i hate women mostly because of the hellish expierience i had with my mother

>>80071088
i imagine this is the actuality of most incels

>>80071078
>Liking the woman who literally caused 100% of your suffering by birthing you

>>80071078
This board has a lot of women on it. I can honestly believe that it's half female at times. A lot of the people whining about women on this board just want female attention, even if it's negative.

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>>80071097
that just sounds like depression and nihilism maybe even misandry, anti-natalism, but doesn't really answer if she ruined your relationship with women.
>>80071100
thats gross but sounds mildly true

>>80071078
mother died when i was 7
i havent spoken to a women in a year if you dont count cashiers

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>>80071078
I don't hate men, but I don't have a father either. I don't think people should let bad experiences with their parents dictate their worldwide on the opposite sex though. Anons, you didn't deserve to be mistreated by your mother/father. It's a parents job to be a guiding and safe presence for their children, and I'm sorry that your parents didn't give you that. Please don't take it out on those who do not deserve it though.

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>>80071120
>i don't think people should let bad experiences with their parents dictate their worldwide view
while that's easily agreeable its sadly not realistic. our parents define us and mold us at an age where we have no other choice but to be so molded. you can spend an entire lifetime trying to heal.

>>80071111
I guess she did kind of ruin my relationship to women since she was hyper-neuotic and went ballistic on me for mild shit like smoking weed or being alone with my oneitis at her house one time. I still had sex and girlfriends though. But I definitely couldn't use her as a model for my subsequent interactions with girls / women the way a lot of other guys could with their moms. She was mostly just a source of extreme anxiety in my life and I didn't ever have any way to relate to her. I didn't have sisters either so I never actually understood women. Even the few times when I dated them or otherwise had sex with them they were pretty alien to me.

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>>80071161
>while that's easily agreeable its sadly not realistic.
I know, but I think it can be done. One's parents cannot logically represent their entire sex. I think people can show strength and look past their childhood induced prejudice.

my parents are genuinely evil people and i do not love them, but i don't try to view men or women as evil unless they display evil traits. i believe people are inherently neutral beings

>>80071207
Based namefag, tripcodefag

>>80071078
My mother is a saint. With that said, she's still a woman and I have to deal with her inane behavior every now and then, which I do it without (IRL) complaint because of perpetual gratitude for being a good mother. To pretend that men would hate women exclusively and uniquely because of a bad relationship with their mother is extremely disingenuous, specially when modern women are drowned in systems that reward bad behavior.

Any man who has had prolonged interactions with women will eventually think less of them as a collective. It's inevitable.

>>80071078
Mothers loving their sons is the only real love a woman can give, because a son is an extension of her.

Even then some fail at it.
Yes, I love my mother. Yes, I hate women as well. This only makes sense because women are a fucking mistake.

>>80071078
My mother is deeply mentally ill but not in a destructive way (perma depression and bipolar) who always did her best to take care of me despite my dad being a detestable narc and being physically and mentally sick. I love her alot and idealized her quite a bit and I always felt bad for her, not perfect by any means though but no means a healthy relationship

>>80071078
i love my mom
but i hate women

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>>80071078
>the consensus is
No it's not. When we talk about BP it's about human nature. But here we talk from man to man. Only newfags have your vision of things, and we have threads like this one every month.
>like do any of you hate women but love your mothers?
I don't hate women, on the other hand, I have some problems with my mother and I think she owes me a lot.

>>80071272
>one
on*

>>80071078
lol no. My mother has FAS and NPD she's a horrible sick person. She's ruined my sister's lives far worse than mine too. My grandmother on father's side is a fat piece of shit maga culter and my other grandmother was an abusive alcoholic that cheated on and bailed on my mother's father with a crooked state trooper that got kicked off the force later. (obviously why my mother has FAS). AWALT all my relatives were awful people that's why I'm here.

I used to love my mother until some months ago

>>80071321
I wish I had a loving mother, but you can't exactly get one as an adult

>>80071078
Women are only good to their children.
And chad during honeymoon phase.

>>80071161
>you will never draw this well
Oh well. I'm not willing to draw every day to find out if I have potential.

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>>80071344
I hope to find a moid I can love forever one day, even at our lowest points.

>>80071078
My mother is wonderful, which makes the absolute state of modern women even more disgusting in comparison

>>80071078
>same with foids desu, do any of you hate men but love your fathers?
I was abused by both of my parents but I don't hate people. I don't even hate them. I am upset with them, but if they apologized to me, I'd forgive them and stop being upset. My dad died when I was 11 but even when he was alive I didn't hate him even though he abused me. I have a bad relationship with everyone in my family and everyone ik irl, but I'd forgive them for everything if they apologized. But they haven't. I think I like people too much to hate them.

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My mom is an emotionally retarded narc but that never informed how I viewed women per say, I hate women mainly because of what I've observed in them, I used to be a very romancebrained person and even pedestalized women for the longest time

Of course that's over and done with now being in my late 20s, still a KHV and having grown up being told I was a horrible and dangerous person because I have a dick

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>>80071078
my mother has had moid dick in her.
Im repulsed.

>>80071364
You are too good, too pure, for this world. I've been left at my lowest by any woman I ever invited into my life.

>>80071100
That's just stupid. There was way more woman hate before. Not less.
When that hoe got beheaded half of the board was celebrating as if they had won the world cup

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>>80071394
>having grown up being told I was a horrible and dangerous person because I have a dick.
Being a man doesn't make you a bad person, anon. I'm so sorry those stupid people had to make you feel like that, but you didn't deserve it.
Please don't let it paint your view on women too badly though, not every women is like those jerks, I promise.

>>80071120
You seem like a kind person...have you ever worried you are too kind for your own good? From my experience girls without fathers tend to be either abusers or terribly abused

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>>80071176
did you have trouble maintaining relationships emotionally?
>>80071202
our fundamental memories tend to embed themselves quite deep in our psyche. though i agree that everyone has the capacity to be better i fully understand that a bad parent could make them mistrust men or women.
>>80071207
I agree on neutrality. though youre namefagging so i disagree
>>80071229
i have a similar relationship with my mother.
>exclusively and uniquely
don't be silly i didn't say that at all i just wanted to see if there was a correlation, there isn't based on the sample here.
>>80071246
>>80071271
thank u
>>80071262
do u mistrust adult men in any way?
>>80071272
>consensus
>we actually disagree
>we
ok. you're not talking man to man though theres plenty of women on the board. and trannies.
>>80071300
i guess family drama period is a good catalyst for here

will reply more soon srry

>>80071405
>I've been left at my lowest by any woman I ever invited into my life.
I'm really sorry, anon. No one deserves to be treated like that.

>>80071364
Yeah nah fuck off. Years ago I would have fallen for this and simped for you, but there's no "find a moid" for you, its not a difficult quest. All you have to do is brighten up a guy's day with a little thing and you have him for life.

You haven't done that yet though despite being that easy, hence you're bullshitting like every other woman.

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>>80071443
> i fully understand that a bad parent could make them mistrust men or women.
That's true, but I think we need to encourage people to try their best and heal. It's what's right imo.

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>>80071454
>its not a difficult quest.
Kinda is for me. I have my reasons.

>>80071078
It's not hard to explain why an anon would hate women in general but love his mother.
Most mothers love their sons but most women hate men in general (This usually excludes their sons though it's contradictory af) and are exclusively sexually attracted to few men

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>>80071078
My mother was horribly abusive, but I don't hate women, I just don't put them on a pedestal like the fags here do.

>>80071461
That's fine. But don't be surprised that the general consensus from men is all women being shit, when even if unicorns like you exist we aren't able to interact with you. So all we have are the majority, which are shit.

>>80071078
Women on this board are giga mind broken, just like the men here.
On the other hand, in general most women are never honest with men in any sense, and want us to either die, being a walking atm, or be a sex slave. All women? no, there are saints. And do not think I don't think this about men too. We are all in the same fucking boat baby.
And this is just my le opinion.
This comes from a life's worth of experience.

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>>80071443
>theres plenty of women on the board. and trannies
There are normies here but it doesn't mean that r9k is a normie board too. It's impossible to gatekeep every cancer.

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>>80071344
at least its good to know your kids will be loved..
>>80071355
i wish i had an ounce of that skill
>>80071368
what experiences made u sell off modern women? personal only, no dating app stats or online media.
>>80071383
>i have a bad relationship with everyone irl,
you do see how this sounds like trauma though right, i'm not saying people don't forgive enough but your parents do sound like they influenced your now significantly for the worse.
>>80071401
>frog + retarded post
gg anon
>>80071394
did u have a relationship that broke you or just general observation?
>>80071455
the question is how to heal desu. i don't think anyone discourages trying your best but words do not go very far. u remind me of ghost

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>>80071426
>you seem like a kind person
Thank you, anon
>have you ever worried you are too kind for your own good?
I can see where your concern is coming from, but I'm just stating what I believe, and what I believe I should say just happens to be good.
I don't think my optimistic view on things will come back to hurt me, and it would be dishonest to try and pretend that I see things differently.
>From my experience girls without fathers tend to be either abusers or terribly abused.
Maybe this kinda happened to me, but to be honest, I'm not really sure.

Sorry if this post was kind of incoherent or sloppy, I'm sort of multitasking rn.

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>>80071532
Who's ghost...?

>>80071443
damn numbers that's maybe your biggest post yet

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>>80071532
>the question is how to heal desu
I don't know exactly how one would go about doing this, but they'd need to ultimately find a way to let themselves feel comfortable pushing their prejudice aside to see people under a better light.

They didn't deserve what happened to them, their stories sound horrible, but they can't let it continue to taint their view on women. We can all try to be a little better.

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>>80071446
It was my fault for letting anyone inside. I'll never make that mistake again. Ever.

>it's another tranny anime avatar thread

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>>80071574
I know it can feel that way, but I promise we're not all bad. You'll be able to find people that love and respect you, even women. You just need to try and stay a bit hopeful, not let yourself be pulled down further in to pessimism by your past experiences.

>>80071532
>you do see how this sounds like trauma though right
Yes I do see that. And it definitely is. I do not purposely have a bad relationship with people, it is something they cause because they do not like me. I'd wish they would either leave me alone or just try and act nice to me. But I don't see that happening. TwT
>i'm not saying people don't forgive enough
I just find it easy to forgive people because of mental problems I have. It's a lot to explain but I'll just try and shorten it, I just don't see the things they did as a big deal. I am upset at it in the moment but after the moment passes, it's hard for me to care about it. Ofc I feel some type of upset towards it but I just find it very hard to care because of mental problems I have.
>your parents do sound like they influenced your now significantly for the worse.
Probably. I do not purposely surround myself with people who dislike me, but that just seems like how it is. I have hope it'll get better though.

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>>80071496
i agree that its not that hard to reason that you can do both. partially contradictory i think there is a societal rift that makes women hate men more then men usually hate women.
>>80071498
its kinda half and half on the board isnt it
>>80071517
good opinion desu suppose really any brokenness leads here more then any hatred does.
>>80071526
its not no. i just like threads that generate different opinions that aren't just mining

>>80071532
>did u have a relationship that broke you or just general observation?

General observation yeah, I was broken gradually more or less, though I did have two e-relationships and the first one ended sour, but the 2nd one not so much so that probably kept me "stable"

>>80071585
Not anymore, I apologize. There's only so many times you take a risk before you swear off it. Those women who can provide love and respect will find their time better spent on men who aren't as much of a catastrophe as I am.

>>80071078
My mother is largely decent to me personally, but occasionally I get unpleasant reminders that she's still a woman. I mostly try to ignore it, I'm stuck with her and she has chosen to be the "only man she can care about is her son" archetype so I'm willing to accept this. I suspect my "dad" is not my real father, but rather musician Sammy Hagar is.

>>80071646
Some of my closest friends have been women, but I'm pretty judgmental about single mothers and their shitty behavior towards their kids.

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>>80071667
>Those women who can provide love and respect will find their time better spent on men who aren't as much of a catastrophe as I am.
Obviously I don't know much about you, but I don't think you're a catastrophe. Some of my favourite people are channers, and more often than not, they often have the same feelings as you. They often feel like they've been screwed over by women too many times etc, they feel like they shouldn't trust anyone, that's honestly normal here.
I don't think they're a catastrophe at all, so of course I don't think you're a catastrophe.

I think you're just as deserving as time with nice people as anyone else.

>>80071443
>do u mistrust adult men in any way?
No, I just don't really trust people in general. Especially smooth talkers. I can't stand smooth talkers/saleman type people, something about them gives me the ick... although I understand sometimes confidence is a good thing and warranted, it just makes me distrust them

>>80071443
>i guess family drama period is a good catalyst for here
I'm not sure why you're surprised, most of us are kind of narcissistic since there's nothing else to really talk or think about when you've been rotting except go through past traumas and experiences... isolation makes one self-absorbed...after almost everyone's favorite topic is themself, whether they realize it or not

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>>80071543
srry anon i thought u might be >>80071553 also hi ghost
>>80071572
setting aside prejudice is easy enough its putting trust in people that makes it very hard. maybe its just constant affirming, maybe that's the cheapest most effective solution. i just wish it was a bit more effective.
>>80071584
sorry ill post porn next time.
>>80071625
do you find it easy to forgive because you dissociate the problem? like a defense mechanism. created by all the trauma. i am sorry. i hope it does get better.
>>80071652
did the e relationships kill your romance personality?
>>80071680
do you like your "maybe not" father?
>>80071683
we're you raised by a single mother or were your parents together?

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>>80071727
Your heartfelt attempt to reach out would be better spent on someone not remotely as desolate as I. There's a lot of people out there who can still be saved, after all, just don't count me among them. Neither text box limit nor thread limit is enough to untangle the rat's nest of faults I have, nor does anyone have angelic enough patience.

I don't hate women at all, to touch on the thread's topic. They're wonderful. I've just rolled snake eye too many times. I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess I lose again.

>>80071791
>do you like your "maybe not" father?
No I hate his ass lmao but as I've gotten older I understand him better and am more forgiving because I am also a raged out psycho retard. This trait is the biggest thing suggesting that I am his actual son, we are quite alike in demeanor.

>>80071791
>did the e relationships kill your romance personality?

Kind of? Though I'd still say it was mostly general observation, there was a period where I discovered PUAhate/Sluthate, lookism and evopsych and learning about these things pretty much destroyed my heart and now I can't look at women the same

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>>80071443
>>80071532
>>80071646
>>80071791
learn, anon.

My mother is kind and I love her, though I've never told her that clearly. My hate for women honestly just comes down to wishing they, or atleast one of them, would like me.

>>80071383
>I am upset with them, but if they apologized to me, I'd forgive them and stop being upset
This is classic freudian projection lmao. You want reconciliation that you didn't get from your parents, probably because they don't want to admit their wrongs.

>>80071801
NT. The opposite happens to me, it's very funny to me that I look like a taller and darker version of my father.
In fact most people who didn't know us thought that my cousin was my mother's daughter but everyone just knows that I'm my father's son just by looking

>>80071078
My mother moved from ignoring me to suffocating me when I was a kid. Then when she split from my father I was the one that she confided to, got emotional with, told her problems to. Then when I got to be a teenager she tried molesting me. I don't hate women. Mostly kind of neutral to them but intimacy in general scares the shit out of me.

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>>80071770
you remind me of a book. should read pic rel if you're ever bored. your first post was almost word for word out of it.
>i guess family drama
no i'm not surprised. though i like when people (genuinely) reflect and talk about themselves.
>>80071814
i don't think its fair to let manosphere stuff ruin your heart. that would be like girls letting eating disorders destroy their perception of love. both of those things are just the same gender preying on each other.
>>80071829
im so fucking sorry

>>80071854
Where're are you from? Most mothers here would live with their sons all their life if it was up to them but actual incestuous mothers are very, very, very rare

>>80071791
proud to see you effortposting bud

>>80071888
>you remind me of a book. should read pic rel if you're ever bored. your first post was almost word for word out of it.
Huh. I'll check it out. I've never seen this book.

>>80071791
Single mother, with the usual resentment towards her kids but wanted that child support money.

>>80071791
>do you find it easy to forgive because you dissociate the problem? like a defense mechanism. created by all the trauma
Yes this is pretty much it. I actually feel that a lot. People, objects around me, the world around me, and anything that happens in the world around me, doesn't feel real most of the time. Like I know it is real, but it doesn't feel that way. It is easy for me to minimize stuff like that because I feel very disconnected from it. Like it didn't really happen or it wasn't a big deal. I know a lot of people would see the stuff as a big deal, but I feel so indifferent about some stuff from the past most of the time, that it's hard for me to care or realize how bad it was. Ofc I know I should care about it but it's difficult to. When people treat stuff that happened to me as a big deal it is a little hard for me to understand why. Ofc I don't like what happened but eventually I get mostly over it. Unless it still affects me physically.
>i am sorry. i hope it does get better.
Thank you. No need to apologize though, it's not your fault.
>>80071845
Can you explain what that means? Also, my parents are who I am talking about forgiving.

Not really, wish I chose my dad instead of mom in divorce when I was a kid. Mom never even really learned to cook, she cooks as much as I do despite being so adamant about healthy eating and all this spiritual shit. She's definitely easier to be around for most people though. My dad took a lot of work to become decent. But I would've come out a better person with more of his guidance.

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>>80071854
good god anon..
>>80071906
good 2 see u at all phantom
>>80071911
give it a look.. warning its psychoanalysis if ur not about that..
>>80071948
i think single mothers are quite tragic in a pitiful way and also in a they go crazy way like you say.
>>80071960
do you worry you won't be able to form a deep connection because of the disassociation? do you feel the same distance from the horrible as you do the sincere? not to drill you if you don't care to dwell on it.

>>80071897
The deep south. US.
>>80072030
Yeah. I know.

>>80072030
>do you worry you won't be able to form a deep connection because of the disassociation?
Well yes, but I do not have a really clear answer on this. I think if I like someone, the more I care, sometimes they will feel very weird to me but I still care about them. With people who are people I don't like much, or people who don't like me, I feel very alienated from them. As if they don't see me as a person, and I don't see them as real. I feel that way about everyone I know irl, since like I said they don't like me. But I have 2 online friends that I don't feel that way towards mostly. I find it easier to interact with people online. But yes, I do find it difficult because of other problems as well. Any type of relationship is just difficult for me. I do feel a lot of stuff for people, since I do know that they are real, it's just very easy for those feelings to go away if something happens. Maybe eventually I'll have a deep connection like that, but I'm unsure about it. I wish they did feel real to me. Sometimes they do. It is not a constant feeling, it is just how I feel most of the time.
>do you feel the same distance from the horrible as you do the sincere?
I feel distant from a lot of stuff. Bad and good things. I find it difficult to care or do most things, because it feels pointless to me. But I do stuff anyways because I know not doing stuff isn't an option for me. I know that it is real and I do have to do things, but it just feels like I'm doing everything for nothing. That nothing will go how I want and that I'm making no affect on anything. And that it won't lead anywhere and how stuff is now, is how stuff will always be.

I do care about people. But they still feel distant. Or very different.

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>>80071078
I dont hate women at all, I dont think I hate anyone actually...
I am not sure I can say I love my mother, its nothing against her as a parent, I just don't really know I could say I love you to anyone in life right now and mean it.
I cant wait for the day I can say I love you to someone though.

>>80071078
My mother's alright, if we weren't related we simply wouldn't speak to each other at all. I'm not really enamored with either of my parents as people, and they had me very young so I never really mythologized them much, if at all. Kind of strange to think that I'm older than they were when they became parents now.

>>80071078
I love my mother and she pampers me a lot, but that has nothing to do with hating women. I hate women because they're whores, simple as that
My cousin is one of the sweetest girls I ever meet yet I'd prefer to cut my cock than to have a girlfriend like her, since she's a whore. I don't care how good, loyal, kind and beautiful you are, the moment another man fucked you I never will want you

>>80071078
Not but, just animalistic and blinded by solipsism.
I see women as bipedal lizards, nothing more, nothing less.

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>>80072197
it is easier to interact online i agree with that. else i wouldn't b posting. but its easy to see everyone as not real online too. so you don't push away people because of closeness? that's good anon.
do you think one day you'll start living for real. does all of this feel like a dream currently? being so distant?
>>80072224
hate was a strong word for me to write. love and hate are very strong words that shouldn't probably be used as casually as I said them. its better to not say it until its absolutely true i suppose yes.
>>80072241
im the age my parents had me. i think about how weird it is how early some people have kids. honestly horror.
>>80072279
is your mother a whore..?
>>80072283
women induced schizoid desu!

>>80071078
I've been posting on this board for close to a decade and a half now yikeserino and I only recently started to dislike women within the past year, and I blame it on two main things:

1) Getting older/crankier
Even women my age are childish and irritating

2) Getting a GF
I finally got a gf and her retardation made my life Hell as she dragged me down into her irrational world. I watched her ruin her finances and lose her house after being stuck paying over $500 a month in credit card interest, luckily I didn't ruin my own finances but I spent a lot on stupid shit when we were together.
I ghosted her and she tracked me down and still tries to worm her way into my life, blame me for all her problems, and try to extract money out of me for an imaginary debt..

You won't change anyone's mind here, anonette. We've seen too much, heard too much, and been through too much. Its unfortunate that your gender is pathologically hardwired to fuck us over, and despite our innate tendency to simp we as men had to adapt to being cold and uncaring. Crazy, really. That's life I guess, every species has its own fucked up mating strategy. Like female grasshoppers eating the males.

>>80071078
I got married at 17, divorced at 18 and I saw the whole slew of monstrosities that Western women are capable of up to and including attempted murder.

I work in healthcare and I've been treated very well by many women, including some of the old ladies I help take care of. As coworkers they can be decent, but as friends or lovers they are hardly more than animals who can speak. Seriously, don't trust them with anything important.

As far as the original question, I had a terrible relationship with my mother when I was younger but we have a workable relationship now. She's exactly the kind of woman she was supposed to warn me about and there is a stack of court paperwork to prove it. I get along pretty well with my father as well as my adoptive dad.

>>80072472
>but its easy to see everyone as not real online too
Yes it is. But it is also just easy for me to talk to them, sometimes online it does feel like I'm not talking to an actual person, but for some reason talking to someone one-on-one online is just easier for me to make bonds over.
>so you don't push away people because of closeness? that's good anon.
Well I wouldn't say that. I like people, and I want them to like me too. But I don't believe people when they say they like me. I feel like almost everyone I know secretly, or extremely openly, hates me. And when I become friends with people I feel this panicked feeling that they actually don't like me. And I'll be scared about messing everything up and making them hate me. It's like a constant stress for me. Trying to figure out if they like me or not, and trying to make sure I don't do something that would upset them.
>do you think one day you'll start living for real
Maybe. Maybe once I get out of my current living situation. But I can't tell if living online will make it better or make it worse. I hope it betters it.
>does all of this feel like a dream currently? being so distant?
It feels more like a daydream, or like a book. Idk how to completely explain how it feels

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>>80072526
ill never understand debt maxxed people. i swear being poor is like a genetic disease that makes people consume.
>>80072716
married at 17... are you religious? and did she try to kill you??
>>80072728
no i agree completely. when grade schooling ended i went online and have never craved an irl social relationship since.
the feeling hated thing is kind've a bpd thing isn't it? or a fearful attachment? if you can assign endless labels to it. if i often question if people are aware enough to really hate another person most the time. though theres a lot of drama irl and online so ig it does exist plenty.
do you mean living online because youll live alone and stick to online for socialness?
ive been very dissociative for awhile so i understand to a degree

>>80072472
>women induced schizoid desu!
Just necessary evil, anon, and
I can say I'm immune to disappointments.

>>80072794
>have never craved an irl social relationship since
I would like some, I just fail horribly at it lol. And because of some fears, it is difficult for me to actually make any. It's hard for me to talk to people irl
>the feeling hated thing is kind've a bpd thing isn't it? or a fearful attachment?
No I just have trust issues because I'm kinda naive? And it's caused me some problems in the past. Y'know just trusting people too much and then that turns around on me, and I ended up getting hurt from it. I don't have BPD.
>if i often question if people are aware enough to really hate another person most the time
May just be whatever mental problems I have, but it constantly feels like people irl are out to get me. But that is an assumption based on things that actually happen and is backed up by evidence I have. It's not just something I started thinking out of nowhere.
>do you mean living online because youll live alone and stick to online for socialness?
Well I meant to say alone lol. But yeah when I live alone I'll probably still be sticking to online friends instead of irl ones. Since I can't make irl friends that easily.
>ive been very dissociative for awhile so i understand to a degree
How does it affect you?

>>80072794
>ill never understand debt maxxed people. i swear being poor is like a genetic disease that makes people consume.
Yep. And she is a nurse so she doesn't even have a low paying job, just addicted to her Credit Card.

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>>80072832
It's an action for protection..
happy surprises when its not disappointing
>>80072864
irl has a lot of conditions that make it hard to socialise.
why do you think you're naive? some trust issues seem normal to me. if only defensively.
i don't doubt you have evidence but u can't live with paranoia, at least not if you would like an irl friend or so, hell u rlly can't be paranoid opening up to anyone too much on the internet either though.
i did that for a few years just alone with online friends. ive never met anyone from the internet but maybe you could go that route eventually so you've at least vetted them and they might be easier to trust.
>dissociative
feel like constantly out of it. in 3rd person. reflexes feel a bit flawed. but i've got quite used to it. more complex tasks seem surreal and dangerous though.
>>80072927
honestly seems like a neurosis at some point. compulsive like a tick. though maybe that's giving too much credit idk.

>>80071097
get a fucking grip loser. In going to think about your comment while I fuck my girlfriend on friday to spite you. I hope you think about me too degenerate

>>80071078
my mother is the only good woman on this earth every other woman wants to skin me alive and eat my organs

>>80071078
My mother is nice, I just happen to be observant not all women are equal, especially women of the better era

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>>80072996
hot?
>>80073099
was it really so better or was it just less connected and more uknown

>>80071078
I steal money from my mom to pay for hookers, I call it the incel tax, her retarded ass thought it was a good idea to race mix in a majority white Eastern European country dooming me to being bullied from kindergarten then I'm gonna need my reparations

>>80073109
first half kinda cringe last half completely understandable reasoning

>>80073109
What mix are you? Is it really that bad?

>>80072983
>irl has a lot of conditions that make it hard to socialise.
It is mostly my self image problems that stop me from being able to. And the fact I can't talk to people that well.
>why do you think you're naive?
I just can't tell peoples character that well. I trust them too easily. And in the past that obviously caused bad consequences. If someone told me they were a good person, I'd believe them. And I'd never even consider that they were lying because I thought I could trust them.
>some trust issues seem normal to me. if only defensively.
Yeah same. And that is why I have them.
>at least not if you would like an irl friend or so
I do not see me ever getting one. Especially since I don't leave my house lol. It is just something I wish I could do.
>hell u rlly can't be paranoid opening up to anyone too much on the internet either though.
I wouldn't consider myself paranoid. I just think it's a logical conclusion for me to eventually come to. And now I find it difficult to trust when people say they like me because they could just be lying.
>i did that for a few years just alone with online friends
Are y'all still friends? My only friends rn are online friends.
>maybe you could go that route eventually
Maybe, that would be nice. Maybe eventually I'll meet up with them.
>feel like constantly out of it. in 3rd person.
Does your vision get weird? Or like far away looking?
>reflexes feel a bit flawed. but i've got quite used to it.
Same. I have mostly gotten used to it. How long has yours been happening?
>more complex tasks seem surreal and dangerous though.
What type of tasks? I do not do complex tasks that much but when I do I feel panicked or sometimes I feel like it'd be useless doing it.

>>80073166
I don't know where my father is from, no surprise there, all my life been called a gypsy or an arab, when people have approached me on the street they would always try to speak to me in english since they thought I was a foreigner, that usually ruined my day imagine being born and raised in a country and still felling like an outsider.

>>80073180
if i had a solution to self image i'd let u know.
>im a good person
if no other advice i would say anyone who says this is out for you i swear to god.
>irl friend
suppose you could try the online to irl with enough vetting one day
>they could be lying
i suppose you can never really know. just try and learn how to read peoples motives and mayhaps think about how and where you met them. I wish i had better advice
>r u still friends
yah. a handful ive kept in touch with still. some come and go online others u click with
>meeting up
seems terrifying honestly but its always a nice thought maybe one day type thing
>dissociative
vision yes kinda just gets hazy at times. rlly its just been bad for the past few months. sorta complex tasks like driving. panick has alottt to do with it.. makes it worse when you think about it. rlly useless feel. depressive helpless kinda

>>80073220
Sorry to hear that anon :/ sounds terribly alienating
I'm mixed and always had identity issues (partly because of 4shits and internalized racism) but I was never singled out for it beyond bants and the occasional slur
It's truly a terrible feeling, to feel alienated to be stuck wandering the weird walls like a kid outside a candy shop
That being said, you deserve to find people who make you feel accepted. Please don't give up!

>>80073244
>if i had a solution to self image i'd let u know.
Maybe eventually I'll work on making mine better. It is just extremely bad.
>if no other advice i would say anyone who says this is out for you i swear to god
Yeah, I know that now. Everyone who said that to me ended up NOT being a good person at all lol. TwT
>suppose you could try the online to irl with enough vetting one day
Maybe, hopefully. Don't know yet.
>just try and learn how to read peoples motives and mayhaps think about how and where you met them.
I try, I really do. I just can't ever really tell. Like most of the time. If someone acts nice to me, I assume they are nice. Because that is how they seem to me. I can't ever tell if someone is just pretending because it seems like they are being honest to me. Because I can't tell.
>I wish i had better advice
I don't really think any other advice could've been given desu.
>some come and go online others u click with
I haven't been able to keep online friends that long because I am scared of texting first.
>seems terrifying honestly but its always a nice thought maybe one day type thing
Yeah it does. I'd only do it after a long time of talking to someone.
>sorta complex tasks like driving.
I am trying to learn to drive and it feels very strange to me.
>panick has alottt to do with it..
My feeling becomes worse when I get panicked. And then I start to go numb and kinda cold feeling.
>rlly useless feel. depressive helpless kinda
I feel the same.
Also it was nice talking to you anon, but I'm probably gonna go to bed now.

>>80073464
its hard to become confident in yourself when you don't even trust when people say something nice about you.
i hope you can meet some decent people one day. don't rush it. meet them if it feels right
>motives
hope you can find someone like trustworthy then maybe you can ask them what they think of so and so and then on and on until you are able to establish trust in a few ppl.
>advice
is hard
>texting first
might just need to find someone gitty. or not, some of my friendships you just yap. it doesn't have to be scary.
>meeting irl
yah same I'd have to know someone years otherwise theyre probably going to kill me
>driving
its scary at first specially when youre zone out type. hope you get the hang of it though
>panicking
i wish i couldn't relate so much. feel crazy trying to explain it to a doc. bc you feel weird then you get stuck in a cycle and your panic makes it all hell. I get the cold feeling n u feel all tight and it hurts. sucks desu i get you.
hope you feel better one day

it was nice talking to u too. have a goodnite.

>>80071078
My mother is a narcissist. I haven't seen her in about 2 years, and she makes little to no effort to reach out. The only memory I have of her experiencing remorse/guilt was when she smacked a toy across my face when I was 7 and causing a nosebleed. Pretty sure that's the only time I've heard her say "sorry" in her life, but I'm not sure if that memory was real or made up. I can't remember most of my childhood due to abuse

>>80071078
I love my mother without her I would have killed myself a long time ago