Date 1>Age 31 was first date>She is a single mom at 30 met on dating app>Go to restaurant>She is there with fucking kid(2 year old)>"Oh sorry my babysitter bailed out at the last second and I didn't want to cancel.">Don't bail because it was first date ever and I was basically in shock>Entire date keeps trying to get me to interact with her kid and says how bad she wants to be a stay at home mom and doesn't want anymore kids though.>Whines about ex abandoning her when she was 8 months pregnant saying he got a new job in another country without her.>Still technically married to "ex" saying she doesn't know how to file for divorce when he is in another country.Date 2>Age 32>Woman is 28>She has short pink hair, tats, and nose piercing>Her profile pictures were her with long blonde hair and no tats.>Spends entire date talking about her politics and how her life revolves around them.(Never mentions politics in dating bio.)>Wants to get married and have husband take her last name.>"I will abort any child that is not a girl.">Brags about her body count and says she now wants to wait until marriage for sex because her last 2 relationships were "open" and decided she wants monogamy now.>Talks about how smart she is because she went to college.>Said she only agreed at date with me because I was 6 feet tall and made 6 figures.>She works as a barista with over 100k in student debt with a degree in art and is 5'1.Date 3>Age 34>Woman is 35>Profile pic is years old. She now has face tattoos and is a lot fatter now.>"I want at least 6 kids.">Has 1 kid a son.(Never mentioned kids on her profile.)>Says she used to party but needs something stable now.>"Would it be okay if my ex is sperm donor for kids? He doesn't have any money but I want my kids to all have the same father.">Shows me picture of kid and he is black.>Drop some cash and excuse myself and walk out
>>80062720Date 4>Age 34>She is 27>Looks like pics at least>She smells like cat piss. It was literally the first thing I noticed.>Unhealthy obsession with cats.>Has 5 cats and wants more>Her interests are travelling, weed, and cats.>By travelling she means she wants to have me buy a RV and drive her around the country with her cats while she smokes weed and quits her job.>Can't cook and says she only eats out.>Claims to be deeply religiousThe lesson I have learned from all this. If you spend your 20s focusing and improving yourself by doing stuff like working out, and acquiring currency you are going to end up with some of the lowest tier women possible. You have to find your wife by your mid 20s or you are completely fucked for life.Please don't make the same mistake as me and fall for the "self improvement meme".
>>80062723>>80062720Thats unfortunateYou have been muted for 2 seconds, because your comment was not original
>>80062723It's worse than that. All the guys who got hot young wives were also just focusing on grinding in their 20s but they were tall and genetically handsome so women pursued them, shared them, and gave them endless sex and pleasure during a period of brain plasticity to change it in an amazing way that you are now locked out of on account of age. They gave this even to violent rapists so long as they were tall and handsome.
>go on 4 shit dates>i guess im fuckedweak
>>80062801I already know life is going to be like that comic except I will have to marry a single mother or I get a drug addict. Those are my choices.>>80062863I am pretty much fucked yes. My options are nothing or spending my life raising another man's children for him and supporting them financially while the woman refuses to have children of my own with her. This is what happens if you can't get any dates until your 30s despite not a lack of trying. The chance of finding a compatible companion with a similar lifestyle and experience as my own are basically zero.
>>80062863Yeah he just needs to simp a trillion times before he checks out of turbosimping for a whore.
>>80062723You could have saved #4 though. She seems recoverable. Teaching basic hygiene and cat care so she doesn't smell bad is easy enough and she probably could have been coaxed out of her delusions of van life after a while, or maybe convinced to just take a few shorter road trips instead.At your age I think a fixer upper is really all you're gonna get. The "unicorn" women who are all perfect to you and have no kids are already exceedingly rare by the time you enter your 30s so you have to choose wisely and settle in some cases.
>>80062896you aren't fucked, you tried FOUR TIMESyou're tall and make good money, yet chickening out 4? what the fuck, i cant even tell you how many women i had to sift through to find my gf's and you're sitting there complaining about 4.>>80062918>4>a trillionway to take it to the extreme geniusthis reeks of a demoralization thread
>>80062962Several issues with her. I could put up with the cat thing and have her hygiene issues fixed. The main issue was her wanting to travel around the country, her lack of interest in learning to cook,(I don't like eating all the time) and the one part I really don't like which is the drug use. I can't stand being around drugs. It seemed pretty important to her about "helping her calm down" and "destress". I probably would have pursued further if I could change the rest besides the drug use.>>80063000>you aren't fucked, you tried FOUR TIMESI turn 36 this year and haven't had matches in months. My options are getting worse and more narrow. I wouldn't exactly say tall at least by today's women's standards since I am just 6'0. I know I am going to have to bite the bullet and financially support some single mother so she can stay at home while i financially support her bastard offspring or end up with a drug addict or alone. I have pretty much accepted my doom even if there is some side of me that still has a tiny bit of hope that is likely delusional on my part. I did have an offer of setting me up on a "blind date" on monday by a female coworker but male my male coworker warned me after I saw I would think about it saying it was the coworkers tranny "sister". So I am grateful he was able to avert that disaster.>this reeks of a demoralization threadI consider this a warning thread rather than demoralization. I want the younger robot anons to heed my warning and find a woman in their younger years and not wait to be stable like I did. I am hopeful they will be just fine if they can get the girl by their mid 20s and marry by their late 20s. The only one demoralized is me and I don't want them to end up like me.
>>80062723>Please don't make the same mistake as me and fall for the "self improvement meme".It's doube age sword.Indeed you would be better following age milestones. But going into dating game at big disadvantage may hurt you too. I was failing in physical development (thin, small, nerdy boy). In school I had nothing because of that, in college I thought new environment may help start from the blank state. But in college competition became much harder, I had two girls two speak with, they both one day ended with macho types who where head above me, and girls pretended they never knew me. I was absolutely shattered, self esteem fell below zero, I got heavy case social interaction avoidance, that hurted not only dating but everything.Several years latter when I finally kinda matured, got white collar job, suits. Girls started paying some attention to me, former classmate (I don't even remember her from school years) on school reunion literally was throwing herself at me, going together at drinking afterparty and texting me after "what plans do I have for holidays?" But I was burned so hard and had so low self esteem that I dismissed any ideas about approaching girls "surely she would just recoil from me when she would knew me better"Playing stacked against you game isn't good either.
I went for SEA and it paid off. Was 29 when met her online. Currently she's working and makes more than me and we have a baby on the way.36 is older sure but you can still find 25-30yo single third world girls. Leftover girls for them, since locals aren't too smart, perfect girls for west.
>>80063163Maye this OP. If you really make afford 6 figures you can afford travel to 3rd world, SEA, Eastern Europe, changing places where you seeking.
>>80063163do you work anon?im 24 going through a rough patch and i might not make enough money to provide for myself, it would be a blessing to not only have a loving wife but a provider one
>>80063185I do work yeah and she wouldn't be happy if I didn't. Got a proper job around 26yo.First year I lived at her place in Vietnam not working while she did. I did use savings still to pay for some. Third world values stability a lot and employment provides that.Maybe Japan can have even older girls willing to provide but very rare still.
>>80062720>he gets datesFakecel. I've never had a date once in my life - hell, I've never even had a biological woman call me attractive once.
>>80063185No 3rd world woman is going to want to be with you if you aren't the provider. Hell, that's something most women anywhere would have a problem with. Being weak is a turn off and not being able to provide or look after yourself, let alone any potential partner is the epitome of that
>>80062720Just geomax to eastern europe or asia and you'll be fine
>>80062720>>80062723This is so fucked, man.>party to your hearts content in your 20s, maybe get laid by a couple of whores along the way, do drugs, dismiss working and school altogether >be late 30s minimum wagie with no future Or>grind in your early 20s, build your future and wealth>too old for college parties, too old in the eyes of 20 year old women>have no choice but to settle with crazy cat ladies or post wall roasties who fucked tyrone so hard his dick is imprinted in her pussy I dunno what to do bros. I'm 22 and still a KHV. I want to fuck girls and party but I can't just stop working cause I pay the majority of the bills in the house. Am I fucked?