I was told AEW killed NJPW
ar Goto is the last stalwart, real ones know
Based Hirooki GOATO drawing the house
>>16783268Thank you, Goto-San.
>>16783268I was told AEW died 4 years ago. Starting to think people are just saying shit>>16783281He is. And that's the actual issue with NJPW. Not that WWE or AEW signed big guys who were leaving anyway. But that they've yet to be able to create a new class of guys like the one they had 10 years ago
>>16783268Should have been the Wrestle Kingdom main event.Why they fucked around with Zack when they had Goto in the wings all this time is beyond me.
>>16783268goto go
>>16783268Goto will put over Uemura when he comes back and he'll become the true Ace, trust the process
>>16783268AEW is the only thing keep NJPW afloat. Without AEW help, NJPW would have died. There is literally ONE guy on this board who enjoys the NJPW AEW console wars and stirs shit up. He is known as the Tsujischizo in /njpw/ generals where he keeps talking to himself. Yes he is mentally ill but we cannot get rid of him. He practically lives on this board. AEW and NJPW lads are friends. There is no beef between us despite the spam of that singular mentally ill schizo.
>>16783293Goto is based and should get the strap.He's the Liao Hua of New Japan
>>16783355actually aew is referred to as "poop dick wrestling" by Japanese wrestling fans (the ones actually in Japan - not you fuckin pathetic weebs). aew is also widely despised in Korea.
>>16783268Based old Samurai coming for the title.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVklObVqDqM
>>16783268>they’re gonna beat 5,300 seats sold so it ain’t that bad!!!Anon I’m begging ya to not be a fucking retard
>>16783471>worked attendance countsbeggin ya to get a clue
>>16783268I think strapping up Goto is shoot best for business. Would make fans happy, he doesn't need it for that long, and his track record would make every defence hard to call.
>>16783471>a 60,000 seat stadium for the yearly Dome show does better than an off-season show in a 5000 seat gymnasiumMan who woulda thought
>>16783471do US feds compare tv ratings to attitude era and say the same thing?
>>16783471sorry lil anon the old japanese salary man is dead
ZSJ experiment has failedStrap up Goto and have him put over the next ACE
>>16783293>>16783355Hi trevor AEW is a dead company no matter how hard you white knight tony. Now take the wrestling fig out yo bussy playa.
>>16783268Wrestle Dynasty seems to have jumpstarted new japan
Did anything of significance happen at the Blue Justice XV show?
>>16783293>yet to be able to create a new class of guys like the one they had 10 years agoI think the concern with this is that they are trying to build up a new main event scene centred around Umino, Tsuji, Narita and Uemura. The problem is they’re either not getting over with the fans, and if they are, there is a palpable fear in the audience they’ll be poached by Tony.
>>16783355>w...we like each other really!We fucking hate you tranny faggots and your shitty wasted potential product
>>16784245Totally not a larping edrone btw
>>16783471>trusting carny inoki numberskek
>>16784305>b-b-but my boogeyman!Kys tranny
>>16783862Fun times were had
>>16784213>there is a palpable fear in the audience they’ll be poached by Tony.So here's a big myth about poaching. Whether it's Tony or WWE etc. These places can't force a wrestler to sign with them. AJ and Nakamura?They wanted to leave NJPW to go to WWE. Will and Okada? They were leaving NJPW regardless and wanted to go to AEW. If these new guys they're developing want to leave too then there's nothing NJPW can do to stop that. Cutting your legs off at the knees out of that fear instead of making NJPW a place where top talent would want to stay is a NJPW problem far more than it's one with any outside promotion
>>16784476I agree with you in the point that you can’t force an employee to stay with a company. The issue I have is this consolidation of talent between two companies in that effectively shuts everyone else out. Tony Khan is known for vastly overpaying for talent over their perceived market value, this is known since the Khan’s are known to do the exact same thing with free agency talent in the NFL. Nobody sees this as a bad thing from the talent perspective, but if you create an environment where you are offering independent (in this context NJPW, NOAH, TNA, etc) talent 2-3x what they were being offered by their previous employer, the only players who are going to be able to match that are the company funded by a billionaire, or the company that a subsidiary of a multi-billion dollar company, everyone else is effectively locked out.
>>16784476>These places can't force a wrestler to sign with themNot literally, but practically they can almost do itWrestlers are people who have their own lives to look out for. Western companies can offer anyone and everyone they want multiple times over what NJPW pays them for much less body-breaking work. Only a complete mark would turn that down just for the pride of putting on better matches
>>16784337Piggy be oinking, eh?
>>16783862SANADA wore this
>>16786780why is lil bro narrating
>>16786335>Not literally, but practically they can almost do itThey can't though. The closest I'll give you is WWE propping up Marigold to funnel Giulia over from Stardom directly into WWE without her ever entering free agency. But even in that case she still had to want to go to WWE in the first place. No promotion can force you to sign a contract. The only case where someone can end up in a promotion they didn't want to is a case where WWE bought out WCW and inherited all of their contracted talent. And EVEN THEN you still had guys like Sting, Goldberg at first, etc who decided not to partake because they didn't want to be there
>>16784476The difference being in the past NJPW and WWE offered distinctly different things. WWE being more road-heavy, more work, NJPW being easier on the wrestler's personal life while still providing them decent money and freedom to work indies.AEW just gives everything NJPW could give you but magnified, there's no longer a contest.
>>16783268Goto puts asses in seats, we already knew that.
>>16786839he gay
>>16786885you either did not read the rest of my post beyond the first ten words or you completely ignored it
>>16786889I would never in my life begin to try and argue that there aren't differences between the companies. Of course there are. Drastic differences in plenty of cases at that. But talent are going to go where they want to go for whatever reason that is. Money, exposure, how light or even heavy the schedule is. If AEW is offering more than NJPW can then that's not really AEW's fault nor is it something they should be faulted for. You wouldn't ever fault WWE for offering their ability to showcase talent on stages far bigger than what AEW can offer. That just is what it is. And the same applies there. If NJPW needs to step up to compete with what AEW can offer then fucking do that, again instead of chopping their nose off to spite their own face
>>16786924desu I don't fault AEW for it either, beyond my misgivings of how they handle the talent on the product, it's not an infrastructural issue that they have more money to throw away at signings, it's not poaching or anything, it's just, from the perspective of an NJPW fan, the grim reality that there's zero reason to entertain NJPW as anything more than a stepping stone to AEW. It's impossible for them to compete.
>>16783309The match they had last G1 was great. NJPW will be saved if Uemura is the top babyface and Kidd is the top foreign heel.
>>16783268Goto is reliable as always and Osaka really likes Zack
I'd go>Kidd loses to Tsuji>Goto beats ZSJ>Kidd wins NJC>Goto loses belt to Kidd in first defense
>>16783268Hear me out. Goto wins then gets challenged by Yoshi-Hashi
The Anniversary show being next very much throws off the idea of Goto winning. I don't see a Goto/Despy match taking place. I would come up with is they have Goto winning and nominating Tanahashi as his first challenger for that show, but EVIL's definitely not waiting till March to come back and feud with Tana some more.
>>16786924>If NJPW needs to step up to compete with what AEW can offer then fucking do thatand how do you proposed they do that without the financial backing of a billionaire capable of matching or exceeding any offer given by either WWE or AEW?
>>16787301>>16787395I’d combine ideas here to give Goto one defense via Anniversary show. Either Tana or Desperado is fine - both are very popular.
>>16783268>The tickets started to move quickly once Goto was announcedBased based based
>>16783355I bet you are the poster that always hated Tama Tonga in all the gamethreads
Zack should still win.Goto should win G1Beat Zack at next wrestle kingdom
>>16787320That's a korakuen main event, or a cute G1 match. Not a title match anywhere where they're trying to draw
>>16783405>actually aew is referred to as "poop dick wrestling" by Japanese wrestling fansdo you have proof of this other than that screenshot that has 1 (one) person calling it poop dick wrestling?
>>16787301and then vacate the title because Kidd goes to America
>>16783268>gives the trios belts life by having nonstop great matches at a time when nobody was watching and the crowds were quiet>covers up for your shit tag division for 3 straight yearsIts gotta happen. The Goto Revolution must begin in Osaka..
>>16783481Watch the videos the dome was absolutely packed>>16783536Dominion is their second biggest show annually aside from the dome shows>>16786885>because they didn't want to be thereAnon, they had massive guaranteed contracts being paid by time Warner and WWE refused to pay them the same to come to work. Why the hell would they go back to work even if they wanted to? You'd literally be taking a huge pay cut to hit the road 360 days a year. No thanks. Only morons would take the mark contract and go back to work
>>16788037>Watch the videos the dome was absolutely packedwhat and count the individual niggas there? no thanks. i may not have a job, but i DO have a social life.
>>16787991>do you have proof of this other than the proof I already know existstroons are fucking retarded
>>16788053no no no hang onall im saying is that there is a single (1) image where there is one (1) post that calls aew poop dick wrestlingthis post >>16783405 said that aew is referred to as poop dick wrestling by japanese FANSyou see the "s" there? as in plural (2+)? like more than one (1)?all im asking for is that you provide some proof that multiple (2+) japanese fans have started calling aew poop dick wrestling. or have you just been worked by ojama and the hogcord?
Love Goto and all...But ZSJ should put over clean one of the YL
>>16787802as much as he should win it at the dome, we can’t have goto hitting the double digits in title shots>>16788009based gotochad
>>16783268Inoki must be proud.
>homegrown talent draws more than gaijin shittersshocking
>>16783268100% it has to do with them not loosening rules on crowd chantingMany fans who would usually be attendees now feel uncomfortable going to live shows because they feel the venue's policies are hostile
>>16788042You don't need to count anybody, just look around for 3 seconds and realize how much of a retard you areThe dome does not work attendance figures>>16788557>homegrown talent >ZSJ>>16788590I can't possibly see how this is in any way a factor when Japanese audiences tend to be extremely quiet
>>16783268>Goto and ZSJ drawing as much as Ospreays last match and Danielson during his retirement runRED FUCKING HOT
