the left reminds me of the gnostic demiurge, they see the ubermenche to be utterly pointless to achieve. Thinks we should just embrace what nature gives us. Allow dysgenics to breed keeping more people down through their genes, completely refuse to acknowledge the factors that contribute to mental capacity, and anything that would help us ascend they fear to support.If Adam and eve thought like those people, they would never leave and we would never have the advancements humanity has achieved this far. It would be dull and stale with only two people living in some magical bush. The watchers and the nephilim were icons of freedom, progress, and innovation. I thought the left would support this, but I guess when it comes to politics narcissists like to keep the old ways as long as they are seen as the benevolent rulers that people should rely on.
>>80070179>religion>the left>fairy tales to describe society>politics>mental capacityYou might be one the chuds of all time. Holy shit please kill your self.
>>80070214whatever you say christcuck
>>80070244Not religious retard. Fuck. You are such a chud.
>>80070311>fears progress>thinks you're different from religious retardssorry to break you the news anon
>>80070179the left is what happens when humans get too comfortable with mediocrity and forget how ugly humanity is when pull back a couple layers of civility.The right... Don't even get me started on the right.
i disagree with various premisies here op. By "the uermench" do you mean to say that there is this theoretical super human waiting to ge genetically or culturally engineered, now come on, this leads to many issues, ill elaborate if desired but lets move on for now. For now, ill just ask, what has the right done to promote this ubermench, and what has the left done to subtract it? Next, I d not see how the left "embraces nature" any more or less then the right beyond the lefts willingness to combat climate change at least somewhat. It is also rebublicans, not democrats, who stop progress, such as blocking health care rights, minimum wage increases, and other humanitarian rights. I fail to see the supports to the argumennt
>>80070179this is the first time ive heard someone argue gnosticism is rightwing. most rightwingers abhor gnosticism or the idea of humanity guiding its own evolution. there is a reason the catholic church did all in its power to crush gnosticism whenever it sprang fourth.
>>80070179100% op, and the left zealots will say and do the most evilest fucking shit on the planet to get "in to heaven"
>>80070391True, atleast the right admits it though so it's easier to know where they stand, where as people like >>80070502doesn't, but uses mental gymnastics to explain why they fit the stereotype without actually admitting it, pretty meta of them to be honest. >>80070502>By "the uermench" do you mean to say that there is this theoretical super human waiting to ge genetically or culturally engineered, now come on, this leads to many issues.people have viable arguments against it but it doesn't make it any better from people who outright oppose of it. It just boils down to my fear of progress because consequences. Humanity has done this for centuries and we adapt or solve these problems. Anything you consider a concern about genetically enhancing people such as a hierarchy or whatever is nothing new with humanity.>ill elaborate if desired but lets move on for now. maybe there is more concerns I haven't heard about>For now, ill just ask, what has the right done to promote this ubermench, and what has the left done to subtract it? the right usually with fascism promotes eugenics and applies darwinism to achieve this, the fascists have mobilized apolitical philosophers who touched up on this subject. Regardless what policies they used is irrelevant, they still tried to achieve this new height. As for the left they are against these policies and would rather promote individual rights. Usually of the left is anti establishment which furthers this notion. >Next, I d not see how the left "embraces nature" any more or less then the right beyond the lefts willingness to combat climate change at least somewhat. Unless you talk about the moderates who are usually just there to support the welfare of the people and unions for workers rights, and universal Healthcare.
>>80070587Op is saying the left are demiurge zealots, you misread.
>>80070179> If Adam and eve thought like those people, they would never leave and we would never have the advancements humanity has achieved this far. This unironically pushed me to the left a little bit. "Uhmm actually if leftists were in charge since the beginning of time then there'd be no hell or sin or death or pain or strife and you could do anything you wanted and we'd all be able to talk to animals and Jesus Christ would never have had to come down here and sacrifice himself for us and the world wouldn't be in constant turmoil!" and I'm like waow (based based based based based)
>>80070633Yes, and the demiurge is the gnostic antagonist, he's identifying with gnostic ideas.
>>80070664The demiurge and it's followers are the left. This is what I interpreted
>>80070626>>80070502 part two>2000 character limit>who stop progress, such as blocking health care rights, minimum wage increases, and other humanitarian rights. I fail to see the supports to the argumenntexistential progress is not the same as cultural progress, I don't even see cultural change viable compared to changing the very nature of ourselves to behaviors that would help enhance empathy, cooperation, and remove antisocial behaviors that contribute to greed. Now I'm by no means going to use this to justify remaining a fascistic hierarchy, infact it's quite opposite. Using the viable problems that either people see as a dogwhistle or as an excuse to remain from progress can be used as a spearhead for our progress by changing it. and not a block for nihilism and defeatism. >>80070587I'm not, I'm pointing out how retarded self proclaimed progressivists are while adhering to the same fearful ways of tradition
>>80070179>The left wants to stay in Yahweh's magic garden of tasty fruit and never progressClose, take another guess.
>>80070502Historically eugenics was supported by leftwing inteligentsia in the west to combat poverty and crime.Early 20th century liberalism actually did want to improve life for their people but WW2 brought in a globohomo borderless progressivism focused on improving the life of the thirdworld wretche at the expense of western citizens.
>>80070687>I'm not, I'm pointing out how retarded self proclaimed progressivists are while adhering to the same fearful ways of traditionYou sound like you should be closely aligned with transhumanism and posthumanism thought, which has fringe influence on both sides of the aisle.
