Why are so many peoplle ok with dating women who had sex before them?How can you love and feel loved by someone who has had another mans penis inside them and on their face? How could you think of them as sweet and kind knowing they let another man defile them all the way talking like a nasty whore?
Their past doesn't matter, any ilusion it does stems from male insecurity
The only reason their past bothers me is because I'm yet to experience what they already have
>>77280900I get that youre joking, but obviously it does matter, its silly to pretend it doesnt. Nobody ever says a rapists or murderers past doesnt matter. Your past is who you are now
Because all women nowadays are total slutsEither you find a way to cope or you remain alone
yawn obligatory roastie cope as usual
you can all get fucked
>>77280881no amount of discussion and browbeating and theoretical withholding of vagina will lead me to accept a whore.
>>77280881Why do people get so mad when a person has standards? Relationships are a completely voluntary continuous interaction that is based on a certain set of conditions. If on either end, someone doesn't like the conditions or is not willing to compromise, they are free to leave. If a woman doesn't like that her partner isn't earning six figures, she is free to leave. If a guy doesn't like the triple-digit body count, he's free to go. There should be no attempts to obscure what you want from a relationship, nor to deceive the other party, because then that becomes fraud.
>>77280900>It doesn't matterThis is bait but I feel like answering anyways. It absolutely does matter because your number of sexual partners is correlated with your chance of divorce in marriage, so if you care about long term relationships it's pretty significant.https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0192513X231155673>We find the relationship between premarital sex and divorce is highly significant and robust even when accounting for early-life factors. Compared to people with no premarital partners other than eventual spouses, those with nine or more partners exhibit the highest divorce risk, followed by those with one to eight partners. There is no evidence of gender differences.
>>77280938This is the saddest shit I've ever seen. When your identity is entirely built around getting pumped and dumped by men over and over again I guess this is how defensive you become to someone asking a basic question.
>>77280900when the medical, judicial, insurance, political, and financial systems stop caring about a person's history, I'll stop caring about a woman's sexual history.
>>77280881man women get so fucking upset over thisjust don't sleep around, jesus
Cringe thread. None of these high mileage holes would even fuck the incel nerds in this thread. Your hypothetical rejection is fox and the grapes.
>>77281027I guess I couldnt say since I have no interest in women who arent virgins. Yet I get called a pedophile by bitter women for dating girls in their teens as a mid 20s guy primarily because I dont want to date a girl who has had a lot of sex
>>77281027>Your hypothetical rejectionyou mean like the rejection of males they view as suboptimal, ignoring there are literal jobless bums, pedophiles, women abusers, etc with girlfriends? Women try to scare men into behaving a certain way by insinuating their undesirable behaviors will prevent them from having sex. But if you look past the curtain you will see the tangible reality that there are plenty of terrible men who get laid. I don't have to think or act a certain way and I can still get laid.
>>77280938>if you don't like the fact that I'm a disgusting slut, talk to your mother or your sister or your cousinalmost every woman in my family married the man they lost their virginity to. not all of them after marriage, but to the man they married all the same. the one woman in my family who is a slut is also childless at 35 and on antidepressants and we don't invite her to family things because she's a drain to be around.
>>77281086The thing about those horrible people with gfs is that they manage to hide it long enough for them to actually begin dating them. An insecure incel lacks charisma, if you don't have that you will nearly always fail unless you're extremely physically attractive
>>77281027I cared about body count since I was 15 long before I knew I was an incel.
>>77281131>they manage to hide it long enough for them to actually begin dating them.There's that famous women's intuition I've heard about. Bro there are serial killers that have women begging to marry them. Maybe sometimes they're stealthy but I see plenty of antisocial nig nogs with shit attitudes getting girls. It's almost like women are driven towards negative traits unless a man is physically dysgenic.
>>77281163Violence is attractive to them, weather they admit it or not is another thing, it only becomes a problem when they're violent towards them, but that's something many don't take into account when dating a dangerous person
>>77281197*WETHER*
>>77281131>The thing about those horrible people with gfs is that they manage to hide it long enough for them to actually begin dating them. lol tons of them don't hide it much at all they are just charismatic or good looking. People, not just women, will simply ignore bad traits in people they see as likeable.
I don't know why anybody cares. Most guys have done dirty, fucked up, slut shit in their own right. I fucked a tranny after knowing them for 5 minutes once. Think about how much more sex everyone would be having if women felt encouraged and safe to express their desires with men. Men get to do that, women are constantly being scrutinized. How many incels would there be do you think if women felt it was okay and acceptable to approach men? Sluts are great! They made my youth!
>>77281253read that you fucked a tranny and disregarded the entirety of your post. Thanks!!!
>>77281253Where did you meet tranny fag anon
>>77281229Idk about that, if a Woman was a psychopath who beat on you brutally would you not leave her even though she was very attractive?
>>77281253Male sluts are also bad, human pair bonding is a real thing, and if you go bang sluts until you finally get hitched, I guarantee you'll be one of the guys who doesn't actually like his marriage or value his wife, perhaps lucky to get 10 years of marriage. Promiscuity in general is frownable behavior, and bad for your capacity to ever really connect and love with someone.
>>77281253lol. I doubt much would change. If a woman really wants you she will be proactive. Women do not want me
>>77280881Because then you will get nothing. You will most likely die alone because virgins basically don't exist anymore. The demand is high and supply is low. You will die alone because you're no high value. You can't get a virgin and be average
>>77281253because you're a sexual deviant dudemale sexuality has been tuned toward dual strategies>cum in as many women as possible (hence bang sluts)>ensure paternity over any progeny he personally invests in the effect is that the former hedges his bets while the latter is more sophisticated, allowing for more robust offspringit's the latter condition that just naturally makes slutty women repulsive to men seeking a long term relationship because it tells his hominid brain that she gets used by other men and he doesn't want to get cucked, it's a pretty primal revulsion and no amount of social shaming is going to make it go away
>>77281141And still cucked by those standards lol
>>77281349So I have to settle for leftovers because some woman was stupid in high school/college/ever?
>>77281316Grinder>>77281301I have walked in many shoes, my friend. >>77281324The existence of monogamy does not negate the human desire for sex in general. If it did we wouldn't be talking about this. My past sexual experiences don't make my current ones less satisfying, that's retarded. >>77281373Oh no! Not a deviant!Oh wait, that means nothing:? Nevermind. How about this, you meet people, sometimes things happen, sometimes they don't, and you don't think too much about it?
>>77281349I'm happy with nothing though. Robot life is fun. It's the failed normalfags who care about stupid shit like holes.
>>77281402Unironically yes, if you ever want to date anyone you will likely have to accept this eventually
>>77280900Any disagreement boils down to feeling uncomfortable or insecure about something. Doesn't make it irrelevant.
>>77281349Rather die standing than live on my knees like a miserable dog.
>>77281442If I am not anybodys first and strongest choice, why should I be anybodys choice. Clearly they cared more about their past partners than they ever will about me>inb4 you deserve nothing betterIt is all or nothing for me. Women are so spineless they cannot hold the same principle.
>>77281430>My past sexual experiences don't make my current ones less satisfyingUh huh, rightttttt. I totally believe that. Better throw away all the statistics because this anon said so! If you chase after sluts constantly, you're just crying internally about how daddy didn't love you. Do you think every woman went around being the town bike the entire history of human civilization because "humans need sex"? That's preposterous, and you're retarded.
>>77281430>Oh no! Not a deviant!>Oh wait, that means nothing:? Nevermind.Are you being obtuse? It's just the explanation for why things are the way they are. Trying to understand it through your own individual sexuality is not going to work because you are a sexual deviant, you literally do not conform to the standard pattern of men. The general phenomenon is a result of averaging over most men. Most men do not want to commit to a slut because at a very base level it's a bad play for his genetics.
>>77281349This is true. But people should see it as it is, instead of getting high on their own copes.
>>77281478Your decision, but that journey to a virgin bride you're desiring is going to be very difficult, and depending on your age basically impossible
>>77281526lol I have since given up. People younger than me are already getting married. I accept that nobody wants me. I just hope they I dont live too long. Nothing more pathetic than beinng a poor, decrepit, lonely old bastard with no family or friends. I hope that I die before 2050. Because I do not want to be some demented octogenarian who is discovered putrefying into a mattress in a cluttered house full of unwanted junk
women still don't get it lmao. it's not so much that sex itself is the problem, it's that women with high body counts are trash people, hence high body count = red flag. think of it this way. a woman sees a sexless incel and assumes all sorts of things about him, but most importantly knows to avoid him because incel != chad. surely there must be something wrong with him if he hasn't had sex and can't laid. this is the same basic principal at work but in reverse
>>77280881Its the same with how some people will forgive a porn watching past
>>77281197It makes sense, honestly. For most of our evolution we were creatures where the men basically tried to kill each other, and the winner got to fuck the girl. Women still have that deep-seated evolutionary memory and subconsciously get wet whenever they see or hear about a man killing or harming other men, because that man won and he gets to fuck them now.
>>77281638yeah the sad thing is the females who displayed stronger resistance to murdering invaders were probably just killed along with their children which wiped out a lot of their genesthe pattern of war and death basically works in favor of women who submit to violence and men willing to commit it
>>77281253A man having sex with other women is not a threat to the woman's reproduction. Women do not have an instinct to stop their mate from fucking other people in order to guarantee that the child is theirs. They always know it's theirs. Their instinct is a lesser one, developed relatively recently evolutionarily speaking, to stop the man from potentially supporting another mate and its offspring instead of hers, but if the man is capable of supporting both they don't care, which is why most women have no qualms about sharing the top tiers of men in a harem, and why a "reverse harem" has literally never been a common thing in all of human history because there have never been men accepting of it; in fact we have a word for these failures of men: cuckold, and it's one of the worst insults you can levy against a man.men care about a woman's past and women don't care about a man's. no double standard exists because men and women have different standards. men and women cannot judge the other based on their own standards, e.g. women cannot expect men to be ok with them being slutty. it just doesn't work.
>>77281590You'll be happy one day bro, girl or not.
>>77281430>disgusting monkeypoxed homosexual thinks anyone cares about its opinions.
>>77281594I don't think it matters if you explain it, all that matters is that they're being shamed and do not like it and will try to shame you back. The fact that it is a direct and easily anticipated consequence of her life choices doesn't seem to enter into it.
>>77281688I will be happy when I realize that I am dying. Then I will be terrified because I am quite sure of what will happen to my soul. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. The neverending fire
>>77281402"women should know the exact man they want to marry before they even graduate highschool. How dare a woman date someone only for it to not work out."I'm sorry but women aren't going to just sit in their parent's basement never interacting with other human beings until you come along. Don't date a whore who has casual sex, but unless you're right out of high school, most women have had at least one or two romantic relationships that involved sex, unless they're either hyper-religious or undesirable for other reasons.
>>77282003Fair enough. Women find me undesirable for reasons. I am meant to be alone
>>77280881>dumb sm screenshot probably to incite arguing #3747573838>>>/pol/
>>77280881Probably because the majority of guys are getting laid just as well. Its hard to hold a double standard to women when you enjoy fucking about as well. And by that point, who even cares as long as you guys are having a good time.
>>77282003Even if they becoming used goods was somehow an honest mistake, it doesn't make them not-used goods
>>77282269But you're an idiot if you honestly expect to find a virgin when you're already in your mid 20s or later. Even in the past, yes lots of people married virgins but that's because lots of people married straight out of school.If we're comparing women to goods anyways, expecting to find a virgin as a full-grown adult is like waiting until a game console is no longer in production, then expecting to be able to buy it brand new. The only consoles you'll find that aren't used are those owned by collectors, and the faulty ones. The only virgins you'll find are the hyper-religious ones (though they get married off early, too), and the weirdos no sane man wants. Expecting normal women to not have any experiences just because you're an autist who missed your shot is delusional.
>>77282465True true, but that's a practical consideration. I'm a 27 yo boomer and gave up on this, so it's not like I'm unaware. And the times are bad enough to get a virgin at any age desu.You don't have to get mad.
i don't care as long as they didn't have premarital sex or adultery. you can be sweet and kind and still make funny noises when a man is inside you.
>>77282003if you accidentally shit your pants, you're still going to be the pants-shitter for the rest of your life unless you move somewhere else and lie about it, and even then, you're probably going to shit your pants again in your new place anyway because you're a pants-shitting kind of person.
>>77282003why would I ever want to settle for someone who's a mutliple-time failure at romantic and sexual relationships? that's a huge red flag, like she's had several and still fails? at bare minimum she's incompetent, awful at choosing mates, and doesn't learn from her failures, an that's not someone I want to be with even if I were a cuckold who was ok with settling for a whore.
>>77282465your game console analogy is moot because fornication should be a punishable felony for both men and women to begin with.
>>77282465why is this expectation so unrealistic? why are there not just as many female virgins as male virgins? are women simply inferior to men and not capable of being held to the same standards?
>>77282658Unfortunately I don't have the original one about premarital sex, but you get the point. Fuck off, nobody wants to live by your rules, same way you dont want to live by ours.
>>77282695>why are there not just as many female virgins as male virgins?I don't think the numbers are as different as you think. If you have studies, feel free to prove me wrong, but it feels like you're just using a site where a bunch of male virgins gather and then take that to be the norm. There might be a bit of difference with the exact age people lose their virginity at, as girls are generally prefer older partners (and men prefer younger partners), but I'm pretty sure adult virgins of either sex are a rare oddity.
>>77280881It's not really a big deal if you've got some notches on your belt yourself. I can understand being hung up about body count if you're a virgin though.
>>77280881I had sex with a LOT more women than my girlfriend had sex with men. It actually makes her extremely uncomfortable knowing about my past and she always regrets when she asks about it. It became a bit of a point of contention because apparently every other story I tell starts with "there was this girl I was seeing..." and I'd be a hypocrite if I went "erm actually you need to be a pure virgin while I was smoking weed and having strange women ride my dick in weird towns nobody goes to". Body count is extremely important and I wish she and I were both virgins, but sadly, the past is the past and we're both stuck here.>You don't belong here!I have been coming to the 4chan since 2007-2008, I'm too addicted to stop now. Also I'm ugly and 5'9".
>>77282695>>77282753Did some quick googling because I was genuinely curious, but yeah it looks like a similar amount of men and women are virgins. Women aren't bigger whores, 4chan is just an echo chamber for male incels. >A 2017 CDC report showed that 42.4% of females and 44.2% of males between the ages of 15 to 19 reported that they had not had sexual intercourse.>In the US, around 12.6% of males and 14.3% of females aged 20-24 are still virgins.https://gitnux.org/virginity-statistics/
>>77280881Refer to this thread OP, >>77269852 lots of good discussion in there about thisholy shit what an appropriate captcha
>>77280881>How could you think of them as sweet and kind knowing they let another man defile them all the way talking like a nasty whore?The same way I continue to think of her as sweet and kind after ***I*** have defiled her all the way talking like a nasty whore.When you're in a relationship you will occasionally fuck like feral animals, and then 20 minutes later be presentably dressed in public like normal humans, browsing the small appliances in a department store because y'all need a new toaster.
>>77282003People underestimate the power of sex. It's not that they should "know the exact man they want to marry before they even graduate highschool", it's that they should save the actual act of sex itself for a man who is genuinely committed to them and that they've truly come to know, love, trust, and respect. The vast majority of men that are willing to make that sort of commitment and save sex for marriage are more likely than not going to be loyal husbands that aren't just looking to use your body or play house and share some tender moments for a couple of years at best. This is just one of many reasons why people traditionally waited until marriage to have sex or even live together, because like it or not, a woman's body count actually does lower her sexual market value, as cold as that may sound, it's just the truth. It doesn't mean nonvirgins are totally incapable or undeserving of love, it just means they're typically going to have a harder time obtaining the high caliber man that would have given them the world had they saved themselves for marriage.
>>77283658I wonder if that's what drives the nastiness of normies, they have to out-nasty all the 50 dudes that their kweens had before
>>77280881>why does body count matterthe people that ask this unironically are never under 2 digts numbers. Why is it so hard for people to not be disingenuous niggers
>>77280918You're comparing having an active sex life with crime
>>77283683Nah.Girls don't think about it like that because they see sex from a man as without value and not worth remembering.All that matters is if the sex she's currently having is worth it at the current moment.It's why they think body count doesn't matter.The only people you MIGHT be compared to are the people who broke up with her when she wasn't ready to move on.
>>77280881Same people who are ok with paying rent, being stuck in traffic 4 hours a day, eating processed slop, etc.Just people who don't respect themselves
>>77280900>Their past doesn't matterThose exes still exist and plenty of relationships get blown up when they try to reconnect.
>>77280881>Why are so many peoplle ok with dating women who had sex before them?Maybe because they know more about life.
>>77280881I'm wondering what the number was. Anyway I'm not bothered because my count is around 30 women, 20 men. Even a fairly big whore can stay under 50, most women don't have the drive it takes to get to triple digits
>>77281324>master key memes until a guy actually fucks at which point the seethe just continues unabated>>77281373Theres no reason you can't do both. Fuck as many women as possible rawdog and ideally in a relationship with someone else so the odds of her keeping the kid are higher, but also have 1 or 2 you personally invest in.
>>77281675What confuses me is why, knowing everything we all do about women and the world in general, would any man not be willing to commit violence?
>>77282967>self reportI'm going to start getting muted if you dumb niggers post the same garbage every single day forever
>>77280881I dislike non virgins because they see you as one cock out of many theres no sacredness to the bond you see>Your just insecureInsecure about being lead on a wild goose chase? Well I guess I am so what
>>77281211Whether you spell it "weather" or "wether," you're both dumdums.
>>77284750Weither
>>77283968It's a comparison in that they both are cases where your past very justifiably affects you present social status. I don't think he made a moral comparison, he made a point that you're trying to shift attention from instead of properly deal with.
>be female>be virgin>pair up with male>he dies, gets bored of you, gets forced to leave, becomes an unworthy mate, or literally anything else that separates you>you must now go sexless for the rest of your life so that incels won't call you a whoreIf women said this about men, you wouldn't accept it. You're a hypocrite and a pussy who needs your fucktoy to be a virgin so she doesn't know what a real penis feels like before you tickle the first three inches of her birth canal. That's your whole story.
>>77284647Then post better statistics. "Women are bigger whores, just trust me" isn't exactly any more trustworthy.
>>77284808>If women said this about menSounds so far-fetched that it's laughable.
>>77284836My point exactly. Women, despite their 99% retardation rate, are still not low enough in the intellectual gutter to spew this kind of obviously disingenuous sour grapes bullshit and embarrass themselves.
>>77284844It's not out of retardation or lack of it, but comes from the differences of the sexes. Women want a dominant male that is popular with many females. Women talking this kind of stuff about men would require such a inversion of the order of things that it would be on the isekai gender.
>>77281027>>77280900kek foids are MAD>>77280927oh well well well if it isn't facts that roasties do not like :)
>>77284808You wouldn't get so worked up if you thought this was just the work of some small-dicked dudes worried about their pricks
>>77284899>enjoy getting under a narcissist's skin>this means i'm worked upat least you won't get skin cancer
>>77280900>insecurityoh so that's the new word we're using to shame pattern recognition in the current year. can't wait to find out which cope comes next.
>>77284911So it's narcissism now? I thought it was small benis
>>77280938he didn't even need to ask. she has that thousand cock stare.
>>77281253>confused faggot tries to speak for normal menshut the fuck up.>>77281301
>>77284808nobody said you had to be sexless, but it is reasonable for a guy to say that he would prefer not to date such a woman. Some men dont want that baggage and that is ok, why do you think otherwise? I want a woman to be a virgin so she loves me and only me. i dont see why that is wrong.
>>77281682Did you write this with a quill
>>77284647How else are you going to find out if people are virgins??? Follow teens around with cameras???
>>77280938Holy fuck it's hard to read that when they just flash a word at a time up, I can't read the subtitles and watch the actual video at the same time when they do that. Why are they doing that? Show a sentence at a time so I can flick through it real fast and then continue watching the video.
>>77281018It's funny because they use the ol' "you're insecure" defense even though them getting so assblasted shows that they're even more insecure about it kek. Case in point: >>77280938
>>77285469The nsa or Google or some shit 100% knows the real stats due to scraping all of everybody's phone usage, they're just not telling us
>>77285482It's faster that way.>http://onewordreader.com/
>>77281253>Think about how much more sex everyone would be having if women felt encouraged and safe to express their desires with men.Literally nothing would change. The people on this board will continue to have zero sex and the rest of the populace will have more. Basically the rich get richer and the poor remain poor.
>>77280881>sex is a very special thing, maybe even sacred>sex is mundane and casual like doing dailies on phone game, like junk foodSimple answer really, completely differing worldviews.
>>77284614Ah, so you're human trash, understood.
>>77285588It's like eating in general. There's junk food sex, there's professional Michelin stars chef, there's down home comfort food sex. No reason to restrict yourself to only one kind. Nor would anyone say "if you have ever had chicken nuggets, you can never have homemade food again" like for some reason they do with sex.
>>77280974have another, anon kun
>>77285615Human trash are the ones who are genetic dead ends, like you.
Why do women say it doesn't matter but then go off and lie about how many people they've fucked?
>>77285619It's more like being offered a glass of water vs being offered a glass of water somebody put their dick and jizz in to, you COULD drink it but which one are you gonna pick
>>77281349OK that's fine - I'd also like it if people were most honest and admitted this, and admitted its an issue, and made some fucking effort to admonish sluttery so we don't have to be miserable and accept such a travesty.But I guess ego and "dude you should get laid" takes precedence over long term happiness and security. Not INSECURITY with having slut women. Security. Imagine a world where most women were virgins and nobody fucks until they get married.I think we had something like that at one point. Curious.
>>77285625Nah, you are looking for attention on r9k, nobody is lower than you lmao
>>77285656Yeah, if men weren't such simps and actually rejected women for being whores, we could maybe set things right again by making women adapt to the new standards, but everybody just wants to get their dick wet and pump and dump, and imo most "committed relationships" are just pump and dumps in slow motion with some more feels thrown in to the mix for even more emotional scarring when the breakup happens
>>77285551No it's not fucking faster, they could display several words at once for the same time they would have displayed them in sequence in total but it would be easier to read.AND the way they're doing it MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO WATCH THE VIDEO AND READ THE SUBTITLES AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE IF YOU GLANCE AWAY FOR A MOMENT YOU START MISSING WORDS
>>77285639I'm jizzing in other dudes glasses of water meanwhile you are dying of thirst
>>77283663Well said and good post. This is going into my "If I killed myself, read these to understand" folder.
>>77284628May shock you to hear this but there are genuinely good people in the world.They're just not capable of hurting others like that.However, if they do it verbally instead, those are what we call cowards.
>>77284808Why even bring penis sizes into it?It literally reinforces the point, that after she got laid by a big man (All men she dates could have been good people) they are all then compared to that penis, and she loses attraction simply because they weren't blessed with girth and size, and it would have nothing to do with their character.Its honestly sad that you don't understand this. Men and women are not the same and should not operate under the same rights, things used to work better under a lesser evil scenario.Shit's fucked now and everyone's competing with each other and soon we'll be bashing heads in to assert dominance and get a female.
>>77285720So you create a scenario where more people should jizz in each others' water and eventually you will have no choice but to drink jizz water as well?Man the amount of gymnastics you dudes play just to avoid this simple idea that how you act will effect youIts like listening to songs of deviants bitching about their cheating gfLike no shit, that's the culture you espouse and the life you live to boost your ego, then you're surprised it comes back to you
>>77285697That's basically it. And you see people are hooked to this shit too, the negative feels.Most modern ills can be solved by taking away women's rights and taking them out of the workforce. Dead serious and with no irrational hatred towards women, just an objective analysis. (Personally though I have plenty of reasons to hate women, but I prefer having the correct answer first and foremost.)
>>77284808Why are you so upset if such low value men don't want to date you
>>77285800>>77285720>>77285639>anons arguing over how much cum they prefer to drinki came in all your waters and had a beer, idk what you fags are doing.>>77285816>men simp themselves into irrelevance>>>woman in the workforce is the issuewe can crack "women can't into accountability" jokes all day long, fact of the matter is they really can't be blamed. when you have a dozen guys in every chicks email begging to buy pictures of her toes, what do you expect?
>>77284783I'm not shifting attention to anything, do you see nothing wrong with comparing an active sex life to crimes?
>>77280881W H O R E SHORESsex becomes meaningless to women after the first few guys and they shift gears to using their body to get luxuries they want
>>77285850nta, but funnily enough, premarital sex used to actually be a crime in a lot of states and definitely still is in other parts of the world
>>77284808Women are so subhuman that tingles is all they care about yet wonder why we want a gf that hasnt experienced tingles
>>77285884When we believed in imaginary friends yes
>>77285927When you consider that a woman having just ONE premarital sex partner increases her chance of divorce from 18% to over 40%, and no fault divorce exists, it makes sense to wait until marriage even outside of a religious context. Look, people can and do act however they want, but let's not act like there aren't consequences or these sort of standards didn't exist in the past for a reason.
>>77285841I agree simpery started it. After all they got rights through them. Its hilarious to think about because women have the power only men deign to give them, and on the flipside you have men thinking women have all the power.To any guys reading this thread and wanting a change:As a collective if we all agree to stop supporting women things will change. The most difficult thing is everyone agreeing to it; its like the union issue. Any workplace will collapse if all the factory workers decide to fuck off, because all the fat cats with money can't do anything meaningful to keep it going.The small steps to take in your daily life to stop supporting women:-Don't blatantly agree with what they say just because you want to fuck them-Don't hold open doors-Don't pay for anything for her(She works too, remember?)-Don't look at them and give them attention (They say this is what they want but then bitch how they don't feel attractive to people)Basically just ignore them and call them out if they speak bullshit. Vote to take away abortions and birth control and any sort of governmental assistance (These are on your tax dollars mostly, not theirs as they do not work long hours or higher end positions)
>>77286064Modern day brainrot with every midwit thinking they are so much smarter and the past totally had it wrong (Despite being the bedrock for a lot of our advances)The biggest travesty is that we will be lost to our own hubris and unable to make the necessary changes to course correct. There's absolutely a fix, that's why we have intellect - we just can't apply it because we are thinking with emotions and ego.I view history as the most useless knowledge in this world, because despite having parallels everyone disregards it. Ce la vie.
>>77286064Bringing stats to a relationship is always a retard move. Conditions you at every turn and worse, it makes you believe your self fulfilling prophecy is some smart move on your part
>>77286109Ignorance is bliss. We didn't think so critically on these things hundreds of years ago because we had a ruleset in place for it.Now with sexual liberation and everyone being atomized, you have to think on many variables as to how someone can and will fuck you over.I'm not saying its a healthy dynamic, its just a necessary one. The statistics are born out of a necessity to understand and respond properly to modern life.The solution is to make pre-marital sex illegal. With beheadings, ideally. You may think I'm shitposting but severe issues need severe resolutions.
>>77286178The ignorance us you believing there's a way to have a successful relationship without lowering your guard. There isn'tFantasize with beheadings to keep sleeping well, it won't make any difference. You're a man, nothing really stops you from "buying" a gf in your ideal way. But you know why it wouldn't work
>>77286199My preference is spending 10-20% of my energy on a guard rather than 95. I know it always has to be up regardless of laws and culture. Still a stark difference with the effort required.
>>77280881Sleeping around means STDs.
>>77280881because it's overthis little social experiment for the past 100 years has destroyed everything it's over and never coming back. either become evil and be a brainrot npc like everyone else or resign from life. you will never have love or economy or a virgin loli wife again. even basic things like virtues such as honesty are obsolete now lying is the correct and encouraged behavior
>>77280881I only care if it's for marriage, I'll fuck the cum dump out of her otherwise
>>77280881Is it a big deal because you cant have sex? Id say i was promiscuous just to get a woman to admit if she was loose like its cool.Thats a fantasy though, anyone would rather be in a relationship than endlessly sift through potential casual mates like a hooker and black people.
>>77287497They didnt become too repulsive to raise kids with because of putstanding intelligence nor sheer physical beauty.
>>77281392How am I cucked by those standards?
>>77280909SPBPRegardless of whether or not purity is a virtue, relatability matters in a relationship. There is nothing wrong with wanting someone to be at a similar point in their journey to yours.
>>77285827Its the fear of the info reaching Chad and he understand how much of whores roasties are and be even more adamant on not settling for them
>>77280881I never met a bitch that didnt need a little guidanceSo I dismiss her past until she disappoints your highness
>>77281027I'd rather be an incel than a whore with a 30+ body count.That is fucking vile.
>>77284808Matthew 5:31-32:>It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.Mark 10:2-12:>And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.Luke 16:18:>Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.You get married only ONCE. Its a one time thing.Even if you divorce for whatever reason, you can never get married again, you can only choose to reconcile or remain seperated and single for the rest of your life, you cannot ever "Remarry" such a thing doesn't exist in christianity.BTW this counts for women AND men.So if your reasons for no pre-marrital sex etc are religious, make sure you get it right the first time around, there are no second chances with this one.
>>77281027>turned down more women than I've slept with>some were straight up 10s but hoes>come here to laugh at the retarded gender war>get called incel by femcel for having standards>lmao
>>77284836>>77284899>>77285016>>77285761>>77285827>>77285916>>77290181You know don't read replies when no motive exists to disagree with me and I'm not interested in an echo chamber, right?
>>77290376Okay, bye bye whore
>>77280909>The only reason their past bothers me is because I'm yet to experience what they already havesame. It's just getting asked to get tricked.
>>77280927are the stats similar for men? I'd assume having lots of partners makes both men and women less willing to settle down, and also indicative of emotional problems
>>77280881Sex before marriage is a sinIf she only had sex with men she was married to, and she is now a widow because they are all dead that's fine
>>77280881My girlfriend admitted to having a body count of about 30 so God only knows how many it actually is and in my anecdotal experience if you can get over the initial shock reaction it doesn't affect the relationship very much. She's better than the only other girlfriend i ever had who had a body count of just one. I just try not to think about the fact lots of other men were here first, i think if you're willing too look past a high body count you're better off not asking anyway.
>>77290950I have no statistics but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. I hate male whores as much as I hate female whores.
I'm a virgin and find these discussions about "no hymen no diamond" to be hilarious because even though I'm the rare virgin a bunch of guys are holding out for, I'd never date, let alone marry, a guy who only likes me for my inexperience.
>>77291310>I'd never date, let alone marry, a guy who only likes me for my inexperience.why not?
>>77291310I don't think you should either. You should find some guy that likes you and that you can like back, not someone that went after you because you were the only virgin to be foundI wouldn't pursue a woman just because she's a virgin either
None of it matters to me in the firstplace because I am incapable of having sex. I wouldn't say I am r9k's version of an incel as I have turned down numerous women, rather I just find them unappealing and disgusting. Their behavior and how they are propped up by other men solely because those men want to fuck them and their inability to grasp this concept, the fact that they won't until their youth fades away and more. I have a completely damaged view of them, I have no faith in any woman I might interact with and at this point, only fantasies and dreams when I go to sleep at night scratch that itch, the desire for romance. I am attracted to the image or fantasy of a woman, not actual women and slowly became okay with this because the alternative is a horrible person. Women actually get upset with me and express discontent over what my thoughts and feelings are, I put no effort into women and plan on keeping it this way. They are just gross to me.
>>77291310Good job of completely missing the point.
>>77291362Something about the idea of a guy only liking me because I've had shit luck with men and didn't have an experience most of my peers have had feels gross. Like he doesn't actually like me as a person, he just likes that he gets to have someone who's still "pure." Like he wants to take my virginity, but would never give me the time of day if it was already taken.I'm not against a guy finding virginity to be a bonus, I can understand that taking someone's first time is pretty hot, and I dream of my first time a lot too. I think it would be wonderful if my first time ends up being with the man I end up marrying. But that's all it should be, a bonus. Not the only reason you would give me the time of day.
>>77291389Women who are virgins beyond 20 years old have a bunch of underlying mental issues that her purity cannot make up for.
>>77291445I can fix themNow I have to write something else to be original. Ok, whatever. I'd take some neurosis over mileage. I have my quota of neurosis too.
>>77291469>Now I have to write something else to be originalIf you had quoted my post instead, you wouldn't need to write anything else. Try it with this one and post something unoriginal underneath it.
>>77291438That's understandable, being fetishized for being virgin seems repulsive. I would feel the same if some girl would be interested in me only because I'm a virgin guy as that mean - no longer virgin, no longer interested.
>>77291438It's less about purity and more a judge of that persons character based on a single fact. To me if a woman is still a virgin in her 20s it means she has some combination of self control and a reason why she isn't compatible with your average normalfag to the point where she's rather be alone. I'm more interested in the latter because I think I could only love someone who is equally as lost as me when it comes to making relationships with people. Romantic or platonic. I don't like most people. I feel like an outsider looking in most of the time so I imagine a woman in a similar situation with a modicum of self reflection would be a virgin.Hope that helps.
>>77291491>If you had quoted my post instead, you wouldn't need to write anything else. Try it with this one and post something unoriginal underneath it.Yeah that's a simple trick, didn't occur to me
>>77291521>Yeah that's a simple trick, didn't occur to meYes.
>>77291417people would just call you gay if you express this but I honestly feel the same. I had married women and women in relationships express their interest in me, which sickened me. women really love being unfaithful, why be in a relationship with one? you're guaranteed to get hurt.
>>77291529nta but it's really no advantageous to express such a povirl they will call you gay, here they will call you incel in denial
>>77291438Its less about purity like robbing you of your innocence and more so purity in a sense that I am completely disgusted by the world I exist in, I have had friends (HAD) that basically admitted to willing to try fucking my wife and betraying me in nonchalant ways. Not only that, but I see how men and women view one another and I cannot possibly date someone who's been in the pits so to speak. I would rather die. If you said you loved me, but there was no exclusivity and it felt like I was being domineered by a woman, or felt like she was trying to control me, I would flip out. Its not sexual inexperience for the sake of sexual purity, its I do not want to be involved in the disgusting world I live in. I want something vanilla, the shit I have been exposed to fucked my brain up and made me timid and feel a violent aversion towards. I really feel like people are fucking immorally left and right and want to avoid this like the plague. The only true indicator of this is virginity, inexperience, chastity, etc.
>>77280881I don't care about virginity really, but if a person has a proven track record of getting into bed with people they obviously don't love, what might be an indication that I'm NOT wasting my time with them? Holding hands? If fucking a hundred guys isn't debasing yourself because the most intimate physical act you can engage in with another person is--to you--"just sex", then OK, but I'm not interested in a relationship with domeone to whom nothing means anything.
>>77291445You're not wrong I'm probably insane but I haven't been diagnosed with anything or institutionalized yet, so it can't be that bad~ I found a guy who likes me though so I plan to give him my virginity and marry him and make myself his problem <3 Most men in this thread probably don't want to acknowledge that the virgins they dream of are virgins for a reason though.>>77291515>To me if a woman is still a virgin in her 20s it means she has some combination of self control and a reason why she isn't compatible with your average normalfag to the point where she's rather be alone.Fair enough. Not sure if it's so much a matter of self control for me rather than just being an unattractive autist who barely interacts with the opposite sex kek (plus an irrational fear of STDs and premarital pregnancy).But idk, I personally think things like body count should be a case by case situation rather than just "you're either a virgin or unlovable." I don't like the idea of finally losing my virginity only for things to not work out with that person and suddenly I'm forever tainted because I didn't choose the correct man the first time.But while I say this, I know the man I want to both give my virginity to and marry, so if things work out this shouldn't be an issue.
>>77291631>I know the man I want to both give my virginity to and marrywhat is he like?
>>77291631I am formally requesting that you dress up that plushie in glasses and a small black wig so I can see if it looks like an Asian girl.
>>77291669Sweet man I met online and who I've spoken to almost daily for over 6 months now. Seen a few pics of him and he's a chubby guy with a bit of baby face, but I think that's cute and I love larger guys, so him being on the bigger side is ideal. Apparently he's only about 2 inches taller than me (I'm 5'9) but since I'm tall, I didn't expect much od a height gap. He's also 7~8 years older than me. He's the kindest man, always worrying about others and putting others first, and he's always busy with work. I just wanna take care of him and put him first since he won't do that himself, and I wanna help make sure he eats well and help do chores for him so he can actually relax on his days off.We also have similar weeb hobbies so we're able to enjoy the same things and bond over them. He's also funny and constantly making bad jokes. Whenever I talk with him, I just feel at ease. I think about him day in and day out. I'm probably getting way too far ahead of myself when things are still online but I really like him and I know he feels the same, so I'm determined to make this man mine if it's the last thing I do.>>77291782Unfortunately that plushie is not mine, it's just a pic I stole. I have a lot of plushies, but not that one :(
>>77291631>But idk, I personally think things like body count should be a case by case situation rather than just "you're either a virgin or unlovable."This is the outlook of normal people yes. Only extremist retards "virginity or death". it's just that men rightfully dislike wanting to be with women that can easily jump from cock to cock while being emotionally detached because it's just a sign she'll leave you in the dust and are angry that these types of women mock them for thinking that.
>>77280881Because there's simply no other option for most men. Women lose their virginity on average at like 15 so unless you want to move to another country where that's legal and prowl your local school, you're basically fucked. To make matters worse, both sides of the political aisle, as polarized as they are on issues, label you an irredeemable pedophile if you want a wife who's a virgin. Be a good goy now and keep propping up the system that renders you unloved and underappreciated.
>>77291801Can I ask where you found him anon? Just so I can pretend to have a hope of finding someone like you to think about me like you think about him.
>>77291888The question is how much are they punished for extremism?Normal people don't care about what the height of their partner is, but some extremist women are "over 6'0 or undateable". They punish men with that preference Left handed people are never punished by dating standards. People don't care
>>77280900fpbp because it is obviously ironic and im surprised other people didnt catch that
>>77291888idk why you got trips on this post. sex-havers have proven to the world they can't behave and can't be trusted to do what they want with their own bodies. the world was a better place when "all or nothing virginity" wasn't an extremist position
i almost dumped my wife for having even 1 boyfriend before me, it was extremely hard to cope with, some other dude used my girl like a cum dumpster and is just walking around and can remember all of it
>>77291960We met in a discord server that gathered a couple 4chan anons from a thread on another board, believe it or not. Hoping you find your special girl, bro.
>>77292465Oh, I'm out of luck then. I hate those spaces generally. Thanks for replying anyway anon I hope you make him happy.
>>77291310it is well known that virgin women still want experienced boyfriends, but pretty much all guys are into virgin women to some degree so it's always going to be a factor if you admit to anybody
>>77292394Yeah it's tough. Hope you managed to overcome it, anon.
>muh STDs>muh pairbondingBoth true but its time to stop pretending these are the main reasons. The MAIN reason is because we know how women have sex. They have sex by being degraded. They like being choked. They like being slapped. They like being spit on. Nobody of sound mind likes the idea of their gf/wife doing this with other men.
If you marry a woman that isn't a virgin, the mother of your children has had another man's dick inside of her. Your children will be born from a vagina that another man fucked and coomed inside of. There's a high chance that the lips that you passionately kiss on your wedding day have been covered in another man's cum. There's a reasonable chance that another man's hairy balls have been in your wife's mouth. There's a nonzero chance that her cute little tongue has been inside another man's asshole. The cheeks that you lovingly kiss in the morning before you go to work have more likely than not been smothered by another man's shaft. Every time you make love, there will a comparison to one lover or another, whether consciously or otherwise. Every time you hold her tenderly in your arms and feel her soft skin against yours, and she tells you how much she loves you, you'll remember that you aren't the first man she's experienced this sensation with or said such intimate words to. The men who experienced her before you might jack off to the memories of how they fucked your wife every now and then. They may even be invited to your wedding and smile smugly from their seat as they watch you swear eternal loyalty and love to used goods they got for free and in better condition. From time to time, you may find yourself ruminating about her past, plagued by anxiety and lacking peace of mind. My brothers, I would hope to save you from such humiliation and suffering. Don't do this to yourselves, suffer not a whore and reject the roasties.
>>77292682She washes her pussy I'm sure
I like that my gf has sexual history it gives me an outlet for my cuckold fetishism without actual having to get cucked
>>77292964Highly underappreciated aspect. Also since I'm gay anyway the idea of another man's load all over her face and tits is the only way I can keep my dick up most of the time
>>77280881because i'm not scared of dicks and no matter what, if you get that virginal girl that you're always pining over, just remember. she's not yours, it's just your turn.
none of you faggots have ever fucked a virgin and it shows. it fucking sucks. >she doesn't want to do any of the fun stuff because she's scared. >can't go balls deep because she's too tight. >if she does do the fun stuff, it sucks because she doesn't know wtf she's doing. >you literally have to teach her. if you are lucky enough to fuck a virgin (and idk why you would. after the age of 15 it's pedoshit. and all chomos get the rope.) just ruin her for the next guy, just get your nut off and keep it moving. because when she leaves you (remember not if, when.) she'll either be a great girlfriend to the next guy, or morph in to a complete robocunt.
>>77293099Fuck her a second time?I wish all my problems were this easy to solve.
>be woman>pick chad>he dumps you after he gets bored by you>pick other fuckboy instead>he dumps you after he gets bored by you>repeat entire process 20 times>get pregnant eventually>impregnator gets bored of you obviously like any other guy did>acknowledge that you should have picked average guy instead>pikachu face when they don't want to raise your little fucker>find beta cuck willing to raise little nigga like his own some time after anyway>cheat on him anyway cuz bbc sucking habits kick intale old as world
>>77293099I'm not interested in the "muh experience" she got from pleasing who knows how many other men who just wanted to use her body and move on. It would be far more fulfilling to learn and grow together with somebody I've actually come to know and love instead of some wet hole
>>77293099>she doesn't want to do any of the fun stuff because she's scared. Not building up to that with encouraging words and mutual love and a desire to please each other>can't go balls deep because she's too tight. Once again, building up to that. Not easing her in and learning her sensitive spots as your one and only. Seeing which parts of her make her moan uncontrollably and which don't. Making her slowly go more and more crazy as you make her build up to orgasm because you want her to feel amazing. Hearing her squeal that she wants your full length because she can't take it anymore and you go balls deep for the first time.>if she does do the fun stuff, it sucks because she doesn't know wtf she's doing. Communicate to each other what works and what doesn't. Enjoy the journey together until you both know what makes each other tick.>you literally have to teach her. You don't get satisfaction in life building other people up? You don't want to tell your lover what does and doesn't make you happy? Sounds to me like you're a low effort nigger that doesn't understand that the hottest part of sex is the emotional connection and that building romance that leads to mutual desire to make the other feel ecstasy. But go have fun fucking used up whores I guess if you just want short term pleasure with less effort.
>>77293099>>she doesn't want to do any of the fun stuff because she's scared.I don't even know what this is referring to. Like choking her? I don't want to do that anyway>>can't go balls deep because she's too tight.I have a small dick>>if she does do the fun stuff, it sucks because she doesn't know wtf she's doing.I don't know either>>you literally have to teach herI have nothing to teach, we will learn together
>>77280881please top mentioning body count, i cant take anymore my ex took it from me now im forever dirty i will never love a woman againi will never have a virgin wife againi dont deserve i'm a whore nowfuck
>>77293156see, here's the problem with you incels. you immediately got pussy up on a pedestal. you put the carriage before the horse. all women are, until they prove themselves to be otherwise, are just potentially a wet hole for you to dump your nut in. and if they prove to be more, THEN you fall in love. if she doesn't, get your rocks off until you get bored of her then move on, she likely will.
>>77293194I'm not interested in casual sexI mean don't get me wrong, I totally understand it's exciting and feels good and all, but I'd rather have a deeper connection with somebody before actually taking that plunge, and ideally marry them first. If anything, you're the one putting pussy on a pedestal, making it the centerpiece of all of your relationships>get your rocks off until you get bored of her then move onthis is one of the reasons the world is so gay today, whores and their enablers like you
>>77293194Youre right, and I'm genuinely really curious how they got like this. Religious brainwashing? Disney poisoning? Or is it just raw pure fucking cope that has crystallized into minor insanity?
>>77281253most obvious /soc/ poster i've ever seen. disgusting.
>>77293433It's pretty logical to think sex comes after love and not the other way around. It's pretty insane to think you can shop around for sexual partners until you find one you love when it's historically, anecdotally, logically, and statistically not true. There has never been a society which values long term loving relationships yet also doesn't value chastity. If there were societies which valued long term relationships but didn't value chastity they were always loveless, like the Japanese for example where adultery was and is normal and virginity was never an expectation. Romance specifically is just exclusivity, without exclusivity there is no romance, just chimps humping each other's genitals. Ultimately, sex is rather antithetical to romance, romance is in courtship and not in the final act where the romantic tension is discharged through cooming, that's why the more a couple has had sex the more they lose those honeymoon feelings. That's why crushes can potentially last years while it's pretty widely known that one night stands are synonymous with ghosting.
>>77292608>but pretty much all guys are into virgin women to some degree so it's always going to be a factor if you admit to anybodyI mean I addressed that in one of my previous replies>>77291438>I'm not against a guy finding virginity to be a bonus, I can understand that taking someone's first time is pretty hot>But that's all it should be, a bonus. Not the only reason you would give me the time of day.I don't mind if a guy finds my virginity to be hot, I just don't want it to be the only reason he's dating me. I want a guy who would date me virgin or not, but will still enjoy being my first time.
>>77293099You don't understand because you value sex as something performative, ironic because later on you go on to say that sex is first then you love, how could you ever love if someone needs to perform for you, is love not an act of mutual giving and bonding through that rather than a selfish expectation for someone to please you? Someone who values chastity thinks whether the sex was good our bad, it's still good because you do it with someone you love. If I thought like you would, learning a new instrument would not be worthwhile because you suck at the instrument when you start, but the enjoyment is in learning something new. To take the analogy a step further, if I were new to tennis, playing another new tennis player sucks, we can't hit anything, the rallies don't last long, it sucks yet it's still fun because you're learning it with someone else and it's a bonding experience.
>>77293777>logicalWhat was intuitively logical to me is that if people like to fuck then there's no reason to go through 100 steps long normalfag larp ritual to get to do it. You guys obviously love the larp on an unreal level despite being autistics who despise the "social games" the rest of the time. It's been a relief to find that I'm not alone in the "fuck first, larp later" mindset.
>>77293975Is that even a valid concern? Nobody wants a virgin gf if they don't like her or think she's ugly so it doesn't even apply to 99% of "tfw no virgin gf" posters. It's like when I say I don't want a fat gf, that doesn't mean I like girls just for not being fat.
>>77291438>>77293975It's not like I would date a woman just because she's a virgin, it's more of a bare minimum requirement, if a woman isn't a virgin I refuse to even entertain the idea.I think most guys that want to date virgins feel the same, but of course it's misconstrued as a weird fetish, because everything that disagrees with a normies worldview has to be black and white horrid fetishization/objectification/misogyny etc.
>>77294093>>77294120Yeah, no normal guy would date me SOLELY for my virginity, but I don't want a guy who would be like "I wouldn't have dated you if you weren't a virgin." I want a guy who would still have dated me if I wasn't a virgin. I don't want the kind of guy who can only love and respect me because I'm a virgin.
>>77294072I think the real larp is thinking a relationship which foundation is built upon an instant sexual encounter, where all that matters is if you get off, which is entirely ephemeral, which is in effect just masturbation, can be turned into a long lasting relationship where you care about each other, ie love. Ultimately, you just don't believe in love, since you imply it's a larp, if so, why do you even bother trying after the initial sexual encounter if it's just a larp to you? Just continue having those sexual encounters without the baggage after, but you don't, because some part of you isn't fulfilled just having sex without the relationship part. Yet knowing how it started you know it would be a larp to love someone whom you treated as a meatsuit to masturbate with. And you misconstrue being cynical and crude with being honest, no, you're just cynical and crude, and you're not honest with yourself.
>>77294340I don't personally cut the line at virginity because I'm old but there's definitely a threshold where your past sex life says something about you. If I liked a girl but then found out she slept with a load of guys I would lose interest pretty quick, it's only natural.
>>77280900>insecurityso it's not insecure for a recruter to ask you about your previous job but it is if you ask the woman who live with you about her previous experience ?
>>77280881Virginity != Purity.The virgins I've known would basically do ANYTHING ELSE to please a partner if it would get him to chill out about putting his penis in her vagina.It's sort of funny that the girl I've been with who had the highest body count most preferred vanilla sex in missionary position (and it was still awesome), and of the three virgins I've known one was into cock worship and the other two loved to eat ass and one begged me to shit in her mouth.So, do you want the girl who had an ex shit in her mouth (but is a virgin!) or the girl who is normal (but your poxy yard is not the first ever inside her vagoo)?
>>77294846I want the virgin that's mine and only mine and will do weird shit with me and only me if we want>do you want the girl who had an exno, that's the point
>>77280881For me the higher a womans body count the less I take her seriously. Sure ill still sleep with her if her body count is undesirable but no way in hell is she hanging around after.
>>77295177This *exactly* what I was about to write for a post: the "taking seriously".Sometimes a town bike starts talking about romance, relationship, etc (not even with me as the boyfriend prospect, just casual conversation between acquaintances) and I'm thinking like "bitch, what are you on, you're not wife material anymore".I mean, even if she finds a guy who likes her (there's plenty for even the worse women), she'll not respect him or he'll be subpar, she'll be settling out of desperation, etc. The mere fact he likes her will make him seem like a fool with bad judgement or a loser who had to settle for an obviously rundown woman. The moment some chick who's better comes along he'll look bad with roastie by his side, even on her eyes.Not to mention how demoralizing it is for some dude to there be another out there who can say "I fucked your wife" to his face. There is no comeback for that, nothing. Even if nobody says this, they can look at your couple pictures and know you're a fool.
>>77295370>Not to mention how demoralizing it is for some dude to there be another out there who can say "I fucked your wife" to his facefor me, it's thisI just can't deal with it, even if as you said, nobody actually says this. I feel like this particular aspect of this issue is something women can't quite understand though
>>77280881I mean I'm okay with it but that's mostly because I've really been browbeaten by society into accepting it. Ideally yes I'd be able to find a virgin woman like me but again even I must admit that's not realistic AT ALL these days with how whorish most if not almost all women are. It's just how it is.And besides caring or not caring about body count never comes up in conversation with women for me, so it's not a problem. This is because I'm an incel who only gets ghosted and rejected. So it's not like caring or not caring about body count changed anything because there are much bigger factors at play (like how ugly and retarded I am and how hypergamous women are).
>>77283968>no rebuttal for>>Your past is who you are nowdummy
>>77291417>>77291529Both these points are good and I agree with them.I was aiming for a virgin girl, but as the virgin posted noted if you dare be honest about your desires they'll think you're a creep.So, basically, there's no winning move and I'll just shake my head and live in solace. I hope they enjoy the sex hungry men instead.
>>77280881**bares her hole
The main reason why people are so obsessed with being a womans first is because its easier to convince a virgin to accept significantly less if they dont know their extremely inflated worth. Plus the emotions and chemicals flowing from such a powerful and "new" experience will severely cloud their judgement. In a way its scamming someone, but with their life instead of a valuable object. You get them when they are younger, less on guard, less aware, less baggage, and convince them you are a catch when just like all other men, you really arent shit. As men, we know this, so we adjust our strategy accordingly. If a woman knows and have experienced that she can sleep with a random guy in a matter of hours, you suddenly have to compete with all men everywhere all the time. Anytime you have an argument is now an avenue for her to cheat. Scamming a woman out of her worth young is how its been done for thousands of years. I will also say this, even getting a virgin nowadays isnt a sure fire way to keep a woman with you. Theres a lot of pressure from the media and her friends to sleep around and a lot of them feel like they missed out young so they make up for it in their 30s and 40s. I have personally seen it with my own eyes. Best advice i can give, is to never ever see a woman as your but your turn. If you are on this board a woman will never love you, and you will never know love. If you expect that you will live in darkness and disappointment for years to come.
>>77280938look at those eyes, that's all you need to know
