>men have to change every aspect of their life and become a new person to escape inceldom
>>78289822Well, yes, but only because most men are such pathetic entitled losers who have no internal drive to actually make something of themselves. Men wouldn't need to change every aspect of themselves if they weren't such miserable garbage to begin with
Wah I have to get job/car/shower and talk to people in real life wah.
>>78289832Nah cmon, OP is exaggerating but compare the advice given to men to the advice given to women when dating.Expectations and advice for women: Be pretty, be pleasant to be around. And then usually advice is just to be even more selective or focus on yourself.Expectations and advice for men are: Being social, dominant, initiating, risk-taking, decently muscular, well groomed and dressed, having a better job than the average woman, having normie hobbies, and being skilled at things that impress women plus also usually sexually dominant. And the looks standards for men are rapidly catching up too.Obviously, not every woman expects that and most women don't expect all of that. But it 100% does feel like we expanded women's options for self-actualization and expression, while men's became even more narrow.
>>78289953Women are expected to put far more effort into looks, and into personality, whereas men basically just need to not be total lardasses and be able to hold a very basic conversation, and respect consent. That stuff you think men are "expected", those aren't the expectations unless the men are only going for stacys. The bar for men is basically in hell
>>78289986Ah yes, that's why there's so much material for women on how to have an attractive personality and non for men on how to change their personality to be more attractive to women.If the bar is in hell for men then why do plenty of men struggle with getting into relationships? If your reason is that men are trash, then you need to introspect and consider if it really makes sense that women are just better than men on average. Because that's a worldview based on nothing and just as dumb as the incel "woman bad" shit.
>>78290059The average woman makes more effort than the average man. Even low value women often make at least some effort to put on makeup, do their hair and nails, and develop social skills and social connections as well as pursue education/careers, whereas low value men will literally just sit at home playing vidya and smoking all day and then whine that women don't just fall out of the sky into their lapsBut by all means feel free to pretend I'm wrong and keep being hated by women!
>>78289822Escape Break freeEntice desires humbly humiliatey Sacrifice to exceed That was the point?! Burn the system to golden sheenNo rust
>>78289822but that would mean I would have to be not autistic :(
>>78290087Those aren't the averages you are talking about. That's like the bottom of the barrel.And yes even weed-smoking interest-less losers still get laid, but that's usually because their personality fits into the typically masculine expectation and they look good.The guys struggling to date aren't even necessarily losers, it's often just introverted guys, IT dudes who made no connections with women in university and can't through their hobbies. And whose personality is usually not viewed as attractive.Women's social skill requirements are also not high. You aren't the ones who are expected to constantly initiate, keep conversations going, and be interesting, but also make the other party feel safe, but also optimally build a bit of sexual tension so you aren't just friends. All you have to do is not be unpleasant.
>>78289986>The bar for men is basically in hellYou type out on a board full of guys that can't get laid if their lives depended on it. Incels are a real thing, even normie guys struggle to get laid from what i've seen. Yet femcels are practically non-existent.Women complaining about men 90% of the time is>men are all shit, there's no standards for them>source: the men i fuck
>>78289986Go back to the 90s if you want to feel validated you out of touch fucking dumbass, heroin chic hasnt been around for almost 40 years, no one gives a fuck how your arms are built. The pressure you feel to look good stopped being from 99% of men a long time ago
>>78289986Ahhahahhahhahahhaahhahahaha I'll never get tired of trannies coming on this board and posting stuff like this
>>78289986Yeah... its trans that pop out like this. You need women to keep being privileged so you can be privileged too. You invested too much into the system
>>78289986>Moids don't need to do much (except drastically change themselves and their lifestyles to the point where they'd be entirely different people). >All that effort will only elevate you to "bare minimum" btw. Otherwise, you're garbage.Yeah, you can fuck off with that BS.
>>78289986>don't be fat>don't get tattoosWow that's really difficult. You must be a tranny who think he's a woman. You're not. You are a mentally ill man twisted by hormones and surgery.
>>78289822you have to do that to survive in current day anyway, the pussy is just a bonus and it's not by any margin guaranteed which is the real problem of the whole ordeal
