>well actually, I know a guy who is 5'6" and he gets plenty of girls! It's just about personality bro!>statistical averages and trends? What are those?
What statistics are you talking about anon?
>>80118542I love how normies will smugly refute a studywith some random manlet they knew. I'm not even an incel doomerand I know how annoying that fucking is
>>80118572the point is that it's not over just because you're short. Women's stated preferences can be overwritten by charm and charisma, and the fact is that you are not doing all that you can to be more attractive as a partner, and you're copping out with something you cannot change instead of confronting the work you need to do on yourself to improve your appeal.
>>80118542the average height of men on both sides in my family is 5'7, everyone except one schizo guy is married idk what you are talking about
>>80118542>statistical averages and trends? What are those?Those are the tings they bring up only when it serves them.Normies exist to gaslight you into going to work every day for no reason.
>>80118542Im over 6 feet tall.
>>80118542>Weird height talk that heavily implies that the poster is a virgin>Weird units only used in one countryLike clockwork. Do loser virgins just not exist outside of that place?
>>80118818>Normies exist to gaslight you into going to work every day for no reason.Your inability to get a woman, one of the simplest things in the world, is the fault of normies?
>>80118542The statistics show most 5'6 guys have sex.
>>80118542I am 5'7 and I have had 7 gfs since I was 21. I'm not rich but I'm also not ugly and in shape so that helps.Plus having autonomy, like a place of your own you can hang out is a big plus and ofc you need a car that's a given.There are dudes who are 6'2 who can't get laid, it's more than just looks you have to be able to actually speak to women. Everyone who says they can't get laid or can't get a gf doesn't even speak to women IRL so what do you really expect? Put yourself in places where there are women who want to talk.
>>80118607Don't you see how you make multiple fallacies with this line of thinking?1) you assume that the person speaking is some unwashed obese basement dweller who has never tried, instead of a man who has tried yet hasn't succeeded2) even assuming this, you ACKNOWLEDGE that "yes, a conventionally unattractive and short man is unlikely to get a girlfriend" but then you turn around and spout the rhetoric that "EVERYONE who tries succeeds".Your worldview and rhetoric is completely inconsistent with reality
>>80118930Your entire advice boils down to "just be lucky". You implictly assume 4 things.>go to places where there are WOMEN>go to places where there are WOMEN who WANT TO TALK>go to places where there are WOMEN who WANT TO TALK to YOU>go to places where there are WOMEN who WANT TO TALK to YOU and ARE ATTRACTED TO YOUI am 6'5. I am fit and jacked. I have lots of hobbies where i interact with people, women included, and in uni as well. I havent yet met a single woman who wanted to go out with me or didn't have a boyfriend already or wasn't 10+ years older than me.
>>80118969So fuck the 10+ older woman then and stop being picky.
>>80118542This entire board is so attention starved they will take any opportunity to spout off their personal anecdote contrary to any stats or studies.
>I MUST see the negative side in everything>muh reasonable human is trying to help me>I WILL not get any pussy and I WONT enjoy it
>>80118969Then you're either 4/10 or under or have poor social skills and give them the ick in the first 30 seconds.>wasn't 10+ years older than me.Date them. They already have experience so they can offer advice for dating within your age range.
>>80118940>you assumeno i didn't. no matter what you're like you could always be doing something better. There are guys who are your height who are getting all the pussy you could ever want, so it's not your height that is the issue, there is something else going on. I'm not assuming you're a fat smelly neckbeard, but you're not the perfect version of yourself.>you ACKNOWLEDGEI did not acknowledge this. Did you even read my post?Your comment is inconsistent with what I said
>>80118607>can be overwritten by charm and charismaread: money
>>80118969None of that is true at all.I grew up very shy and I didn't do anything with women until I hit 20 and I got my first gf at 21. I met my first gf by literally sitting beside a cute girl on the first day of class and speaking to her. That's when you learn they are literally just people, they need to socialize, they want bfs as well you don't need to be the perfect man to get a cute gf.I've met women at Salsa classes, they encouraged me to go out to social nights with them. I've met women at work, I've met women on campus and my greatest accomplishment in regards to women was starting a conversation with one at a bus stop and getting her number completely out of the blue.With your attitude it's no surprise you're not succeeding. Like anything in life you only get better the more you practice, women don't owe you anything you have just approach it as if you're making friends and then it will culminate into something if it's supposed to. Besides you yourself are saying women do show interest and want you, so just keep trying until you find one that fits your criteria. I still don't get what you're whining about when there are dudes who get literally 0 attention from women all together.
impressive amounts of chudcels in this thread who KNOW EVERYTHING about the female mind yet have never kissed a girl. Sure bro the normies who try to help you are SABOTAGING you because you know better than us
>>80119055>normies >trying to help Normalfags relish in suffering. They secretly love the fact that low tier men struggle with dating and that it is "easy" for them, it elevates their mediocrity into an accomplishment worthy of soapboxing.
>>80119038the "I know a guy" anecdote that I frequently go back to was this 5'4" jewish guy who was my neighbor in my college sophomore dorm. He did not have money. He hustled trying to sell herbalife over the phone from his dorm room, and he was hyping himself up with Tony Robbins speeches every day. He would pose leaning on sports cars that didn't belong to him to look cool. Just a kid who worked on that social energy. He was bringing a girl up to his room every weekend. It was crazy.
>>80119047>Salsa classeslmao
>>80119055>the normies who try to help youThey don't want to help, they want to feel superior
>>80119055Most incels have been rejected several times by females including me. I've also had several female friends that have told me things that made me more blackpilled
>>80119066t. incel who does not work, does not socialize, and has never kissed a woman, and has no concept of human normalcy>>80119088 t. incel who does not work, does not socialize, and has never kissed a woman, and has no concept of human normalcy>>80119115I dont know what this has to do with what I just said. Being a loser does not mean other want to see you stay a loser. This idea that normies secretly hate incels and want them to suffer is retarded and totally alien to me (as a normie)also stop samefagging please
>>80119146I'm not samefagging retard, that was my first post in this thread
>>80118542>gets plenty of girls>nobody wants to stay with him>nobody falls for him over time>b-but he has so much SEXDie
>>80119047Where in my post did i say women show interest? Ive literally never had a woman flirt or show any signals of interest towards me. And i also went to dance classes. The only women there were with their boyfriends/husbands. There were lots of lone men like me. And since we didn't have pairs the instructor offered refunds. Among the worst experiences in my life. No women ever encouraged me to go anywhere with them. As i said, you got lucky to find SINGLE women who. LIKED you. And unlike you ive been trying my entire life, not just after i turned 20, with 0 success.
>>80119047>accomplishment in regards to women was starting a conversation with one at a bus stop and getting her number completely out of the blue.Greentext story anon how did you manage this? How'd you open the convo? Word for word what was said