there's a lack of support for people that hate themselves and have mental illness.Because of these things, amongst other things, I thought I was FTM for a good portion of my life and It fucking sucks. Mainly because of autism, bpd, general lack of a sense of self, groomed, socially inept and I grew up with a lot of weird interests and it meant I only could keep friends with other outcast type males, and I grew up in an environment for years fitting in with this type of person, I couldn't make other friends, I was fucked in the end, and I hated myself so much, I thought I had ugly facial features and that I was a failed female, and that it makes sense I should have just been born a man. I was incredibly edgy and just a hateful person, I felt like no woman could understand me and I was projecting my hatred of other women on myself too.It sucks, you won't have support, you'll just be encouraged to troon out online, you're encouraged to, you feel alone and hate yourself? Well there's a community who will love and accept you, and everyone who disagrees with your identity is evil and hates you. That sort of environment was horrible. And it only fed into my loop of self hate.By now, I still have the same mental issues and I feel insecure and just a lot of things, but I identify with my female identity now, albeit I sometimes do still feel the same way I used to, it's just now I dislike it and I realise it's a product of my mental illness and situation. I hope anyone here who's lonely and hates themself doesn't immediately try trooning out like I've seen threads here talk about countless times. We need to provide alternate support without being aggressive and hateful to individuals who are struggling with this I think.
>>80001506My brother almost trooned out or did and reversed it. I wasn't around when it happened, for I was still in the military. But yeah, people need people to knock sense into them. A community that only says YES KWEEEN YOU GO YR SO VALID will only lead to you ruining your life for someone else's thinly veiled fetish. I am BPD myself, but I do not know what it is like to have that compounded with the tism. As far as stopping aggression towards people, it is hard to do when these people are spreading its illness everywhere. If people want unmitigated permission to do whatever they want to do they just go on Reddit. If you want to be told "Yes, cut off your penis. There will be no negative ramifications to this" go on Reddit. And perhaps the aggression from a place like this results in people ending up there.
>>80001531Yeah, especially with male to female individuals people encouraging them to troon is definitely a fetish thing at the expense of the ruined life of someone who's unwell.The bpd and tism combo is rough For the aggression thing, I agree that it's somewhat needed, but I think when you just want to tell them to rope and suicide baiting it doesn't make anyone think they're doing anything wrong it will only enforce their feeling that they are alienated from the rest of society and will be more willing to go get hugboxxed and comforter by twitter, tumblr, reddit ect. I think there should be an I between, toughness but also understanding and empathy because you need to be able to push back, but also it's for a good reason, you're trying to help someone not ruin their life after all. But I get it
>>80001506Many such cases./lgbt/ is full of this
>>80001506Dumbass pooner lol
>>80001506>Mainly because of autism, bpd, general lack of a sense of self, groomed, socially inept and I grew up with a lot of weird interestsYou are still being groomed by communities who tell you you have all these things.
>>80001626I'm not anymore but okay
>>80001634I'm diagnosed. Are you trying to imply that those things aren't real or you think I'm in communities where I've been just told I have those things?
>>80001506I get what you're saying, but what if they still transition even after being treated kindly and after you've offered support? Do you then go back to being hateful towards them?
>>80001674Yes gender dysphorics are diagnosed too. All mental health issues are a sham why are you picking and choosing?
>>80001688I believe gender dysphoria is real, it's something you feel, but that doesn't mean the answer for treatment is to transition and not does it mean you're meant to be the opposite sex, it comes from other issues too.Do you honestly mean everything is fake? Like, you don't believe in schizophrenia or psychotic disorders?
>>80001681hmm, I mean, if they have already transitioned and didn't care to listen when people have tried to help, at that point I think they probably won't listen to anything more, and it's likely they'll stay that away, so whether you're kind and understanding or hateful and aggressive in the end it doesn't matter.I just choose to leave people be if they choose to do something I think is wrong at that point, you can hate them but I feel no need to urge them closer to roping than they already are
>>80001863It makes no sense to me. How come it's possible to get groomed into transgenderism but a shrink can tell you "you have bpd here's your bpd meds" without it being a groom? Schizophrenia is different because that's something that can easily be spotted from the outside, but every mental health issue that is based on feelings isn't real.
>>80001506Didn't read, your own fault for being stupid enough to think you're trans. I've self hated for 25 years and I still never had an inkling of trooning out. Take some responsibility for your stupidity. Dumb females can't take accountability for anything in their lives
Troons dont want to take advice. Its as simple as getting exercise and going on an extended nofap and quitting porn forever. When I tell them this they just get mad and upset
