16766150Your Dave Derangement Syndrome isn’t a personality
>>16766150Well it's obvious he's been feeding tony storyline and shit so the low ratings get to his egoFragile bodyFragile EgoFraggle Rock
>>16766251GMS
>>16766110>I have no counter-argumentI accept your concession, btw we don't sign our posts here.
>>16766150>>16766165>>16766177>posts exactly one minute aparthmmm
Absolutely embarrassing thread for aewtards. It’s not even funny anymore. They’re just so fucking stupid it makes me sad.
>>16765825>demands sources for aew salaries>doesn't care about Dave's sources for aew profitabilityaewtists, ladies and gentlemen
What's really impressive is that all in was in 2018 and there are anons who have spent every single day since then posting about how much they hate aew
>>16765488There are 40 women wrestlers and 129 male wrestlers currently employed in AEW, which adds up to 169 total full-time wrestlers, how much do you think Tony is shelling out to pay all of them annually?, we already know the biggest stars of the company are already getting paid a million to a few million annually
>>16766313The sad thing? This isn’t actually happening.
>>16765488None of this would be an issue if Dave didn’t feel the need to “fight the trolls”. The more he fights the more he looks like a cheerleader and he’s exposed as being biased . Everyone who follows Dave knows he’s biased but Dave thinks he isn’t .
>>16766294>whataboutismthat's a concession!
>>16766329>we already know the biggest stars of the company are already getting paid a million to a few million annuallyyou don't know shit, actually>>16766332you're literally doing it right now lol
>>16766294the source is the publicly announced deal that earned Tony Khan the title DEALMAKER OF 2024. Choke on it,pig.
>>16766332Two-thirds of the threads on this board at any given moment are anti-aew
>>16765816>>16765825>>16765834Bro responded 3 times in 3 minutes he was so gotten to
>>16766266It’s so typical of you trannies to run away from reality. Too bad that unlike your penis, you cannot chop off AEW’s imminent demise.
>>16766288I’m reading the thread and if anyone is embarrassing themselves here it’s the drones with all their headcanons
>entire thread is rEtards proving Dave correctLMAO bunch of fucking gay mindbroken faggots. I hate drones so much.
Another backfire thread for the vow tranny cord
>>16765802>"By getting right fees that are multiple times higher than we initially had, we put the company on the path to profitability[...]" - Tony Khan>they hated him because he was right
>>16765493is this real? did he really say/write that?
>>16765488telling dave to take the wrestling fig out of his ass again.
>>16766420'd 'o
>>16765488> Dave talking about echo chambers when he participates in the forums you need a paid subscription for lmao. Also, you'd think Dave would like fake experts since he was ready to talk about that "internal WBD memo".
>>16766580Meds
>>16766398many are saying this
>>16765802When they got the TV deal a few months back, Tony did an interview saying the TV deal puts them on the “path to profitability”. He admitted point blank less than two months ago they still haven’t turned a profit. So if the owner of the company is saying it, what the fuck is Dave even arguing about?
Did I get banned I am.pretty sure I posted some retarded shit last night but I don't fully remember. Test.
>>16765488What's his evidence?
>>16766790he's posted it multiple times in the observer
>>16765488He simply doesn’t miss
>>16767988'fraid so
>>16765488but aew IS losing money. where exactly is all the money coming from? certainly not attendance. t-shirt sales? lol IF aew was making money then tony would most certainly tweet about it and show everybody proof to prove all the naysayers wrong
>>16765488Nice novella, however three words:hampig was cancelled
>>16768500Holy fucking COPE
>>16767988A bit of advice to uneducated, jobless, smelly, morbidly obese e-drones:If you come at the king, you best not miss.
>>16768562kirdblt
>>16768538you called. sorry to break it to you but sadly aew hasnt made a profit and never will. but we are all having fun!!
>>16765490Idk I think the guy should be publicly flogged and raped - what a vile creature and he just so happened to worm his way into wrestling
>>16768581Sorry reality broke your brain.
>>16765493>Dave makes a point>E-tard has to deflect
>>16766580>Dave lives in an echo chamberInteresting because the first people to cite Meltzer when he actually corroborates bad news regarding AEW is stinky faggots like you
I'd be here defending AEW on a Friday night if my legs didn't work too
>>16769472Obsessed
>>16765488I will never understand the retards who say AEW die when cockroaches like TNA and GCW are still alive.
>>16769500
>echo chamber>Regularly interact with dave and call him a retard
So is this thread just Rovert freaking out at any negative AEW opinion? Are you on the payroll little pigger?
>>16765488It must kill Dave inside that his idea of a perfect wrestling company is a fucking failure lmao
>>16769735>He didn't refute that he's obsessedConcession accepted.
>>16769735>Anyone makes a thread insulting wwe>Piggies get triggered and have to mention AEWFixing your meme for accuracy
>>16766778Based alcoholic anon
>>16765488aew wrestlers couldnt draw flies to Shit
>>16770521As if WWE's shitters can
>>16770626they collectively draw a decent amount, dunno if anyone is irreplaceable though
The perception is not that Khan was a guy who shook up the industry and made it infinitely better for fans, wrestlers, and even those who have made it their priority to play on the AEW negativity. Many have knocked him while pretending the successful part never existed. There is the constant description of him as a money mark, a term used for a clueless person who spends a lot of money with no chance of being profitable.Of course AEW’s books are largely closed. Khan signed his first TV deal, which only covered television production costs. It was a multi-year deal. While the “it’s not getting even a million viewers” club crowed while showing a total lack of understanding of what are strong numbers on cable, that first contract was torn up after three months and a paying deal was put in. That deal may have saved the company, given two months later we were in a pandemic and AEW couldn’t even run traditional television tapings and would have had no revenue coming in.Whether they could have survived the pandemic under the old deal is a question, but in fact, there were points during the pandemic, that the company was profitable due to the new deal. But overall, the belief is the company has yet to turn a profit. In late 2022, the expectation was 2023 would be profitable. Most likely, due to the video game not being a success financially, that didn’t happen. Even after the third deal, for Collision and giving WBD exclusivity on all AEW television (eliminating the streaming shows) and WBD picking up the option for a for a fifth year with a major increase in rights for Dynamite, Khan has not indicated 2024 will turn a profit.
>>16770741We don't use that word here.
>>16770741Fine speech.
>>16770741>Khan signed his first TV deal, which only covered television production costsfuck me they weren't even getting paid. money mark doesn't even do this faggot justice
>>16770915TK has an ocean of money, this doesn't affect his company whatsoever.
>>16769707>TNA and GCWThese two aren't wasting hundreds of millions of dollars every year to run their companies.
Why is Dave so obsessed with the profitability of AEW when they've run at a loss for half a decade now, and could continue that for 100 years?Even by Dave's own admission all the money is coming from the TV contract and not because the product itself is successful or generating merch revenue. Very weird how Dave works himself into a shoot over this and then parades around like it's a big gotcha when he's the only one seething to begin with
>>16771746>wastingShow you degree in business management
>>16771774>Even by Dave's own admission all the money is coming from the TV contract and not because the product itself is successful or generating merch revenueYou are retarded and most likely a shitskin. What do you think the TV contract is if not a company purchasing the product? Good lord your tranniEs are fucking stupid.
>>16771817they only understand numbers when someone announces it to them from the middle of a ring with big graphics on screen
>>16771793Good morning, xirs.
>>16771824and use bright primary colors, it helps hold their chimp-like attention
>>16771887So you admit you know nothing about the subject matter? Got it, thanks e-drone.
>>16771817TV rights contracts are not a reflection of quality or correlation with success. The NBA has a massive media rights deal and is absolutely tanking in every metric possible.
>>16771919>TV rights contracts are not a reflection of quality or correlation with successyou're actually a drooling fucking retard lol
>>16771919And yet they are still valued. If they were truly valueless then these jews would just pull the plug, so why don't they?
>>16771928The NBA by every metric is unsuccessful and in rapid decline, but they recently signed a huge media rights deal. You seem wholly ignorant about the current state of cable television programming and how it's literally impossible for it to continue in its current form for much longer
>>16771950They can't pull the plug because they signed contracts to provide content to cable providers. If they cancel a show or entire channel, they must either replace or buy out that contract, which is often (currently) more expensive than simply buying new content to broadcast.Live television content is the only content that draws advertising interest, so anyone who makes it continually demands higher rights fees, the higher rights fees means the channel owners demand a higher share of the cable revenue, the higher share means the cable bill goes up, the cable bill going up means more people cord cut. And then this entire loop repeated on itself. Cable TV deals are entirely worthless as a valuation or proof of success because they're a mosquito trying to draw the last drops of blood from a corpse. Cable literally will not exist in 10-15 years
>>16771987>the cope has moved from 2 more weeks to 10-15 yearslmao
>>16772006I literally said AEW can run for 100 years never making a penny because Tony clearly doesn't care, and can easily foot the bill.The only reason to care about AEWs profitability is if you think it's a correlation or indication of success which it is not. WWE was constantly getting increasing rights deals when they were leaving arenas half empty and losing fans by the millions
>>16766379>reality>random shit you made up to cope with AEW mindraping you
>>16765802AEW is very profitable. The numbers dont lie.
>>16770741>Of course AEW’s books are largely closed.like i already said IF aew made even a small profit tony would tweet about it because he would be so happy!! but he hasnt and he never will. he has already sunk over 1 billion dollars into this circus sideshow he calls pro wrestling
>>16771817You're shoot crying