>>77228417
Is this where the 420 chan refugees hang out? Site has been kill for a long time now.
I had some specific questions that I would have asked them recently.

>>77228439
ask away, i am a drug expert

>>77223998
desu i didn't join just because i want to be able to do it from my browser

>>77228462
As am I, I don't have any outstanding questions regarding spaceflight.

I want to stop smoking weed, I swear its made me lazy as fuck

I wish drugs lasted longer. I mean, 5 hours is a pretty good time but I want to be high all day. Sure I could just does twice a day but I can't afford that shit. Fuck life.

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>Tfw taking 22.5 mgs of meth a day
>Feel like a useless addict

>>77228571
no ur not lil peepo! meth is good 4 ur brain, makes u smarter! keep doing more :)

>>77228439
I was just thinking about this. I remember the last time I posted on 420chan back in college

The internet is moving backwards bros.

I am currently in possession of
>mushrooms
>lorazepam
>clonazepam
>adderall
>half ounce of weed

On 420 I got
>half ounce
>2 infused pre rolls
>1 gram joint
>mini glass pipe
>0.5g thc vape

For $67.00

>>77228439
>>77228730
Make the fucking website
Or save money and hire someone and make your money back on advertising
Or poke this crippled fuck to get going and finish it up already
https://twitter.com/fr_brennan?s=09
Why does no one do jack fucking shit anymore youre all lazy bum fucks go consume more

>>77228533
Lsd lasts all day, so does cheap vodka

>>77226552
Canada's legal market is dogshit lol. I knew they'd fuck it up and they did. Thankfully the grey market here is Amazing.

>>77228827
I've never tried LSD but alcohol is worthless. It just makes you dizzy and sleepy. I need drugs where I can get work done. Things like amphetamines and opiates. Those only last for like 5 hours tops.

>>77229072
>Those only last for like 5 hours tops.
>Amphetamines
Have you somehow never heard of vyvanse? Or meth, even?

>>77229086
I've taken 20mg adderall instant release before and they only lasted 4-5 hours. I had to take two a day to get the effect to last all day. Since vyvanse is just a weaker adderall I'm sure it's about the same.

I stay away from meth because you never know how much you are really taking since it's been stepped on so god damn much. Or if it's laced with something else like fent.

>>77229129
>instant release
>only lasted 4-5 hours
No shit, retard.
>Since vyvanse is just a weaker adderall I'm sure it's about the same.
No, vyvanse lasts for 12-14 hours. That's literally the point. Looking at it in terms of being "weaker" than adderall is obviously stupid, since you generally take higher doses of vyvanse than adderall.

>>77229175
>not weaker
>have to take hire dosage
You might be retarded.

And those extended release meds don't work for me. Whatever extended release mechanism they use just makes it too weak to notice.

>>77229301
>>not weaker
>>have to take hire dosage
I didn't claim it wasn't weaker. I said looking at it in terms of being weaker is stupid, because it is. Vyvanse comes in higher doses than adderall does by default, so you have no choice but to take higher doses. How is this so confusing for you?
>And those extended release meds don't work for me.
Vyvanse isn't an extended release medication. It's literally a different drug (Lisdexamfetamine) that your body metabolizes in a different way. Extended release meds like adderall XR just add coatings to the salts so that they stick to your gastro lining and slowly dissolve over a longer period.

buuuuuuuuuump does vyvanse actually feel like its working that long or are you just a zombie for longer ? and do you gain tolerance fast af cause it lasts so long

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Anything I can do to lighten the stimulation of LSD or mescaline? I just hate the uneasy feeling in my teeth and extremitites

>>77230702
benzos usually help. I want to trip again but the body load was really intense, I took a soma which seemed to help. It amazed me how long the stimulation lasted, it was like 15-16 hours until I could get to sleep off a 200ug geltab. It was fun but I was tired and ready to sleep

>>77228417
I really wish i could get my hands on some acid

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I did a present for you frens.
I am currently enjoying some time with mary jane myself.

Has anyone here tried the legal LSD analogs? If so how was it and is it still legally purchasable?

>>77230940
I stocked up when I could, kinda wish I had bought a sheet but I wanted to test the vendor. If I can still find them I'll definitely grab some, it's comfy having hits to last. Unfortunately most the "friends" I bought tabs for have proven they aren't worth it, more solo trips for me

>>77231073
I feel skeptical of using dnm's now that B*hemia butt fucked everyone.

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I think I might take some mushrooms tomorrow, I want to be outside but I don't know anywhere secluded enough for the dose I plan on taking. Been in a funk, a solo trip might help put me in perspective and if I don't I'm just gonna keep putting myself in a benzo haze every night

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It's an extremely paranoia inducing scene and kind of a mess and the markets that last feel like honeypots or scams. I try to get what I can, unfortunately my stash isn't complete and I still have things I want to stock up on. Luckily I can get weed and mushrooms without going DNM, I think I'd lose my mind if I couldn't

>>77231195
It's probably the same group that keeps exist scamming, probably feds that run them all too.

>>77230482
>buuuuuuuuuump does vyvanse actually feel like its working that long
Yup.
>or are you just a zombie for longer ?
Not sure what that means. Stimulants don't make me feel like a zombie.
>and do you gain tolerance fast af cause it lasts so long
No idea, I have never taken it for an extended period of time. I don't know why it would induce tolerance any faster than other amphetamines, though.

>>77231195
>my stash isn't complete and I still have things I want to stock up on
Hoarding quantities of drugs for any extended period of time is a bad idea, for reasons that should probably be obvious. Wouldn't recommend it. Enjoy what you have, and buy more when you want more.

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>>77231243
I think the feds realize they can't ruin every safe supply but of course have to control and monitor it all. We're at the tail end of prohibition but it won't end, maybe the 100 year anniversary of alcohol prohibition will bring change

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Have you ever used drugs with family members?

>>77231503
If a drug isn't going to go bad/expire I don't see any issue, people end up accumulating prescriptions all the time if they have meds they don't end up using. If I had a steady supply I'd do that approach but unfortunately getting useful drugs is only getting harder

>>77231670
my family doesn't even smoke, it's so incredibly depressing. Everyone I know has a sibling or cousin who's actually fun, it's depressing as fuck realizing you're the only one who's not a boring normie fuck in the whole lot

>>77231749
It's not like having a family that does drugs is always a good time. My dad smoked weed and drank all throughout my upbringing and he's an utterly miserable cunt.

>>77231670
gave my bro magic truffles, he had a blast
it's funny when I saw before the trip how stubborn and skeptic he was, disregarding my advice for the set and setting
but after the trip he was glowing and having the "HOLY SHIT YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED BAAAAAAH GAWD I WAS LITERALLY MELTING INTO MY BED WHILE BEING IN 3 PLACES WHEN I CLOSED MY EYES HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS" reaction

>>77231464
Do you feel like, the slight euphoria/good feeling the whole time or just the focus?

I take generic addys and I feel like the come up is ~1hr and is slightly "euphoric", or just good feeling (sometimes). After that, Im slightly more tunnel visioned on everything and can keep interest on one thing for longer. The zombie feeling is like the come down for me, especially if I take another in the afternoon, I am just emotionally and attentively exhausted by night time.

>>77232468
>Do you feel like, the slight euphoria/good feeling the whole time or just the focus?
I feel good the entire time, but that's like with any stimulant I've taken apart from like mdma, which makes me feel sad on the comedown.

As amphetamines wear off I just start to feel more and more tired, but my mood is still generally improved until I fall asleep. If I redose on something like adderall it just postpones the "getting tired" part for another 6 hours.

thinking of making a 420chan replacement, i have a domain
would you guys prefer jschan meguca lynxchan or vichan as a software?

>>77232710
doesnt matter. Do whatever is easiest. If you actually do this and dont get distracted by shit like that you could make some real money

Add me if youre serious DC lastrat_24787

>>77232554
Does Vyvanse or adderall make you sleepy at all when you take it? I know its an Adhd meme but the generic addys literally make my body feel heavy and overall chill. I like taking naps on 10mg
Also I dont mean emotional, I mean Im very flat line after ~10 hours

>>77233009
Nah, I never feel tired on stims. I don't have any trouble getting to sleep when I need to though.

will low dose benzo kill anxiety on stims or just completely kill the stim?

>>77233121
In my experience it will lower anxiety a lot, and only kill the stim a little.

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What are your biggest dont's with psychedelics?
Though I only did mushrooms (for now) the ones I recently discovered is to not go anywhere outside my house (at night, I live in a rural area) and don't watch short-form content while waiting for (in my case mushrooms) to kick in

DO NOT SMOKE WEED

https://youtu.be/pmAA7ZNqlgs

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>>77231670
Kinda wish I could but my mom won'd do anything besides booze and my dad hates all drugs with the exception being alcohol.
I respect it but sometimes I do wish I had irl frens or peoples to do mushrooms with, fortunately I atleast have dogs (that can accompany me).

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I got so much free shit from the dispensaries on 4/20.

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Alcohol + acid turns me into a literal deranged psychopath lol, i feel like a God.

>>77233418
you are God.
reconstruct the world into your vision.

>>77231670
yes my dad made me smoke meth with him when i was 13

>>77231670
my family are pretty straight laced with normal lives but about once a year we all get fucked up on coke and molly and catch up with eachother, its a good dynamic

>>77232710
>>77232976
he should take some meth to make sure he gets it done, put our power of drugs to use

>>77230702
>I just hate the uneasy feeling in my teeth
Holy shit I'm not the only one
I've heard Phenibut works well, benzos and anti-psychotics will kill the trip.

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>>77228417
>seller STILL hasn't shipped my carts
AAAGGHHHH

Does anyone here smoke heroin? How does it compare to say eating oxys or codeine or morphine tablets (how it feels and length of action)?
I've looked online and I can't figure out how long it lasts, some have said it lasts 30 minutes then tapers off others said they felt a lot for hours after.

>>77234707
How do you vet cart vendors? Seems like most is garbo

About to walk.
The dreams are returning.
Been better been worse.
Let's see what we can do.
>>77233249
-Tripping in a dirty (messy is fine but you can't be having plates or lots of dust etc around) space
-Hanging around IMs like Disc or Tele etc
-Tripping while overly concerned about an immediate event in the future
>>77233121
Depends on stim. Serotonergic stims get killed a lot harder than Dopaminergic ones.
i.e

Coke
Mephedrone
Molly
That sorta thing

>>77232710
Aren't they making one already?
Either way. Don't fall for the usual tricks.
Don't have sound. Don't have multiple uploads. Keep it sleek and fast. Don't rape your bandwidth or encourage people to dump BS content.
>>77231024
Had 1P-LSD. Pretty much acid but a bit stimmier. Legality depends on location. Very few substances are made internationally illegal. Most recently was Diclazepam (rest in power, King) and some others. I think they routinely scoop up new Spice variants but otherwise it's down to local/chinese/Dutch ordenance.

>>77231195
There's a really good dnm with beginning with A that I can't say here or I'll get shoah'd. At least they actually encourage people to use pgp so I don't see how you can get fucked over since if your opsec is good and you're not ordering metric tonnes of drugs to your house internationally you should be fine since even the site shouldn't have data on you.

>>77234800
I don't desu, I play lottery until I find something that hits fine

>>77234826
The one time i ordered carts i thought i was ordering an actual brand that real dispensaries in legal states would sell, but then i found that you can just order that card brand and fill it with whatever you want. So that kind of turned me off to them this was when kids were getting seriously ill from smoking bad carts. I then would just stick to flower but i don't smoke anymore or do any drug anymore, but i do feel nostalgic for it ngl.. im trying to do the "le self improvement" thing but ive come to the conclusion ill always be a depressed loser. Might as well just start doing drugs and smoking weed again.

>>77234801
How much 1p-lsd did you drop? Are the dosage effects roughly the same

I'm geeked out of my fucking gourd guys

Attempting to make korean pork belly stew from scratch, about to make either a passion fruit liquor/tonic water or a vodka/grapefruit sparkling water. I can't decide which one to make first because they both sound so good.

I thrive in the spring time. Found my second or third four leaf clover the other day. I'm pressing it in a book right now. The plant I started growing hasn't died yet even though it looks fucked. It is what it is; I'll try again.

I'm sending positive vibes everyone's way; let's have a good Monday eyyyyy

>>77235075
Glad you're having fun, What are you on?

>>77235090
Weed and life to be frank; life has been wild these past couple of months and now that I'm in my element, I'm just feeling way better. Also got outside more now that it isn't freezing out

I'm going to be honest, I took an edible during the solar eclipse and witnessed the whole thing. Ever since then, it feels like something has shifted. I felt the same way after the meteor shower a few months ago.

>>77228533
you need meth. lots of meth.
>>77228571
a lot more than this guy.

>>77229129
>Or if it's laced with something else like fent.
you mean you don't have test strips?
how broke, stupid and/or careless are you?
I AM ORDERING YOU TO BUY TEST STRIPS
https://dancesafe.org/fentanyl/
YOU WILL LEARN HOW TO USE THEM
https://dancesafe.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/DS_Fentanyl-Strip-Instructions_V16_Fall23.pdf
FRENS DO NOT LET FRENS TAKE FENTANYL

>>77233660
i'm afraid to ask, but what happened after that...

>>77235816
>FRENS DO NOT LET FRENS TAKE FENTANYL
or clean up the drug supply

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-committee-finds-china-is-subsidizing-american-fentanyl-crisis-2024-04-16/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-committee-finds-china-is-subsidizing-american-fentanyl-crisis-2024-04-16/
Rumao I remember when this was considered a conspiracy theorxy.

>>77236066
>US committee finds
lol

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>>77228417
Why are there a bunch of fucking meth heads in these threads? motherfuckers being looking like this posting in this thread

>>77236087
Fentanyl is primarily manufactured in China and shipped here.

>>77236218
tina is my wife. apologize,

>>77229129
I've heard meth isn't stepped on much. After all it comes in crystal form.

I'm so envious that have their life improved by meth. The substance just doesn't seem to work on me.

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found some methamphetamine advertisements from back in the day

I just got 3 ounces of some narco dope, might as well try to sell it

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more ancient ads

Are there any ways to reset your tolerance to weed faster

>>77236717
Do DXM or some other dissociative so for a few days you don't have any cravings and time seems to fly by.

>>77236717
find something else to waste your money on distract yourself with something less stupid for a while

>>77236717
Exercise, basically anything that burns lots of fat. Also drinking water.

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Best benzo ever. 3-5mg and a beer or a drink is pure bliss/amazing sleep

how to get the motivation to do anything but browse 4chan and watch porn? Been doing this for years now and I just can't handle my laziness.

>>77237176
Adderall, Methylophenidate, Selegiline/Rasagiline or bupropion if cant get those

>>77237193
I understand the first two, but do you really think the last three would do anything for laziness?

>>77237255
Selegiline in a certain dose is a very potent MAO-B inhibitor. Your really pretty pumped up/hypersexual on it. Like very energetic

>>77237176
10mg oral dose of meth daily when you wake up

Recently I had a urine screening and they found meth in the urine of course but they also found Buprenorphine which I definitely never took. Anybody have an idea why meth would be cut with bup?

>>77228417
has anyone here ever tried 'chocolate speed base' or know what it is? some came up i might try it

>>77237378
You mean Panzerschokolade from WWII?

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Going to try and pick up some weed this coming Friday and I'm already getting social anxiety since I haven't bought drugs in a long time. Do you guys tip at dispensaries or just pay for your shit and leave?

>>77237804
>tipping your narcotics dealer

>>77238799
Yeah I know it's just weird that they have tip jars. I just want to get my shit pay and leave it always feels awkward once they hand me my cash back.

>>77238804
Jesus, you Americans are weird

I just want to get on meth. Is this too much to ask?

>>77234762
smoked and snorted it a few times
Feels similar to oxys, euphoric and warm.
Blows codeine out of the water.
Lasts multiple hours

how do i properly use a whippit?
i got one of these things https://culinary.isi.com/en-GB/culinary/product/gourmet-whip-1l
its pure n20

I don't feel euphoria from opiates, which probably sounds bad and it is, but there's an upside
there's like 0 chance of me becoming addicted and opiates still act as ridiculously strong anti-panic attack medication, of which I suffer from panic attacks atleast once a fortnight

kino

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post your drug tier lists bruders

>S tier
psilocybin
amphetamine

>A tier
cannabis (o' reliable)
DMT
cocaine (would be S tier if it wasn't ridiculously expensive and dangerous)

>B tier
ketamine
nicotine

>C tier
LSD (makes me insanely anxious no matter the set or setting)
benzo presses (nice if I'm feeling stressed but otherwise they just make me feel too retarded to do anything fun)
alcohol (only fun if I'm being forced to talk to people I don't like)

>D tier
all opiates not otherwise mentioned (I'm immune to opiate euphoria)

>F tier
oxy presses (99% sure they gave me brain damage with I was a new drug user and now I can't feel as much pleasure)

>U tier (I will never Use tier)
Meth (I know I'd like it too much)
Crack (sounds awful from everything I've heard)

>W tier (I Want to try tier)
salvia (I've memed myself into thinking it's cool after reading a trillion trip reports)
mescaline
MDMA (only once I find a partner who likes drugs)
2CB

>>77240618
do they still suppress pain on you

>>77240861
yes they do
I guess there is a chance that I'll get addicted if I ever JUST my shit up

>>77240892
do you feel euphoria from stims?

Opinions on DMT carts?

How bad is rebound anxiety and compulsive redosing from benzos, especially compared to alcohol?
I would imagine someone like me would end up struggling with both, as demonstrated with my alcohol experience
Maybe there is something similar like L-Theanine out there that also doesnt have the potential to fuck you up as hard as benzos can?

i just bought 1000mg of tramadol and am eyeballing my dosage
oh and a single beer while the tram kicks in

the only thing i dont like about trama is that cigarettes make me so nauseous but at least i save the cigs for when i come down from the opi

>>77229175
How bad is the comedown from vyvanse? Are you able to sleep normally once it wears off?
How does it compare to caffeine, can you get anxiety from it too? I cant even handle caffeine anymore, just 2 days ago I took 3x50mg which is a total joke compared to years ago when I could have multiple strong coffees without any anxiety whatsoever
Why do the two most popular and socially accepted drugs have to be so gross and destructive
Or rather, why am I born with this cursed neurochemistry making me unable to handle them longterm... fuck this gay earth

>>77228827
Dont understand how people are able to daydrink, my "true" buzz lasts for 1-2 hours tops, and I crash hard 4-5 hours in at which point having more just makes me feel poisoned

>>77241129
>How bad is the comedown from vyvanse? Are you able to sleep normally once it wears off?
It's fine for me, but I can sleep fine after basically any stimulant. The comedown only makes me feel tired.
>How does it compare to caffeine, can you get anxiety from it too?
It's significantly stronger than caffeine, and yes it can cause anxiety. For me it only causes very mild anxiety sometimes. Caffeine hardly causes any.

How is it possible to separate safely the DXM with citric acid from amonia and lighter fluid using freezer bags? What if someone accidentally mixes in either amonia or lighter fluid with holes in the bag, is it possible to separate these out further more prior to pouring?

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I love how quickly time passes on benzos. Imagine waking up and forgetting the last 3 decades, shit would be so cash

>>77242095
welp that probably is the last nail in the coffin of my benzo venture

Does anyone else think less is more with cocaine? Small to medium sized lines have a nice effect on me, I feel energized and in a good mood, but whenever I do a big line, as weird as that sounds, I feel kind of bored and don't really wanna do anything

>>77242142
I was exaggerating but it does help time fly by, some days I'm just ready for it to be over. Benzos are amazing if you don't overdo them, if you're in a situation you want to be done with they can really do wonders

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>>77239060
how are you not able to obtain meth? no, seriously, either something is very wrong with you, or something is very right with where you live.

>>77240786
my problem with acid is that it lasts too fucking long. you literally can't take it in the evening, you'll be up all night tweaking feeling like hell on earth because you can't sleep. psilocybin at lower doses like 1-3 grams is a good 4 hour experience tops so you'll crash eventually, LSD on a bad trip literally feels like you're trapped in a time loop because time is already slowed on psychedelics and acid lasts a LONG time even by regular standards.

>>77240786
>S tier
Lsd, ketty
>A tier
Mescaline, shrooms
>B tier
Dmt, alcohol, 2cb
>shit tier
Kratom, no2
>want to try
Weed, mda/mdma, salvia, maybe coke

>>77235075
I'm back for day 2, boyos; got a peanut butter strain and a small dab (like 1/2 the size of a single uncooked lentil) of biscotti in a cherry kingpalm

Tastes like I'm smoking a pb&j sandwich

My korean stew came out immaculate; going to be making a second batch TONIGHT

Just going to keep spreading the positive energy; get out today, it's BEAUTIFUL

>>77240786
>S tier
MDMA (my favorite drug)
amphetamine

>A tier
LSD (most euphoria inducing drug right after MDMA)
Ketamine

>B Tier
Cocaine
Nitrous Oxide (fun but lasts way too short)

>C Tier
2-CB (only gives me very slight euphoria, too expensive for what it does)
Weed (used to smoke it a lot but now I only do so every few months and it's become kinda boring)
HHC (lasts shorter than weed and builds tolerance pretty fast)
Psilocybin

>Shit tier
Alcohol (quit drinking a year ago because I started liking it less and less and now I hate it, I hate the feeling of being drunk and it makes me tired)
Benzos (no subjective effects except I blackout when I do too much)
Opiates (no effects except itchiness)
Nicotine (I like smoking but I dislike the feeling in my head nicotine gives me, it's a weird lethargic feeling that lasts 5 minutes)

>wanna try
MDA, 4MMC or 3MMC, DMT

Inspired from >>77240786, rate drug combinations you have tried

>MDMA + LSD
Most euphoria I've ever felt in my life. By far the best drug combination

>MDMA + 2-CB
Not as good as MDMA + LSD but still very euphoric, also gives you some insane visuals

>MDMA + Weed
Kinda meh, the MDMA comeup makes you sober up a lot from the weed and after that the comfy feeling of the MDMA is just enhanced a bit, this combo also makes you extremely retarded while on it. At least it makes waiting for the MDMA to kick in less boring.

>MDMA + alcohol
No point in doing it, you don't feel the alcohol on MDMA, it fucks with your memory a lot and the combo dehydrates you even more than either alone which is potentially dangerous

>MDMA + Cocaine
Also no point in doing it. The coke just makes you stop rolling after it kicks in and then the roll doesn't come back when it stops working except if you redose on MDMA. Complete waste.

>MDMA + Ketamine
Didn't like it that much, felt like it weakened my roll and the K high was weaker than usual as well.

>2-CB + Ketamine
Fun but made me pretty disoriented, the sedated feeling of laying down with your eyes closed on K was accompanied with nice closed eye visuals

>Ketamine and Psylocibin
Has a nice synergy, took it after the shroom peak and the ket made the trip stronger again, I feel like the psylocibin also made the Ket stronger somehow because I was dissociating harder than usual, forgetting how I got where I was and firgetting what I wanted to do right after standing up to go do it

>Ketamine and Alcohol
Bad combo, doesn't synergize well and increases nausea

>Ketamine and Weed
Great Synergy, I love it, dissociating on Ket while being high on weed feels very warm and comfy, the weed makes the Ket stronger

>Weed and LSD
Fun, enhances the LSD positively in every way and makes the Trip stronger again if you're doing it after the peak

>Weed + Alcohol
Good if you smoke the weed first, otherwise horrible, dizziness and nausea inducing

(1/2)

>>77244214
how have you not tried weed

>>77237176
Mushrooms helped me with that, but I don't know why. My trip had nothing to do with my addictions but once it was over I just didn't feel like being a porn/internet addict anymore, just like that.

>>77244862
Ya i was about to say, he skipped weed and went straight for the harder stuff

>>77244859
(2/2)
>Alcohol + Benzos
I only have experience taking the benzo first, it makes a beer feel like 3 and seems to increase the dopamine release of the alcohol. Very dangerous though.

>Alcohol + Amphetamines
The amphetamine makes you instantly sober from the alcohol so it's kind of a waste of booze, but it's practical of course if you use it for that purpose

>Alcohol + Cocaine
Very fun, at first the coke doesn't sober you up completely like amphetamine does, only with repeated dosing and even then there's some synergy. The combo makes the coke stronger and more euphoric so I like it.

>Cocaine + Weed
It's ok. You feel the weed a bit less, otherwise it's just both at the same time

>amphetamine + weed
Makes you able to basically smoke infinite weed. Nice combo but you're gonna waste a lot of weed because it won't hit anywhere near as hard and you sober up so quickly from it

>amphetamine + Ketamine
Very fun combo, makes you able to do more ket without falling into a K hole, the dopamine kick during the K high is very nice. You can kind of balance them out, but beware not to overdo it with one of them and then constantly take the other one to cancel the one you took before out, like I did when I tried this the first time, lol

>Alcohol + Nicotine
Won't feel the nicotine, but Smoking while drunk is somehow so good

>Nicotine + Stims
Same thing, won't feel the nicotine and smoking on stims feels satisfying

>Nicotine + MDMA
Somehow the one I don't like, smoking on MDMA tastes bad and makes me nauseous

Combinations I wanna try:
Weed + 2CB, LSD + 2CB + MDMA, LSD + Ketamine

>it's down
it's over

Smoking weed instead of doing things with my life kms

how much fent to do I need to take to kill myself

Has anyone ever succeeded in quitting coke and still being able to get buzzed from alcohol every now and then?

>>77244862
I was a shut in during high school and started a career that gets drug tested afterward

>>77244587
tastes suited to a complete faggot, imagine being so smooth brained you can't enjoy opiates or benzos. Probably a zoomer, I bet you boof too

>>77245136
do you have a tolerance? Look up bioavailability, keep in mind you're probably not getting medical quality fent but street garbage cooked up under a tarp

>>77245466
>imagine being so smooth brained you can't enjoy opiates or benzos
Not my fault they don't work on me nigger

>I bet you boof too
Do people even do this unironically?

>>77245466
>I bet you boof too
Why call others zoomers when you're retarded or underage yourself?
>>77245713
>do people use a roa that usually offers the best bioavailability after iv and im while also being the safest?
Gee, anon. I wonder whether they do.

I want to do mushrooms but I can't go outside at night because it's dark, wat do drugfeel

>>77246029
Take em during a full moon.

Your pupils should get big enough you can see a bit better.

>>77246029
Grow your own cow patty shrooms.

>stop smoking weed for months
>start again
>completely functional stoner
>increase smoking habits
>sleeping for 12 hrs a day
and the cycle repeats. fuck thisss

>>77246052
Today's a full moon so I decided I will
It's cloudy so no going outside but I'll just watch some trippy videos instead :D
be back when they kick in

>>77246120
How much did you take?

Also some vidya games are fun on shroomies. I played Abzu last time I had em and it was magical.

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>vendor STILL hasn't shipped my carts
these people act like they're actually busy, fucking hurry

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>>77246131
I think around 2-3? I used a scale meant for cooking so I give it that estimate, though I'm also taking melmacs so I know I'm In for a hell of a good time :p

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>>77246179
The hell is melmacs?

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>>77246230
A strain of mushrooms that are pretty darn powerful, or so I heard

>>77246261
Anyways, cleaned up my room a bit, got my pokemon plushies, all is good :3

>>77246261
Ahh ok. My uncle used to grow a bunch, some standard strains, but I remember one called planks or plancs. It might have been short for something, I haven't been able to find any info online, but lemme tell you about these biches.

Once the trip got rolling I truly understood what it felt like to have lower brain function. I honestly felt retarded. We got stuck in loops, couldn't get a lighter bowl and weed together long enough to pack one and smoke it, and had periods where we just kinda stared at the wall and floor and couldn't comprehend anything. Like there were 0 thoughts running through my head, but not in the peaceful zen way. Like I really couldn't understand what was right infront of me. If you charted my brainwaves out it woulda been a mobile loading icon with the circle spinning around.

Wild times.

Arright It's kickin in
Got my trip music and I have a nice setting so all should be good :D

>>77246422
Holy shit i found it after years, apparently its "Palenque". Our Spanish pronunciation in NE US isn't that great lmao.

>>77246486
Ayy! I got an anon to learn something cool, yay!!

>>77234762
Yea man, smoking heroin absolutely ruins your lungs and the high is weaker than snorting. I prefer to smoke and snort personally. In terms of your question, it goes for roughly 1-2 hours depending on your dosage, strength etc shit like that I guess it's because time flies on hard drugs.

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spent the night drinking and burning through the little coke i had so i bought another bag and now i'm going through 1g of coke for the night slightly drunk and im bored at home, any ideas on what i can do to keep myself entertained?

>>77246598
play sim city 4.

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How you doing /drugfeel/
>some valium and beer down the hatch
Time to get comfy tonight

gonna try jacking off on mushroomos!!!ll!!l!

>>77245452
>drug testing incentivizes people to use hard drugs instead of weed so they can piss out the drugs by monday
We live in a clown world.

>>77246015
>while also being the safest
Anon, boofing bypasses the liver. You know what the liver does, don't you? It filters poisons out of your blood stream. It's kind of important that it does its job, especially when you're taking in weird chemicals from cartel labs.

>>77245466
>imagine being so smooth brained you can't enjoy opiates or benzos.
I dunno about opiates, but benzos are some of the most boring drugs on planet earth. They only really do anything if you're already a quivering faggot who can't relax.

>>77246821
>it bypasses the liver so you should smoke it and ruin your lungs instead (still bypasses liver)
>it bypasses the liver so it'd be better to completely destroy the insides of your nose instead (still bypasses the liver)
I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Rectal administration of drugs is relatively harmless.
>inb4 "take it orally!"
A lot of substances have incredibly poor bioavailability when taken orally and it thus often isn't a viable roa.

>>77246932
Orally is the only way anyone should take drugs. If you need to boof it to avoid smoking/snorting/IV, then don't do that drug. Simple stuff.

>>77246721
toohardd, im sinanely fucking horny and i CANTTTTTTTTTTTT
captchas hard to wutabich

>>77247063
Very weird take that I think you will grow out of.

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Planning on dipping my toe into RC dissos, my only experience thus far has been with DXM. Which of these should I try first?
>DMXE
>3-ho-pcp
>DCK
>2fdck
>FXE
Not really a party person, will probably just use them on my own or with a couple friends.

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helpmeidks, itooktomuchewwerewew ew helpmegotosleep.

U'll continue off of this, I am never doing drugs again holy shit I died like a million times, I finally have my thoughts? ah fuck still dying brb

>>77228417
Does 17 beers on a Tuesday night count as /drugfeel/?
>What if I've also been heavily dabbing?

>>77247984
You should let me know where it is you're getting DMXE. Unless you're European, then I know already.

>>77232554
>>77233027
how much do you dose?

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Snorting heroin at night hits different.

>>77248191
You good bro?

>be against legalization
>try weed anyway because i'm a moody hypocrite faggot
>besides the novelty value the first few times it just makes me unfocused without being that relaxing
>smoke a lot, end up lying in bed watching dumbass shit because i'm too fucked up to do anything
>''wtf is this it?''
i'm all for legalizing it. its not worth the fucking fuzz its getting. stupid teens are doing it anyway and the difference is that they now rub shoulders with bad dudes who can get worse shit as well when they already broke the law getting high on fuckn weed.

>>77249319
I am now, that was a heroic dose, and that was a bad trip.

>>77249322
>>77249322
jesus fuck , get help man

>>77249322
2-3gs? Maybe your scale was off lmao.

Drink some water and eat some fruit n such n chill though yer bee aight. Unlucky it went south though.

>>77249343
Don't listen to this guy he's just messing with you.

>>77249320
Honestly true, weed is overrated as fuck. It just gives me massive anxiety which is weird because I can handle shrooms and acid fine.

Should I buy the kratom pill at my local gas station? Anyone ever do that, and how did it go?

Finally home alone and gonna clean the entire house tomorrow before my largest dose mushroom trip yet. Might be close to an eighth? I've done 2.5 before. What I am in for?

>>77249990
Anything I bought from a gasoline station was not worth it and motivated me to find better drugs.

>>77249995
I wouldn't recommend it, but if you're going to do a high dose of any drug, shrooms is the way to go. I once did around 5g of shrooms once and while it wasn't necessarily a bad experience it also wasn't very pleasant. Strap in and prepare to have some intense closed eye and open eye visuals for the next 6 hours or so basically.

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lonely depressed and want someone to talk to, someone add me on discord please.
cold2117

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woke up inexplicably at 3:40 AM today. took some kratom for first time after a decent tolerance break and now I'm feeling great

I feel sorry for the niggas who live where its illegal. This stuff is a blessing for robots.

>>77246015
IV is for real chads, boofing is for faggots who can't handle it and need safety to hide their faggotry

>>77240786
>>D tier
>all opiates not otherwise mentioned (I'm immune to opiate euphoria)

I feel bad for those who can not enjoy the sweet nectar of the gods.

>>77249320
It's not for everybody but weed is trendy and the legalization debacle ensures it will remain "rebellious" and cool for a few more years at the very least. Most drugs are incredibly overhyped, it boils down to what your brain enjoys but I think many people just smoke to fit in or seem cool

Gonna list every drug I've tried.

>opiates:

Codeine, tramadol, suboxone, methadone, morphine, oxycodone, opium/poppies

>benzos/gaba drugs:

Clonazepam, diazepam, temazepam, lorazepam, alprazolam, triazolam, gabapentin, phenibut, pregablin, zopiclone

>psych drugs

LSD, 25i-nBome, shrooms, mescaline, DMT, Salvia, amanita muscaria, DXM, DPH, weed hash oil etc

>stimulants

Meth, speed, Ritalin, MDMA, bzp, 5-MAPB

>inhalants

Amyls, duster, ether, nitrous

>various random stuff

Kava, like 20+ spice products, betelnut, bunch of other random plants that do nothing (Damiana etc)

>lessons learned:

Most drugs are gay and/or cringe and their comedowns/side effects/addiction issues FAR exceed their benefits. I dont even take drugs anymore not even caffeine.

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>>77248368
We've always been welcoming to alcobros.

Anyone heard of/tried the purple superman ecstasy pills?

>>77250215
Kratom has become my favorite drug, I don't even mind the taste anymore lol. Even if it's illegal where I live, it's such a low key drug I have no problem getting at a decent price and quality.

Tried valium for the first time today, felt kinda nice, definitely noticed feeling less anxious heading into a class I was unprepared for, and more detached while at work, but honestly the effect was pretty mild. Went home and munched down on 175mg of immediate release tapentadol and starting using my foreskin stretching rings that arrived in the mail today. Life is good.

I been usin weed for around 2 years now and I still laugh and act goofy and stay stupid shit when I take a large enough dose, do I have a natural low tolerance

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Listing your tried drugs list is rebbit behavior, it's easier to list what I haven't tried at this point and most of them are only due to difficulty sourcing legitimate. Shout out to the druganons who want to try everything, hopefully some day we will be able to sample the pharmacalogical rainbow without all the hoops and annoyances of drug scenes and black markets

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Guys i think i might be schizophrenic.
Smoking weed makes me somewhat paranoid.
I always start imagining voices in my head. They talk to me and i am not sure if it is just my imagination or if they just come like that.

I know i should stop but i don't see the point in stopping. Life is just unbearable without drugs.

>>77250667
>Most drugs are gay and/or cringe
This. They're all lame and overhyped and the few who aren't like MDMA are not worth the comedown. Thought LSD would make you have crazy, realistic hallucinations but it's just colors seeming more intense and some faint patterns in your vision. Thought cocaine was this crazy, incredibly euphoric drug but it's just basically a coffee that puts you in a not too extreme good mood. Even alcohol is not worth the danger, harm to your body and hangover for the shitty high. Speed is not worth not being able to sleep for 8 hours just to feel tingly and energized for an hour. Weed is lame and makes you retarded to the point it's annoying to even yourself. Drugs are all not worth it.

>>77243894
>my problem with acid is that it lasts too fucking long.
ain't it the truth. an old friend of mine once warned me, "you'll be done with LSD before LSD is done with you." that eleventh hour of an acid trip feels more mentally exhausting than it feels after writing an exam.

>>77240786
>S tier
Opioids
>A tier
Weed, Psilocybin
>B tier
MDMA,Crack,Ketamine
>C Tier
Cocaine, Amphetamine,Alcohol,LSA
>D tier
DXM, Benzos

For Opioids alone:
>SS Tier
Heroin
>S Tier
Oxies, tillidin, Hydromorph
>A Tier
Tramadol
>B Tier
Kratom
>C Tier
Opium
>D Tier
Codeine

>>77251576
based and truthpilled
I wanna try everything.

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Any way to extend a mushroom trip? Can you redose 1hr or eat something before to slow digestion? I'll do 2gs on an empty stomach, the come up is crazy and the trip lasts ~3hrs

>>77252513
look into MAOIs stops your body from breaking down the psilocybin, careful they can actually kill you really easy in small amounts mixed with mushies or other psychs

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I feel 4MMC might become a problem for me bros, it's just too pleasurable.

>>77250220
Great LARP. If you IV'd you'd very quickly get over the mental barrier of boofing to get your fix when you can't find any veins. Post a picture of a timestamp plus some needles?

>it's back up
im tempted, but i know i shouldn't, but i really want to, but i know what happens when i do, maybe i will, maybe things will be different this time... unlike all the other times.

>>77253036
it has no use anon

the only way to stop doing it is to throw everything away, cut all drug related contacts and have a iron will.
In other words: it's impossible

>>77253005
alas I haven't IVed in years, if I could find something worth IVing that isn't street garbage I would gladly accept the challenge. I must ask, how exactly does boofing alone work? Gravity and positioning seem difficult and not being able to see what you're doing has to make you wonder if you did it right or not

>>77228439
Any QRD on how 420c ended? When I last visited Kirt was clearly losing his mind and there was so much drama, which is why I left.

>>77253531
It's much easier than IVing. You do it standing up and you just stick the syringe 3 to 4 centimeters inside. No spilling or whatever. You can do it very quickly and blind if you know where to grab the syringe. I know at which marking to hold and push it in as as far as possible. It's very consistent.

If you've IV'ed you know how small (oral) syringes are and it's only like 3cm. You're not going to feel it and you won't even need lube either. You're stretching your insides more when you go to the toilet.

>>77253595
kirt hacked and doxxed the trucker convoy and then bragged about it. he either got v&, or he was beaten to death after being recognized at a truck stop while trying to get some drugs and dicks.

>>77247678
>Very weird take
There's nothing weird about quitting smoking or not shoving drugs up you ass.
>you will grow out of.
No, in fact: I grew into it. As you get older you start to value your health more.

>>77249320
>>be against legalization
>i'm all for legalizing it
???

>>77253765
If you valued your health you wouldn't take street drugs period. It's such a weird arbitrary rule to have. "It needs to pass the liver!!" sounds like the type of thing a juvenile person that's exploring drugs would think up and slowly grow out of as he realizes how stupid the distinction is. It sounds like cope for someone that's still kind of scared of using substances. Something to make them feel like they're still doing it somewhat safely.

There is no harm reduction agency that gives the "take it orally, your liver will save you" advice.
>inb4 "you shouldn't take street drugs in the first place!"
Your initial argument was that boofing was dangerous due to the cuts and that you should thus take it through different means (rather than not take it at all).

There should be amphetamine dispensaries like weed and they just limit your buying limit. Its not bad enough to keep behind a prescription

>>77253911
>If you valued your health you wouldn't take street drugs period. It's such a weird arbitrary rule to have.
This is nonsense, obviously. Harm reduction is extremely important when it comes to consuming any drugs. The idea that it's either all or nothing is a logical fallacy known as "black and white thinking".
>"It needs to pass the liver!!" sounds like the type of thing a juvenile person that's exploring drugs would think up and slowly grow out of as he realizes how stupid the distinction is.
What is juvenile about acknowledging the liver's function, and the belief that it should be allowed to perform that function in order to reduce harm? All of this is objectively true.
>There is no harm reduction agency that gives the "take it orally, your liver will save you" advice.
This is also wrong. Harm reduction agencies very frequently talk about the dangers of smoking and IV use. Why are you making up easily disprovable lies?

>>77254028
This. They should sell it as pills though so retards don't get addicted as easily. But I agree it's not dangerous enough to be illegal.

>>77254028
there should be dispensaries that allow any kind of drug to be bought, if someone wants to take it let them. The only reason alcohol gets special status is it has social history, also people can point to prohibition as a failure. People put too much faith in doctors, in this day and age there's no excuse for not looking up a drug yourself and learning about it before taking said drug. Imagine using a drug and believing it should be restricted/banned, the pure cognitive dissonance or the reality when you lose your only source never seem to factor in

>>77228417
Can you boof ketamine? I can't snort it because my nose is all fucked up desu

>>77254314
I would only agree with this if public education had actualy drug education classes. And went into detail about like detoxing, withdrawals. Like an actual drug education class. That could get the human race to evolve rapidly intellectually, or destroy the planet, either or.

>>77254410
That would require funding public schools, which we all know is taboo in USA.

>>77254410
agreed, as someone who always researched drugs before trying I wish others would at least put in basic research. Now that the street supply has become tainted you can't fully trust anything, pharma used to be a gold standard but now pressed pills are everywhere and people will sell presses at pharma prices. They are teaching kids about fentanyl and narcan administration, eventually they're going to admit controlled doses of pure product beats whatever synthetic was cooked up in a dirt patch in rural Mexico

>>77254233
>The idea that it's either all or nothing is a logical fallacy known as "black and white thinking"
That's not what I'm saying. Drawing the line at a random spot is dumb. You're going 99% of the way, but that last 1% is suddenly something that you get incredibly anal about. There is no good reason for that. If you cared about your health you wouldn't use street drugs - you'd stop at 50% or whatever. The difference between having a substance do a first pass through the liver or not is negligible.
> Harm reduction agencies very frequently talk about the dangers of smoking and IV use
How convenient that you're leaving out boofing, the roa we were talking about. Is that because you know that these same agencies would advice people to boof simply because it's a relatively harmless roa? Plenty of substances don't work well when taken orally and these agencies will tell people to boof. You won't hear your "find a different drug that you can take orally, dude. Think of your health!" argument.
>>77254337
Yes, it works great.

>>77254514
>Drawing the line at a random spot is dumb.
It's not a random spot. I've already explained in exceedingly clear terms why the liver is important.
>How convenient that you're leaving out boofing
Boofing is a new phenomenon, so it's not quite as thoroughly covered as IV and smoking, but a quick google search shows me that plenty of harm reduction agencies are indeed talking about it.

>>77254480
It's not taboo, it's that all the attention gets focused on niglets who don't/can't learn in the first place. It ends up becoming a slush fund for bureaucrats and whoever can siphon money, even if spent on what it was meant for it would be wasted. Apparently they still even have DARE, somehow that shit gets funded without even teaching proper information about drugs

>>77254556
>It's not taboo, it's that all the attention gets focused on niglets who don't/can't learn in the first place.
This isn't correct. Public schools in black areas receive less public funding than public schools in white areas.

>>77254514
>You're going 99% of the way, but that last 1% is suddenly something that you get incredibly anal about
Where did you get these numbers, btw? Did you just make them up?

>>77253775
yeah i used to be against it but now i'm for it after seeing how much fuzz is kicked up over nothing.
cops show up in military gear and break down doors. people here have plantations worth hundreds of thousands and risk long prison spans. all over a plant that makes you stupid for a few hours. whole thing is dumb.

>>77254555
>I've already explained in exceedingly clear terms why the liver is important.
No, you've said that it does a first pass of the liver when taken orally (not as if it doesn't pass the liver if it enters the bloodstream elsewhere). Nowhere have you proven that this difference is a game changer. Because you're so well versed on this topic I'd like you to cite your sources; find me a paper that demonstrates that the overal harm of substance use is reduced by a sizable amount (read: big enough to make taking it into consideration worthwhile) due to this first pass. If there was you wouldn't be literally the only person arguing this.
>>77254593
>sees 99%, 1%, and 50% and doesn't understand that they're placeholders to demonstrate a point (i.e. "the difference in harm is not going to be big and pale in comparison to the difference between pharma and non-pharma")

>>77254569
They receive funding based on municipality. White schools tend to be more community based and the money is spent on the kids, plus they have parents who are active in education. A White district with community values will fund school shit themselves if needbe. blacks tend to live in the city, they'll get thrown money from larger agencies but it ends up grifted by the various locals and bureaucrats. There really isn't a huge amount of interest in learning from blacks, it's not a value they are taught and often it will be seen a "White" to speak well, be educated, learn, read, etc. It's a real shame for the few smart ones that get stuck in the hood, they're easy targets and easily overlooked by a massively overcrowded system that can barely even pass its students

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>>77228417
i bought some lil gummies and theyre gonna arrive in time for the weekend
ive never done weed before wat should i expect

>>77254719
>They receive funding based on municipality.
Yes, that's what I wrote.

>>77254698
>Nowhere have you proven that this difference is a game changer.
While there isn't much data pertaining to enema of illicit substances, we know for a fact that alcohol enemas cause blood poisoning at a significantly higher rate than oral consumption. It also introduces damage to the rectal lining (tears, abscesses, ulcers, etc.), and an increased risk of disease transmission. Yes, you can contract HIV by sharing an anal syringe.

Substances taken through the rectal lining will eventually reach the liver, but will lack the normal digestion enzymes that break down substances during normal delivery.

These are all essentially the same sort of problems that come with IV use, and are reasonable to be concerned about. I'm not sure what you mean by "game changer".
>If there was you wouldn't be literally the only person arguing this.
I'm not the only one arguing this, you just only pay attention to literature that you agree with. All of this information is easily discovered in 3 second internet searches.
>>sees 99%, 1%, and 50% and doesn't understand that they're placeholders to demonstrate a point
So you made the numbers up. That's pretty much what I expected.

>>77255090
>It also introduces damage to the rectal lining (tears, abscesses, ulcers, etc.),
Your stomach is a magic box (it isn't, stomach lining also gets damaged). Not related to the liver, by the way.
>Yes, you can contract HIV by sharing an anal syringe.
Man, now you're reaching. This has nothing to do with the liver nor does it have anything to do with boofing. Just don't share syringes. It's very simple. This is not a real risk of the roa itself. You can take your oral drugs with a swig of bleach too - is that now a risk of oral admission?
>These are all essentially the same sort of problems that come with IV use
Good lord. Now you're comparing boofing to IV. Can you phone up all these harm reduction agencies that are trying to switch people to booty bumping? You've got some incredible news for them.
>I'm not the only one arguing this
Give me one credible source that says that you should avoid using drugs that you can't take orally, and that oral drugs are fine. Also give me one source that states that boofing is much more harmful than other roa's.
>So you made the numbers up.
You literally made up an entire argument about a first pass through the liver being much less harmful and then dropped it for three other dumb arguments when pressed for evidence, and you complain about me making a clear demonstrative comparison with placeholders? The fact that you're complaining about those numbers not existing should tell you enough; there is nothing that backs up your argument of it being noticably safer. You're literally making up the same numbers, but presenting them as truth rather than to make a point.

You went from replying within ten minutes to replying in half an hour because you had to Google to find something to clasp on. Man, just admit that there is no proof that first pass reduces total harm by a meaningful amount already.

>>77255214
>Your stomach is a magic box (it isn't, stomach lining also gets damaged).
I haven't claimed otherwise. The fact remains that the stomach tends to be good at breaking down dangerous elements, while the rectum tends to not be.
>Not related to the liver, by the way.
Metabolization works in synchronicity. The stomach prepares substances for the liver. IV use is somewhat of a biological "hack", which is why it tends to be best used in very controlled medical settings.
>This is not a real risk of the roa itself.
Of course it is. People who boof are more likely to contract disease via boofing than oral users are to contract disease via oral use. This isn't controversial.

You also ignored all of the other risks I mentioned. Bacterial infections, tears, ulcers, abscesses, etc. can all occur even if you're the only one who has ever used your syringe.
>Now you're comparing boofing to IV.
Yes, all of these things are common with IV use as well. They are not common with oral use.
>The fact that you're complaining about those numbers not existing should tell you enough
I haven't complained that those numbers don't exist. I asked you where you got them, and you confirmed you made them up. That's it.

>>77255295
>Of course it is
I have been boofing for years and never have I shared a syringe. Me sharing a syringe is just as likely as you chasing your stuff with bleach. It is not relevant.
>You also ignored all of the other risks I mentioned.
My friend, I don't want to entertain someone that moves goalposts randomly. We were talking about the difference between a first pass and a lack thereof and you suddenly bring up all kinds of other risks (which are also applicable to oral administration to a certain extent) because you can't back up your original claim. That's lame. No matter what I say you'll just cook up something new.

Potential risk of a maybe infection is not that bad in the grand scheme of things when you're already ingesting mystery substances that could cause cancer. It's a really weird place to draw the line. It just makes oral administration -slightly- safer, but I never argued against that.
>Yes, all of these things are common with IV use as well.
Come on dude, don't be stubborn and hold onto your "boofing and IV are kinda just as bad in many ways" argument. I asked you to back up your claim on this yet you refused yet again; all harm reduction agencies disagree with you.
>I haven't complained that those numbers don't exist. I asked you where you got them, and you confirmed you made them up.
Once again, you made up the exact same numbers when you said that there was a huge gap between first pass and no first pass!! You tried to present them as truth, whereas I never did that. You didn't have to ask. Anyone that's literate understood that it was purely a manner of speech due to how perfect those numbers were. This is not a gotcha.