Being a woman is degrading and I don't understand why you closeted trannies envy women so much.>they get men spoiling them!Only the white and pale asian Chadettes get really successful, and whoredom is not worth being a social pariah.Not only are women physically weaker but are emotionally haywire due to hormones, monthly razor-sharp stomach aches via periods, pregnancy and childbirth, etc. Risking death for every child you reproduce. More painful sex on average. More risk when it comes to sexual activity, including receiving STDs from men more easily. Millions of women get their pussies torn up and stuck raising screaming kids while men play video games and smoke with their friends. If you're female you have to clean after your brothers because you have a pussy and he has a dick.There is a reason MTFs are mentally ill, because no sane male would want to be female.
>be born female>weaker body and risk being anally raped by a hobo and get HIV every time you leave the house after 9pmtroons fetishize this thats why they transition
>>80118318I'm glad I'm a man and not a woman because I enjoy my physical and intellectual superiority.I resent women not because I think they are better than me, but because they are intensely privileged. It is a sort of privilege I'm unsurprised you don't see, because you're so immersed in it (and so frequently told that you're actually a victim) that it's invisible to you.You're right that being a man is better, but that doesn't justify the mistreatment of men at the hands of spoiled girls.
>>80118343Instagram white girls do not represent the entire female population. Women and girls regularly get punished for reporting rape and told they asked for it by existing with a vag. Imagine you were anally raped and told you asked for it because you took the bus and a gay man happened to be there.
>>80118408>Women and girls regularly get punished for reporting rapeYou are completely delusional
>>80118444and then you bitch when women return the same level of apathy lmao
>>80118512I'm not being apathetic, I am being realistic. If you believe that women are punished and not rewarded for their shitty behavior, then you are living in another universe entirely
>>80118444Female victims of rape being threatened out of reporting is in fact common.
>>80118574>pakistanNobody gives a shit what happens in hellhole countries. I'm talking about the real world populated by actual humans.
>>80118538THEIR shitty behavior? For reporting a rapist? Actually why the fuck am I surprised lmao.
>>80118590It also happens in first world countries. But even if there was proof for each victim you would tell them all they deserve to be sexually abused anyway.
>>80118604Yeah, the vast majority of reports are untrue. In high school I got reported for molesting a classmate, and I ended up getting expelled and sent across the country for a false accusation. If you expect me to sympathize with the girls who do this shit, then you're insane.
>>80118617>it also happens in first world countriescitation needed
>>80118620>false rape accusations are untrue because of my personal testimony overrides actual rape victims and is gospelaverage moid
>>80118318If I had been born a man my parents wouldn't have divorced
>>80118628>actually your lived experience is invalid and you should just accept our unfettered power to ruin your life with no cause or justificationaverage foid
>>80118628>*are the vast majority of rape cases, not untrue.
>>80118642>cries about liars while lying about someone supporting false rape accusations just because they said unreported rape exists
>>80118318A lot of guys into that also jerk off to the humiliation and horror of all the stuff you're describing.It's called masochistic emasculation fetish.
>>80118620>>80118642You are either lying for (You)s or asked for it by associating with that woman.
>>80118620Give me the proof of this. I want to see where you got this information from, that most are untrue
>>80118671this is the kind of word salad only a woman could put together>>80118696>denial>victim blamingtypical foid behavior
>>80118756You must be a foid then
>>80118318>and whoredom is not worth being a social pariahYet most women are whores
>>80118318>risking deathI mean not really these days with modern hygiene standards and other factors mixed in. Plenty of jobs are probably more dangerous day to day. Also I cleaned up after my sister, not the other way around. She had bottles of products she used laying around everywhere, hair on counters and carpets, dont miss that.
>>80118318You are born with value, even if it eventually disappears as years go by.As a man, I feel like my presence is always not wanted, that I must always prove that I have value and a purpose.Not to mention, I would give anything to experience sex and relationships as easily as you do (as soon as you sexually develop).It must be so nice to be normal as easily as you, just because you have a fucking vagina and the world enjoys your existence by default.
>>80118574>MuslimsWoooow
>>80118777>I know you are but what am Ifoid argumentationThis is obvious ragebait lmao I can't believe I fell for it
>>80118318They're mentally ill, that isn't news. Are you retarded?Women are inferior to men in EVERY aspect. They only are valued and protected because they birth life, nothing more and nothing less
>>80118797Men's value increases with age because women find older men attractive. Whereas women are seen as worthless as soon as they hit menopause and have to play the game of finding a husband who won't cheat/beat them. If I could, I'd pass my periods onto you and let you carry children for me, but that isn't happening.
>>80118830You're on a board full of fat autists who live the NEET life with their aging parents, don't fucking talk about anyone's "worth".
>>80118847Not that anon, but if a woman had a way to force me to take her periods and have me give birth after sex instead of her I'd accept and would be even more sexually aroused than I already am on a regular basis. Hopefully she'd also make me wear girly maternity clothes and would give me ice cream and pickles and would hold my hand as I'm pushing the baby out and she'd call me a good mom afterwards.
>>80118830Funny because there are plenty of female doctors, teachers, scientists, etc. But because they have a vagina you broadly dismiss their achievements, you insult the people who risk their lives just to put you in this world and wonder why the birth rate is plummeting.
>>80118847I don't want to be a woman, I just envy those privileges you have.It's basically easier to be a mediocre person but live a comfortable life, while as a man, it is an "all or nothing" type of thing (you must be attractive, successful or rich, or you literally don't matter).
>>80118859A man is at worst worthless, women manage to have negative value
>>80118318Being a woman is not degrading. You're born prebuilt with a purpose and utility for society. Men, on the other hand, have to struggle and strain to be of any value to anyone. I would gladly take endless puberty and period pains if it meant I was inherently worth something vital to our survival as a species. This is not to mention always having control over having the baby. If I get some drunken man to knock me up, there's nothing stopping me from having his child without his consent. The reverse is not true. I can't force a woman to carry my seed, at least not in our modern age.The only thing I have to do as a woman is not be raped, and I just win in all exchanges right off the bat. If I carry a gun or mace, what's a guy going to do unless I'm whoring around? The fact that modern society pretends to not value women for giving birth is stupid as fuck. If a society truly did not value moms and their ability to make good children, it would destroy itself within a mere generation or two. There is no future without women. This is why I envy them at times, even though having a dick and not dealing with woman problems like being too weak to pick up milk jugs is pretty cool and it's impossible to imagine myself as a woman. Autistic or reasonable women are literally the best of both worlds, logically speaking, if I'm trying to be as valuable a person as possible.
>>80118887What have women ever done to benefit anybody except themselves
>>80118894This is actually so gross to me. The entire history of humanity is the history of exploitation of men
>>80118408>instagram white girls don'tOf course they do.>>80118574>generic brown hellhole countryWho cares about them. That said, I will readily apologize and give an actual answer if you are from there or somewhere similar, but this is the equivalent to saying "why do so many people starve? look at this african village!" while everyone in the US is obese.>>80118796Modern hygiene standards are better, but many practices are worse. The whole "laying down and pushing out" position is much worse than squatting. Medical malpractice is one of the leading causes of death. Shit's fucked but it's not just fucked for women many men die as well.On that note OP, you mentioned women dying from childbirth and that pain, and you are absolutely correct that that happens. It's a shame but it's just the way of the world. However, you completely skipped over men dying in MUCH larger numbers due to occupational hazards of dangerous jobs.More men die from work than women die from (child) labor. One of those is preventable. Yet it's unaddressed, because it's men.Were you aware of this and just chose to overlook it, or was your privilege of being female blinding you to this?>>80118847>and have to play the game of finding a husband who won't cheat/beat them.70% of divorces are initiated by women. My own mother lied out of her ass to put my father through a terrible divorce, and the courts here (in the US) readily believed her over him because she's a woman, DESPITE THE FACT THAT SHE WAS A DRUGGIE. I won't go into any more of the story but just know that family courts are massively, massively overweighted in the woman's favor due to mindsets like yours that women are always the victim.>>80118887That all said, I don't agree with the men who denigrate women either. That's fucking stupid. Women are not men, and shouldn't be judged as men, much like you shouldn't judge a dog and a horse the same. However they're equally as necessary for society.
>>80118894HEY!Did you know this is an image for ants?I PAY YOU (in (You)s)TO SHITPOST, DO BETTER.
>>80118937women were exploited for their reproductive labor while men sat around talking about philosophy, shut the fuck up lmao
>>80119057Can you at least pretend to acknowledge the argument we're making?
>>80119057Exploited how? Men provided food and shelter, women provided reproduction. It was a fair trade. Some men had it better, some women had it better.
>>80119095Men contributed so much more than women ever did. Women's only job was opening their legs. Men needed to provide food and shelter, sure, but they were also the soldiers, the traders, the leaders, the religious figures, the philosophers, the artists, and most of all, the scientists who developed all of the technology that advanced society and allow women all the luxuries they now enjoy. It's nothing close to a fair trade.
>>80118937At least back then they got rewarded by marrying a decent woman, having a house, land and being respected while now women take the benefits, don't give back anything and still complain about it
>>80119207Yeah, it wasn't a fair trade but it was at least a trade. Now it's a lot more like slave labor.
>>80119151>men did all this shittrue. however many men did that to impress women. sure, you can't really say women "did" anything outside of existing, but that was still enough to motivate the man. and the whole children thing.without the women tying men down to contribute to society, i have no doubts many men just wouldn't have cared.and the whole raising the child thing.so the fairness i mentioned was more abstract rather than tallied up exactly.
>>80119218Why are you complaining though? If you believe your assessment is correct, then just opt out. Live by yourself and don't deal with men. What's the problem?
>>80119239Because I need a woman to be happy
>>80119151Well maybe because they actively prevented us from doing those things so it was not as acknowledged, you twat.
>>80119295>actually it's men's fault that they were pressured into doing all of the labor for all of historyThis is what women actually believe, by the way.
>>80119306Another chauvinist huffing his own farts.
>>80119239Ah, my apologizes. I thought you were the bitter woman, that question was directed at her.Rest is written to OP.If men are so evil, there's no need to waste so much energy on it. Go to work, go home, enjoy single lady things like playing with your cat and drinking wine, rinse and repeat until it's over. Carry a gun just in case there's the statistically rare chance of unknown assailant trying to do something to you, and all your bases are covered. IF you wanted nothing to do with men, thinking they were fundamentally evil, isn't complaining about them online a waste of energy?>REEE men>hehehe, yes, YES. Suffer more, your frustrations fuel my sadistic desires hehehe.If you truly believes this, stop coming here where there are men. Go join a woman's circle or a convent or something.Unless you're just doing the standard "women can't do anything on her own volition, only bitching to men to solve her problem for her", which, why would we if we're evil?>I don't want anything from you! I just want to bitch!So men are an outlet for you feel better? Sounds like even in this most twisted desire you still need men. If you don't, go vent to women. There's no reason for you to be behaving this way if your world view was internally consistent as presented.
>>80119320I'm retarded and quoted the wrong person.Should have been meant for >>80119263Embarrassing.
>>80119313>can't think of an argument>starts hurling random insultslike clockwork.
>>80119320No worries. I am an ally of anyone who criticizes evil women.
>>80119269Women love saying that they didn't made anything because they were oppressed but that's dumbThere's no oppression today, only privilege(at least in developed countries)and women still are far behind. The best teachers are men, the best scientists are men, the best doctors are men and etc. The only thing women are ahead is college degrees rate(for dumb gender studies or some shit)and Onlyfans accounts, which are meaningless if you're going to be a barista anyway The richest women are rich because of divorce or because their husbands/fathers died and they got inheritance Regardless if they're "oppressed" or "free" they still are under men. There's no society where women are superior
>>80119320>IF you wanted nothing to do with men, thinking they were fundamentally evil, isn't complaining about them online a waste of energyincels do this shit every day they talk about how we are evil subhuman foids with no soul while having romanticized fantasies of having a girlfriend
>>80119343>generalizations are bad unless they benefit me!lol
>>80119343This is a pretty obvious fact but women reject it because they don't want to acknowledge what a drain they are
>>80118920why do incels bounce between>As a man I'm not valuableand >we are SO much more valuable than women because girls are stupider while we go to jupiter :)nevermind the fact that most of this board consists of people who will never have any grand achievements in their lives, both male and female, and riding the coattails of people who happen to have the same genitals as you is cringe
>>80119370If we're such a drain then fuck off and stop begging us for dates you dumb faggot.
>>80119407The fact you won't date (i.e. perform your only duty) makes you more of a drain, not less.
I agree but it's also a reality that western civilization has spent the last 200 years catering to women's insecurities, needs and desires.In a natural environment, women are subjugated and worse, abused into becoming breeding servants. But in western civilization, priviledged women get free access to securities mostly provided by men (police services), they are allowed to get an education and a job, they are free to express themselves physically, emotionally and intellectually. They can vote and even exploit their sexuality for money and power over men, and this is actually celebrated by society.And not to sound flippant, but the way western women have reciprocated all of this is by becoming more resentful and hateful of men. I'm not saying men are "allowing" women to be free and happy, but most women fail to understand that this type of civilization where we're treated as equals is fairly new, and it certainly requires the change of women into a new 'societal role' if they want to change the gender dynamics. Yet they seem resentful of this, they want to keep unfair dynamics where they are free and independant but men are still glorified servants with telepathic-levels of empathy. Fuck off.
>>80119391Women have intrinsic value because of their pussy. Men have earned value because they're better at everything else, those things aren't mutually exclusive, fence sitter faggot
>>80119425Humans are a drain on the planet who destroy ecosystems and litter them with goyslop containers. Men's obsession with having kids they aren't even going to help raise is killing our poor Earth.
>>80119350>I get to do this because the EVIL MEN do itSo you rely on men even for your rationalizations and excuses? How droll.Incels are here bitching to fellow men about it, as we understand their plight, and seek to aid them as fellow evil conspirators. Go to crystalcafe or something. You're a strong and independent woman! Go and be free from men and male influence.
>>80119454>BAWWW IM BETTER BECAUSE I HAVE DICK AND BALLSYet neetdom and homelessness is increasingly common with men when they stop suppressing women's job prospects.
>>801184084chan is an international board and you are probably talking to a white man in America. the reality of most countries is having to stay at home except going out with brothers, for fear of being molested by saars and ahmeds.Yes, that includes especially Canada and UK and Ireland.
>>80119462>evil conspiratorsYou mean fedposters? Did I crash your honeypot party?
>>80119471>womens job prospects>women getting into management, HR, and DiversityFor every one woman in the workforce, two men are priced out.
In my experience the boys in my class had lower grades because they were more disruptive on average and didn't care about things like mathematics, literature etc. as much as women. The idea that women cannot be intelligent comes from it not being prioritized as a valuable trait, or even viewed a dangerous one. Much like slaves were forbidden from learning how to read.
>>80119362Generations are good when they depict the truthHere's the following 10 richest women>10. Husband's money after he died>9. Dad's money>8. Dad's money>7. Husband's money>6. Husband's money after he died>5. Divorce>4. Dad's money>3. Husband's money after he died>2. Dad's money>1. Grandfather's money
>>80119511>cherrypicks jobs that are based on having higher levels of empathy and ignores all the other jobs with women in themOh okay. We're doing that now.
>>80119535Both Trump and Elon came from wealthy families.
>>80119528Studying a subject has nothing to do with intelligence. You cannot convince me that women are smart when they choose to get raped ran through and breeded by the worst men. Imagine getting all A's in school but all F's in life.
>>80119528Women almost never were forbidden to read. In fact they're the ones that taught their children how to read. Modern women love to make up stuff in their mind to be victimsAlso literature for women is 99% just rape/cheating fantasy and mathematics are overwhelming dominated by men
>>80119552>Also literature for women is (STATISTIC I MADE UP BECAUSE IM JEALOUS OF FICTIONAL CHARACTERS)
>>80119551Men date fat harpies who mentally and financially rape them just for the possibility of pussy lmao.
>>80119528>gradesSee, that's why you're dumber
>>80119458>humanity is... le bad!Is this really the best you can do
>>80119558>STATISTIC I MADE UP BECAUSE IM JEALOUS OF FICTIONAL CHARACTERSI'm not jealous, it's just pathetic when women say they read more than men and when you look at the shit they read it's romance 117# that has glorified rape or cheating
>>80118894>women are below worthless
>>80119676>chart with multiple genres>ITS ALL RAPE PORN! WOMEN WANT TO BE RAPED!Okay...
>>80119584>you're dumber because you didn't fail Algebra Alright.
>>80119676>women read more fantasy than menThe rest of the list doesn't surprise me, but that one does
>>80119795Modern fantasy is shoveling romance everywhere. They even got a new name, romantasy
>>80118887>But because they have a vagina you broadly dismiss their achievementsYes
>>80118318>More painful sex on average. More risk when it comes to sexual activity, including receiving STDs from men more easily.Wow, chad that doesn't care about you actually doesn't care about you, what a surpriseJust don't be a whore
>>80118318>Women get periods and can (optionally) give birthHoly shit wowwwThis totally nullifies their advantages in all avenues of socializing, dating, schooling, DEI, women are wonderful effect, homelessness stats, suicide statsMaybe I didn't lose a coin flip when I was born
>>80119391Because not incels are the same. I think the other incels are retards. Also, that anon who replied to this comment first is samefagging as me. That, and I'm not saying women are more valuable. They're just inherently more valuable. A man can MAKE UP for and even surpass the fact that women can give birth if he works for it, but a woman is always going to have a place and matter since she can give birth, if she also can do what men do thanks to technology, then it's unfair. We're dealing with an ideal human being, utility wise, then.Either way, why are you concerned with what other incels think? I gave you reasons why I thought women are enviable as a man. Are they untrue? If not, then why worry about those idiots?
>>80118318>only the white and palealright so you're another ugly brown pickme who wants a white guy? got it. in my experience pale white girls are actually better human beings so I'll stick with them thanks, while you keep chasing your Aryan or Kpop fever dream. enjoy cunt