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Were you trusting the flan, anon?

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>>19631427
>no nameplate

>>19631479
They fired the nameplate guy

who the fuck got banned lol

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>is confirmed to be the worst Bullet Club leader of all time
My only issue is they didn't wait until Callum beat Finlay to kill it

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>>19631771
Probably this retard again. I'm the one who baited him to get banned here and it was talking about NJPW I think, maybe puro in general

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>“I myself feel that I am not toned enough yet, and that is something I will build on from here.

>I thought about what my true strength is and in what condition I’m at my strongest. When I tried to lose weight, the training got a bit tougher. As a result, my stamina decreased, and I realized I needed to focus on winning. If I slim down and end up losing (it’s pointless). Of course, making a statement with your body is important, but winning is everything.

>(six-pack abs) I don’t think I need to go that far. I’m not that type. I wasn’t ripped during my judo days either.

>To maximize my current performance, this physique was the best yesterday. To build it in just six months (since joining). Of course, my wrestling career from here is long, so ultimately, I think I’d like to trim down, shed unnecessary parts, and sharpen my body.

>I think being targeted is the best. The more you’re targeted, the more you feel you have to become stronger yourself. I think that feeling of excitement from being someone’s target will help me grow even more.”

https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/372708
https://x.com/meraWRESTLING/status/2008320718099108027

>>19632217
Based kayfabe response from the Urulfu

>>19630623
Is he the savior we've been waiting for?

>>19631845
I don't think he ever really fit well with the rest of the War Dogs but he'll easily go down as the worst BC leader if he just rolls over and accepts not being the leader of this new team

Last night was Oiwa's Shota vs. Ospreay and we've seen in excruciating detail what happens if you don't follow through

ACE --> ICE

>>19632762
Oiwa needs tights again

Aaron Wolf wants his Olympic Slam referred to as the Angle Slam, in reverence to fellow Olympic gold medalist and former IWGP Heavyweight Champion Kurt Angle. That’s badass!

>>19633336
The guy with no 5 star matches? Why would he pick him?

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https://www.njpw1972.com/623114
Press conference recap
>No shit but the V4 heavyweight Title is back
>The World Heavyweight Title lineage is merged into the Heavyweight title's, making Tsuji, the 15th World Champion, the 87th Heavyweight Champion
>Reaffirms that the Intercontinental Title is NOT coming back and that it's a different belt from the Global Title
>The Global at least defended by Tsuji will be a belt defended overseas and/or against outsiders, and will boycott any event where the HW belt isn't the main event
>Jake Lee has not been given a title shot
>BULLET CLUB is officially gone


>

>>19633488
I'm sure belt nostalgia will improve NJPW attendance.

https://www.njpw1972.com/623138
SANADA isn't actually leaving after all. Seems like he's finally getting his shit fixed, probably years too late for it though

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https://www.njpw1972.com/623111
Young Lion Cup is back but it's a single elimination tournament.

https://www.njpw1972.com/623110
Nagata, Wolf, Yano & Boltin vs HoT main events BLUE JUSTICE XVII in 2 weeks. Unbound Co.'s first tag match is the semi-main but none of the gaijin are in the January part of this tour yet.

https://www.njpw1972.com/623112
January 19th: Yasuda vs Matsumoto, Daiki Nagai vs Zane Jay, Fujita vs SHO, Robbie vs Nobu, TMDK vs Bishamontin NEVER 6-Man, YuSho (means victory btw) vs Taichi & Ishii
January 20th: Shoma Kato vs winner of Yasuda/Matsumoto, Murashima vs winner of Nagai/Zane, Ichiban Sweet Boys vs SHO & Nobu Jr Tag, Despy vs DOUKI Jr Title

>>19633488
>The Global at least defended by Tsuji will be a belt defended overseas and/or against outsiders, and will boycott any event where the HW belt isn't the main event
IWGP Gaijin Piggu Heavyweight Championship

>>19633534
>Young Lion Cup is back
UNFATHOMABLY BASED
>but it's a single elimination tournament.
A little sad but I'm still happy to see these guys given some attention.

>>19633549
So the Global is the new designated belt to have holidays in AEW

>>19633488
>Jake Lee has not been given a title shot
Smart bastard bros what's going on??

>>19630623
is this an appropriate physique for a champion? has he considered lifting weights and stopping eating ramen 6 times a day?

>>19633592
I'm perfectly fine with this

>>19633507
I don’t know why they wouldn’t just say he’s tending to injuries if that’s the case.

>>19633549
>Global title gets fucked around with elsewhere
>Tag belts get elevated with would-be singles guys
I'll take it

>>19633599
Same but you just know Tony is gonna want one of his guys holding the V4 ASAP

>>19633610
Maybe he'll commission a better Global title belt for NJPW because the current one sucks ass. He'll want to have it look good.

>>19633610
As much as we don't need more AEW intervention with the hebbyq Okada winning it and putting over Uemura or Oiwa in Tokyo Dome is something I can get behind.

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>>19633488
>The World Heavyweight Title lineage is merged into the Heavyweight title's, making Tsuji, the 15th World Champion, the 87th Heavyweight Champion
Kek Finnerman just became a 2 time hebby-q weight champion EZPZ. That's my ace

>>19633654
>Tsuji and not Lee
uh oh

>>19633654
Grim roster

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>>19633336
i don't care if he held the IGF version of the belt
kurt angle was an IWGP heavyweight champion and in this thread we will respect that and him
aaron is off to a great start

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I can't even begin to tell you how happy I am to see it again. If this is the start of how Tanahashi's reign as CEO of New Japan gets off to, then he's already on the right path.
He's a long hard road ahead of him as it stands at the moment.

>>19633707
more than the design itself i'm just glad the lineage is restored
that pissed me off more than the new one being ugly

>The IC/Hebby got deunified
>IC retried
>Global remains
It's crazy to me that in all this, the US title died for fucking nothing

>>19633721
The US title is the Global title.

>>19633740
Different title and lineage
all because will ospraey wanted to do that gay ass UK title thing

>>19633596
Realistically, putting him in that spot after being gone for 15 months is a big risk, since Tsuji needs to look good. The way Tsuji was talking to him, reminded me of Okada and Shibata. So if Lee looks good to them, he'll probably win the cup

>>19633488
So I guess Andrade is beating Gabe then

>lineages merged
>all the disgusting white piggus are still officially world champs
grim

>>19633761
That's a worthy sacrifice to keep GOATO in the history books brother

>>19633750
Sure but it sprung off it. The match was originally going to be for the US/UK title and then they made it for the Global. Under historian templates, the Global is just a continuation of the US. It's not what the lineage would say, but it would be & is retarded to not count it as such.

I mean do you really want the legacy to have been from two years ago that came from nothing and has only been defended in Japan despite being "Global"? It's about as much as a global title currently as GCW has a World title, which it isn't.

>Ospreay, Moxley, Sanada, Shingo and Takeshita are now former IWGP Hebby Q Champions
monkey's pawn strikes again.................................

Doesn't that mean Ibushi is technically a 2-time champion since he started a new reign when the bekts unified?

>>19633336
>>19633660
i like him even more now holy shit

>>19633815
all great wrestlers

>>19633817
It's counted as 1 reign.

The timeline goes:
73rd: Kota Ibushi
74: Will Ospreay
Vacated
75: Shingo Takagi
76: Kazuchika Okada (6)
77: Jay White (2)
78: Kazuchika Okada (7)
79: Sanada
80: Tetsuya Naito (4)
81: Jon Moxley
82: Tetsuya Naito (5)
83: Zack Sabre Jr.
84: Hirooki Goto
85: Zack Sabre Jr. (2)
86: Konosuke Takeshita
87: Yota Tsuji

Salada is done

>>19630623
1/18 Yuji Nagata Produce: Blue Justice XVII @ Sakura Civic Gymnasium (4:00pm)
>Boltin Oleg, Toru Yano, Aaron Wolf, & Yuji Nagata vs Dick Togo, Yujiro Takahashi, Ren Narita, & EVIL
>Gedo, Taiji Ishimori, Hiromu Takahashi, Shingo Takagi, & Yota Tsuji vs Jakob Austin Young, Francesco Akira, Great-O-Khan, Callum Newman, & Jake Lee
>Shoma Kato, Yuya Uemura, & Shota Umino vs Satoshi Kojima, Taichi, & Tomohiro Ishii
>Tatsuya Matsumoto, YOSHI-HASHI, & Hirooki Goto vs Hartley Jackson, Ryohei Oiwa, & Zack Sabre Jr.
>Masatora Yasuda, Ryusuke Taguchi, & El Desperado vs Yoshinobu Kanemaru, SHO, & DOUKI
>Katsuya Murashima, Master Wato, & YOH vs Daiki Nagai, OSKAR, & Yuto-Ice
>Zane Jay & Tiger Mask vs Kosei Fujita & Robbie Eagles

>Road to The New Beginning

1/19 Korakuen (6:30pm)
>IWGP Tag Team Championship No. 1 Contender: Yuya Uemura & Shota Umino vs Taichi & Tomohiro Ishii
>NEVER Openweight 6 Man Tag Team Championship: Hartley Jackson, Ryohei Oiwa, & Zack Sabre Jr. vs Boltin Oleg, YOSHI-HASHI, & Hirooki Goto
>Robbie Eagles vs Yoshinobu Kanemaru
>Kosei Fujita vs SHO
>Gedo, Taiji Ishimori, Hiromu Takahashi, Shingo Takagi, & Yota Tsuji vs Jakob Austin Young, Francesco Akira, Great-O-Khan, Callum Newman, & Jake Lee
>Master Wato, YOH, Toru Yano, El Desperado, & Aaron Wolf vs Dick Togo, Yujiro Takahashi, EVIL, DOUKI, & Ren Narita
>Young Lion Cup 1st Round: Daiki Nagai vs Zane Jay
>Young Lion Cup 1st Round: Masatora Yasuda vs Tatsuya Matsumoto

1/20 Korakuen (6:30pm)
>IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: El Desperado vs DOUKI
>IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championships: Kosei Fujita & Robbie Eagles vs Yoshinobu Kanemaru & SHO
>Young Lion Cup Semifinal: Katsuya Murashima vs Winner of Daiki Nagai vs Zane Jay
>Young Lion Cup Semifinal: Shoma Kato vs Winner of Masatora Yasuda vs Tatsuya Matsumoto

>>19633994
1/28 Ito Kougyou Arena Tsugaru (7:00pm)
1/29 Iwate Prefectural Gymnasium (7:00pm)
2/1 Korakuen (6:30pm)
2/2 Korakuen (6:30pm)
2/3 Iwaki City General Gymnasium (6:30pm)
2/4 Fukushima Toyota Crown Arena (6:30pm)
2/7 Takeda Ham Habikino Coliseum (4:00pm)
2/8 EDION Arena Osaka 2nd Stadium (6:00pm)

2/11 The New Beginning in Osaka @ EDION Arena (3:00pm)
>IWGP Tag Team Championships: OSKAR & Yuto-Ice (c) vs Winners of the Jan 19th No. 1 Contender Match
>NEVER Openweight Championship: Aaron Wolf vs Ren Narita

>EVIl drawing another milly on TV
Is that why TK hates him so much?

>>19634025
>TK
It's because Meltzer and the WON crowd don't like him.
Khan basically books with Meltzer in mind and that's why they can't hit 400K viewers or draw more than 2K people to a 19K seat venue.
Turns out that listening to people who've never been involved in the business isn't a smart thing to do.

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is there lore behind the Carmen Sandiego cosplay or does he really just dress like this for no reason

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>>19634070

>>19634025
Did you see the eyes of Omega, White & Ospreay when they came out?

They haven't seen a sold out crowd in AEW in god knows how long.

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Now that this title is fucking dead, what were its best and worst moments?

ZSJ had really good runs, and the Goto run was great. Sanada at least looked good with it.

Ending Naito's run to give it to Moxley was bad, and they had horrible marches together. Though the EVIL match was good. Making Ibushi the first champion, and going all in on him was as dumb as it was happening as it is all these years later.

>>19634098
Is someone lying to NJPW management and Bushiroad?
Surely they can see the low ratings and attendance?

>>19634182
>going all in on him
>immediately loses the first defense to ospreay

>>19634182
Literally every single misstep can be traced to the company wanting to make a splash in America.
Job your biggest draw and merchandise seller to a bald fake tough guy who isn't over in your company?

>>19634187
>Implying the company potentially dying isn't all the more reason for NJPW to try to leech as much money from the money mark as possible while they can
>>19634200
And that is why anyone with sense knows that this year is still gonna be full of bullshit after they look at the G1 schedule.

>>19634207
But, the money mark is one of the major reasons WHY they're in this state.
NJPW is nothing more than AEW's developmental now. Six years ago, it was the best thing going.

>>19634034
This is sadly true. Tony legitimately bases his booking and hiring around what Meltzer and redditors enjoy. That’s why he hired Ibushi despite the guy utterly falling apart.

>>19633643
Sorry lil bro they finna get Money Clipped

>>19634228
Them losing the talent was a big reason why they went to shit, yes.
But let's not forget the coof. That was a huge factor as well. It was a double pronged attack that shook NJPW to its core.
They need to protect Wolf at all costs. And push Yuya, already.

>>19634234
Marks say, "Oh, he has watched pro-wrestling since the 70s, so he knows what he's talking about."
They don't understand that you need experience to properly understand something. Meltzer has none.
Never wrestled. To my knowledge, never even trained.
Never ran his own promotion.
Never booked.
Never scouted talent.
Never involved in production.
Never involved with the business in any real way.
And yet, you've got Khan and so many young guys catering to him.
He's a bumbling moron.

>>19634191
There's no way the original plan was for them to make Ibushi the inaugural champion, kill the two prestigious belts and then give him a 30 day reign. Something must have happened.

>>19634242
>coof
I think that is greatly exaggerated. Every sport in Japan recovered. Every pro-wrestling promotion recovered and are now doing better than they have done in years.
Only NJPW stumbled. And that was because they catered to the US market, sold out their domestic audience to do so, and lost their entire 2019-2023 main event scene to their supposed partner.

People talk about Covid and silent crowds, despite the fact that Japanese crowds have HISTORICALLY been quiet. They applaud, "ooh," and "ah" at times, but they aren't the loud audience that America has.

>>19634245
They wanted it to be a tragedy, that was the story they were telling

>>19634255
>I think that is greatly exaggerated
You're insane bruh
>Every sport in Japan recovered
Every sport in Japan relied far less on crowd interaction, and THEY LITERALLY GOT THE CROWD NOISE BACK FIRST ANYWAYS. Some sports never even lost them at all. Baseball was full of cheering the entire time.

>People talk about Covid and silent crowds, despite the fact that Japanese crowds have HISTORICALLY been quiet. They applaud, "ooh," and "ah" at times, but they aren't the loud audience that America has.
Fuck outta this thread.

>>19633721
The US title was always kinda shit. Ospreay's final reign was the only good one

>>19634263
You never watched PRIDE?
Japanese crowds have rarely been loud, dude. Watch interviews with gaijin talent. They all talk about how quiet and respectful the Japanese audience is compared to crowds in the West.
How has NOAH managed to be bigger and more relevant than it has been in over a decade?
How did Stardom manage to do well?

>>19634255
>People talk about Covid and silent crowds, despite the fact that Japanese crowds have HISTORICALLY been quiet. They applaud, "ooh," and "ah" at times, but they aren't the loud audience that America has.
lmao

>>19634262
I'll take your word for it. I wasn't really paying attention to wrestling at the time.

>>19634278
>Watch interviews with gaijin talent. They all talk about how quiet and respectful the Japanese audience is compared to crowds in the West.
lmaaaaao

Bro, I'm sorry, I hate gAyEW as much as everyone else, but you just exposed yourself as a tourist to this entire thread, so this conversation is of no worth to anyone that actually watches NJPW regularly.

>>19634284
Yeah, because the ultra-reserved Japanese audience was known for popping off and going apeshit.
Come the fuck on, dude.

>>19634255
>People talk about Covid and silent crowds, despite the fact that Japanese crowds have HISTORICALLY been quiet. They applaud, "ooh," and "ah" at times, but they aren't the loud audience that America has
That's not true.

>>19634291
Just stop embarrassing yourself and leave or at least stay quiet.

>>19634288
>tourist
Shut the fuck up, man.
Actually pay attention.
>https://www.google.com/search?q=why+are+japanese+crowds+so+quiet&oq=why+are+japanese+crowds&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKggIARAAGBYYHjIGCAAQRRg5MggIARAAGBYYHjIICAIQABgWGB4yDQgDEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgEEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgFEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyCggGEAAYogQYiQUyCggHEAAYogQYiQUyBwgIEOsHGEDSAQg0NTc5ajBqMagCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Here, I did the job for you.

>>19634297
Anon, we've all read the copes they're told, yes. AJPW was telling the foreigners this as far back as the 80s.
The funny part is you believing it.

>>19634293
>>19634296
>https://www.thesportster.com/njpw-japanese-wrestling-crowds-act-much-differently-than-american-fans/
It's a well-known fact, man. How new are you?

The silent crowd shit is a recent narrative because nobody is fucking over.
Go watch people going insane for Mil Mascaras or the infamous Onita entrances per example

>>19634304
>>>/wsg/6066460

>>19634304
>Respectful Japanese Silence

>>19634301
Ah, yes, you're the expert with your insider takes that you... Made up or got from Twitter.
Shut the fuck up and stop tip-toeing around the elephant in the room. AEW fucked NJPW more than anything. Covid and everything else may have played a part here and there, but nothing did as much damage as AEW.
They poached their big stars and killed their Western expansion and hype.

>>19634306
It's not a recent narrative, literal WCW wrestlers were spouting off this bullshit. Pretty sure Chris Jericho used to say it back in the day, too.
It's the cope they tell westerners to protect their egos.

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>>19634070
The P in IWGP stands for Pudding

>>19634313
You can't just backtrack away from exposing yourself as a tourist like this and go back to your argument expecting anyone to take it seriously or engaging with it, man. I'm not defending gAyEW, I'm saying your understanding of the situation is worthless and you should go back to whatever it is you actually watch rather than wasting your time here.

>>19634182
Retarded idea from a retarded former president

>>19634307
The Japanese crowd can go, yes, but it's a rare thing. And that makes it all the more special and impactful.
Again, how new are you?
>>19634321
I've quite literally posted proof to back up my claims. That audience is known as the best for multiple reasons.
All you've done is get pissy and deflect.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/2oxl1e/are_japanese_audiences_always_quiet_for_wrestling/
>https://www.google.com/search?q=why+are+japanese+wrestling+crowds+so+quiet+site:www.reddit.com&sca_esv=f1a6d5ece4c2b634&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj00aTZifeRAxUaV0EAHfJrGZsQrQIoAnoECA0QAw&biw=1528&bih=738&dpr=1.25
Even Iyo spoke about it in an interview with Chris Van Vliet.
A quick Google search.
Can't believe this has to be done in 2026, but hey, what can you do?

Was anyone else briefly mindbroken by that Jake Lee jig? I've always felt like he came off off like some lame chuuni desperately trying to have character but now with the awkward theme music and the contacts and the hair and the jig I just thought it was flat out embarrassing and it has absolutely no fit with what the rest of the Empire and Callum are doing.

>Acshully, the Japanese audience is the rowdiest in the game. They try to hijack shows, play with beach balls, chant constantly, and suck themselves off during every show and you're a tourist for not knowing this.
>What do you mean they're seen as the most respectful audience who're usually silent and it dates back decades?
>You're the tourist!1!!!
One of the most overlooked issues with WON/AEW is how they brought retarded newfags to this side and they don't know how to shut the fuck up.
Japan isn't AEW where the fans are trained seals who pop for everything and give you the false impression of something being over. It takes time to earn their respect and trust. If you get them amped, they will get loud. But they're typically reserved.

>>19634327
>>19634339
Dig up, stupid

>>19634362
>Acshully, the Japanese audience is the rowdiest in the game
No one said that, retard, but you were the one who said this stupid shit:
>People talk about Covid and silent crowds, despite the fact that Japanese crowds have HISTORICALLY been quiet.
The coof was a huge blow to NJPW and if you can barely tell the difference between what a coof Korakuen and a non-coof Korakuen looks like, then that's on you. It was devastating to the morale of both the crowds and the wrestlers and it had a huge impact. The only way you could possibly think it's not that big a deal because muh respectful silent crowds is if you're a tourist. End of discussion.

>>19634364
>again, can't counter
I get the feeling that you're Hogwheels.
Just uninformed arguments, no proof, and a smug sense of self-importance.
For the amount of time you're online, there's no excuse for knowing as little as you do.

>>19634372
Dude, when did you start watching? And don't be one of those retards who claims to have been watching for decades when your lack of knowledge screams newfag.
EVERYONE talks about how quiet, respectful, and reserved the Japanese audience is.
You people will blame literally anything except AEW.
Every other promotion, even the smallest ones, survive and end up thriving. Every other sport recovers. Shit, look at RIZIN.
The only thing that didn't, and still hasn't, is NJPW. And why is that?

>>19632217
What a reply.
Easily can be Face of the company in 2-4 years

>https://www.thesportster.com/wrestling/wrestling-crowds-japan-america-comparison/
Even more.

>>19632217
I love this judoka nigga like you wouldnt believe

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>>19634402
This is the last (You) I'm giving (You), since you have embarrassed yourself enough. We don't need tourists like you shitting on the gAyEW cancer, we do that ourselves just fine, thank you very much, and we're actually informed in our arguments.

Last WK before AEW was a thing: 38.162 in attendance
First WK after AEW was a thing and took a bunch of the roster with it (Which had happened over a year ago by this point): 40.008 + 30.063
WK immediately after that one, post-coof: 12.689 + 7.801. GEE. I WONDER WHAT HAPPEDED HERE?

NJPW after they got coofed up and the respectful silent Japanese crowds were no longer allowed to respectfully stare at the wrestling and say "ooh," and "ah" at times: Over 50% crowd loss

NJPW after they lost Kazuchika Okada and Tetsuya Naito in the same year: Less than 20% crowd loss.

Conclusion: You're a retard and you don't know what you're talking about. Reply however you wish to this and spam the thread as much as you want. I'm done with your sorry ass.

>>19634449
Shut the fuck up, man. Get out of your own ass.
>attendance is down when restrictions hit
No shit, moron.
Why can't you actually address anything that has been posted here? Why are you cherrypicking examples?
You really are Hogwheels.

>BRO NOAH IS LIKE SO MUCH BIGGER THAN BEFORE COVID
can someone post the 2025 puro attendances?

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>>19634475
>attendance
Yup, it's Hogwheels.
The company is close to actually being profitable. The quality has improved by leaps and bounds as well.

Do you think Tsuji's comments about Jake Lee not getting a match are a work and he'll still get it somehow or a pivot because they saw how shit Jake Lee is and no one cares about him? I'm leaning more to the former.

>>19634531
it'll get confirmed when jake pins tsuji on some preview tag, not the first time this has happened

>>19634531
no it's a shoot just like tsuji bringing back v4 was like a shoot he's like the savior and shit man (he's getting pinned in a tag match and the match is still going to happen, jake lee's great btw bitch ass nigger)

segai heavyq ee ponshobo con aimas

The sad thing about them taking this long to bring back the v4 is that we'll never get to see Goto wearing it and we'll only have memories of him with the toy belt

If you werent wearing v4, then were you even champion?

>>19634614
This, the past 5 years were non-canon

Waiting for Takahashi to be v4 champ desu

>>19634610
With how well Goto was drawing, he might just win it back at some point. Defeintly if someone gets hurt in the next 2 years and they have to pivot

>>19634629
Huge Yuj finally getting a big push

IT'S ALL ABOUT LOSING CONTROL RIGHT ABOUT NOW

>>19634643
HA HAAAA

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Why?

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Tsuji"schizos" won
Shotageek lost
The motherfucker got booed AGAIN. No one likes him lmao

>>19634708
sultry lil minx

>>19634708
Fujo yen

>>19634909
Why haven't they turned him heel yet? He could be dimes, unironically.

>>19634643
OH MY GOSH

>>19634980
BEE
YEW
ESS
AITCH
EYE EYE EYE

Jake Lee should start carrying the world heavyweight title now to fuck with Tsuji

YES 10 MILLY CONFIRMED BY MELTZER-SAMA

>>19633740
>>19634265
the US looked great tho. they shoulda just renamed it but kept the design

>>19634242
>They need to protect Wolf at all costs.
this and they also need to push him into the main event sooner rather than later

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>>19634708
>hey look at this guy with a killer look who's sexy as fuck
>i know lets give him a tranny gimmick
fucking kikes

>>19635312
The one who gave him this gimmick is Sanada Collection SS

>>19634255
>People talk about Covid and silent crowds, despite the fact that Japanese crowds have HISTORICALLY been quiet. They applaud, "ooh," and "ah" at times, but they aren't the loud audience that America has.
You can tell we've got some newfags here thanks to WK

>>19635437
based asshole taichi

>>19635437
just look at how lifeless shota's expression is throughout all of this
guy is actually a nepobaby

>>19634245
Ibushi got hurt at the time
Ever think why he lost to Ospreay and was gone the rest of the year till the G1 where the retard hurt himself again?

>>19635437
He's unironically made to be a heel

>>19635437
lol got his ass

>>19635630
The problem is he couldn't be an intimidating heel or a cool heel so they'd make him a cowardly heel and we've seen how they book cowardly heels in this promotion

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>>19635437
bruh

the century of shota humiliation

>>19634629
>Hiromu wins V4 at WK21
>Despy wins the Jr title at WK21
>Despy vs Hiromu at anniversary show
FIGHT FOREVER

>>19635630
>>19635643
Heel Shota could be never champ desu. Him turning heel to beat wolf for the belt would work.

>>19635312
SANADA was a pretty good champion imo, don't know why they reverted him back to the gay version.

>>19635778
Gabe tore his bicep and Sanada worked through it, so he could main event the dome. It's like how Orndorf did the Hogan feud, but him and his arm were never the same after.

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>>19635643
i wonder if you could book him as an emotionless lariat and STF machine. like if that dude from the Fable comics became a wrestler.

>>19635809
Didn't Ospreay injure him when he won his first singles belt? Why do British people hate him?

>>19635410
It's true. They're a historically reserved crowd.
No idea why Hogwheels is trying to force this idea that they were always loud or rabid.
Fucking newfags, man.

I forgot they decided to send Tsuji to UK instead of México and he hated it there.

EVIL is gonna start carrying around the World Title until Tsuji beats him isn't he

>>19635881
They hate him for being handsome

>>19635437
KWAB

>>19635945
No, anon, you're the newfag. also keep your gay console war boogeyman shit outside of this thread, tyvm

>>19636136
>console war
>boogeyman
Yup, called it. Knew you were Hogwheels.

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>>19634475
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah NOAH is thriving lmao

Hoggy Meal jealous because people go outside and have friends.
All the more reason to kys.

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ATTENTION: THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

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The reality: he isn't even a fan of male wrestling at all but is a disgruntled joshipedo who hates Bushiroad because he's a TJPW fag.

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Holy shit, it is actually Hogwheels.
I was just guessing because this guy is autistic and doesn't know shit.
But yeah, there he goes replying to his own comment.

Every single person in this thread hates AEW. Your boogeyman is not here. We just hate you even more. Please kill yourself and go away.

Let the rest of the board be your toilet if you want but we could care less about Tonibakan and gayEW.

Saying that NOAH fans are too cocky makes me a poop dick grim schizo poster? OK buddy...

>>19636301
Nah, the grimseether comment was unrelated to anything else going on, i just post it every thread to let the newfags know

the grimposter is actually a NOAH cocksucker
he's been telling us how Ozawa is the biggest star in Japan for over a year now (lol)

>>19636299
>>19636301
There he goes again.
Which one is your phone and which is your PC?
We're all used to your schizo shit. You're terminally online, samefag constantly, and I've recently noticed you falseflagging to start shit or force a narrative in your favor.
You use the same wording, too.

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Well it'll be fun to watch this faggot go 10 rounds with our resident schizo at least

Time to sit back and watch the autism fest

>>19636306
Nah, let me tell you what I think is going on.
You, the schizo, don't like NOAH because they're partnered with WWE, so you come in here and start shit, hoping to turn any anons here against NOAH as well.
This board is irrelevant and gets low traffic. Any schizos here are all just characters you invent, Hogwheels. We've all seen it before.
You're extra defensive in here because you don't want the other posters to know who you really are and what you're like. So you do your multiple device posting less than a minute apart gimmick.
Am I right or am I right?

>>19635994
I dont think Tsuji hated the UK. He just wanted to go to Mexico too so he could join LIJ. It was Shota that hated the UK because he was unironically getting bullied there

>>19634614
V2 is still based

>>19635643
Bitter heel could work

WHERE MY BROTHERS AT WHERE MY BROTHERS AT

2 YEARS IN THE DOJO
NOW MY ASSHOLE IS GAPED

GAY GAY
WAR READY
GABE GABE
TRANS SENT ME

>>19635737
Based

Why do we pronounce Canada like Canada but Sanada like Sanada

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>>19636360

>>19636263
How come I constantly see Dragon Gate in the top 3 but I literally never hear or see anything about it. Does it just not have Western fans?
If you offered me a million dollars I couldn't name you a single wrestler there, not even the name of a championship. Literally the only wrestler I even know who is from Dragon Gate is Shingo Takagi and that's only because I know him from Nooj.

>>19637478
DG is super insulated with a dedicated core fanbase
they stopped trying to appeal to the west after DGUSA failed and they have some other issues that keep people out like an expensive and subpar paid service to watch them

Just caught new years dash, the tag main event was better than everything on WK besides the Tanahashi match. Really hope they dont fuck up the Oiwa Yuto rivalry, could be something that carries the company.

They really just tossed Kosei back into Jr tag purgatory after taking away all his momentum.
That fajita just sitting under a heating lamp for years to come

>>19637524
I'm so mad
hes the best of the new generation, and he'll get nothing until its too late because he exists in the era where everything revolves around Despy
I like Despy too, but other juniors missing out because hes at the top is getting worse and worse

>>19637524
weren't there japanese fans complaining that he was being pushed too quickly or some dumb shit? maybe that spooked them

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>https://gofile.io/d/8radFs

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Let's all do our best and get high with Yuto Ice!

>>19633815
Fuck of anon, the Mox is great.

>>19634182
>Best moment
The day it was retired.
>Worst moment
The day it was created.

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WHERE MY PRESENTS AT
WHERE MY PRESENTS AT

>>19637426
Do you want me to actually explain?

>>19637611
Yup, fans were upset that he won BOSJ

>>19634187
If anything NJPW would be happy to stay partnered to AEW if AEW gets weaker. It can be like the good old days when NJPW could bully ROH around.

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two covers for the ace

>>19632217
>Tsuji
>Oiwa
>Wolf
>Yuto-Ice
The New Era is in good hands

>>19633149
nah he looks great with the trunks and the blonde hair

does Oskar speak any japanese?

>>19633610
>>19633625
>white strap V4
welcome back Intercontinental Championship

>The virgin Ibushi
-Becomes double champ in a 12k Tokyo dome with clap crowds
-Has to defend it in front of even less people the next night for almost an hour
-Is forever the man associated with merging and destroying 2 of the best looking belts ever
-Drops the title and gets injured in his first defence
-Is never the same physically or mentally after
>The Chad Tsuji
-Wins in front of a sold out Tokyo Dome while making a bitch tapout
-Brings back the best looking belt ever
-Clearly differentiates the titles, while still establishing the hebbyq as the crown jewel of NJPW
-Can actually cut a promo

>>19633761
>Jon Moxley, Hulk Hogan and Antonio Inoki are all former IWGP and WWF Champions
damn

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>>19633867
>Dragon Gate shitter and DDT shitter are officially (former) IWGP Hebbyq Champions

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Finally feels like NJPW is getting back some momentum. V4 is back, a younger guy finally got the strap, BC is finally over, and some of the new guys are getting better.

All except pic related. Can even a heel turn save him?

>>19634475
NOAH is wasting their entire budget on old sawdusted shitters like Anderson and Gallows in hopes they can fight NJPW in attendance numbers
They'll never make that money back

>>19639740
Yea a heel turn can save him. Narita is the one that's cooked

>>19639740
maybe he can paint his face and spit mist at people

>>19637478
>>19637510
If you take the time to watch on Youku, it’s really good, but not for everyone. It’s high-speed junior matches with the occasional House of Torture interference spots with whatever the top heel unit currently is. Shun Skywalker should be in a bigger promotion - he’s like Shingo where it feels like he’s done everything already.

>>19639740
He could be the new Yoshi but that's his ceiling. A fucking loser who the crowd is eventually Stockholm syndromed into finding loveable.

>>19635643
He should do an incel school shooter gimmick

>>19636306
OZAWA is great though, his GHC reign should've been longer but they just really needed to go for the KENTA nostalgia run

>>19637545
The Junior division is moves glacially. Fujita will be the old fuck taking away from the younger juniors in a decade.

>>19637545
Despy is in the mid-2010s KUSHIDA spot right now

>>19639740
he'd certainly have plenty of material to work with. there's really no reason for them not to give it a shot at this point

They blew their load on declaring who the musketeers are. Shoulda waited
>Yuya
>Yota
>Oiwa
Most likely these three are the future
well Yuya will be Gedo'd hard over shota umino fucking sucks so maybe not him.
Wolf obviously but I'm assuming they're gonna take their time with him

yeah im thinkin the wolf man should main event the tokyo dome

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I'm finally getting back into New Japan. Can someone explain Jake Lee's supposed appeal to me? He seems like a not particularly well thought out CAW

>>19639760
he just like me fr

>>19639841
Traitor heel who betrays every faction and promotion he ever ends up in. Betrayed AJPW and his AJPW stable. Betrayed NOAH and his NOAH stable. Now betrayed the War Dogs.

>>19639851
I vaguely picked up on that from WK but he's the only one who really didn't impress me in that 10 man tag. Maybe he'll grow on me but having not watched New Japan for a few years all the guys I heard about but never saw before like KOB have been great except Lee

>>19639863
He's tall and can talk (think Jake Roberts but not as good). I believe what people say about him getting overpushed because he's real, but he has something. His lack of charisma loops all the way around into having my attention

>>19639889
*because he's tall

I understand the HoT vortex is the safest place for a green guy like Wolf but I fear he spends too long in there while other guys are leveling up and by the time he gets out the crowd is mild for him and the fire will be gone.

>>19639889
his lack of charisma doesn't loop him for me and I'm stuck thinking why is this cringy dork involved in this UE story where he has no place. Andrade at least makes sense even if he has the most obvious "alright I've done the minimum I'm fucking off back to AEW forever" vibe of all time.

>>19640003
Goto should have been up there in some capacity. That title win had the most memorable crowd I've seen in the modern era.

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>>19639841
>Jake Lee's appeal to Japanese audiences
One of the mystery of the universes for us non-Jap fans, sadly

The long and short answer is: I have no fucking idea what his appeal is. He's... tall? And Koreans bad, I guess?

>>19640381
apparently he's a great promo

>>19640399
I know the Japs aren't just smarks and actually like character work and whatnot but I didn't realize promos were that much of a component

Misawa barely said 5 words his entire career

Willing to give nu-Jamal a chance now. Where do I start

>>19640505
Depends on how far back you want to go

You only interested in recent stuff or do you want to see the Tanahashi era, or even further back?

>>19640505
WK20 and New Year Dash lil bro

>>19640422
CIMA's entire career is owed to him being able to run circles around anyone in a promo. More than his wrestling ability. The problem is he had such an ego (tied to his promo ability) he was practically blackballed from working anywhere but GLEAT.

Osaka is btw the smarkiest area in Japan for Pro Wrestling (You could say the Chicago/Philidelphia of Japan). Watch Osaka shows to see how bad things can get for some wrestlers who can't keep up.

>>19640527
I know that about Osaka. They were doing English "this is awesome" chants for Moxley.

>>19640505
Well we hit the post WK/Dash lull so not much until later in the month. From last year I'd watch New Beginning in Osaka: Gabe vs Tsuji and especially Goto vs. Zack, New Japan Cup: finals Shota vs Finlay, Sakura Genesis: Goto vs Finlay, Tanahashi Jam: Goto vs Zack, G1: Uemura vs Oiwa, World Tag League: finals (any Finlay/Hiromu matches for a fun time too).

>>19637545
>>19637524
Fujita is ugly and looks like a Holocaust victim

>>19640527
>Shota is gonna have to wrestle KOB in Osaka a year after they booed him and saw him shave his own head
>he's gonna win too
I'm excited.

>>19640537
Oh I didn't put last year's junior heavyweights in. Best of the Super Juniors: finals Fujita vs YOH, Sakura Junior Genesis: El Desperado vs Clark Connors hardcore title match.

>>19640003
>KOB brothers brought their belts
>Takeshita didn't
kek bet he knew he was jobbing out by then

>>19640547
dai booing, lol

>>19639740
He needs a HARD heel turn. It always works I'm surprised they haven't tried it yet, honestly.

>>19640577
anon... the award ceremony was held about 3 hours ago

>>19640604
The Death Riders (rightfully) get a lot of shit but sending Shota to work with him for a short excursion really could've freshened him up. Tiny probably picked Gabe though. I guess he could turn on Yuya soon but I dunno that just feels kinda lame

>>19634317
if the p stands for pudding and the g stands for goto what do the i and w stand for

>>19640784
inu wanker. After all, Tony is at the center of NJPW

>>19640784
indians and wogs

Send Shota to Mexico and see if he can learn to work for the crowd

They only booked the KOB title match and Wolf/Narita for the NEVER and yet Edion Osaka sold out ticket supply for a while on 2 ticket sites.

>>19640784
ICE and White piggu (to the dismay of Tsuji)

>>19639740
Not sure people are convinced that a heel turn can save him when being a convincing heel (and not just a guy who is a jerk and slaps chairs on people) is something that he can do, when he can't sell his own character/person in a convincing way

>>19641126
maybe the judoka with big tits is actually a draw huh

>>19641333
straight, gay, american, japanese, man, woman. titties are always a draw

Will wolftits become less of a draw when he gets exposed as more mid than it first seemed? Or will it not matter and his name recognition and shoot credentials will follow him for as long as he's booked well?

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Tanabros...

>>19641582
this nigga is so sawdusted he shrinked

How come New Japan are suddenly making good decisions again? Did Gedo get fired?

>>19641591
maybe him coming out with okada was a signal that he got the book back from the tv asahi committee

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Grimbros.......I'm starting to waver....

>>19641591
NJPW lost its final "safety net" when Tanahashi retired. So now they actually have to push and take chances on guys

>>19641633
>Wolf and Ice are draws
Its unironically the Fat Boy Era and its based. Tsuji should be eating more flans asap

>>19641633
What the fuck is it with schizos and attendance on this board?

>>19640381
His unique charisma, where everything he does seems to be well thought out and calculated, where the character itself pretends otherwise by acting like a jester. He's a genius. You could say that he's smart even. While also being a bastard. On top of that, tall, handsome Koreans are a huge draw with Japanese women. K-Pop is massive there. And straight men should stop talking about the attractiveness of other men, I'm tired of seeing bullshit like EVIL or Jake Lee being called ugly.

In hindsight, the tag title match being moved to New Year's Dash was the best thing that could have happened for all parties involved. Yuto is a made man now

>>19641712
Let me guess you're fat

https://x.com/njpw1972/status/2008786448305320251
Tanahashi is threatening to cut his hair off this weekend.

>>19641766
My BMI is 17.

>>19641912
Oh god not again

maybe wait a month before calling a new boom period

can't wait for the schizo to claim that gates drawn by wolf shouldn't count because it's heckin' unfair or whatever

>>19641945
I think it's just people counter-shitposting the "Grim" and "Ice Cold" posting we had to endure for 5 years (Even though NJPW has been pretty stable, all things considered, for the past 3 years or so)

As for me, I think the pieces are all here for a new boom period but both the wrestlers need to keep working hard to rise up to it and the booking needs not to get in their way. And the fact that this year's G1 starts in America is a pretty bad sign to me that things are about to slow down once again.

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>>19641930
Gain weight. Its the Fat Boy era

The company would recover if they stopped catering to America and cut off AEW.
Look at Wrestle Dynasty. Nobody in Japan gives a particle of a shit about AEW.
Look at TV ratings and attendance. Nobody in the US gives a particle of a shit about AEW.

Let's get the true, authentic alternative to slop back, please.

Looks like New Japan is officially merging the WHC and Hebby Q lineages. All WHC's now retroactively hold the same belt as Hashimoto, Inoki, Mutoh etc which is kinda weird to think about, but at least Goto technically got to hold the real one.

Stop bringing AEW for a few weeks, they basically saved WK with the 2 top matches.

>>19642026
I'll give credit where it's due, but this isn't true.
Takeshita can go, sure, but AEW does more harm than good.

>>19641945
They always choke about 4-6 months after a good streak of booking this decade, plus Tsuji's very first opponent is Jake Lee. They could ruin this in record time.

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Can't tell if this is some fan LARPing or transcribing what Fujinami and Mutoh said, but it's in-character enough that I'm posting it

The ratings for the NJPW TV Asahi show, to be specific, in the Kanto region, were 5 million viewers for the Wolf Aaron vs EVIL match and for the Tanahashi vs Okada match and 3 million viewers for the digest that was 5 minutes of Tsuji vs Takeshita, 5 minutes of the women's match and 5 minutes of Tanahashi's retirement.

>>19642234
>five millies
this actually makes NJPW the number one promotion in the world if you think about it. WWE hasn't gotten 5 millies in decades and AEW never has.

>>19641994
shingobros have reason to be happy too

>>19642234
Hot damn

>>19642391
Should be kept in mind that those are perfectly average ratings for that timeslot. Great exposure for NJPW, though.

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Yappari, our 5ch BROTHERS are just like us.

No matter how much NXTroons try to force it, the divas belt will never "retroactively" be the real belt

>>19642415
I'm sorry nanashi-kun....they're too supple

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GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

>>19642432
No fucking shit. How were alarm bells not immediately rung for everyone ITT when they announced the G1 starting in the US?

>>19642432
Dude this was obvious from the start

>>19641591
It's been less than a week since WK. The future looks brighter than it has before but give it more time and they'll probable fumble something like making Newman bring bullet club back

>AEW wrestlers
>s
Bruh even if there were 0 trannies we have too many people for 20 spots. Enough with the trannies already.

>>19642432
Why must the tranny menace contaminate everything?

>>19642432
No shit, it's in Chicago

I'd expect at least 2 AEW guys, one each block. Maybe more.
Won't be as bad as it sounds if it's like, Okada and Jay White. Jay should be back by then and he'd be a great choice. It also goes with his story of not being able to wrestle in Japan anymore due to his own stipulation.

>>19642437
>>19642438
I know but it's still annoying. If there's like 3 or 4 AEW guys taking up slots the tournament it'd be so disappointing when this year is the most vital period for building up their own guys.

>>19642453
>Jay isn't able to wrestle in Japan
>Shows up for the first two matches and wins them
>Automatically forfeits every match after
Gotta love the switchblade, baby, you just gotta

We'll end up getting Fat Eddie and his shit 90s AJPW cosplay act again.

>>19642447
Make it 22 guys like G1 2014 was

>>19642455
The guys who will be left off are like Taichi and Ishii and guys who just moved into the dad division

Sucks to miss out on Taichi but he's been screwed by NJPW his entire career lol

>>19642034
NJPW is in the state it is in because of bad booking and lack of young rising stars. I know e-tards who have never watched NJPW like to think it's AEW but it really has nothing to do with it. AEW can disappear tomorrow and NJPW will still suck for the same reasons.

>>19642460
Oh only two shows are in US? I thought they all were

The G1 should be like two blocks of 6 or 8 at the most. Less is more.

>>19642463
Taichi was obviously out anyways cause he never goes to America.
Yoshi-Hashi probably gone too.
Even then, it's tight. Wolf and KOB just got in.

>>19642466
>And the most ice cold G1 of all time award goes to...

Tsuji
Uemura
Shota
Yuto
OSKAR
Oiwa
Zack
Wolf
Boltin
Goto
Shingo
Drilla
Gabe
Jake
O Khan
HENARE
Callum
Narita

In limbo: EVIL, SANADA, Finlay

>>19642477
>Drilla
>Gabe
>Callum
Lol

Kidd should be out since we're already gonna have to give up space for the trannies that have completed their transition. Give xher an injury angle or some shit.

>>19642468
Ah that's right, Taichi is afraid of flying

I forgot
Damn he's just like me

GAPED GAPED
DUB READY
GAY GAY
BUM READY

>>19642432
This was inevitable. We just have to hope Tony doesnt convince NJPW management that they need the V4 on an AEW guy to draw for the American shows (you just know Tony is itching to get the V4 on one of his guys).

I guess if it's an ex-NJPW guy coming back to job to current NJPW guys, it won't be too bad. And by that I mean, proper job, not "win the title, hold it for months and then lose to someone"

I'm fine with a couple AEW guys being in there as long as none of them make it out of the groups but at the same time anyone AEW would be willing to send over for that while also be willing enough to let them job that much wouldn't be worth it. Like in that case they'd send someone like Mike Bailey or some shit.
Especially this year it is vital that the people that make it out of groups are all pure NJPW guys.

>>19642512
Mike Bailey is based and was kino in BOTSJ but I agree with your overall sentiment

>Nooj is BACK
>Nooj has partner obligations with gayew
>Nooj is GRIM
You are here
>Tiny convinces Swerve Nigland to win the v4 and hold it until WK
This BS will happen

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>>19642432

>>19642519
Not when xhe inserts xer tranny wife onto commentary

Honestly wouldn't mind jeong mosque-li desu. He could even make it to the semifinals and then put someone like Oiwa over hard

>>19642198
>it's like romance
classic Muto

>>19642198
>Also, these kinds of standouts tend to leave quickly, you know?
I can read this shit in his voice.
Grumpy grandpa.

>>19642477
i'd just go with the first 10 you listed tbqh. less is more. maybe swap Oskar for Jake

>>19642519
He's the absolute shits

>>19642534
>wanting to watch Jon Moxley wrestle in any circumstances

Will we see any of the young guys eventually quit? You usually get somebody who sees the writing on the walls that they won't be the guy in NJPW and try their luck somewhere else.

>>19642534
I don't like Jeong-Mok Lee.

>>19642575
He's really not that bad. I hated him initially but he's pretty good actually.

>>19642432
Okada is assuredly going to be in the tourney if not winning it so he can officially beat/tie (i cant recall) Chono's record

>>19642466
>I thought they all were
anta baka?

>>19642477
My guess is that, as popular as they are, KOB go the GoD route and opt to not do the G1 to focus on the tag titles. This would leave room for Takeshita, another AEW rep and some combination of who remains by July (Finlay/Kidd/Evil/Sanada).

>>19641657
mind raped by Meltzer

>>19642432
Oh for fuck's sake.

>>19642465
>e-tards
Shut the fuck up, Hoggy Meal.
AEW took their entire 2019-2023 main event scene in two years. They struggle to make new stars because they ones that should've helped to build them were in AEW.
Kill yourself.

next >>19643178

>>19642432
Grim

>>19641974
hell yeah nigga 2026 anthem right here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRkKfKYxvdE