My wife and I recently have had sex maybe once or twice a month max. I would prefer it was more and I've mentioned it in the past. We've been together 7 years. We are both early 30's. No children (yet?).The sex we do have is not great. I feel she is not very into it, despite my best efforts. A while back she wanted to put something on the TV while we had sex???? I was not on board with that.Today I tried to have sex but she said she wasn't in the mood. She said she would buy me whatever porn I wanted. She said this completely seriously. I don't usually watch porn and I have really no clue why she thinks this is something that I'd be down for. It's not that I never have, it's just that I'd rather have sex with my wife. I told her that I don't want porn, I want to be intimate with the woman I love. She acknowledged this and said she'd think about things.What would cause this? It feels very out of left field. Is it over? Notes: No, she is not on birth control. No, I didn't get fat. No, she isn't cheating.
>>77257815Nigga you do not have a wife :sob:
>>77257815Sounds like a typical marriage, desu
Defo cheating over you my nigga do the swapping phone test with the help of a homie
>>77257815Nigga you're ugly.
Wait normalfags pay for porn? What the hell?
>>77257815>We've been together 7 years. We are both early 30's. No children (yet?).The problem here is that you're supposed to have three or four kids by now. And those kids are supposed to consume your time.You prevented that from happening, by using artificial or chemical means, because you thought you could extend the honeymoon phase of your relationship FOREVER, in some kind of perpetual adolescence, even though you're in your fucking 30's. And it didn't work, because it doesn't work for fucking ANYBODY. And your relationship changed in the way that all relationships change, but you left yourself sterile and empty, without the ability to move on to the next biologically and psychologically fucking DETERMINED phase of your relationship, because of your corrupt and demented belief that you could freeze yourself as a 20 year old forever just by putting a piece of plastic on your dick or by having your wife take a pill every day or by some other equally un-natural method. So now you have nothing. Enjoy nothing.
>>77257835She's nice in most other aspects. I do think we have a mutual love.
>>77257858She isn't>>77257863Maybe but I'm sure I could find someone who thinks otherwise
>>77257871No that's another dumb part of it but I didn't bring it up lol. If I wanted porn I just need to Google.
>>77257873Still sexually frustrated but now have to worry about looking after kids you can't afford? Dumb ass comment
>>77257920To add to this - men with kids post the same shit all the time. Kids or no kids is irrelevant to a dead bedroom, other than they make them worse because they're an easy excuse for the wife.
>>77257815Make her think you're cheating she'll suddenly be interested again.
>>77257815give her some libido booster like maca or dhea
You say she isnt cheating but offer no rationale as to why. This seems pretty typical of cheating thus far. How can you be so sure, deadbed anon?
>>77257971Also unironically this probably works. Women want what other women want/have.
>>77258455I check her phone semi regularly, I have a close friend that works in the same office as her, and all our friends are mutual friends. I would 100% know if she was cheating.
>>77258455She could only be cheating if she was doing it literally during office hours and my friend was in on it. There are zero signs that point towards her cheating other than she seems sexually uninterested in me.
>>77257960>Kids or no kids is irrelevant to a dead bedroomDo you think everybody fucked every night prior to the invention of birth control? No, they did not. Because if they DID, every woman would have been perpetually pregnant her entire life and would have had 20 kids. And while families were larger, they weren't THAT large."We have sex a lot less but neither of us notices because we spend all our time caring for five kids," is actually the way that relationships in your 30's are SUPPOSED TO BE. That's what we're biologically designed to do. When you try to prevent it from happening, you get the "dead bedroom" anyway, but you also don't have the kids that are SUPPOSED to be there to replace the obsessive focus you used to have on your spouse. That's where the emptiness and sense of loss comes from - you tried to fuck with your correct and proper biological destiny, out of sheer greed, and it didn't work, and you LOST.
>>77258544Romans were using condoms thousands of years ago and women tracked cycles before that. Literally kill yourself dummy.
>>77257815Blackpill; if you were Chad she wouldn't grow tired of having sex with you, or ever not be "in the mood"Literally just beat women into submission if not death, they deserve it
>>77258558>>77258544And before that they were pulling out. Again, kill yourself ty - save the world from your brainless drivel
>>77258576Perhaps I'll take steroids for 6 months and if she remains uninterested I will break up. Will update all on how it goes!
>>77258589>>77258576If there was the you version of you and the Chad version of you, she would care about (and have sexual interest in) Chad you more. Women are basically just animals, certainly their minds and emotions are wired that way.
>>77258544You are sorely ignorant of history. Most women for various/long portions of history *were* perpetually pregnant for most if not entirely their fertile years.It's just that families weren't *that* big because of high mortality rates. A woman could have 15 pregnancies through her adult life but you could expect perhaps only a third at best would survive to adulthood. Women were constantly pregnant and needed to be because it was the only way to end up with an average sized family for the time.You can read as much even from primary sources in past times, of instances where a woman was literate and would leave accounts or diaries, both about herself and the women she knew or encountered.>tl;dr most women were perpetually pregnant in past times
>>77257871I would divorce her for suggesting to PAY for porn. Shes unsalvagable.
>>77257815Good sex costs more than kids and doesn't involve routinely spurting semen into plastic bags for disposal. Secondly it's a man's responsibility that his wife is sexually satisfied and there's no such obligation in the other direction. It was over before it even began.
Bible says due benevolence is duty. It's quite obvious what that means. Not saying if she's recovering from a car accident she should be forced to ride you cowgirl in her butt, but at the very least you should get a quicky when needed. It's a very real need for men, and it was understood by her that's how marriage works. Sex isn't something that can be withheld. Let's say you're backed up and its been a couple of days since the last time making love. What does it cost her to roll over on her stomach and hold still for five minutes? Does she not understand how important it is or does she just not care in the slightest? Imagine how she would feel if you weren't in the mood for paying next months mortgage? I'm guessing that requires a whole lot more than five minutes of your time every couple days. If you make $100k on the nose that's like $50/hr. $300k mortgage is like $2.5k a month. After taxes you're looking at more than an hour each day. A fast one every other day is 75 minutes a month. She's likely watching at least that much television each day. One could argue a house benefits you too, but actually demonstrating love physically would benefit her from the improvement in relationship health. She does not sound like a considerate person. This view is probably autistic, especially with the numbers but seriously. You put in 50+ hrs a month just to keep a roof over her head. Easily another ten hours for the food in her belly. Power, phone, internet, water, gas, transportation... The amount eclipses the 1.25hrs of sex a month multiple times over. We could assume being a woman maybe it's just retardation. Offering to buy porn is where it goes from a gross lack of consideration and neglect of duty to being offensive disregard towards your feelings and needs. She would not suggest buying porn out of innocent ignorance. She is holding her hand out to take take take and in the same breath spitting on your hard work, pride, and fulfillment of duty to her. It's unreasonable.
>>77257815>marriage cuckkek, fuck off bootlicker, enjoy that divorce rape!
>>77258917No kids, no sex, what's the point of a marriage like that? Just an ungrateful leech roommate but with all the emotional pain from unreciprocated love. Imagine sharing a bedroom with your oneitis and being rejected every single day.
>>77258893Thank you for the analysis.
>>77257815Just leave dude. It won't get better. Sex is a nonnegotiable. You shouldn't have to ask for it.
>>77258917Splitting half the assets we earned together in half, which is how it works in my country, seems fair, so I'm not worried. I didn't come into the marriage with a house or something.>>77259017The thing is. It's not unreciprocated love. She does love me. She supports me. She would be there in my time of need. It's a lack of desire that's the problem.
This isnt Reddit you fucking twat, still she tried to spice shit on the bed by putting on some porn but you a fucking selfish bitch ass insecure faggot declined, you think you are having fun but youre the only one having fun there nigga, the fact she offered to Buy porn for you meaning she wants that begging from you to stop, either she Is already done with your boring ass or she might be soon, thus you will probably will get cheated on, fuck you anyway this probably b8
>>77259369>she tried to spice shit on the bed by putting on some porn but you a fucking selfish bitch ass insecure faggot declinedNo, she wanted to watch FRIENDS lol
>>77259369>>77259515And it's not bait lol it's my life
>>77259369>>77259515>>77259526And I know it's not Reddit, it's why I posted it here and not there where there we could call me a rapist and suggest couple's therapy
>>77259515Lmao she Is done with you Bro, no way for coming back from this unless you ask her her Kinks and fuck her into oblivion, if she refuses then its over, do you even foreplay or touch her aside from having sex like spanking her ass or scratching her pussy while she making dinner, maybe fondling her tits or a massage or you just go for the kill and want to put It in?
>>77257920You can always afford kids. You fell for Jewish propaganda.Niggers have 0 money and still have endless kids that never starve.
>>77257815Just get a divorce The relationship is overEither that or get an open relationship A dead bedroom must be awful since sex is more then just fucking so you know theres no intimacy or love outside of the bedroom
>>77258576>Blackpill; if you were Chad she wouldn't grow tired of having sex with you, or ever not be "in the moodwomen say whats happening
>>77259586Yeah I foreplay and we usually do it a bit rough (spanking which she likes but she's never asked for anything further) and I do try to warm her up in the day.I've asked about kinks before but she plays dumb, she doesn't masturbate or anything like that. Earlier in the relationship it was very good and passionate, actually probably the best sex I've had (I had sex with only 3 women before I met her).Now part of me feels that she just played along with whatever I wanted sexually earlier in the relationship, was into it or played into it then because it's of the game of getting the guy you want, and now she has me she doesn't have to do that anymore.Further information: She's Japanese. Raised in Japan but fluent in English. Came to Uni in the west when she turned 23 and we met her first year and have been together ever since.I do want to say again that I really don't think it's an issue of love. If I got dementia or something she'd be the one caring for me every day and I don't doubt that for second. But that's like old man needs 40 years in the future, and she's not doing a great job with my young man needs right now.
>>77259285If she's there for your time of need that's very different. At the least based on this thread you're acknowledging that the need is a real thing but subconsciously trying to diminish the amplitude of the need to meet her 95% of the way since 90% was too little. Could be awkward essentially masturbating with her body but libido is not exactly something we can control. Not her fault in other words, but her response to lack of libido absolutely can be considered for her to be at fault there.If there's no undue stress in her life then maybe low dose testosterone cream applied to the clitoris can jumpstart things. Cream specifically and not gel as gels can contain alcohol. If she tries to fix her libido to appease you, best it feels good or neutral, not causes uncomfortable burning. All this and more make the idea a move not without its risks.It's a blow to the ego not being desired back in the same way you desire her, anyone can agree that's a misfortunate situation. But if she doesn't mind relieving you from a nut with satisfactory frequency I'd try to cope with the fact it's her way of expressing love even though she isn't able to understand the need the same way you do as the one needing it. Think love languages meme and work outward from there in seeking solutions.Based on the op I probably misunderstood your reply here and by she's there in you times of need you mean time of need except for the times of need that is being discussed here. Personally, it would not feel like love to me if the making love part is absent. The feeling of rejection like salt on a, wound. Many studies show frequency of sex is strongly correlated with relationship satisfaction, and is even predictive of outcomes. All the copes in the world can't effectively address sexless marriage because it's something you can't rationalize away.
>>77259613Retarded feral children in prison by age 20, not a great example
>>77259652This one is a real black pill that evokes an animalistic hatred for women (ironically, probably the exact sorta thing that would turn them on)
>>77259687> she's there in you times of need you mean time of need except for the times of need that is being discussed hereYeah that's what I meant. Thanks for your comment anyway, good food for thought.
>>77259285Need is present. Need is disregarded. She still loves me she just doesn't want to have sex with me even just a little to take care of my needs. That's a thing right it must be? We got married for reasons besides sex. The hamster spins the wheel and charges up hidden resentments eventually if left unadressed. The thing with hidden resentments is you can only tuck them away under the bed, throw in closet, sweep under the rug for so long. Eventually there's a crack, and when the dam breaks things are said that both parties wish had been kept withheld. That which can't be taken back or unsaid is effectively fuel flooding over the place now. The next crack might contain enough energy to cause ignition. It's a vicious cycle that at some point can't be contained or suppressed because the moments it's putting out everything is still covered in oil and just some number of denials before it reignites. >>77259679The bait and switch thing sounds manipulative. There could be a cultural element at play here. Japan being a pagan nation sex in marriage may not carry the same weight and understanding of a wife's duty may be beyond her understanding. Could be normal way marriage plays out in her country. In English you're a rude little shit if you constantly interrupt someone talking to you. Over there you're extremely rude if you don't constantly interject with hi every statement she makes.In the event it's a cultural clash I am at a loss to analyze further. It's either compromise or one side has to accept the culture of their spouse when it comes to the subject of sex within marriage. I read it's not uncommon for Japanese married couples to sleep I love Lucy style. A daunting thought. If the two of you are in America you could appeal to her Japanese values of harmony and going along. There's even face at stake here. Being denied sex is not a western marriage value and would be shameful if others discovered this aspect. Foreigners should assimilate either way.
>>77257815Can you see if she'll buy you Bullying Messy Puke Slut by ero hime? And share it with me?
>>77257873>>77258544>nature>nature>unnatural>natureNaturally kill yourself, you faggot retard.>>77259613>just create more nigger slavecattleMight hebrew of you!This anon >>77258688 is also correct. Just get fucked you feebleminded tradlarper. Bet you worship the jew on a stick, too.
>>77259871Lol, try something less extreme and it might happen!
>>77259769>Need is present. Need is disregarded. She still loves me she just doesn't want to have sex with me even just a little to take care of my needs.Very good point. I feel like there's probably a bit of TikTok/HR dominated world brainwashing in here too though - this is the one male need, where if a female compromises in fulfilling that need even though it's not her top preference, the guy is effectively deemed a rapist if this ever comes out as knowledge. What I'm trying to say is that society doesn't treat this need in the same way as it treats other needs in a relationship, and I expect my wife thinks along the same lines - I don't think "I look after you by doing X, you should be looking after me by having enthusiastic sex with me!" is logic that would get me anywhere.>There could be a cultural element at play here.I will have a look further into this.
It may be her nature, she's less sexual than other women. She may be depressed which is very common.She may have fallen out of love for you, in which case you really have to search out there for an answer. Your relationship needs a major upset.What kind of sex do you have as a couple? Have you done it outside the bedroom?
>>77257815The thing is women don't think about and enjoy sex in the same way men do. I don't want to go out and say women can't obviously, but the reality is that they don't, and I'm not sure women even realize it. You need to be aware that women are not attracted to men as individuals, they are attracted to an abstract idea of them. A man looks at a woman and finds her sexually attractive and naturally wants to have sex with her. This is not the case for women at all. For women to become aroused they need a "spark", which basically occurs only when his behavior, more specifically his confidence and assertiveness, match that preconceived abstraction. This is why so many marriages become sexless after a period time, and incidentally also the primary reason why women cheat. Once a woman has "entrapped" a man into a relationship there is no real reason for that man to pursue her, and thus no reason for him to exert those qualities, which results in the "spark" eventually fading. Despite western media's best efforts to normalize men-like sexual behavior in women (see movies, etc) women's sexual instincts aren't comparable to men's and never will be.
im a virgin who never touched a girl op but i heard a guy say women respond to dominant rough sex, you grab her and force her to be fucked whether she wants it or not and tell her youre not stopping until you get what you want and she will cum hard and be horny thats what i heard anyway so its worth a try
>>77260577They have hormonal cycles. Reality is that they're only fertile for a couple days out of the month. The optimal play is to track their cycle and fuck them hard when they're ovulating. That's also when you schedule your date nights and ensure they have a couple drinks. Always make the ovulation sex special. The rest of the time you suck and grope her tits. This hijacks the infant pair bonding mechanism for yourself. This makes her more caring, doting and providing. She'll make you food and get satisfaction from doing so. Your regular foreplay should be rubbing her clit until she climaxes while you suck her nips.I've field tested this. It works.
tell her you want kids so now she has to fuck you, plus now you have an excuse to cream pie her
>>77260644Biohacking women, devious
>>77257873See >>77257920America's rugged individualism in a dogshit society designed to be isolating makes your partner carry unnatural responsibilities for social needs. If you had a bunch of friends, purpose, and a comfortable amount of money+free time you wouldn't be "thinking things over" in a dead bedroom. She'd either be a happy participant in sex or she'd be outed as the freak she is by her peers.
>>77260294That's something I keep overlooking, the tick tock hr thing. My grandfather married a 14 year old in his 20s, but he was semi established so it worked out. No divorce, till death did they part. My parents closer together in age, but I was a teen pregnancy. They met at Bible College, got married, and made a bunch of us. Not perfect scenario but not aberrant in the slightest. No divorce. You now see screenshots expressing bewilderment over a 3 or 5 year age gap, which is a total nothing burger. If anything ten years seems like it should be the most ideal, ~30 and 20. Established + resources meets fertility. Smooth transfer from guidance under parents to guidance under husband. It's the natural expected order of things. There's probably some nutjob out there who thinks 2 years is extreme. I really don't get it. Ignoring age of consent and pretending 18 is when women are supposed to start looking for marriage; what does a 20 year old have to offer? He's not even fully grown into his frame yet. If lucky he's making 2x the minimum wage. I always advise young men to find a wife asap and lock her down but that's because of how backwards society has been twisted. Reality is going to be very difficult. There will be finances straining marriage. She might even have to work just to be able to make rent while saving for a downpayment. Interest rates are like 7or 8% now. Brutal. The wife should be playing house. Independence from parents, learning how to spend husband's money making the shit rental at least resemble a home, and reading baby name books. Not working a shit job where they both come home exhausted without the benefit of division of labor. If both work who does the cooking? What about cleaning? Since women are men now do we expect her to crawl under the car and change oil? Maybe rock paper scissors for who cuts the grass this week and who cleans the gutters? Doesn't work when both are the man. The idea that there is duty to the man has become taboo.
>>77258739>Secondly it's a man's responsibility Women should contribute equally in this modern day.
>>77260835Regarding marital debt, the Church describes it as an act of mutual self-giving.I.e. intercourse should be an expression of love for another, and quoting scripture about marital debt just for an orgasm rather than actually to express love for your spouse is lust. You may have a right to each other, but do not abuse it. Proddies often forget why thst rule exists. American evangelicals shouldnt be regarded as Christian with how they twist scripture like they do
>>77257815Maybe there is an inner reason as to why her libido is so low. Perhaps she could go see a doctor as it could be a symptom of something else. She may even be depressed for what ever reason. How are contributing to her life? Are you playing into her love languages? Are you making sure she feels secure and loved? Are giving her verbal foreplay without the expectation of sex? Are you showing that you are invaluable to her life as she is to yours?Couples counseling could also be an option. Having a third party guiding conversation and problem solving can be really beneficial
>>77261048Ignore this. Do not jump through hoops for the bare minimum.
>>77260926Bible also clearly says don't be horny in the first place that's bad. But if you can't help it then at least get married so you have the be fruitful and multiply cope.I can't deny a big part of it is horny. But if it's just horny then you'd jerk off and feel sated. The emotional side of sex is huge, ginormous even. But overwhelmingly society wants to pretend that men have no needs beyond water and some sunshine. Jerking off only addresses the physical side. Hard to believe but men want to feel loved and appreciated. Sex is the most salient expression of love. The colloquialism "making love" should illustrate this point. You think a woman coined that term? Feeling appreciated is more of a slow burn but is equally important in a healthy relationship. I was single for a long time so I won't pretend what a housewife does is trivial or easy even if the hours are lower. There's a lot of logistics that goes into the weekly menu, cleaning schedule, responding dynamically to messes, etc.. Husbands probably could express appreciation more here. But being realistic these things happen largely within the comforts of home. The wife is basically running the house from the very powerful position of both home and hearth. Obviously I have an androcentric viewpoint and while able to appreciate the work that goes into making a house into home, it's a totally different ballgame on the man's end. Social intricacies, navigating hierarchies, being the sole income earner, knowing your wife could be playing the game at 100% but she will fail absolutely if you fuck up big enough. The husband bears the weight of stakes here. If she burns dinner or leave a cabinet door open its frustrating. But long term impact it has is negligible. She makes tuna croquettes or butter noodles, closes cabinet. The threat is neutralized. A man making equivalent fuck up at work could very well cost him his employment.
>>77261155There is no love or major incentive to keep failures around at work. If there's insufficient funds to weather the job search it could lead to a catostrophic cascade which not only drags him down but his wife and kids under his care. It's high pressure stuff. It's nice to hear that the efforts are recognized sometimes. It's necessary to feel a loving embrace and the physical expression of love. Fapping is nowhere near a substitute. I can't verbalize why sex feels like this and carries such emotional charge, but it's there. Due benevolence can be simplified as be nice and take care of each other. Men and women have different needs but sex is a need. A need that is not satisfied through onanism. Not to mention the implications of suggesting porn. Yo, here's some slut. She fucks some guy on camera and lots of dudes coomed to her. Please take care of of this burden yourself and don't burden me. I don't care if you look at other women because I don't see your love or sex as important to me so why should it matter to you? Maybe do it in another room so I don't have to hear or even be aware of it? K thx baii~
>>77260893Women satisfy our lives in every way with their presence, if we can't even satisfy them sexually we're purposeless.
>>77261181>women satisfy our lives in every way with their presenceYes, by instituting over 80 percent of divorces and contributing to the workforce at half the pay.Almost everything they do makes everyone equally miserable.
>>77261048Couples therapy is bullshit. The therapist agrees with you on every point in hopes you keep coming back and very softly suggests that maybe she should think about it. Not even thinking about what's going on he ran a simple algorithm. >Who is paying my fee? Who cares more about the relationship? How can we drag this out over as many sessions as possible? When this half assed garbage doesn't work he suggests getting closer to each other by talking. The example provided was asking about each other's day. As if that's not the most obvious fucking thing we already do every day. When addressing a disagreement where one side is adamant about the truth and the other is trying to gaslight you know what he said? >Well it seems there's a disagreement here and very strong feelings. Regardless of what actually happened one of you will either have to defer to the other or bury the hatchet and move past it.$125/0.75hrs for basic common fucking sense to hear what I've already said repeated. How exactly do you bury the hatchet when you're not the one brandishing it? Seems obvious now but you'd think seeing the owner of the practice he'd have the most experience and be the best choice. Cost me a lot of money, and then everything.>I suggest each of you get seperate counselors. Of course neither of you can see me as I'm your couples councilor and I wouldn't want to give the impression of taking sides. But I know two excellent counselors who would be a good fit for each of you. As luck would have it they work for me in this very same building.Criminal that therapy is not just legally allowed but broadly encouraged. It's a complete scam. Nothing is said other than repeating what you already think in hopes of tricking you into thinking he's on your side. The greed makes it a little too obvious. PhD my ass. You can imagine what tests looked like. What is the payer likely thinking? That's the suggestion you make, but reword it in the wishy washiest way.
>>77261273OP here. I'm not doing therapy, and you expressed why much better than I could.
>>77261304Honestly just get a separate bed in another room. You have been demoted to roommate.
>>77261181If she claims she's never orgasmed before even after trying masturbation I'm happy to approach it as a challenge, but you cant seriously expect it to all fall on you. Orgasm is not something passively achieved. Even when receiving oral sex to completion you at least need to understand how your shit works and give simple commands on how to get there. Applaud the effort for attempting uncharted territory optional, but you have no right to place failure on the other party in this case. You're the one who didn't orgasm. If orgasm is a desired outcome then you should at least have some idea of how to get there. I'm happy to lick, finger, and dick around for a while hoping it happens. But if you don't even know your own body there's very little to work with. Women should take some responsibility in sex if they want to get a coom out of it. If not it's perfectly fine that sex is a gift just for the man's enjoyment. He would gain deeper satisfaction from it if both get to enjoy orgasm of course. But if she's never had an orgasm before? You can't help but wonder if she really prioritizes that side of things if she can't get a coom on her own or with the expensive toys you bought and use with her and trying lots of different ways. If she just lays there with a mild "ehhh, guess it'd be cool to orgasm. I heard they are pleasant" What are you supposed to do with that? Let's go to Timbuktu.Here's a receipt from the gas station and a paperclip.
>>77257815this sounds more like your fault desu
>>77261347Don't care whose fault it is care about solutions but thanks bro
>>77261347>but we just did that four weeks ago :c>ugh fine>at least turn on CNN firstHow the fuck is it his fault? The effort and commitment required even just to fake it is trivial. It doesn't have to be enthusiastic. Just lay still briefly, say I love you after, and kiss. Cuddle a few minutes, pee, go to bed
>>77261413How about you kill yourself and your miserable so-called wife?
>buying pornShe does know that porn is free everywhere, right?
>>77261440Apparently not lolMaybe she thought offering me "premium" porn would be less insulting (it wasn't)
>>77261318Not even hyperbole. OP doesn't realize it yet, but all the "other things" that make his marriage worthwhile will crumble next. The sexual enthusiasm is just the canary in the coal mine.She'll stop hugging and kissing you soon too OP. She'll tense up and push you away if you try to hug or kiss her. Her attitude will shift from disinterest to disgust unless you can correct course.Don't take my word for it. Just take a trip to /r/deadbedrooms. You'll read plenty of stories of guys who convinced themselves that the love is more important than the sex, and they suffer through a sexless marriage for years. Then it eventually dawns on them that it's not just the sex that's gone, it's every other smaller expression of love that goes with it. That's what crushes dudes.
>>77261451You both sound like braindead NPCs that can't think through their problems. Neither of you sound like you take the marriage nearly as seriously as you think. You should have nipped this shit in the bud long ago.Fact of the matter is that a healthy marriage is founded on sexual attraction. If it wasn't then guys would just marry the homies. There would be no reason to put up with a woman they met in adulthood when they could just be spending their lives with the friends they've had since elementary school.Shit's dire. It will only get worse if you don't take initiative.
>>77259679>She's Japanese. Raised in Japan but fluent in English. Came to Uni in the west when she turned 23 and we met her first year and have been together ever since.Wait until you find more how much percentage of married Japanese women cheat. In Japan a man's job is to bring home the money, the wife doesn't give two shits if the husband goes out to hostess clubs or fuck hookers because she will be fucking the delivery guy or the shop keeper down the road.>If I got dementia or something she'd be the one caring for me every day and I don't doubt that for second. You should watch some videos about the plight of old Japanese men without a source of income and what happens to them. The wife takes all the money and initiates divorce.>She acknowledged this and said she'd think about things.Your wife already know she has the upper hand in the relationship since you failed the shit test with a fat 0 score so now she will think she has higher status than you so don't be surprised if you find out she is cheating later.Your solution in this case is arguably to cheat, to show her that if she doesn't step up someone else will take her place, play into her insecurities by stripping out the security you afford her in the form of a settled relationship. Would you cherish something you got for no cost and effort? Of course not, that's why IKEA furniture sells, same shit quality but because they make you pay in labour you think its good stuff. Make her pay.
>>77261517>She'll stop hugging and kissing you soon too OP. She'll tense up and push you away if you try to hug or kiss her. Her attitude will shift from disinterest to disgust unless you can correct course.>Don't take my word for it. Just take a trip to /r/deadbedrooms. You'll read plenty of stories of guys who convinced themselves that the love is more important than the sex, and they suffer through a sexless marriage for years. Then it eventually dawns on them that it's not just the sex that's gone, it's every other smaller expression of love that goes with it. That's what crushes dudes.Whats pathetic is the guy that said he cheated rekindled his marriage. The fact his wife thought she had competition made him look desirable again.Women are just fucking animals in the end aren't they?
>>77261517A reasonable concern, but very pessimistic. Remember, she is Japanese. Asians and Europeans see the world in dramatically different ways. No point throwing in the towel just yet if it's merely an east vs weast problem. Interestingly enough a yandex search for Patrick Weast yields some clown actually named Patrick Weast. The simulation has gotten so bad lately it's hard to take anything seriously. Anyway, infidelity rates are even higher in Japan than in America, and it's not uncommon that married jap couples sleep in seperate beds. I am rooting for op and hoping it's just a problem of her being asian and he can teach her proper European Christian values like marriage actually meaning something. Japan is great but their religion is a little silly. They don't look to the heavens for God. Instead everything is kami sama. Worship the grass spirit in the blade of grass over here. Rock spirit over there. Littered cigarette butt spirit yonder, all equally important gods to them while Europeans are monotheistic and believe earth is Satan's domain while God resides in heaven until Jesus returns and ushers forth a new heaven and new earth. Culture is so deeply embedded it's hard to understand just how different worldviews can be even when living together for years. Culture is like water to a fish. It's just there and is never questioned. Here we see a good bird married to some fish. They manage to get along because language barrier is overcome, but that's not even half the battle.
Wtf is hav I ng a shaved head really so unattractive? I thought it qas because I'm short. LOL well just another thing to add to the list of reasons I will be forever alone.
>>77261962>Anyway, infidelity rates are even higher in Japan than in America, and it's not uncommon that married jap couples sleep in seperate beds.In Japan the husbands are so exhausted from work and after work socializing they will simply hire a prostitute just to avoid drama from the wife.Conversely the wife will sleep with her own son in order to keep him focused on his studies and not on young girls.
>>77257815You're not supposed to ask her for sex. A wife is property. Her holes are yours to use at your discretion. The asking is what is drying her up. Grab that bitch by the throat and fuck her already. She's dying inside waiting for you to start acting like a fucking man and take what is rightfully yours.
>>77262131You guys tryna catch me a rape charge.I do get the point though. I will try a lot more assertively.
>>77259515lmfao she wants Joey for sure
>>77261983Stop it with the memes, Japan experts. The middle class Japanese are doing just fine.
>>77257815You've done the right thing asking the incels at r9k for relationship/sex advice lad. Definitely don't talk to your wife about it either.
>>77258688>tfw no perpetually pregnant wife giving me an army of strong sons
>>77257815>my wife>reddit spacinghttps://vocaroo.com/121BrCx8AG56
Dude you're only young and have no kids, just divorce. Don't live like this. Go look at the miserable fucks on /deadbedrooms. That's your future. Your wife isn't attracted to you sexually, doesn't want to fuck you and doesn't even care enough about your needs to pity fuck you. Just leave. Life is too short to have your self esteem decimated like this and to live in the hope of a crumb of pussy.
>>77257815cheat on her or tell her you're going to cheat, if there's no kids involved you don't owe her your loyalty if she can't provide with sexor be more assertive or leave her
