>>80062175
I don't get it though, why?

>>80062188
attachment is the root of all suffering, it paralyzes you. the more you feel that you need something the more pain it will cause you because you will be hurt by not having it and if you have it you will be hurt by the fear of losing it and this will define you.

>>80062228
But if we have no attachment at all we become indifferent, and indifference is not appreciation. On a more emotional level, we end up hurting those who appreciate us; you would say that they hurt because they care, but it also leads to a vicious cycle where everyone ends up jaded and indifferent, because we learn to not get attached. Isn't it a bit bleak?

>>80062325
Eastern philosophy btfo by a single autist

>>80062331
I'm not autistic, I just think and overthinking about stuff.

>>80062325
>But if we have no attachment at all we become indifferent, and indifference is not appreciation
Not that anon, but you appreciate breathing air. You are not attached to any individual particle of air. Any oxygen nitrogen air will do. You appreciate croissants maybe. You are not Required to be emotionally attached to the idea of croissants to enjoy them.

>>80062404
>>80062325
In other words you are not emotionally attached to air or croissants, but you are not indifferent to them. You still enjoy croissants, and breathing air.

>>80062325
its not about becoming completely detached or losing your ego, its about controlling your ego instead of letting it control you. your wants still exist and its good to have them when you are in the state of mind to actually recieve them without anxiety or fear

>>80062420
>>80062404
I was going to say a couple of different things on this but all I could dumb it down at is: it's nuanced, really. I might enjoy a croissant simply because it's tasty, because I like the cream, maybe I have a sweet tooth, or maybe I have fond memories attached to a croissant and the taste of it is secondary.
I guess the thread meant romantic partners and nuances would still apply, if we set aside the incel culture that would usually be brought up in these kinds of topic, all I could say is: people are starved. It's not always a conscious need. Some people hunger for love, some hunger for a goal, some hunger for motivation and some maybe simply hunger for peace. Need and hunger can be somewhat different despite having a similar feeling, but as I suggested a need can be conscious, hunger is a feeling that can't be controlled because it's part of yourself.
>>80062426
>its good to have them when you are in the state of mind to actually recieve them without anxiety or fear
The previous point I wrote here also applies, and there is a quote I heard that helped me put things into perspective; I want to say first that your point is valid, because receiving things without anxiety and fear is generally be considered healthy. As for the quote, it says "Think of a man who starved for days and days, and you offer him food, what manners would you expect of him? When you are hungry you don't think about manners", the same way some are fearful or anxious when they receive something, because they might be starved of what they receive. Of course I'm omitting other issues like mental health, which is the most obvious one.

simply decide not to suffer. The idea that its easier to reject all early belongings in avoidance of suffering than it is to simply decide that you will not allow suffering to effect you is quite frankly backwards and juvenile. Theres nothing actually wrong with suffering. Wouldnt deciding that there is no real need to avoid suffering because it ultimately isnt actually a bad thing ironically be the best course of action. If we arent supposed to care or worry why is your entire religion focused around avoiding a feeling. Embrace the endless cycle.

>>80062325
Got em'. It's okay to attach. It' okay to care. Just understand it's not forever, and enjoy it for what it is, in the moment.
>>80062404
Okay, except that describes attachment. Deriving enjoyment from something is a form of attachment. So that doesn't work. Before you try to argue, or play semantics that enjoying something isn't a form of attachment I just want you to know I won't bother responding, because you are wrong about it, and I'm not going to waste my time. Just tired of midwit eastern entry level psuedo enlightened garbage.

>>80063033
You misunderstand, its not about deciding not to suffer, its about how you respond to the inevitability of suffering. Your mind has to be able to defend itself or suffering will just lead you to despair and break you.

>>80063095
> It's okay to attach. It' okay to care. Just understand it's not forever, and enjoy it for what it is, in the moment.

lmao you just described what we're saying, so we're in agreement