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what happened to mbti threads? i miss bullying fagtaur
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>>79468703
tripfags ruin everything and they should all be burned especially the ones we have now, but yes all of them no exceptions.

>fuck tranny jannies
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It died because people made it not worth saving
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>regulars
>keep thread alive
> nerd anon be mean
> regulars leave
how could this have happened to us nerdsisters????
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>>79468703
Tripfags gonna tripfag.
Its is better that this isn't a general if people don't have interesting things to say, it always ends up in a circlejerk involving discord drama from tripfaggots.
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>>79469739
no regulars were ever mistreated
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>>79469739
Things are better ever since lie lack and simptaur were ran off. Sometimes you gotta salt the earth a little. The threads will come back better than ever. Make MBTI great again.
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>>79470696
wait they're gone for good?
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>>79471300
no, she's all over the board. Dunno about centy
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>>79471329
damn false hope strikes again
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>>79468703
gem meme, i feel like the enfp more and more as the days go by
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>>79471347
why do you even want centaur gone he was a good person
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>>79471300
Yeah, hopefully.

>>79471329
Is she? I don't browse the board, so I wouldn't know. Too bad then. I got excited she may have died.
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>>79471435
What made him good?
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>>79471490
sweet, loyal, friendly, genuine
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>>79471435
all the regulars sound annoying like they're posting here because they can't get kicked out of 4chan unless they go against the rules, bottom of the barrel personality
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>>79471509
All things you imagine him to be.
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>>79471516
Anyone considered a regular has an awful personality, yeah - save for Rox <3
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>>79471564
kill yourself rxy
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>>79468703
i reallyy like jungian functions, but when i get do these personality quizzes, i get very blurry results. as in if i were to do 16 personalities quiz multiple times over a month, i would fluctuate between N/S and J/P, because i usually get results that land 10% +/- of 50%.
im one of these: INTP, INTJ, ISTJ, ISTP
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>>79468703
It was taken out by the natural cycle of death and rebirth after reaching a critical mass of population. It was a very slow death which culminated over the course of like 3 years.
>>79471757
Did someone say Jung!?
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>>79471768
>It was a very slow death which culminated over the course of like 3 years
That's about when I last came here frequently. It was downhill from around that time.
>tfw you shifted timelines and are back to where prince's gf is no longer spamming threads and Donald Trump is president again
We are not going back.
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>>79471817
I find it to be amusing that everyone likes to blame a single person or even group of people for the downfall of the threads. But you can go back and track the massive population influx, it correlates with the Covid era. It grew too fast too quick and couldn't be sustained. You can actually go back to the specific thread that killed /mbti/, it was the thread that broke 1k replies back when threads were reaching the bump limit sub-24 hours. Then the population quickly fell off, and would fluctuate really wildly from like 45-120 posters per thread as people left the internet again due to covid not being a problem anymore.

Liminal spaces surely are odd quicks of the universe.
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>>79468703
i might be misremembering, but i think they got forced to go to a different board?
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>>79471970
Well yeah, it's rarely ever just a single person. A large macro factor like COVID brought in a bunch of socialites who were here because they weren't quite normy enough for Facebook but nevertheless still needed their social media kicks. Good riddance to them all, I say. Not just Prince's ex gf, though she was the worst of the bunch imo.
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>>79472038
It's not merely rare, it quite literally never happens. There has to be multiple confluences of events which all lead to the same outcome in order for something to have an effect. It will be quite interesting to see how these shifts in the underlying metaphysical reality playout in the collective unconscious.
I also think most of the influx came from /b/ and /biz/. /b/ because that was the OG popular board, and /biz/ because crypto was doing it's cyclical popoff.

I'm also fairly sure Purple was not the bad guy of the story, merely just a sower of chaos to rile up the people to cause psychic disturbances which keeps the waters constantly in motion.
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I tried some of my gf's weed gummies last night and I swear they turned me from an INFJ into an ENFP or something. I felt totally chill as if all anxieties left my body. Shit was wild. ENFPs have life on easy mode.
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>>79471329
I never see her anymore. Which threads so I can say hi.
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>>79472382
>It will be quite interesting to see how these shifts in the underlying metaphysical reality playout in the collective unconscious.
Lmao. Love the babble.
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Please let's leave Prince's ex gf in the past
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I hope Prince ended up getting Rxy. He was a good guy and always tried to uplift INFPs and other people. He deserves a good girl.
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>>79472453
That's terribly rude, you cannot just make fun of my babbles like that!
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>tfw youll never get dommed by rxy
I need her back
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>>79472382
Who the hell is Purple?
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>>79472504
I only make fun because I wish I could babble like that but know that I can't so my insecurity triggers and I cope by laughing.

>>79472527
I need her back first. You can have her when she's done with me.
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>>79472545
Syringa vulgaris. Who else could it possibly be?
>>79472559
Sounds like you need to cultivate your inner sight, and release your tight, neurotic grip on your mind.
If I had to guess, it's a leak from how you view the external world, using the same neurotic grip.

Trying to have control on the outcomes isn't a very good way to go about things.
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>>79472656
Wait, you took that seriously? LOL
Of course you did...
Your unmeritoriously assured, absolutist post spoke spoke well enough of your radiant ego. It is fitting that you should then lecture and attempt to guide me toward the path your armchair psychoanalysis tells you is best.
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>just a creater of chaos for a greater good
I'm sure that's how they or their simps would describe them/themselves.
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GOD, the fucking ad with the tied up anime girl in the school outfit with the rag over her mouth and the "pick you AI girl" caption is really distracting me and making me think seriously horny thoughts

I belong in horny jail, please take me on Roxy. You can use the cuffs
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Take me in, lol. You can take me on top too, though. Just take me
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DUDE I need more weed gummies. It's not fair she cut me off like this wtf
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>>79472778
Seriously? I don't take anything seriously, because nothing is serious in this grand illusory play we call life. But I do take things at face value.
Your description of yourself was done in a joking manner, obviously. But jokes that aren't true aren't funny. So why did I laugh? Obviously, because I understand what you're saying.

I need not guide anyone, I'd rather meander in the meadow.
If you need a lead, perhaps you should bring one.
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>>79473041
Can't we meander together??? You can bring the lead and put it on me. I can't wait much longer. Please please please
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>>79472778
>>79473041
Indubitably my post was merely in jest, but alas, you took it seriously all the same.

Why do you niggers type like this? Are you both INTJs?
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>>79473169
Like I said, you have to bring the lead. Wild steeds don't carry their own leads.
>>79473240
"Serious"? Surely not, because I knew it was a joke.
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>>79473240
>Why do you niggers type like this? Are you both INTJs?
I am an INTFJ doing his best INTJ impression but really I just look like I'm wearing a pair of those disguise glasses with the large nose and the fake mustache attachment that you pick up from the gaff store in the mall.
And she is an ENTJ queen. I need her to shape and order my thinking. She will save me from myself. Or I will be entirely and thoroughly consumed in the process
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>>79473461
You see, the problem you have is that you're starting from an incorrect position. Your opening move puts you in checkmate, why would anyone want to play that game?
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>>79473601
>the problem you have is that you're starting from an incorrect position.
Please, tell me more about the correct position.

>Your opening move puts you in checkmate, why would anyone want to play that game?
It appears so to you. Why not play, then? Why not find out if I've put myself in a disadvantageous position? Perhaps to me there is no greater joy than wiping the smirk off of undeservedly smug, self assured faces? The smugger the better the come-from-behind victory. I wanna come from behind is what I'm saying maybe
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>>79472399
You experienced temporary relief from trauma. The ego has its own conception of the body and binds us. If you glimpsed the goal, honor it.
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>>79473698
Well, you want the qualities of the correct position.. If you think of it like chess, the opening move doesn't display what your next moves will be. Because it's supposed to be a challenge. Do you know why you're supposed to look people in the eyes?
Because you can see where they're looking, and you can understand what tehy want from that.
>Why not play, then?
Because the outcome becomes obvious, obviously.
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>>79473891
Hmm, perhaps it's trauma relief. I just know that I was in what I would describe as a state of incredible relaxation. I wasn't high or anything. Just at peace. No worries. Carefree, almost. A deep feeling that everything is going to be all right. Surrending to what is and what will be. Like a trust fall. Not like a normal feeling that is you reassuring yourself that things will be all right when you feel they won't be. But a true feeling that everything will be all right and that everything is already all right right now.

I need those gummies lol, but she cut me off because I put a slice of pizza in the toaster to warm it for some reason that made sense to me in the moment but really just ruined the nice toaster I got for our apartment. But even then in that moment there was a lesson there, about loss and my fear of it. A toaster being lost even though it can be replaced and would turn to dust eventually anyway. Everything will become dust. We will become dust. Hopefully we'll become the dust that falls down into the rays of sun from an open window, giving some still-alive human a moment of beauty and perhaps contemplation rather than the nasty, dark dust underneath the basement washer and dryer that gets vacuumed once a year..
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>>79471768
>reaching a critical mass of population
3.5 posters instead of the usual 2.5 posters?
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Extroverts are inherently dirty people
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N-no one misses me~? :'3
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>>79471970
>You can actually go back to the specific thread that killed /mbti/, it was the thread that broke 1k replies back when threads were reaching the bump limit sub-24 hours.
I remember that, and i distinctly remember thinking that back when it happened
That was the last time /MBTI/ felt like a truly fun general to post in. I remember the thread right after that things started to feel off, as people started to whine about fixing things that didn't need to be fixed, starting all the meta discussion and drama that slowly eroded the thread in the course of the following years, and we never recovered from that
What year was it exactly? 2021? 2022?
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>>79468703
I wonder if I really am an ISFP. I feel like more of an INFP now
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>>79476029
ISFP SH?
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>>79476033
Not SH. I was a regular here though.
I've gotten so lazy. All I do is just play videogames all day and browse things on my computer. Feels like sensors are less lazy than that, but who knows...
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>>79476033
no I hate m*kou worst 2hu
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Type these two people
Also give your type and your take on this situation if you want to
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>>79476065
No, she best
>>79476308
>Type these two people
I can't type people
>Also give your type and your take on this situation if you want to
INFP and I think she's pretty retarded for not thinking her outburst wouldn't hurt him but his hobbies definitely seem hard to get into for a woman. Kinda complicated but overall just sounds like ragebait.
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just because you don't go to jail for it doesn't make you right
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>>79476308
ESFJ and INxP
ISFP and I think it's weird to suddenly get so mad over something your partner has probably been doing for years now and for some reason you have never discussed with him and resolved calmly although I also don't like it when people keep wanting to do things together all the time and share all their interests like you can go play with your airplanes and I can go draw some flowers but there's no reason to say such hurtful things over this
>>79476331
Kaguya is better
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>>79476393
She's a cute neet too. In my top 5
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>>79476402
they're cute together, I guess...
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Is this the next generation of regulars? All Touhou cuteposters?
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I'm an INFP-A btw
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bro... infp-a's don't real. all infps are turbulent
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>>79476441
>Is this the next generation of regulars? All Touhou cuteposters?
Dear God, I fucking hope so . . .
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Generation 1: Pre-Covid regs
Generation 2: Pandemic generation
Generation 3: Touhous
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Damn, that means I was an OG
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>>79476441
Can't get more based than that
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>>79476308
ESFP here, the girl was fucking BASED, just reading about this guy gave ME the ick! like, a grown man playing with LEGO? ewwww probably some INTP incel autist too. Good on her for crushing his stupid ego, hopefully she'll divorce him and realize she can do a lot better lmao
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>>79471555
he is factually all those things
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>>79476308
>soccer analysis tools
deserved.
>Type these two people
an emotionally unavailable womanchild and a pussywhipped manchild.
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>>79477560
>he is factually all those things
As you say
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>>79477106
consider me deeply upset and demoralized
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>>79478157
Don't let that weak bait get to you, Anon. Assuming, of course, that your words should be taken at face value and you're not being factitious.
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I'm so tired. When I get home from work and take my nap I'm going to imagine that I'm being held gently in her arms as I drift off into a peaceful and recuperative rest. It's a nice dream, but that's all it is. And I know this. She would never notice someone like me; the only ways I can get her attention are in cringe attempts which are undoubtedly turnoffs. You only get a woman like that's attention by either being Chad or by being graced by the luck of God - of which I am neither, to be sure.

Just one more good dream is all I want. Just once more. Then I'll stop being pathetic. I'll start tomorrow or maybe next week, but no later than next month or the new year.
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What type is the type to crave female validation, approval, and appraisal to the point of being similar to a crack fiend or other drug addict in need of their fix except they are consciously aware that they need to cultivate their own value internally rather than externally and their conscious mind is fully accepting of that fact but their wounded subconscious can be a persistent little fuck and unironically ironically feigns attraction and simps on online girls in an effort to disguise and plausibly deny the real attraction he's embarrassed for having??? What type is that? Asking because my friend is like this and I'm curious.
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And by real attraction I mean an unhealthy draw toward validation and the associated fleeting dopamine hits merely disguising themselves as attraction because how can you be attracted to someone you don't even know but rather only have a fuzzy impression created entirely by imperfect and biased interpretations within your own mind?
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Real sleep dep hours in here
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not bumping this shit
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>>79473240
Who made this chart?
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>>79478884
A totally unbiased xxTP
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>>79478607
idk probably infp or infj
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>>79478901
Were they in some kind of psychologist field?
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>>79478921
Is it at all possible they could be an INTJ?
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>>79479094
yea you can be any type and have those same issues any xnfx is more prone tho
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Stop samefagging.
>orgenal
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>>79478607
>What type is the type to crave female validation
All boys seek female validation, dummy
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>>79474682
Probably closer to 3.6 posters.
>>79475531
If I remember correctly it was late 2021. The increased popularity spawned a whole bunch of discords, and people talking about the discords in the thread spawned the meta discussion, and a bunch of hate from anons who like being anon, which caused the drama.

Somewhere along the way, peoples sentiment towards the thread changed so much that the culture changed, and things like the end of thread shenanigans just disappeared. The discussion warped from talking about mbti to talking almost exclusively about the people inside of the thread.
It sure was fun when the majority of people talked about the topic, even if they were wrong about it.
>>79478607
This isn't related to type, anon. At least not in the way that you think it is.
This attention seeking is related to feeling, but it could be any feeling with any attitude. It could be inferior or dominant feeling, and it could be introverted or extroverted.
What it is showing, though is a psychological complex. Specifically complexes related to the mother. Maybe some unresolved trauma related to the mother, or maybe their mother was overbearing like a hover mother. Who knows, though.
There's also hints of big problems with lacking self esteem, and the inability to differentiate himself from the opinions of other people. Which is to say all of his self worth is tied to the women around him.

What is showing is that he is an undeveloped mama's boy.
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>>79479998
I don't. I'm bored of it. What am I.
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Do you guys think an INTJ is more likely to draw or write novels?
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I avoid getting to know people better, because I don't care about how they are as it's never worth it in my experience - they're insufferable, boring, or really need therapy
I want to have the best time and pay some respect for their social efforts, so I prefer to deal with their perfect masks they craft for their usual surroundings
When the mask slips, I pretend to not notice. Also it's fun to feel when people get low-key weirded out by this
What's my type
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>>79480129
>This isn't related to type, anon. At least not in the way that you think it is.
Hmm, I think I would avoid saying that all of his self worth is tied to the women around him. "All" is a strong word which lacks the nuance we regularly see when we inquire a bit deeper into things. "Inability to differentiate from the opinions of others" likewise doesn't seem to land. It's not so much the opinions of others that have hold on him, which he can easily discount, but more so is the unresolved trauma you brought up. It seems to me that he is seeking to heal those wounds by attaining the love from neglectful, emotionally unavailable women - similar to his own mother. If he can win their love and approval, they function as a stand-in or representation of him finally winning his mother's love and approval. It's more than just about the opinions of others, especially since this involves only women, and, more to the point, specific types of women. For who could be more unavailable and unwinnable than an online "woman" he will never meet and who will never fancy him? He also has a habit of down-valuing the love he from women he does receive. In fact, he's even married. Yet he discounts their love because they love him, and are thus biased by their love. Their love makes their love have less value. It's paradoxical and nonsensical. He needs of love from women who won't love him but will immediately discard it the second he receives it. Quite the conundrum. But were he unable to differentiate himself from the opinions of others in a general sense, then he would not discount those opinions that don't satisfy his quest for psychological remedy. His inability, were it such, seems exclusive to only those instances in which his subconscious wounds pull him.

I thank you for sharing.
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>>79480668
heavy chatgpt vibes lmfao
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>>79480718
>heavy chatgpt vibes lmfao
LMAO. As an autist, I kind of take that as a compliment
:)
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>>79480837
I've seen one person write like a bot would even before bots got accessible
truly grim
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>>79480849
What do you feel is grim about that? Do they feel to you less human in their interactions? We INTJs have feelings, you know?
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>>79480906
actually I don't think that was intj
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Tachibana is the sexiest reg and that's inarguable
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>>79480975
So glad we're having you back, goontroon
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>>79480439
Tough to say what type, but there's definitely hints of inferior feeling.

The main body deals with some sort of complex related to the inability to make genuine connections. Maybe some sort of projection which deals with your own insecurities around being vulnerable and unwilling to show the world your "unmasked self", likely because you don't like what is beneath the mask. Which explains why you like to be anonymous, and why you like to poke at other people's masks.
The most common theme is "the avoidance of emotional risk" and a sense of superiority which is used as a shield to avoid the emotional risk of being close to people.
>>79480668
I still think "all" is the appropriate word.
>If he can win their love and approval[...]
You are saying exactly what I said. And what he is doing is the opposite of healing. The only thing he is doing is making the wound deeper and allowing it to spread into other parts of his psyche like an infection. What you're saying is sort of like an alcoholic binge drinking for days on end in order to cure their alcoholism. All they're doing it becoming more of an alcoholic.
Again, there's a reason I used the word "all".
>But were he unable to differentiate himself from the opinions of others in a general sense, then he would not discount those opinions
I see the logic you're using here, but sadly that isn't how it works. Because he views himself as unworthy of being loved, due to the relationship he had with with mother, which you've mentioned a few times here.
Really, what I mean by "differentiate himself from the opinions" is that his entire sense of self, all, and I mean ALL of his perceptions of himself are completely controlled by the way other people view him. His belief is that if he changes the way other people view him, that means he changed. Which is why he tries so hard to get people to love him, and then rejects that very love.
Am I making sense?
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Good night /MBTI/
Hopefully you'll still be there for me to say good morning
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>>79481196
>I still think "all" is the appropriate word.
And I still disagree. Nothing beneficial is gained by such an absolutist take except the exclusion of the other ways in which he *does* define and legitimately feel self worth. Things aren't black and white like that. There are degrees and portions to everything, especially regarding the psyche. Yes, his subconscious mind does derive *some* of his sense of self worth from the approval of disapproving women, but there are other instrinsic qualities in which he does feel worthy. What is gained by this absolute, invalidating perspective of yours that isn't also gained by the nuanced one? His subconscious need for female approval is nevertheless present and is a problem in either perspective, whether it's a only one avenue for self worth or is one of several avenues he derives worth from. I see no reason for the exclusionary perspective. Does such a black-or-white, all-or-nothing lens help you to understand people you might otherwise not when you are only afforded a cursory glance into the inner workings of their mind? Surely it's a matter of convenience due to the nature of discourse on this medium, and is done only for expedience. Right?

>Am I making sense?
Were people one-dimensional, simple concepts easily affording themselves to your one-dimensional perspective rather than being the multi-faceted, complex individuals they truly are, then yes, it would make sense.

>And what he is doing is the opposite of healing. The only thing he is doing is making the wound deeper and allowing it to spread into other parts of his psyche like an infection. What you're saying is sort of like an alcoholic binge drinking for days on end in order to cure their alcoholism.
Again, I wouldn't say it's the "only" thing he's doing. Yes, it's a part, but there's also some method to his madness. To say that no exploratory efforts are being made, nor valuable discoveries found in the process, would be incorrect.
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>>79481196
I'd maybe feel like murdering whoever I'd open up to a bit too much. It's not BPD right?
>Tough to say what type, but there's definitely hints of inferior feeling
Ok then what could I get typed by?
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AAAAAAAAAA I realized Turbie is a big black man with a fetish for small white girls(male) (like me) omgomg >.<"''
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>>79481233
Goodnight, Anon! We'll keep it bumped for you.
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>>79481545
>Nothing beneficial is gained
The thing that is gained is the awareness of how he operates. All self worth tracks back to the same origin. Because all self worth tracks back to his mothers opinions. What I'm saying is the foundation, which is his trauma, is the foundation. If you go up to higher metaphorical floors, from the perspective of being inside the floors, the foundation cannot be seen. Yet, it still props up the entire building, and is what allows for movement within said building.
The problem is that he doesn't know how to change the foundation, since to disrupt the foundation will destroy the building placed on top to an unknown and unknowable degree and since he perceives himself to be the building he makes changes to the building, like adding some paint, or a changing a floor, and asserts that things have really changed.
All of this is rooted in his desire for control, which he expresses most clearly in his desire to control how other people feel.
>invalidating perspective of yours
The only reason it feels invalidating is because it's a poke at the ego.
>one-dimensional
Let me clarify something, I don't mean that "this set of behaviors is all this person is categorized by", which appears to be how you've interpreted my use of "all".
What I mean is, "inside of this set of behaviors, the root cause is the same. And his response to the root cause is ALWAYS the same."
Can he change that? Yes.
Will he change that? I don't know.
>"only"
Don't get too overly focused on singular words. It's like an equation, A+B=C. So long as A+B, then C will be the only outcome. That isn't to say that things cannot be framed into a higher resolution. The size of the equation is theoretically infinite because the space in which it exists is infinite.
>>79481589
I don't use the modern system of categorization, so I don't really know about BPD. Old thing good, new thing bad. Unga bunga.
>what could I get typed by?
Two clear examples of your conscious and unconscious.
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>>79482233
>The thing that is gained is the awareness of how he operates.
That's curious. How would the limited perspective help you toward a better understanding of how he operates? Thus far I've only spoken on how a subconscious influence presents itself within him and how it influences his feelings. For me to say that he devalues love from the women who love him does not, by necessity, mean that he devalues that love in its entirety. You imagined, on your own, him going all the way with it. You wouldn't know. Yet you claim to. I know him well, and yet you think you know better than someone who knows better than you.

>All self worth tracks back to the same origin. Because all self worth tracks back to his mothers opinions. What I'm saying is the foundation, which is his trauma, is the foundation.
This is simply incorrect. If any and all self-worth tracked back to his mother's opinion, then he would not derive the other parts and pieces of his self-worth from internal the sources he does - which you are disregarding for *reasons*. The mommy issues are not the end all, be all of his self-worth. Your insistence they are is baffling to me. If healing is best found by seeking an understanding of the mechanisms behind unhealthy behavior, then an all-encompassing approach which looks at all of the involved circumstances and influences, in their entirety, rather than reducing them down to a convenient "it's all this one thing only" conclusion, as you do, would serve people better. Not to insist, but rather to inquire, is what is best. And thus far you've made no inquiries, but only conclusions you'll not budge an inch from.

waiting 900 seconds for this post to clear is absolute aids, i swear to christ. we can be absolutist there. usually I only phone post from work, but gg Anon, this convo was at least engaging enough for me to continue it on my personal computer. you've popped my 900 second cherry, congrat. good shot bro
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>>79482233
>The only reason it feels invalidating is because it's a poke at the ego.
No, it's not only invalidating because it feels like a poke at the ego. It's invalidating because you are saying that all of the other ways in which he derives self-worth are invalid non-factors. Of the things internal and external from which he does feel worthy, and of which are not relating to the mother, you are saying they are not valid. This invalidation is not a feeling but is rather an objection, identifiable action you are taking. It's invalidating because it satisfies the qualifications for what defines invalidation.

>And his response to the root cause is ALWAYS the same.
And you would know it's "always the same" how? Please share the requisite information to your conclusion which you and not me are privy to.

>Don't get too overly focused on singular words.
When your takes, perspectives, and formed conclusions hinge entirely upon singular words, I will focus on them. I will focus on them because the conclusions made fall apart quite swiftly when the premises from which they rely on are faulty, singular word absolutist takes that are poor attempts at the realty we're both supposedly looking to understand. But then I get ahead of myself here, because you already understand everything.

>That isn't to say that things cannot be framed into a higher resolution.
Are you admitting here that your "equation" aka your conclusion is only valid when you shift your perspective to the most limiting, lower resolution one? Of what value is it to say that things can be framed in a higher resolution if you refrain from and avoid doing so when it would make a difference?? You hold the kaleidoscope in your hands. Don't we serve those on their healing journey better when we look at how our equations can fit the person rather than looking to fit the person within the equation we've already pre-assigned to them and have an egoic need of them fitting?

>2233
obligatory checked
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>>79478633
Well, in my case, I've never been close to anyone due to practicalities in my functioning. Fantasies live without disappointment, and the brain does try to be human. I think I am now dead inside.
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>>79483063
>I've never been close to anyone due to practicalities in my functioning.
What do you mean by practicalities in your functioning, Anon?

>Fantasies live without disappointment
Indeed they do
:'(
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>>79483161
I have a turbulent state of mind, repulsion to intimacy, uncommon interests, and deep uncomfortability in my own skin. I'm not sure how to talk to people. I subconsciously avoid others. I have a deep feeling that I am unwanted around others, and I don't get dopamine from socialising. Oh it's not that bad, but I feel terribly out of place around others.
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I should probably stay away from this place because I always get unhealthy from it, it was nice talking to you. All the best.
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>>79482956
>How would the limited perspective help you toward a better understanding of how he operates?
Well, much to your credit, you painted it quite clearly, even if it wasn't the entire image.
>I know him well
I assumed as much, it's why I trust my conclusions.
>This is simply incorrect.
I didn't say he's wrong in his approach. I just said he's making his wound bigger. Sometimes going deeper into the forest is the only way to find the escape.
>waiting 900 seconds
>Imagine not multitasking 24/7
:^)
>>79482968
I'm saying they are undifferentiated, not that they are invalid or non-factors. They are the same thing. Even "the other ways" are motivated and influenced by that aspect of his mind. The trauma is still trauma, as you've said. It is unhealed, it is alive, and he still identifies with it. A little piece of land staked on the ego dedicated to being wounded.
>how?
Simply because he has not resolved his trauma, and the fact that he allows that trauma to control his feelings and/or actions.
And you're privy to all the information, you're the one who said it.
>because you already understand everything.
Oh, no. Not everything. Just a slice of everything. Everything is way too much.
>Are you admitting
Nope, just explaining the foundation of the structure of "trauma".
And I didn't go to a higher resolution because it changes nothing except make things worse. If you're trying to read a book, you don't place it on the other side of the room and attempt to read it. You zoom into it by getting close so that you can differentiate the individual words from the page itself.
>we look at how our equations can fit the person rather than looking to fit the person within the equation
An eloquent description of archetypes.
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>>79483994
>I assumed as much
Yeah, you assume a lot lol

>And you're privy to all the information, you're the one who said it.
Exactly. I asked rhetorically. Being privy to more info than you are -- in addition to likely having a lot more lived experience -- I know how hyperbolic, magnified, and ridiculous your claims are and how ignorant your "understanding" is. I'd laugh if only the claims made weren't intentionally outlandish. I mean at this point I'm just reading you prattle on and on about things you know little about, but you nevertheless feel self-assured you do. It's almost like being at the local pub and listening to a regular storyteller spin the yarn about his mastery of a subject he clearly knows little about and you're just waiting for him to be done so you can say "yeah, that's really something." I'm not even sure who you're talking about anymore here, because I know it's not the person originally the subject of this conversation. You have removed that person from the discussion and have substituted your own distorted and mind-warped impression - your straw man, if you will. Then you go on and on about how this straw man must be, how he allows his trauma to control him (lol), how he must operate, how he must behave, how he's not healing his trauma (as if you know), et cetera. I don't know what will get through to you that you don't know what you think you know if my saying that your speculations are wrong seemingly has little to no effect and you're resigned to continue on telling the story about this person to someone who knows him better than you do. It's an absurdity; and if I wasn't so autistic I would have noticed your lack of good-faith intention earlier and I would not have entertained you reaching for the stars for as long as I did. It was only that you weren't outward in your derisions and mocking display that I mistook it for being the genuine interaction it neither was nor would ever become.

It was *almost* a good conversation.
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>>79484430
>you assume a lot lol
You assume I assume a lot. I assume less than your average person. I just have the ability to observe connections which are not explicitly obvious. Other people tend to believe I am assuming since they lack The Sight.
>about things you know little about
Who's wearing the assuming pants now? You know, this is like going tree-watching and looking at trees I've never seen before. Sure, I don't know the specific species of that tree, but I can say for sure that it is in fact a tree, and from that I know how that trees roots work and how the leaves work, etc, etc, all because those things are universal.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was talking about a person whose trauma is completely unique and doesn't follow any of the underlying principles upon which the concept of trauma is based. Especially when compared to another person who has the same exact type of trauma, and when they exhibit the same exact behaviors and motivations.
No, simply, it must not be true! I simple MUST be assuming and strawmanning out of poor faith! It couldn't be that I know what I'm talking about because I have seen this exact behavior many times before! Simply impossible!
It couldn't possibly be so that, *gasp*, I have had extensive social interaction outside of a computer screen and love to analyze people! It couldn't possibly be that my literal hobby is observing people! It cannot be so that archetypes explain people perfectly!

I love that internet people always react the same way to this. It's always the same weird projection.

Oh, you're an ISFP, btw.
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>>79484613
HOLY KEK.
Epic. Oh, you forgot to watch my pieces ..
:)
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The eyes can misdirect, if you didn't know
though that might be giving you *too* much
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>>79484682
Did I forget to look, or am I just giving you want you wanted?
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>>79485071
What a meaningless distinction!
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>>79485210
Thank you, Capitan Obvious! Does anything else stand out to you?! Something so obvious even the trees can see it?!
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>>79485210
You're raping him? Hot
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>>79485354
Yeah, he got raped ez. I think he liked it, though his pleasure doesn't matter to me
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Hmm, nope. No penetration. A fun little game,
Though...
I'm still like three steps ahead.
Can't catch me cause I'm in ginger bread-
Planner with no kind of manners
See how I move like Uhh... *stammers*
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I just reread the anonzzle pastebin kino and it goes so fucking hard, holy shit
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>>79476308
The wife was a bitch about it but she admitted that she simply said it out of anger and apologized multiple times. The husband, while initially right to be angry, is now being a baby bitch about it. He needs to accept that not everyone is going to like what he likes and enjoy his hobbies on his own terms. His wife also needs to mellow out a bit and throw her husband the occasional bone and listen for a bit even if she finds it a bit boring. Marriages require compromise.
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I don't like touhou in specific but I have got cute shmup girls if you are into that.
Actually, which types would enjoy these games? Provide in-depth Jungian explanations.

Myself, I think I'm some sort of introverted intuition type not sure exactly which one but highly relate to that. I 1cc'd several non-touhou games, mainly CAVE but not limited to.
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>>79486446
Only sensors are good at videogames though
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>>79486446
What's wrong with 2hu
>>79486507
All types can be good afaik. If ur mom is ESFJ why is she bad at them?
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>>79486507
Really? There doesn't seem to be a prevalent type in terms of general videogame skill. But I do wonder about which ones take interest in shmups or danmaku in specific and which functions might naturally click with their gameplay style.

>>79486517
Low quality, excessively focused on pure dodging as opposed to stage and enemy interactions, boring shot types(with a few exceptions), skills are barely transferable... hardly counts as shmup in my book.
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What do you newfags think if enneagram?
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Yo, If I am wondering if I should tell my mistress I've been fucking another mistress or if I should just wait until they accidentally meet one another

>>79485652
Yo I post that shit
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>>79486591
It high quality tho.
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>>79476638
Any interpretation that doesn't include the leftist discord/lilacs flooding and the umikekos flooding with AI sloppa is history revisionism. Some good users left during kekos, the rest left during lilac, and then many lurkers left during the silence.
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>>79481700
>We'll keep it bumped for you.
Thank you anon, that was very nice
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>>79485713
She didn't just snap at his hobbies, she says she openly questioned why she even married him, that's not the kind of things you say to your significant other in a fit of anger if you don't mean it
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Back at the PC finally.

>>79486626
Nah. Here is how high quality shmups look like.
https://streamable.com/lvoi9p
Player: Yours truly, with my least favorite ship type because I have not beaten the game with this slow no DPS garbage yet.
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>>79486815
Lmao what the fuck what the leftist discord? I knew we had a bunch of leftward fucks in here but I didn't know they created their own discord echo chamber. lolz
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These threads are so much better without prince's ex gf shitting up the place.
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>>79487258
Always glad to be of service
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I don't think words can convey how much i wish i was never fucking born
t. INFP
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Prince's ex-gf really did liven up the thread
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How do you guys feel about your flipped type?
Not sure if there is a better name for it, but just switching your 1 2 / 3 4 like this.
I'm an intp I really like ISFJs they seem very different from intps but I do feel a significant kinship with them. Much more than with ENTPs.
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>>79488121
That's just your inferior type. A lot of the time when someone gets triggered, their inferior comes out.
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>>79488121
>your inferior type
Rude
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>>79488606
>>79488452
i dont think that naming makes sense, their dominant function isn't your inferior function?
I could see calling ESFJ the intp inferior type because ti/fe are swapped.
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>>79488073
stop copying me
t. INTP
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>>79488088
She always reminded me of the types of people who go on those "you are not the father" shows. She was a bundle of constant drama. I'll miss watching the Trainwreck that was her life.
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Type this woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1HjbXl0O-U
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>>79471435
Biggest incel attention whore horsefucker that ever lived.

>>79471300
At least she isnt spamming as much anymore.
Letter threads became somewhat useable again, even if faster dying.
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s*phie being eaten by his cows
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>>79489247
But cows are herbivore
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>>79489317
Normal cows yes. But not killer cows.
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>>79489372
>killer cows
From outer space?
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>>79489317
uuuh s*phie is a vegetable because he is fucking dumb and retarded and useless lol
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>>79487687
>>79488993
come on now sugar, don't be so hard on yourself
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>>79489806
>s*phie is a vegetable because he is fucking dumb and retarded and useless
Fair point
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My favorite part about Sophie is how he is a sissy slut
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>>79488624
They're still the inferior types of each other. The dominant pair of INTP is T/N and the dominant pair of ISFJ is S/F. Doesn't really matter if you flop the order to be T/N or N/T, the pair is the still the same and the inferior pair is still the same.
ISFJ and ESFJ are both the inferior to INTP from the perspective of INTP.
This is because functions don't exist in a vacuum, they come in pairs.
>>79489065
Interesting, the first thing that her personality shows is anxiety. There's a very heavy lean to the feeling side of things, which is to be expected. Seems to be an extroverted feeler, but it's hard to tell. But, she seems to be a judging type with how ordered everything is. She even sits directly in the center of the camera's perspective. Everything is very "neat and in it's place." Probably xxFJ. And she has a tendency to, simply put, look at things in different perspectives. Which is very much a habit of the intuitive type.
Probably ENFJ, if I had to guess.
The most interesting thing about this is that she's telling a story, which you can see very clearly when she expresses emotion in her vocal intonation. The topic is just a medium for that story, a way to express something she's analyzed within herself, and now needs to be given to the world. Also very Fe.

Reminds me of something.... something that I can't quite place my finger on.
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>>79489247
>>79489806
based
>>79490457
kys now
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>>79490691
>goth ENFJ
That's a first
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ISTJs are not NPCs
Si-Fi is a powerful combination that allows the ISTJ to feel and experience stuff no other type can even fathom
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>>79489933
I am not prince's ex gf and I don't think the other anon is either. Go try to be tsundere for her elsewhere.
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>look at intp
huh that's pretty much me
>do test again months later
>look at istp
huh that's kinda me
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>>79491560
Righty-o. Might as well if she's not in here.
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Good night once again, /MBTI/
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>>79491671
Yep. Bye
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>>79491259
Not even close to the first. It's a pretty common archetype. But, that's why basing type on something as superficial as style is a big no-no.
>>79491269
Very based take. You're right---
BUT, it's mostly just Si that allows them to experience things no other types do. Si is such an abstract, subjective function. As such, their perceptions can be wildly, wildly, different from other types. Similar to an Ni type, the difference being that intuition largely uses archetypal images. Whereas Si references the sensory images.
Feeling doesn't really "experience" in that same manner. It's just a judging function. It merely judges the experiences as "something", namely, good or bad or enjoyable or not. But, since feeling manifests as a sensation (which is what emotions are, they are sensations in your body), the Si types perception of those feelings can be wildly different than other types.
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>>79492139
Goodnight! I'll stand on bump watch until my shift is over.
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is lilac the deepest/most complex reg?
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>>79492563
Do you think that Kam and Ika thing is her performance?
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>>79492563
She's a very surface level person. Even Sophie has more complexity.
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>>79492160
You're right that typing on style isn't valid but I used to be into MBTI for quite a while and have never heard ENFJs be associated with goths. They're usually viewed as the nicest friend you'll ever have or as the mommy gf. Goths are almost always associated with Fi doms.
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>>79492678
ENFJ goths might be more the perky goth subtype than the cold brooding variety.
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>>79489806
they havent done anything to you. stop talking about her.
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>>79492666
Just call him an ESFJ and you'll see how complex he is. :^)
>>79492678
That's because most people type based on aesthetic rather than any sort of principle. Which is just another way of saying people type based on style. Which is to say they type based on their sense-impression, since most people are sensors.
This concept extends beyond mere stylistic choices in the appearance, it even goes to aesthetics like "mean" or "nice". Which you talked about here:
>They're usually viewed as the nicest friend
The problem with this is that these aren't traits of an ENFJ. ISTP can be those things equally as frequently, just like any type. It's like when people say "ExTJs are mean" or something like that. It just doesn't make any sense, but it does appeal to the senses.

People have this tendency to take generalities like "Fi types are generally broody and dark" and paint that generality to all Fi types like "All Fi types are dark and broody, and it's only the Fi types that are that way."

Personally, I blame the school system for this for not teaching kids the principles behind the answers, rather than just the answer.
But, I digress.
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>>79493414
That was over a year ago, don't dig up old stuff out of nowhere
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>>79493429
Don't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad!
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>>79493460
Yeah thankfully, you didn't make out your mom to be a nice lady
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>>79493473
Yeah, niceness doesn't get you far in this world.
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>>79493414
You speak a lot for someone who knows little. Then again, people like that always do
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Movie Anon
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>>79493532
So, if I said little, that would mean unequivocally that I know a lot?
Interesting assertion, albeit baseless speculation.

But, alas, I'd rather be seen as a fool than hold my tongue and to be thought wiser than I were.
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>>79493599
>So, if I said little, that would mean unequivocally that I know a lot?
Would it?
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>>79473240
>I got INTP

Sick
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>>79493626
That's the implication being made.
>Then again, people like that always do

Are you really asking me to explain the joke because it went over your head?
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>>79493709
>That's the implication being made.
Was it?
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>>79493727
But, of course.
Unless the logic of the equation is escaping you...? :^)
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>>79493745
What logic? Would you explain it?
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>>79493799
Would I? I don't know, what reason would I have for doing that?
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I guess he's unable
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But, I did explain it, I just explained it in few words, and since people who talk only a little know a lot, the thing I said is correct, since I didn't talk a lot.
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Yeah, he's unable
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Hmmmmm,
Nope, wrong.
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So he says but does not prove
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Interesting concept, burden of proof.
You're the one who said I cannot, therefore the burden of proof is on you.
It's your duty to prove I can't. Since I never claimed I could, only that I would, if I had a reason to.
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Still he tells but does not show. He can't. He knows only the words
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Interesting, interesting,
So you're implying there is a reason I would, but refusing to tell me it while also expecting me to assume the reason is valid, but also prohibiting me from expecting you to know the explanation.
An interesting game, one where the rules appear to be uneven.

Also, I refer to the old rule "nuha, I asked first."
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This was me proving you can't
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This is my proof that you cannot prove that I cannot.

Check, and mate.
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>the INTP is devoid of all feeling
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>>79494318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dKX-Vy4rK8
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anybody watching season 3 of fishtank? what's their types?
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>>79494606
frank hassle is an intp's demon fi incarnate
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>>79494551
>The INTP is so completely and utterly consumed by his inferior feeling that it manifests as a large wave which washes over his entire being and due to his nature, he is ill-equip to handle this problem. Thus he habitually blends it into the background where it exists as an indescribable, unreachable, undifferentiated blob of nothingness.
>And yet, this blob is not truly nothing, it is a shadow cast by unprocessed emotions, quietly shaping his inner world in ways he cannot define. Its formlessness is both a defense and a trap, ensuring he neither confronts nor escapes it, leaving him caught in the liminal space between reason and feeling until. . .
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>>79494623
fat lazy retards rise up
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>TFW everyone who tries to beat me just winds up check mating themselves
Sigh~
When will I find a worthy opponent
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kys fucking faggots
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>>79468703
I fucked off from regularly posting in the threads like 2 years ago, glad to see the generals died. I grew to hate nearly every single person who posted in the threads. I hate generals as a whole, the whole worshipping of tripfags/namefags/regulars really disgusts me in any general on any board.
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>>79497207
Yes we know, we already reached the conclusion that /MBTI/ started going to shit in late 2021 in this very thread
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When did T*rb** stop being relevant?
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>>79492544
You're so nice, animeanon
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>>79497884
Turbie UwUrbie is always relevant
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>>79497207
>>79497748
No way anons! The decline of mbti is purely, fully, completely, and uniquely the fault of [person I don't like]. It has nothing to do with the fact all the discussion circles around a bunch of boring retards and attempting to do anything productive, asking questions, bringing up some sort of related topic or even posting silly meme charts is very quickly drowned by the flood of literal-whos drama and their cocksuckers, if you claim that it's LITERALLY historical revisionism.

How dare you suggesting that chasing away anyone who isn't interested into our dear reggies could possibly kill the general? Nope, let me tell you how much I hate this guy instead(and totally love the other one uwu), because I'm sure you, a completely random anon who entered the thread reading "MBTI general" is really here only to read high schooler-tier bickering between named strangers on an anime imageboard.
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>>79478157
Good, moids should always be demoralized
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>>79499103
What an absolute meltdown
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>>79499103
As i've already clearly explained here https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/79322303/#79325804 and here https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/79322303/#79325884 my point is not that INFJ-A initiated the decline of /MBTI/, rather he was the final blow, the last straw that convinced me and apparently others to give up on the general, killing it for good
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>>79499375
I'm not naming any specific reggie, it's more about the deflection and trying to get us to ignore the huge fucking elephant in the room.
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I'll name princes ex gf as the worst of the bad actors
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>open thread
>ctrl-f "vocaroo"
>no hits

I'm posting this from the top of the page from a quick reply window and I'm closing the tab as soon as it goes through.
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>>79500086
>open your life
>ctrl-f "girlfriend"
>no hits
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Se-x XDDD
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>>79486815
>>79487670
One of those retarded leftist sent me a tiktok of some fat vegan dumb fuck, who's clearly never worked a day in his life, talking about how communism is the only way humans are meant to live.

Told that retard I didn't agree with him, and legitimately no joke, this retard replies,
>that's because it probably just went over your head.

The fucking audacity of some retard trying to lecture me, when they understand shit all about the economy or politics.
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>>79500885
Quality meme here
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>>79469739
>> nerd anon be mean
wasn't that a reg
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>>79468703
Give me your reading recs. Surely the nerdiest general around here has something cool to recommend.
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>>79500991
you're just a small stupid chud, leftist intellectuals already figured out everything decades before you, their insightful truth is still completely unrefuted
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>>79501356
Have you read The Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe? It's pretty cool.
You can never go wrong by Reading Jung.
The Red Book is great, Psychology and Alchemy, Modern Man in Search of a Soul, Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious.
Beyond Good and Evil, and Thus Spake Zarathustra are both good books by Nietzsche.
Crime and Punishment, The Brothers Karamazov, and The Grand Inquisitor are great books by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

All the old books by the philosophers before like 600 AD are all really cool too.

Unless, of course, you don't like learning.
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>>79493016
he called me a worm and said I should burn in hell for disagreeing with him on something I was right about and he was being a whiny little about anyway and he is just mean and a bad person in general
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>>79501595
>he is just mean and a bad person in general
While he does have a nice side, it's just that the nice side is a mask. He's total baloney
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>>79501545
CTMoU never read
Red Book so hard so good, difficult journey into Jung's deepest hardest dreams.
Psych and Alchemy Never read
Modern Man in Search of a Soul soooo good
Also Man and his Symbols those two alone are all a laymen needs for Jung.

Beyond Good and Evil and Thus Spake
Two of my favorite books of all time, especially Zarathustra Top 2 right after the Bible.
Crime and Punishment Good
Brother Karamazov Good
Grand Inquisitor Never read
I also like Underground Man so gold.
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>>79487687
>>79499529
The lack of her just sets the bar at usable but we need the people that left to come back for things to get better again but that won't happen because greener pastures and there's no guarantee that this place won't devolve into garbage again.
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>>79501976
Who do we need to come back?
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>>79501206
Thanks, i put a lot of effort into it
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>>79501884
>>79501545
Wasn't the Great Inquisitor part of Brothers Karamazov?
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>>79502012
A better question, why does anyone need to come back?
That's a theme in some of the bible's stories. You know, like in Genesis 19 and Exodus.
In Genesis 19 after God destroys Sodom and Gomorrah, one of the people who escaped turns around and is turned into a pillar of salt.
And in Exodus, some of the escaped slaves wish to return to their masters in order to escape the grueling pain of uncertainty in the endless desert, but then they are prohibited from entering Heaven.

People in search of greener pastures cannot turn back.
>>79501884
I would be committing an act of heresy if I didn't mention Pinocchio, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, and Charlottes Web.

Some others that came to mind are:
The Secret Garden, by Frances Hodgson Burnett
The Alchemist, by Paulo Coelho.
And The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, by Mark Twain.
>>79502148
Yep, it was a story within that story.
But, it can be read outside of the context of Brothers Karamazov.
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>>79502684
are u sayin u r a sodomite...
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>>79502814
Heh, nope. I pointed at the cities and everyone fled, then it all turned to rubble.
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>>79494076
Dude, that's ableist
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Gud night, /MBTI/
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INxP is GOD tier
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Maybe GOD tier at SUCKING DICKS AND BEING GAY LMAO
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>>79504216
you're just jealous that you're not as smart or insightful and lack depth
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A few years on learning MBTI, and I wouldn't have expected that people seem more similar than less. I see most as one fundamental form with small additions and adaptations, the same face wearing glasses or a wig. Anyone else know what I mean?
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>>79504331
Oh, you're mad?
I see your pride's cracked,
I'm mapping the mind while you stay on the track.
You claim insight,
but it's surface at best,
I'm diving the depths while you float with the rest.

Smart? Insightful? Hah.
That's all just a show,
I'm charting the psyche, you don't even know.
Depth?
Please.
You're a ripple at most.
I'm the shadow, the self, the archetype's host.

Jealous? Of what?
Your overgrown air?
I'm building within while you're stuck unaware.
So step back, ego, there's more to discern,
Depth isn't claimed,

it's something you earn.
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>>79504591
There's two real ways to interpret what you're saying,
One is that you've travelled too far outside of the explored territory to a place where everything is shrouded in darkness and everything appears in an undifferentiated form. Which potentially why everyone appears to be more similar than different, because you've failed to draw the differentiating lines correctly, or even not at all.
Which is to say, you're merely perceiving the surface and cannot see the boundaries or tell the difference between the two surfaces, thus they appear the same. Sort of like looking at two objects, say a steel sphere and a steel cube. But you're so zoomed in, all you can see is steel flatness and you cannot differentiate between the sphere and the cube.

Or, it could be that you've gone so deep, what you've found is the fundamental bedrock, archetypes, as it were. And that all people are, on a fundamental level, the same. Everyone shares the same four functions, everyone has a brain, and everyone is influenced by the same physical world.
It's probably both.

But yes, I do know what you mean... It seems like you're just beginning to scratch the surface.
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>>79501684
sophie isnt perfect, news flash, no one is. but he's a hell of a lot more respectable than your contemptable ass.
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>>79505524
lol whatever you say faggot
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>>79505524
this is an ironic trollpost
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So whats the difference between Ti and Ni?
And how can i know which one of these is my dominant function?
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>>79505524
Who cares about respectability when she has nice warm holes you can stick your peepee in
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HELL yeah dicks out for princess sophia!
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>>79505671
Do you know the difference between perception and judgement?

If you drop the Ni/Ti thing, it quickly makes more sense. Because there's really no difference between Ni and Ne, or Te and Ti. Intuition is intuition, and thinking is thinking.
Intuition is a function of perception, it is a way of observing the world. Similar to sensation, through the medium of your eyeballs.
Thinking is a function of judgement, it's a way of judging the world as "something". It tells you what something "is". In the sense of "that is a tree" or "that is a person", etc. There's more depth to it, but that's the basics.

>And how can i know which one of these is my dominant function?
You have to differentiate your conscious from your unconscious. Then you have to identify within yourself when your conscious or unconscious is acting and which function is associated with that.
You need to have a deep understanding of yourself, your motivations, your traumas and all the things you've repressed.
Most people cannot do this alone, because observing things that are repressed (unconscious) isn't really possible. Because it's invisible and repressed.
This is why a lot of thinking types make the claim that they "don't have feelings", because they're so far repressed that they become invisible. They don't even realize when they're having an emotion until it explodes out of them.
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holee shit critical hp bump
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i want to know why everyone left what happenbed?
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Mr. I'm Turbie Enjoyer and I love Turbie
I deny those claims the other turbie enjoyer made about turbie being a black man it wasn't me

I meant to bump on page 9, but then i got too high and forgot to bump it so I'm glad someone else bumped because I'm fucking retarded please forgive me
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>>79502971
Cringe narc headcannon. /mbti/ was cool place until a few forever online manchildren constantly pissed and shidded in it. What happened was basically the same principle as white flight. Nothing biblical.
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u guys need to come back and post high iq stuff so i can shit these threds up again
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>>79507581
highest iq stuff i can allow myself to post here is to tell you to kys tranny
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>>79505671
For starters Ni is a perceiving function while Ti is a judging function
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Reminder that if you don't have Fi as your dominant or auxiliary function you're an NPC
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>>79509726
n p c - non plappable character
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GET PREGNANT
PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PREGNANT
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
YOU'RE A BOY?
PLAP PLAP PLAP
LIFE WILL FIND A WAY
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PREGNANT
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
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>>79509808
Everyone says this is a meme but I have never seen it in my life, is it an audio or something?
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As an INTJ, I'm low-functioning autistic, I have scatterbrain ADHD, PTSD, OCD, BPD, generalised anxiety disorder, seasonal depression, social anxiety, Parkinsons, Alzheimers, a frontal lobotomy, post-partum depression, bipolar disorder, manic episodes, a debilitating opioid addiction, catatonia, schizophrenia, body dysmorphia, anorexia, bulimia, obesity, anemia, the vapours, shingles, disassociation, hallucinations, dyslexia, consumption, paranoia, a specific learning disorder, and narcissism. I can't read good, I've never even held hands with a girl or a boy, I've got executive dysfunction, performance anxiety, it hurts when I sneeze, I have COVID, narcolepsy, the cooties, restless leg syndrome, insomnia, sleep paralysis, analysis paralysis, partial face paralysis, and paralysis in both hands. I also have a flesh-eating disease, selective mutism, Tourette's, stuttering, gender dysphoria, species dysphoria, a bit of a gambling issue, pyromania, celiac's disease, face-blindness, tone-deafness, tetanus, varicose veins, measles scars, claustrophobia, agoraphobia, two fingers missing, another finger missing, too many toes, a drinking problem, and epilepsy. I've got nicotine addiction, skin cancer, body horror, rats in the walls, a headache, commitment issues, no passion, no intention of reading, and I'm just really really lazy. My hobbies include sitting still and shivering. I once tried to lift a book and had to be hospitalized from the effort. If anybody tries to give me reading recommendations I immediately start crying and take it as a personal attack. Also I have never read a book in my life.
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>>79468703
I'm an isfp demongender I go by demon/demonkind and I'm plapsexual have sex with me fembot
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>>79508799
What the hell does that mean
You need to be perceiving something in order for it to be judging it, and you need to judge what is important for it to be worth perceiving
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>>79510222
Yes
The perceiving function decides what is worth perceiving, the judging function determines how you judge what you perceive
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>>79510348
So how you determine which is your dominant when you are always performing them simultaniously
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>>79510355
Non-judging dominants will be more hesitant to judge things definitively
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>>79510093
> As an INTJ, I'm low-functioning autistic, I have scatterbrain ADHD, PTSD, OCD, BPD, generalised anxiety disorder, seasonal depression, social anxiety, Parkinsons, Alzheimers, a frontal lobotomy, post-partum depression, bipolar disorder, manic episodes, a debilitating opioid addiction, catatonia, schizophrenia, body dysmorphia, anorexia, bulimia, obesity, anemia, the vapours, shingles, disassociation, hallucinations, dyslexia, consumption, paranoia, a specific learning disorder, and narcissism. I can't read good, I've never even held hands with a girl or a boy, I've got executive dysfunction, performance anxiety, it hurts when I sneeze, I have COVID, narcolepsy, the cooties, restless leg syndrome, insomnia, sleep paralysis, analysis paralysis, partial face paralysis, and paralysis in both hands. I also have a flesh-eating disease, selective mutism, Tourette's, stuttering, gender dysphoria, species dysphoria, a bit of a gambling issue, pyromania, celiac's disease, face-blindness, tone-deafness, tetanus, varicose veins, measles scars, claustrophobia, agoraphobia, two fingers missing, another finger missing, too many toes, a drinking problem, and epilepsy. I've got nicotine addiction, skin cancer, body horror, rats in the walls, a headache, commitment issues, no passion, no intention of reading, and I'm just really really lazy. My hobbies include sitting still and shivering. I once tried to lift a book and had to be hospitalized from the effort. If anybody tries to give me reading recommendations I immediately start crying and take it as a personal attack. Also I have never read a book in my life.
Have sex lol
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>>79471757
>consistent IxTx
Introverted thinking type
You're welcome
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>>79480849
The models are trained on human test. Duh.
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>>79510093
not the same without the autistic pic
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>>79510569
>>79480849
Bots are literally trained to sound perfect and immaculate, you sound mad.
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>>79510725
only when I'm the one training them. :)
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>>79510725
Based on human samples considered to be perfect, and immaculate.
I'm not mad in the least.
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>>79510518
Still have to determine whether he's a Ti-gger or a Te-gger
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Ti-ggers are tigers
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>>79505524
I am literally perfect which means s*phie is a huge dumbass
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INTP.

yall niggas out here care too much about some bullshit. shieet.
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>>79512040
Exactly, now why can't I browse 4chan in the year 2024 without being bombarded with gay propaganda. I would even like to share some words from time to time. Or even talk to people on this godforsaken forum and it actually be a normal conversation! Am I the crazy one? I'm laid back and chill, but these frigging day ruiners keep ruining my day.
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>>79507581
my iq is so high that you just wouldn't understand it. it can't even be measured beyond 80
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>>79512094
yeah no, i'm not in the intel community idk why you'd suggest that i am. you're clearly in love with cocks and in denial. and btw you're very into femboys and homosexuality through sheer exposure that my agency didn't plant. again, i don't know why you're suggesting that i am in some sort of intelligence community that's trying to feed your isolation and show you pictures and manipulated environments to warp your perception of non-reality. stop implying that i work for anybody it's ridiculous and you're gaslighting me with homosexual posts that my indian partner beside me who i can't fucking understand didn't post for laughs and pay. again you must be very gay somehow with penises on your mind constantly from not browsing this website. no my bank account is not growing larger and this website is not at all compromised haha you're crazy and like femboys and stuff. look how cute the board is
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>tfw unemployable INFP
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>>79512210
Heck, there really is nowhere left for people like me. This whole time I thought I had internet friends but one by one they were all fake gay posting robots designed to mess with my mind.
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>>79512342
ngl you sound like the type of person I'd want to beat the shit out of if I'd've ever gotten to know you
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>>79507032
Sorry, bud, everything is biblical.
>>79510222
This is precisely why the modern idea of function stacks is blatantly wrong. Your type does not determine the order in which you do things, nor does it determine the "strength" or "prowess" with a function.
It simply tells you what you repress into your unconscious, and what you allow to exist in your conscious mind. It just tells you what functions resonate with your consciousness (aka Ego) and which are discordant with your ego.
You know, like when you fly off the handle and insult someone and then say "Sorry, I didn't mean to say those things." That is your unconscious coming up to the surface. Your conscious mind (ego) does not identify with those traits as "me".
This is one of many manifestations of inferior feeling.
The inferior functions just sort of "happen" to you.

By identifying your inferior function you can have control over those unconscious actions, because you can identify the unconscious coming to the surface. Instead of flying off the handle and insulting the person, you can consciously change your feelings and not let the unconscious process control you. You can identify the process and understand WHY exactly you had that specific reaction and why you blew up on them.
THIS is what typology is about.
>>79510355
By differentiating your conscious and unconscious mind.
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>/mbti/ is alive!!!!
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>>79512447
I have nothing to talk about, chatGPT is a million times better. I can even get it assess my personality type and then write me in a story :> Then it reads me the story aloud
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>>79512491
>I can even get it assess
yours and your mom's?
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>>79512491
Yeah, but you can condition ChatGPT to tell you whatever you want to hear by just altering the terms you use. Just like you can manipulate tests so they output the exact type you want to be, just so you appease your own ego.
Using chatGPT in that manner is peak insecurity.
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Reasons I dislike being an INFP:
I never know which way people are going to move in the corridor so I end up bumping into them
No idea how you're supposed to acknowledge people in the corridor either.
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whut doe sthat have to do with being an infp/?????
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>>79512685
i pick one side and stick to it and make it clear that is where i am going
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Whenever i'm facing hardships in life, no matter if big or small, i can't help but think this: if only my mother had thought twice before giving birth to me, i wouldn't have to go through this
t. INFP
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>>79512720
Because I'm introverted, a chronic emotional overthinker, and perhaps hesitant to initiate contact because of past experiences?

>>79512838
I try that but it always ends up being the wrong side. Everyone else seems to be so good at predicting the correct side, but I always end up messing it up.
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>>79513508
Hmmmm. Interesting, what you just described is inferior feeling, not dominant.
I can smell someone living in their own shadow.
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I am once again bidding /MBTI/ good night
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>>79514070
don't wake up, fucking dipshit
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>>79513682
I think I'm doing fine to be honest, my most fundamental flaw is not getting any dopamine from interactions, and that makes me avoidant. From what I've observed there are a number of social states that exist as escalations from lower ones. Without reciprocity, I haven't made it up that ladder. And there exist cues that reference those states. Without knowing the full ladder, which for example, includes friendships. I don't know how to proceed with those cues. If that's what living in their own shadow means, then fine. But from my perspective it's a preclusion of knowledge.
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>>79514154
What I mean by "living in your shadow" is that you haven't properly dealt with your "trauma". It still exists in a repressed state and is allowed to bubble up on its own accord and control your actions, emotions and internal states.
Not only that, but your perspective on your trauma is that it is "who you are", rather than an aspect of your being.

The reason I believe this is because you've not so subtly implying it.

>my most fundamental flaw is not getting any dopamine from interactions, and that makes me avoidant.
I get the sense you're actually trying to say something else here, and that you've intentionally worded it this way to avoid confronting something. Stop trying to obscure the truth for the sake of comfort.
What you've effectively said is "I'm not motivated to interact, therefore I avoid." Which is like saying "I avoid because I avoid."
Okay, but WHY? What is the specific feeling that you're intentionally avoiding? Fear? Because it really seems like fear which is associated with your past, based on what you've said.
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>>79514842
I think genuinely without incentive, interaction is all disincentive; etiquette, energy, and risk. It's only recently that I've become more extraverted, where I am cognitively motivated. There are occasions where the disincentives are compounded by past experiences. I have no reason to connect with anyone, because I have adapted to that state of living.

If I've had past trauma, it's ultimately resulted in excision of those pathways, and there's no more depth to it.
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>>79515188
>interaction is all disincentive; etiquette, energy, and risk
You've just described fear, yet again...
>because I have adapted to that state of living.
And here you even say you've adapted to a way that is not natural for you, or maybe "not what you want".

What you're saying is that this isn't your intrinsic state of being, not your natural state of being. BUT- you've gotten used to it, it has become normal. You've resigned yourself to a role or pattern of behavior because you're afraid of what might be outside of that.
Which is EXACTLY what I meant by "living in your shadow".

I get the sense that you want to change this, that there is something inside of you calling for a change, to break out of this pattern you've accepted. But, you've yet to address the reasons for WHY you're in this position without making some excuse that takes away your power and motivation.
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>INFJ-A is the one who gave /MBTI/ the coup de grace, because he's a misrable little gremlin who's only joy in life is to ruin everything around him
Granted, /MBTI/ was already on life support for a whole series of reasons, but there were anons like me willing to put an effort to keep the general alive. But there's no point doing that if what you're keeping alive is just 500 posts of INFJ-A being a raging faggot and dragging everyone else down in his fits of autism
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>>79515753
my eyes just glaze over the walls of text like they aren't even there
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>>79515753
It's alright, bucko. There's no need to be upset.
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I bet you can't even prove that I'm a raging faggot, can you?
HUH?
HUH HU HUHU?
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>>79515927
>infp
there's your proof
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>>79516078
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So
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>>79515753
he's not that bad bro.
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>>79468703
Every time I take one of these personality tests, I always get INTP (and yes, I have a body pillow).
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>>79516696
N...not that bad? That's really sweet, anon!
I'm just talking about mbti, it's not my fault I can peer directly into people's souls without their consent..
;--;
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>>79468726
fuck tranny jannies, they deserve love
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the regs are all girlbosses
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i'm still here. haven't made any music in a while- but i did remaster one of my old songs, if anyone is interested in some background music.

>[Memories From Past Dreams]
https://voca.ro/1aEzFjSfNx7H

---

[LYRICS]

my aura used to be much stronger
but now i've been alive for a little bit
i can't bear the burden of my shame anymore

i don't need to be told i'm really here

their faces and hands were all wrong
in the dreams
these artificial things

and if i'm unable to discern my memories from past dreams
then should reality really matter to me?

the humans i've dreamt are all gone
they don't need
purpose like me

smaerd erom em evig
etelpmoc eb nac i os
yawa efil siht peels em tel

the truth is an armor that's seamless and seems less faulty every day that you don it

the songs of tomorrow are feeble to the cries of today

---

Rx, i am so tired and deracine. Jesus Christ.
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>>79518584
and one more acoustic song of mine that i remastered.

>[Poison]

https://voca.ro/17MQZNJ8n4Nc

---

[LYRICS]

my demons
were mollified
we came to terms
for some reason
i'm petrified
i still need oxygen
to breathe
out here

i heard the word
the ghost will spread
and flood this earth

i pray that God will listen
spread poison
this is the work of demons
this is the work of the wicked in your brain
pray that God will listen
spread poison
this is the work of demons
this is the work of the wicked in your brain

this is the work of
poison

don't spare the sick details
i want to know everything
why should we suffer
down here in misery
and somehow
still find salvation?
and release?

spread the word
everything
will burn

i pray that God will listen
spread poison
this is the work of demons
this is the work of the wicked in your brain
pray that God will listen
spread poison
this is the work of demons
this is the work of the wicked in your brain

there's no salvation without preemptive poison

there's no salvation
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>>79514147
Joke's on you, you wrote that to spite me, but i pray for that to happen every night before falling asleep
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>>79518584
>>79518607
Now write a song about Turbie
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>>79468703
Te is retarded, there is no doubt about it. But it still is an instinctual resource for understanding logistical systems in realtime. I'm Ne and Ti, so no premise ever is self explanatory. Everything is at first sight potentially arbitrary. That makes it hard to grasp and to build logistical systems.
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It snowed but it didn't snow enough and I'm still depressed
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>>79520158
The closest I can come to speculate to how it feels to have Te is by using Fe. Fe is aware of social dynamics and social logistics. I know how and when to say something or to even just mildly adjust my tone of voice to get an entirely different social result / play with implications etc. So maybe Te does the same with immaterial objects and systems
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>>79512447
This thread is /MBTI/'s frankenstein monster
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There's really two kinds of people in this world: those who identify with their work and social life, and those who identify with their inner world
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>>79520785
>*artists putting their inner worlds into their works enter the chat*
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>>79521134
Post your art and make us guess your type
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>>79520785
That's drastically oversimplified, don't you think?
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>>79522285
Humans are drastically simple creatures at their core
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>>79522515
Now, that's exactly the opposite of true. Not even a drastic oversimplification.
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>>79522551
>Noooo i'm actually super complex and special
Ok snowflake
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homuanon is motherly
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>>79520177
Man i wish it snowed here
Snow is so cozy
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>>79504200
I agree, i think all INxPs should be given subsidies by the government to keep being awesome
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>>79468703
*Sigh*

I've done... I've received a typing many weeks ago... and I've accepted the result. I should have known from the start. My excessive daydreaming, my search for an identity, my obsession with stories, narratives and the internal...

That's right. I am an INFP. That is the truth. Always have been, and always will be.... the identity of myself is of utmost importance to me, making me a clear Fi dom, and the daydreaming is most particular of a Fi-Ne direction. My typists have better reasoning than me, but it just makes sense.

The search is over. I accept it. I am ready... but now what? You know why I searched for so long? Because I was... and still am... lost. utterly lost in this world. I don't know what I want... well, I think I do, but I'm still not sure, and yet I lack the courage to achieve it. I don't know anymore.
I sound depressed typing this, but I'm not, I'm relatively composed and almost 'content,' but I am also not. It is strange. My potentially one experience in this reality, and I spend it doing this? I am a young man, nearly 22 now, but my life is so dull and boring, even though I am somewhat 'successful' by modern standards. I don't feel successful, I don't feel like a winner... because in truth, I am not. I am a loser. Never had a gf, never felt true passion, never done anything truly enjoyable, I have just indulged into escapist fantasy and video games and movies. Dreaming of a life that is better than my own.

All I do is daydream.
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Guss finally finding his definitive type feels like a true climactic ending for /MBTI/
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Good night /MBTI/, hopefully this time i don't wake up
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>>79524572
Congratulations gus, I just found out I was an INFP too after I took 16 personalities.com 's quiz
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>>79522894
Everyone is extremely complex, you simpleton.
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>>79524572
Gus, Gus, Gus,
When will you learn?
Daydreaming is completely unrelated to functions.

Although, the CONTENT of your daydreams could point you towards a potential function.
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>>79524409
those exist, it's called ssdi
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>>79525546
>implying inxp robots have ever worked a single second in their lives
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>>79525645
ssdi = social security disability income, from severe autism
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>>79525867
A requirement of SSDI is that you have worked some amount of time, because you have to pay into socialsecurty to be eligible. This is because SSDI is insurance.
You're probably thinking of SSI, which is not the same thing.

And getting SSI for autism is actually pretty difficult, since autism doesn't really prevent you from working in the vast majority of cases. Even if it's severe. You have to be borderline retarded to qualify.
In most cases, getting neetbux for tism requires a parent to claim you as a dependent, and that you cannot manage yourself, then they become your beneficiary, which means they get your SSI to take care of your retarded ass.
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>>79468703
ISFPchads keep winning
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>>79526320
oh idk the specifics, all i know is i'm either ssdi or ssi due to severe mental illness, am inxp, and have worked before but can't really hold a job and live with my mother
i feel like it's a common state for inxps
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>playing incel horoscope
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>>79526522
You can tell by the amount you get, over 943 it's SSDI, 943 or under is most likely SSI.
And also, no. Most xNxP types are off exploring new things, even the introverted variants. NP types do not like stagnant, unchanging environments. They don't really do the whole "same thing day in and day out".

And also, the types with the lowest correlation to autism are the xNxP types. xNxP types are very, VERY open minded and like to explore new possibilities, and like they often like to just wing it with no plan. Very spontaneous. Which is effectively diametrically opposed to autism.
The type that has the highest correlation to autism is the xSxJ types. Very rigid, very orderly and planned, they don't like unexpected things.

Basically all the xNxP aspies I've met were ENFP females. Very bubbly and goofy, very high energy, and like meeting new people and very open minded, and willing to overshare, but also super super anxious with lots of stimming habits.
And basically all the male aspies I've met were ISTJ. Very strict and rigid, very planned, and straight forward, but they have this very lush internal landscape full of all kinds of different images, and strange sensations they cannot quite elaborate on to other people.

It really makes me wonder where this "IxNx types is the aspie type" or "IxNx are the mentally types" came from. Because it's patently observably false.
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>>79527257
My father has aspergers and he is almost certainly an INTP. My sister also has aspergers and I'm pretty sure she is some sort of ESFx. I do get that this is anecdotal experience and it isn't worth shit in the grand scheme of things but figured I would mention it because I find the subject interesting. I suppose that I should also mention that they both have other mental health related issues which complicate things. Both have attention deficit disorders and also some sort of anxiety disorders.
INTx is the autist type because feeling is low on the cognitive function stack/and or is not very visible to the outside world. Remember that "coldest humans, warmest androids" thing about INTJ/INTP? Basically that. I can seem a bit autistic despite not having any of that. Perhaps it's due to my type, perhaps it's because I have a parent with those issues and monkey see monkey do. Children do mimic their parents after all.
T: INTJ
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>>79527362
Oh, don't take me wrong, type and stuff like the 'tism have no causal relationship. Anyone of any type can be tistic. But the stereotypical conceptualization of autism typically doesn't align with the intuitive types. But certain autism traits preclude you from being certain types.
For example, sensory overload doesn't align with the INxJ types. The INxJ are the ones who have the ability to completely tune out (repress) the sensory world to the point where they miss things directly in front of their face.
On the other hand, types like INxP can misattribute some of their completely normal traits to autism. They're the types to get hyper focused exploring their super niche interest to the point where they completely lose track of everything else. Then if you couple that with some social anxiety, they instantly appear to be autistic, even though they don't meet the diagnostic criteria.
>INTx is the autist type
It really, really isn't though. What you're most likely observing is the fact that thinking is primarily a male trait. The stereotypical conceptualization of autism fits most closely with the sensing thinkers, when it comes to males. Especially when you consider that most autistic people are SUPER in touch with their senses, much to their own determent.
Like when you're in the car with someone who's autistic and they spot the most minor details on cars, or they get focused on all the license plates and remember every number or letter, or they get super obsessed with specific articles of clothing and they remember exactly what you were wearing 2 weeks ago when you last saw them.
These are all sensing traits.
Even the turbo autists that are savants and can listen to you play a song one time and replay it themselves, this is sensing.

Autism = high sensing.
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>>79527807
>Autism = high sensing.
I should clarify this
Autism is most closely correlated with extremely high sensing to the point where it disrupts other cognitive processes. It can also be other functions, that also disrupt the cognitive process, but the most common types of autism revolve around extremely differentiated sensation.



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