Why is the western world so lacking in culturally right wing and economically left wing political representation? Most leftist politicians in my home are in favor of nationalizing industries and in welfare/social services while also being in support of national security and restricting exploitative vices like pornography, unhealthy food, and drugs. This is a very popular position, I am wondering why this is not the case for you?
>>77261170>This is a very popular position, I am wondering why this is not the case for you?because they are purposefully trying to crash the systems here.
>>77261228Your countries are supposed to be not as corrupt are they not? Why would they purposefully give up their dominance through lackluster politics?
>>77261263>Your countries are supposed to be not as corrupt are they not?says who? the leaders? lol
>>77261170The political right is focused on generating profit and the polical left is focused on redistributing it.Political left in the West is comfortably fat. You've noticed the focus on cultural and lifestyle issues, yes?That's the underhanded deal we have going on , that the left can do their social experimentations as long as they let the owner class do as they please on the economic side of things.
>>77261309It seems to me that the left in the west always commits political suicide by dying on very unpopular hills like abolishing police and transgender stuff for minors, all the while left wing economic policies are always very popular among the working class. So this focus on identity means that the left has been coopted by the right in the west?
>>77261170Because cultural-right, economic-left is fascism and it's virtually forbidden (or outright forbidden in places like Germany) in western countries.You can be economic-left and that's ok as long as you don't interrupt the elites' social agenda. And you can be cultural-right as long as you don't oppose the elites' money-grubbing. But you can't do both at once.
>>77261320Maybe so, let's examine the logic here.Leftists narrative is so that poor people are being targeted by the police and taken advantage of by the prison system. Now a fool or the devil would advice you to stop enforcing the law in this situation where the root cause of crime is poverty and no possibility climb out of poverty by legal means.
>>77261309>The political right is focused on generating profit and the polical left is focused on redistributing it.>Political left in the West is comfortably fat. You've noticed the focus on cultural and lifestyle issues, yes?>That's the underhanded deal we have going on , that the left can do their social experimentations as long as they let the owner class do as they please on the economic side of things.>Dude actually believes theres a political left and rightTheres a soap opera, a drama, a football game. That you believe has an outcome. While in action everything continues.
>>77261370>>77261372This is all very disheartening. I was under the assumption that the west had moved past these archaic power games at least more than a supposedly dictatorial third world country such as my own. I now see that you get the worst of both worlds, capitalist exploitation accompanied with the destruction and disillusion of the family as the primary unit in society.
>>77261170>I am wondering why this is not the case for you?Because the elite rigged the whole thing to prevent that. The goal is to extract as much as they can and then replace white people.
>>77261170Sounds like you are interested in nationalists who are also socialists
>>77261453>Sounds like you are interested in nationalists who are also socialiststhey go after all the collectivists though.National SocialistsSoviet RepublicChinese Communist PartyCommunist Party of CubaAny collectivist movement is destroyed either through subversion, sanctions, or war.
>>77261453The nazis were not very economically left wing. Hitler even mentioned using leftist imagery to garner support before eventually purging the left wing of the nazi party (strasserists).I guess you could say I am a nationalist, and I do have socialist sympathies, although I'm not entirely opposed to private industry. If I had to describe my views I would say ba'ath aligns most with them, as I also happen to live in the one ba'athist country left (syria).
>>77261468I firmly believe that a new cold war will begin, and I shall be on the side of the glorious people's republic o7.
>>77261596You could ally with the Chinese but they aren't your friend. They are ethno-nationalists.
>>77261637>You could ally with the Chinese but they aren't your friend. They are ethno-nationalists.technically but the tartars have already interbred with Chinese like 1000 years ago, it makes up the majority of the Chinese muslim population
>>77261666I thought they don't allow religion in China? Also aren't they genociding these guys? Why are there famous uyghurs?
>>77261699>I thought they don't allow religion in China? Also aren't they genociding these guys? Why are there famous uyghurs?What you listen to America, the sworn enemy of China, about what China does?
>>77261719Well I though they came from independent sources like the united nations. What about the neocolonialism China is doing in Africa with debt trapping?
>>77261170In short, it would be too based and a threat to who's actually pulling the strings.
>>77261747>Well I though they came from independent sources like the united nations. What about the neocolonialism China is doing in Africa with debt trapping?This is so much Western news it's hard to know where to start. Let's just say. China is Americas enemy militarily and economically, therefore it's best to tell everyone that war against China is good.
this is what AMLO is in mexico, he is christan left winger who is culturally conservative.If such a guy appeared in america he would win
>>77261170humans go in the lower right quadrant, cattle go in the other three.
>>77262019Libertarianism is kinda dumb man.
>>77261980I looked this guy up, and he seems pretty much like a Mexican Trump that has Bernie's economic policies. You're definitely right about how pretty much all Americans would adore him though.
>>77262056As opposed to a nanny state?
>>77261980>christan left wingerSo a nigger worshipper.
>>77262019I can see you think of your fellow man as cattle, the whole world would be your shitty ranch if you got to decide on things.
>>77262424I don't really see the correlation.
>>77261170thats the position that goes against the ruling class's interest the most, so no shit they dont encourage a political party for it. MAGA touched on it a bit with some populist rhetoric combined with nationalism, but trump is not left wing economically and still had views like supporting deregulation and austerity. the populism still helped them cross over in the swing states in 2016 and get that narrow victory though
>>77261170>pornographyyou are religious zealots, nobody cares about porn to that degree nor they should>unhealthy foodThere's effort but there's a lobby ready to sabotage a lot of stuff. It took ages to put the "this food is sugary shit" label, and they blocked any sort of taxes because muh freedoms, but there are a lot of politicians on their side>drugsRestricting them doesn't work, the war on drugs is a complete failure
>>77264136>pornYou just gonna coincidentally ignore the rampant sexual abuse scandals that smut conglomerates are complicit with or even actively participate in?>unhealthy foodIt's only a small portion of the dems who give a shit, not enough to counter the lobbyists.>drugsThe war on drugs only failed because they tackled it the wrong way. Part of which was because Reagan helped prop up cartels in LATAM as well as imported them to LA to fuck with the black communities there. Besides that though, there's been a whole lot of arresting of drug users and not a lot of rehabilitation funding. Soft paternalism isn't a bad thing and only an American high on negative freedoms would think so.
