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Why is 4chan dying and how do we get it to not die
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>>79998982
1. The whole internet is dying. Dead internet.

2. A few extremely devoted schizophrenics and autists spam 4chan with porn and CP night and day trying to get as many home IPs banned as possible with paid VPNs/Proxies and they do nothing else night and day for years, also adding to this
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>>79998982
The fifteen minute timer shit is absolutely horrendous
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>>79998982
i have no answer for this (i'll think about it) but picrel is a board-by-board analysis i made from the stats on 4stats io

your image only seems to show the stats for 1 board, there are way more than 10000 posts/day on 4chan.
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>>79999006
You can thank the guys spamming CP and porn on paid proxies night and day for that. People like vidya butts who made over 20 000 threads with porn, BBC spammers on /vg/ spamming black dick on a new IP every 60 seconds or the schizo from /tv/ posting CP non stop because he has some agenda against hiro I guess they tried to stop that but failed kek
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>>79998982
nothing lasts forever we had a good run 4chan will now be an even more niche site
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>>79998982
I'm totally cool with normie shit stains and groomers leaving. If we continue to troll the absolute shit out of them, they will continue to leave, and then the rest of the AUTISTS will come back. It's only a w.
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>>79998982
meh, i'm ready to move on and start living real life and leaving 4chan behind desu.
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>>79998982
We need moderation. I don't care about post count if most of it is spam.
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>>79998982
All the election tourists who came here during 2016 are finally starting to leave. They're retarded but I guess seeing all the nsfw porn and called out as being morons is helping them realize this place isn't some conservacuck platform for the republican party.
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>>79998998
that's concerning actually
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>>79999024
pornography might be the reason. So much of this website has become entirely related to sex, and several large boards have been entirely consumed by porn. Even if you remove the loli and bbc from it, it's still offputting to see so much porn everywhere to the point where it clogs up everything.
Another reason could be general enshittification. Some boards have degraded to a state where their content and users are totally worthless.
I don't think banning is a big reason, because it's laughably easy to change your ip.
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>>79998982
>why dying
You tell me
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>>79999083
>newfag doesn't realize that there's far less porn being posted now than in the past
Lmao I bet your so new you don't even realize that there used to be no rules against porn and that it was expected to see it on any red board.
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>>79998982
i almost left when they made me verify an email account, lot of people probably left with that. otherwise idk. probably has something to do with young people now barely venturing outside of their approved platforms (tiktok, instagram, twitter, etc) and being more hesitant to try any websites they dont recognize
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>>79998982
because you have to wait 30 minutes to post or comment on something if you dont verify your email. plus i dont think people see the appeal of using 4chan because of other social media apps like reddit, twitter, instagram and tiktok. no one wants to go on 4chan for its reputation and people dont want to see the content thats being uploaded on here. its not trendy or eye catching and half this website is just filled with porn. do i think 4chan will get a great revival? probably not. do i think 4chan will be forgotten and never used or talked about again. nope there is a future for this website but for now i dont see much hope.
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>tranny threads
>cock cages
>interracial porn
All spammed here constantly. People don't enjoy that shit
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>>79999096
i feel like all the tranny shit is the biggest psyop in history.
>basically no major discourse about it before ~2018 despite tranny population being similar
>both sides of the political spectrum are obsessed with it
>causes polarization
>people care about trannies instead of materially improving their lives
>trannies are less than a percent of the population
>i have seen like 10 of them ever
>everyone thinks trannies are ethier being oppressed or oppressing them
it's such an obvious psyop, it's an issue entirely fabricated to be polarizing. I think trannies are annoying, but i litteraly don't care otherwise. The problem litteraly goes away if you don't think about it.
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>>79998982
don't be silly, smaller is better these days. tumblr is better than it's ever been.
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>>79999225
online communities are best at the size 4chan and tumblr are at right now. Big enough to be active, but small enough to still have culture and community that hasn't been obliterated by normalfags or replaced by slop
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>>79999225
>tumblr before porn banned: 90% porn 10% pretentious slop
>tumblr after porn banned: 100% slop
Ok
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>>79998982
idk man and i really don't care neither as long as theres a little niche of cool people lurking around here still
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>>79998982
Please post a bit more positive, beautiful or informative content on this platform
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>>79999648
the largest star ever found is 226 solar masses and is 5 million times brighter than the sun. I hope this was informative
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>>79998982
I would guess there are a few different reasons.
1. Being anonymous online isn't the gold standard it used to be. Social media changed the game with that.
2.Hit or miss discussions. Sometimes a thread has people talking about it for hours or days even if it's about an unimportant topic. Like that thread about literal pizza types a month or two back. Sometimes nothing really gets bumped outside of porn, which is great for fapping but once you bust you just leave.
3. A lot of oldfags have gotten older. Kids, jobs, and work are bigger priorities in their lives.
4. Changes in humor. Edginess and offensive jokes aren't the mainstream comedy force they used to be. Ironic or otherwise. Sure a few get put into show or stand-up here or there but they aren't everywhere like they used to be.
5. A lot of the super talented artfags and writerfags discovered they could make money building profiles on other websites, so they do that there.

I don't think 4chan is too big to fail and I think that eventually some people will remain here. It will just be in a new form than what it has been in.
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>>79998982
Gonna be real. I just fine less of a reason to keep using this site everyday.

Call me a fag or whatever, but I really do most of my online interaction through discord or other apps where I am directly connecting with someone.

I really just have fewer reasons to keep posting as I get older. It mainly just comes down to not feeling like I have a productive usages of my time, posting doesn't make me as happy, the discussion as of late sucks, moderation is as crappy as it was 10 years ago, bots, schitzos, and technologically iliterate boomers make having honest real discussions on anything extremely difficult, and the pirated hentai is on kemono.party these days.

I really just only ever check /v/, /vg/, and /r9k/ when I feel like browsing 4chan.
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>>79999663
this is actually fucking meaningless
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>>79998982
I don't really care. I'm only here because I have nothing better to do for quick dopamine hits.
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>>79999022
Interesting stats thanks dude.
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>>79999024
The issue is kind of 3 part.
1. The nature of 4chan just in general makes it really easy for anyone to ban evade if they really want to. And when they have an effective set up for ban evading, there really isn't anything mods can really do about it. We don't have accounts, and email verification isn't a really effective counter measure either since burner emails are really easy to make.

2. The moderation team in general is just ineffective. For one you have about 1 moderator for every 500 to 1000 users on a given day, they may not be on everyday either. Jannies are often on a revolving door and can be motivated by ulterior reasons.

3. 4chan in general just attracts people who either come here because they can basically post whatever they want without any consequence and just outright ban evade serially to by pass any moderation actions against them, as well as people come here because borderline content like lolicon and gore are going to attract questionable people.

I honestly don't think it is possible for a website like 4chan to be moderated effectively in the modern day when you consider that there really is no good way to keep the website as easy to use as it is without adding in some kind of restriction that doesn't require you to only delete your cookies and grab a new IP from a proxy.
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>>79998982
I think it's gone for sure, I just checked /b/ out of curiosity and it's mostly just porn
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>>79998982
I was scoffing at this point thinking, "LOL, YOU want to KEEP 4chan from dying?" but then I thought about it and I understand.
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>>79999083
>>79999106
I remember when you could post porn on blue boards. I would post hentai on /tg/ all the fucking time, nobody cared. 4chan is ridiculously sanitized now.
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>>79998998
this im gonna make a DIY vice documentary on it when im not a NEET anymore. too busy walking dogs and shit to pay my rent to edit all the screencaps and stuff together cohesively so it doesnt look confusing and make people think i am just also schizophrenic. but for a taste if you value my word it was craziest this summer and some mods had to have been in on it too because i kept getting "rangebanned" then unbanned on a stable home wifi network ip so like even though it was banning just me it gave me a ban "style" as if i were on 5g so i couldn't appeal the ban and this was after i was trying to talk about this shit specifically so it seemed like retaliation to shut me up. then i'd get on my phone on a mobile ip and get banned for super specific posts in the same board i was posting in across all kinds of boards (i was experimenting to see if theyd follow me to figure out wtf was going on) making posts that themselves were definitely messages to me. knowing if i said that it would just kinda sound like standard psychotic delusion "omg the tv is talking to me, taylor swift wants to date me" but that's the stuff you'd have to see logs and a screenshot timeline of to understand. my friends watched all of this happen

i think theres actually some shills and that they have some moles on the inside. the memes werent joking i think the fed is trying to crack down on this place so hard it dies forever.
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>>80000884
oh yea duh forgot to mention a huge part which is the posts that weren't mine that i'd get banned for were still from within my geographical range so it was like whoever was making the blacked or cp or loli etc posts knew my ip and location and was trying to wipe out my entire dynamic op range too after i would finally get un "range" banned. and the "range" banning on what was i repeat my home stable ip wifi network would just go in and out all day. it would let me make random shitposts or post hentai and stuff but when i tried to talk about fishy shit going on for me and my friends suddenly i would be silenced by a random unappealable ban acting like i was on dynamic ip phone browsing when i was just still on my same home wifi
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4chan used to be much smaller in the early days, and most everyone looks back at those days fondly. maybe the election tourists are finally getting bored.
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>>80001179
No. Always assume the worst. Only a batch of the worst possible posters will be here when this place dies and gets shut down
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>>79998982
People come here when they're 15-18 and leave in the mid 20s, in the past there were more people who came that than the one who left. Thanks to tiktok there is no need to go here and so the teens won't do that and the influx of new people declines while the rate of people who leave stays probably constant
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>>79998982
Easy. But you wouldn't like it. Amend global rule 15. Ponies are a ticking time bomb fucking sleeper code for this website. 4chan would be once again known for posting ponies, and new crowds would be brought in due to curiosity.
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>>80000640
>4chan in general just attracts people who either come here because they can basically post whatever
Which is retarded because depending on the board you can literally get banned for just about anything, go on any game related website steam/gamefaqs/reddit and there's constant trolling, shitposting, and fanboying all of which would get you banned on /v/ or /a/, mods even censored people mocking the porn spam on those boards.

In reality the only place where that's ever been even remotely true is /b/ which is an utter blackhole of shit and misery.
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>>80001230
That's the answer. /pol/ isn't attracting new members. Anime is everywhere, this isn't 2004 with normies being creeped out by those "weird Japanese cartoons".

4chan was always for weirdos and autists and we should go back to that. Amend rule 3.c while we're at it. If we're comparing yiffposters to the /pol/ onslaught of redditors and old-men from stormfront, they're barely an inconvenience in contrast. Hell, all of the old things we banned and quarantined don't even add up to 1/100 of the damage done by inviting half of reddit to come post here about racism.
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>>80001230
Eh how bad could it be, I'm with you
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>>79998982
Still twice as many people as there was in 2010.
I remember then the current number of users was always 115k. Go to home page now, I bet it's about 230k.
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4chan is dying because the user base is nothing but effeminate faggots who wish they were women despite pretending to be the opposite and by their very nature contribute nothing whatsoever to anything within this world.
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>>80001346
idk why they aren't contained to /lgbt/
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>>80001355
They're here BECAUSE /gay/
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its the normies theyre insufferable
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>>80001199
This site has definitely gotten older. Millennials complaining about Zoomers infests so many threads.
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>>79999663
Neat, ty an9n.
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>>80001748
thats just zoomers complaining about other zoomers
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>>80001764
Not that anon, but I'm 38 and complain about zoomers sometimes.
Also though I've noticed anons who are definitely zoomers and don't understand the generation date cutoffs complaining about zoomers.
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>>80001849
>don't understand the generation date cutoffs complaining about zoomers.
that reminds me of my sister(20) who sometimes calls me(24) millennial lol
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>>80000843
And there's newfags that want it even MORE sanitized. It's fucking ridiculous.
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>>79998982
Everything bad happening to the site can be explained by the following:
>zoomers
>kikes
>vagina jews
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>>79999648
>No.
(comment was muted because jannies are queers)
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>>80000904
You probably share a region with a prolific spammer. I know anons on /o/ near Las Vegas would complain about catching bans meant for a namefag who used to try and derail every thread on the board
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>>80003017
i can do this too with any person i dont like.
its really easy to slander someone like this..
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>>79999006
It only does that to certain people.
I built a new pc and it stopped doing that
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bring back the old image captcha

get rid of the entire moderation team and replace them with anons who actually understand the boards they're moderating
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>>80004003
>bring back the old image captcha
Go back to redd(sh)it and/or kill yourself faggot.
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>>80000640
4chan isnt hard to mod
You retard
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>>79999083
there used to be a loli board on 4chan, I don't think porn is an issue.
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People love attention. same reason reddit actually went mainstream and 4chan never did.

4chan will always be the incel weirdo website filled with people seeking anonymity. teens right now are just into reddit tiktok and discord instead.
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>>79998982
4chan usage has been inflated since the 2016 election. Bring back the old days
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>>80004024
how about you kill yourself
you know how fucking tedious it is to move your left arm, click and then move back to the keyboard to type this gay ass captcha?
the image captcha is simply superior; type your posts, click click click done.

fuck you nigger
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>>80001230
i wonder how much lee would chimp out if that happened. i feel sorry for whoever has to clean up after him.
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>>80000640
most retarded newfag never have an opinion on moderation again



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