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>An Illuminated Being Who Chooses Rather Than Idolizes
>Free to Act, but Accepting of Consequences
>Pursuit of Wealth and Living in Prosperity
>Accept and Glorify Primordial Carnal Nature
>Cruelty Has Its Place, When It is Warranted
>Conversion Is Not a Goal
>Acceptance for Abrahamic Faiths
>Support and Protection of the Natural World
>Arts and Sciences Are Equally Cherished
>Focus on the Present Day
>Enlightenment Is the Ultimate Goal
>Free Will and Personal Responsibility Are Primary
>Skepticism Is Encouraged
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>>80084224
You know shit's bad when common sense needs a larp to sell
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>>80084268
It's just the case that humans need imagery and symbolism to attach to values, otherwise they'll go insane with rationalizations and overthinking.
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>>80084224
>Luciferianism
you mean people with an iq above 115
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>>80084281
>you mean people with an iq above 115
I suppose... People confuse Luciferianism with Satanism however and there are a lot of borderline retarded psychopathic Satanists who use their image of pentagrams and whatnot to commit foolish evil.
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>>80084291
what you describe in your op are intrinsic values individuals hold dear to themselves

anyone who try to strip those beliefs away from you are pure EVIL and are the work of the devil

their only mission in life is to bring suffering onto those who are strong willed

they will not succeed because light always exposes dark dirty secrets
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>>80084224
>just be a hedonist, bro
Retarded "religion". A fast track to being depressed. At least christcucks promote delayed gratification, personal sacrifice, and community building, which leads people to live far more fulfilling lives.
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>>80084315
Luciferian is strictly against hedonism due to the role of the human in accordance with the laws of nature. You're conflating Satanism and Luciferianism.
>>80084314
>what you describe in your op are intrinsic values individuals hold dear to themselves
some, yes, perhaps.
>anyone who try to strip those beliefs away from you are pure EVIL and are the work of the devil
yes
>their only mission in life is to bring suffering onto those who are strong willed
yes
>they will not succeed because light always exposes dark dirty secrets
Lux
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>>80084315
I don't need any religion, common sense works for me. I don't subscribe to any of this enlightened larp shit either. Common sense is good enough to build on and it can't ever fail or disappoint you.
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>>80084399
>common sense works for me
thing is, a lot of people dont have common sense and need a guide to help them get through life

sad, really...
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>>80084399
It's not "larp shit." All philosophical enlightenment birthed your so called "common" sense. Do yourself a favor and pay more respect to your history.
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>>80084291
>I suppose... People confuse Luciferianism with Satanism however and there are a lot of borderline retarded psychopathic Satanists who use their image of pentagrams and whatnot to commit foolish evil.
You mean all the rich famous people? The ones who desire what he can give?
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>>80084413
didn't you just say to focus on the present day? :^)
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>>80084414
>You mean all the rich famous people?
Indeed. Can't cut it the hard way? Sell your soul for fame and success.
>>80084418
History tends to repeat itself in every present moment so it's wise to research your own, especially so if you know your genealogical roots.
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>>80084433
>Indeed. Can't cut it the hard way? Sell your soul for fame and success.
So what do they so with the souls, put em in a jar? Use them to power the Satanmobile or what?
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>>80084445
Torture them for all eternity on Saturn, pole to pole, until the end of time.
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>>80084483
>Torture them for all eternity on Saturn, pole to pole, until the end of time.

Why Saturn? Uranus sounds more painful
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>>80084494
Well, there's a lot of bullshit behind that, too.
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>>80084508
I thought Jesus was more closely aligned with Jupiter Thor/Odin/Horus/Hezeus
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>>80084525
I don't personally think so. Jesus and Lucifer are just opposing sides of Venus, but still the one and the same.
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>>80084224
Prometheus is cooler tho
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>>80084534
Well Horus fought with Set and lost an Eye, so in Egyptology you could say Set has the Eye of Horus, while Horus retains the other eye. So the theme of duality is there.
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>>80084571
A light bringer, but also a hanged man. Coincidence? I think not.
Worthy is the lamb and all that.
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>>80084591
Funny how I just said it's all the same story, y'know? Animal, God, Animal, God, Animal, God.
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>Funny how I just said it's all the same story, y'know? Animal, God, Animal, God, Animal, God.

OMG THE FURRIES WERE RIGHT
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>>80084618
yeah sure lol, again, in a way.
revelation 22:16
"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."
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>>80084647
Why do Jews call their Star the Star of David when Jesus called it the Star of Remphan?
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>>80084661
Because Jews are Satanic Kabbalists.
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>>80084224
>An Illuminated Being Who Chooses Rather Than Idolizes

freewill is a gimic to sell a bullshit lie, outside of divine power is natural order, and you put your certainty on an entity that doesn't think or care, that we are still a slave to

>Free to Act, but Accepting of Consequences

females are immune to this for some reason

>Pursuit of Wealth and Living in Prosperity

wealth is pointless if it doesn't come from within and your talents and skills which is also genetically determined wether or not you can be skillfull

>Accept and Glorify Primordial Carnal Nature
it's failed us several times and I fucking hate nature, I'd rather abominate nature. This contradicts freewill of lucifarianism if you kiss ass you another power source that forces us humans at its mercy, you might as well just be another branch of christcuckery. I prefer transhumanism to actually promote freewill

>Cruelty Has Its Place, When It is Warranted
like Christians you will willingly accept cruelty just under a different power, makes... sense.

>Conversion Is Not a Goal
ok


>Acceptance for Abrahamic Faiths
I can see why, bend over for a higher power just because it is able to existentially molest you


>Support and Protection of the Natural World
no, again, fuck the natural world and creation as a whole. It's not sentient and doesn't care about us.

>Arts and Sciences Are Equally Cherished
least we can agree on one thing

>Focus on the Present Day
this is how third world countries end up to become shit because no one plans ahead of time or thinks about the bigger picture

>Enlightenment Is the Ultimate Goal
not if we refuse to reach the stars and break Free from nature's grasp

>Free Will and Personal Responsibility Are Primary
only through advancements and technology can we truly achieve freewill

>Skepticism Is Encouraged
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>>80084647
Jesus is called Thee morning star because he didn't assume the title like lucifer did
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>>80084861
Right, because he didn't have to.
>>80084854
>freewill is a gimic
No. We all follow a plan but we still make the choices. We still have the power to decide.
>females are immune to this for some reason
to a lesser extent, for sure.
>wealth is pointless if it doesn't come from within and your talents and skills
true
>which is also genetically determined wether or not you can be skillfull
false, anyone can become good at most things.
>it's failed us several times and I fucking hate nature, I'd rather abominate nature. This contradicts freewill of lucifarianism if you kiss ass you another power source that forces us humans at its mercy, you might as well just be another branch of christcuckery. I prefer transhumanism to actually promote freewill
It's not nature that has failed, it's society. We are meant to be a part of nature, not separated. Your angst is directed toward the artificial world we've created. In the "real" world we probably would not exist.
>like Christians you will willingly accept cruelty just under a different power, makes... sense.
Only when it is warranted. We do not practice unjust cruelty.
>I can see why, bend over for a higher power just because it is able to existentially molest you
Acceptance, not submission.
>It's not sentient
Said the thing that's part of the natural world with full sentience.
>least we can agree on one thing
:thumbsup:
>this is how third world countries end up to become shit because no one plans ahead of time or thinks about the bigger picture
The present births the future. Plan for the future of course but most of your energy should be focused on the moment. Otherwise you are lost.
>not if we refuse to reach the stars and break Free from nature's grasp
Listen Vel, idk what you hate so much about nature. Nature is compassionate, swift, and merciful.
>only through advancements and technology can we truly achieve freewill
denying free will and nature is a terribly rocky path to go down. you feel powerless, afraid.
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>>80084224
you're just describing moralism for slightly edgy people. you have not event taken the first step away from christianity.
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Values are personal. Figure them out yourself, instead of having morality forced on you by some institution. I know that you're probably young and attracted to the aesthetics and a sense of identity that some retarded christcuck offshoots offer, but what you listed isn't really sufficient or even good to live a fulfilling life.
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>>80085031
>Values are personal. Figure them out yourself,
If you have to figure out morals, aren't you just a sociopath?
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>>80085040
Morality is enforced by an outside group of people. Ethics are definitionally personal.
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>>80084922
>No. We all follow a plan but we still make the choices. We still have the power to decide.
we are allowed to choose isn't the same as being able to. Nothing more than washed down christian rhetoric.

>false, anyone can become good at most things.
which us through determination and being able to learn and cultivate information and archiving them, which is genetically determined.

>It's not nature that has failed, it's society. We are meant to be a part of nature, not separated. Your angst is directed toward the artificial world we've created. In the "real" world we probably would not exist
we aren't, the forbidden fruit was ment for us to go against nature otherwise we would still be stuck in the garden of eden. My scorn is definitely against the natural order. There are many reasons for this that it would take forever to describe in this post alone. I'm content with the artificial world as it's a more efficient provider. It is our brains still stuck on the primal setting that is the issue, not the artificial world itself.

>Only when it is warranted. We do not practice unjust cruelty.
which is subjective for any social ruling, I'd prefer an empathetic outcome over draconian ruling.

>Said the thing that's part of the natural world with full sentience.
our sentience is separate from it's will it didnt intentionally create it

>The present births the future. Plan for the future of course but most of your energy should be focused on the moment. Otherwise you are lost.
can agree with this

>Listen Vel, idk what you hate so much about nature. Nature is compassionate, swift, and merciful
it's thoughtless cruel and controlling, if it had a personality it would be a narcissistic mother that bares multiple children at once, while ignoring the sick and nurturing the favorited ones. It allows hierarchy of the natural world to assume dominance over others through its unequal creation. Modern technology we have equalized most things.
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I don't understand how any of this is luceferian but I agree these are reasonable and positive goals and values.



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