The neet hotel is my proposal to replace homeless shelters and social security. It would be like a capsule hotel where everyone can go for free. The capsules consist of a bed on the bottom, on the top is a screen where you can play games or go on the internet. On one side is a shelf where you can put your stuff and on the other you can pull tubes out that you can put in your mouth to pump liquid food into your stomach and that you can put up your ass and dick to suck up your shit and piss. That way costs can be minimized and you never have to leave the capsule unless you want to.
>>80085288sounds fine, anyone who refuses to take a shower should be barred from re-entering though
>>80085288ok cool how much will it cost and who will pay for it? if its not you, how will you get them to pay for it?
>>80085358You would be required to leave the capsule so you can exercise, shower, and clean up the facilite to make sure medical costs can be kept low and the hotel needs to spend less for maintanance.>>80085364The government would pay for it by getting rid of all other forms of welfare. The goal is to ensure that the losers of society like myself are pacified and isolated from normies at a low cost so they don't cause trouble. That would make it a worthwhile investment.
>>80085288This is fine, but no screens. It's one thing to give people somewhere to go when they're out of options, it's another thing to enable screen addictions. If there are any screens at all, there should be TV in communal areas at low volume to promote socializing, and a learning annex with offline access to educational material.
>>80085436Socializing is bad because that leads to crime and disorder.
>>80085394If the point is to take care of the NEET problem while cutting other forms of welfare, why not just adopt a negative income tax as Milton Friedman proposed?
>>80085463Bullshit, socializing is healthy. These aren't prisons, but they shouldn't be promoting the social illn that caused such a high neet population, and while the goal of these places should be shelter, the admin should always encourage and enable rehabilitation and reintegration into regular society. Most people would never get behind government funded gooncaves. Vices like gaming, drugs, isolation, junk food, and porn are liberties that you have to earn for yourself, not appropriate for public shelters.
>>80085494Negative income tax alone won't enable neets to avoid responsibility for living in modern society the way they want.
https://youtu.be/6amK2BgjXk8
>goes to NEET hotel>puts shit in storage >gets stabbed in sleep by schizo NEET >???
>>80085494That would cost more. If there was just one big warehouse in every city where all the neets lived together that would make it cheaper than if everyone got money every month.>>80085511Gooncaves would be better for society because people like me aren't able to contribute in any way. Automation is going to make this problem even worse in the future. Normies will hate the neets more and more as this gets worse and then the choice will be between keeping neets alive at a low cost or killing all neets. If there's no welfare for the useless population they'll try to overthrow societs.
>>80085511Dude fuck off, escapism is literally the only good part of life, why do you get off on putting that behind a paywall
>>80085572This world just sucks if you're not born rich and healthy. As I said, automation will take away the ability for everyone but those people to make a living so at that point there's not even any ability to cope anymore.
>>80085572If you make escapism and vice possible in this kind of publicly funded lifestyle facility, then you're going to attract otherwise productive citizens, and the system won't function. The people on the outside of your neet hotel make your lifestyle possible, so there have to be goodies they get that you don't. You choose to live in these places, you're free to live there, but not free to live as you like. That has to be the compromise. The normal citizens can be convinced that these places are necessary, but you'll be living there according to their values. There has to be some expectation that you might be rehabilitated there, even if realistically you won't. Getting food and shelter for free is escape enough.
>>80085531>>80085567>That would cost moreit was literally designed by a turbocapitalist libertarian of the Reagan era to be less costly than welfareAnd it would also be easier to market it to the normies, rather than the gooncaves the other anon is complaining about you tell them it's a new less costly form of welfare that actually incentivizes people to still earn more on their own and get out of poverty, even if someone like me who's determined to stay out of the rat race will probably manage to get by without doing thatWouldn't that make a pretty good compromise between people like us and the rat race enthusiasts?
>>80085642It'll take literally one video of someone jerking it or smoking weed in their welfare pod to get the taxpayers outraged and these things would get shut down.Also rat race enthusiasts are not real, everyone in the rat race would like to be on vacation. We just need a rat race so the lights will come on and the heat works in the winter and the grocery stores have food.
>>80085635If you want to go there than make it so when you check into these hotels you're automatically given a small low paying job without having to worry about food or rent, there's no need to put people in forced socialization spaces like in prison
>>80085635The benefit of living outside the neet hotel would be that you could eat real food, have sex, socialize, have a larger living space and so on. Life there would be really depressing if you're a normie. For someone like me though who already lives in cramped conditions and subsists off the cheapest slop I can get it wouldn't be that difficult to get used to. Life just sucks if you're born the wrong way.>>80085642I'm talking more about bringing down living expenses. Negative income tax has the benefit of lowering administrative costs but you'd have to pay people a substantial amount of money so they can live off that alone with no other public services. The neet hotel would go in the exact opposite direction because it just has the goal of keeping people alive and with something to do at minimal cost. That would drive down the cost of living for everyone there by a lot and so save money.>>80085695I'm already living that life living off neetbux. There are millions of other people like me who are useless to society and get that treatment. At least if society was honest about how it doesn't really need me nor care about me beyond keeping me alive and occupied they'd at least give me a comfortable box they can shove in a warehouse where I can live and play games all day without having anyone annoying me. In my country they force you to talk to normie beaurocrats regularly where you tell them about what you do to get a job and sometimes you have to go to these job fares and stuff. You don't really have to do anything beyond that and can just live on welfare indefinitely though. Unless you're actually turning it into a prison with draconian rules and punishments, the useless parts of society who can't get a wage high enough to make working 40h+ a week worth it just won't reintegrate into society and after a while the average taxpayer gets used to it because in the end they also just prefer us to be out of sight out of mind.
>>80085695>in their welfare podI wasn't talking about welfare pods though? i'm confused, you think i'm arguing for NEET hotels + negative income tax? no, it's one or the other, of course>Also rat race enthusiasts are not realRat race enthusiasts are absolutely real, the world is full of workaholics who can't conceive a life without ze work, you must not have a lot of experience with the world out there to say something like this
>>80085777>you'd have to pay people a substantial amount of money so they can live off that alone with no other public servicesIt's not designed to do that, it's not UBI
>>80085761>Forced socializationNever said that, I just said the screens go in areas for socialization, so people don't lock themselves in the pod all day for the rest of their life because there's a screen in there. We should promote socializing but not force it, there should be a decent variety of opportunities to make social contact, and minimized opportunities for complete isolation. I think also there should be daily podcleanings where everyone is forced out of the pod for a few hours while things are cleaned. >>80085777You are needed in society though, you just don't want to do anything to cultivate yourself or do anything difficult. I'm in the trades, and my crew, and every other crew I work with is in need of people. Every business is in need of people willing to take responsibility on a management level. There is a giant shortage of talent across the board, and at the same time a huge population of people unwilling to even start working. If they build these facilities, you're even going to have a shortage of people to keep them running. Kind of off topic I know, but despite all that, I do think there's some merit in this kind of place, but it should be designed to give safety and secure living arrangements, be affordable to the public, and lift those kinds of people up, instead of a place to forget about them and let them sink further into their vices.
They basically already have these in japan. Benefits of living in a high-trust racially-homogenous country, i guess.
>>80085877>We should promote socializing but not force itYeah however you want to call itYou're still creating a prison-like environment for no reason other than getting off on making NEETs sufferMy idea is better and addresses all of your concerns in good faith>You are needed in society though,Kek fuck off, if i was they wouldn't have slammed the door in my face for not having 10+ years of experience and/or a phd in literally every field of work i applied to
>>80085945When I was starting in my trade, literally just a year and a half ago, I walked in and shook hands and everyone I talked to needed someone, and I was entry level with no experience in the trades, just eager to learn and work. Maybe there's no shortage of college educated kids with no real work experience who want a cushy desk job.
>>80085288marketing, marketing, marketing. you need to spin it as healthcare and get insurance to pay for it
>>80086095CoolCould you please talk to all the supermarkets in my area and teach them that they have a labor shortage, too? i'm kinda tired of being cockblocked by the omnipresent "experience required"
>>80085288This has already been done before
>>80086257There's a labor shortage for all the sectors that can't be automated. You're either lucky and fall into the category of people who can get good employment or you're stuck as the dirt of society and any little mistake you do can put you there. This will get more and more extreme as time goes on. There will be a small elite of rich people and the rest will be relegated to being bottom feeders.
>>80086257I bet I could get a supermarket job with no supermarket experience. There was a girl at my last job who got a job in the supermarket bakery with no supermarket experience and she was fired from that last job for cause. Maybe there's something else going on with you? I couldn't make suggestions without knowing you better but maybe examine yourself
>>80086370Any idiot can be a painter or a sheetrocker or a carpenter, you don't have to be born lucky. If you're actually physically disabled and can't do those jobs, then the public should be taking care of you, but we had a literal mental retard working on our crew for years doing stuff like drilling holes and carrying equipment around. There's a big difference between "can't find work" and "unwilling to do the available work"
>>80086374>Hurr durr it's ur fault then!OkYou're still not going to get work from me then, and not for lack of me trying>>80086364The Matrix pods seem kind of niceYou get free goo, free tubes, they kill youSeems nice
>society needs you, goy>even though getting a job is impossible, your jobs are being given to imported shitskins, and everything still functions despite the high number of unemployed peopleIf the jews who own this country really needed or wanted us, we would all be employed.
