>>80126317
they see it as standing up against the patriarchy

>>80126317
It's something I've never understood, they seem to think a "strong woman" is all the traits they claim to hate in a man

>>80126329
I don't understand the thought process

She's just being cheeky you actually daft fucking retard.

They have no physical power to oppress others with so they must rely on social dynamics instead. Women would not survive in a stateless world where true strength shines bright.

>>80126346
>same exact cop-out "they didn't mean it" answer
every fucking time, literally every time

>>80126345
>I don't understand the thought process
see yourself as a "slave gender", born into oppression, and every one of your gender tells you your whole life that the other gender is evil and needs to be fought against

>>80126350
>Women would not survive in a stateless world where true strength shines bright.
They did though. What makes you believe that women were abused during our hunter gatherer period? Just because men have the physical capability to harm women, doesn't mean they ever harm anyone.

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>>80126317
Gen Z white women are professionals when it comes to being rude then saying shit like "it's my personality/star sign I'm just a girl!"
I've been lurking crystal cafe lately, the board is flooded with bitching about "pick mes" but this specific archetype they call the "girl's girl", apparently they're not just mean to men they're like this to everyone, just straight up bullies that gave themselves a meme title to cover it up.
Not implying that zoomer men are any better cause we aren't, it's like they spend all their time virtue signaling online then when it's time to interact with the real world they become bullies, now for better or worse "girl's girls" will not even virtue signal mostly, they'll just brag online about being mean and no one gives them any shit for it.

>>80126379
>What makes you believe that women were abused during our hunter gatherer period?
They were rightfully delegated to be the inferior sex every male has to put up with due to biological imperatives.

>>80126393
Superiority is a concept that exists only in philosophy. In nature there is only one constant, fitness. Neither sex can be superior. Women evolved for their roles and so did men.

>>80126317
It's a shit test. The woman hivemind is shit-testing the entire world right now.

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>>80126440
>It's a shit test.
here's the shit response

Fembot here. Women are expected to be passive and submissive, pretty and unintelligent eye candy which can feel degrading. It's why the "girlboss" trope is so popular.

Also, it's a defense mechanism for women who believe they will be taken advantage of if they act submissive. Which is not entirely wrong as women with low self-esteem/passivity are at a higher risk of abuse and femicide.

>>80126393
That was not universal for every ancient culture.

>>80126317
Men take pride in being unpleasant towards women so I don't really care as long as they aren't a Karen manager

>>80126480
>Which is not entirely wrong as women with low self-esteem/passivity are at a higher risk of abuse and femicide.
True, your safer from rape if you go out looking like a slut than if you're in full tradgirl cosplay, rapists have a type and most women figured it out by now.

>>80126480
Be critical of your own premises. Expected by who? Through which means? There's any repercusion for acting otherwise?
I'll argue the opposite, women can get away with this behaviour because society can't stop making excuses for women and treating women like a protected class.
If anything of what you said was true women wouldn't be able to get away with practically anything.
The opposite. There're no standarts for women at all

>>80126521
Notice how no one mentioned clothing and you associate high self-esteem with being a slut?

>>80126593
I'm just saying rapists have a type and femcels typically don't dress half naked

>>80126525
>by who?
Conservatives
>through which means?
Socialization.
>There's any repercussion* for acting otherwise?
Yes. Women who are confident in themselves and not doormats are labelled "unpleasant" or "bitches" very often. And much worse in third world countries.

While I was working, I was polite to everyone I met and tried not to come off as aggressive or cold, but I noticed whenever I asked a customer to step aside so I can help the next person in line I would be treated as cunty even if my tone was not loud or harsh.

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>>80126480
>Women are expected to be passive and submissive, pretty and unintelligent eye candy
I literally don't even understand how people think this when the past 30 years of western culture have been spent empowering women and telling them "YOU DONT NEED NO MAN!!", like genuinely who is expecting you to be like this these days? Not even trying to be condescending I just literally don't understand.

>>80126642
Media is not a reflection of local values in the same way my TV blasting "Gay is okay!" commercials doesn't mean my gay classmate didn't get the shit beaten out of him for kissing other guys.

>>80126456
How horrible it would be if all these short hair feminists got raped to death by poop farmers.
Just tragic, and 100% the fault of white men btw.

>>80126642
NTA but Where I live women are supposed to be passive. I live in a religious, conservative area and women are shamed for being anything besides "submissive". And I live in the US. Where I live I don't know a single person who isn't conservative and almost everyone is religious. I haven't ever seen a single "feminist" movement irl in my area at all. Like ever. And if someone did try that they'd just get laughed off.

>>80126673
>these women annoy me so they should be gangraped
>why are women so mean to us?
Hmm.

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>>80126656
Yeah I suppose that makes sense.

Still though the sentiment is a bit frustrating when you want to be very courteous to people and the culture generally seems to be shifting towards women acting really cold and detached, makes it hard to make friends or form connections when everyone's trying to act nonchalant and like everybody is an option.

>>80126689
Who are you greentexting?

>>80126692
>cold and detached
That's pretty much everyone nowadays thanks to political tribalism. Zoomers hate each other and would rather fap and hang out on discord with random Russians or spread their pussy on OF for starbucks money than talk to the person next door to them.

>>80126673
Trump and Elon are the ones who promised to import pajeets into the US.

>>80126317
Taking pride in anything for a woman is not a good look cuz they don't have cocks. So it doesn't matter if they take pride in being unpleasant, it matters that they took pride at all.

>>80126635
Most robots here complain about conservatives too. Do you think that young men enjoy being blamed for the state of their personal lifes by "fuck you got mine" nepobaby types?
The problem most guys see in this board is that both left and right are at best dismissive if not outright hostile towards young men.
The point is that you suffer no real repercussions other than maybe being called mean words by a sector of the population while being treated as a protected class by the state and the corporate world?
I had to deal with mean people both at work and as a client myself.
I would never rationalize this as proof of a social level conspiracy against me.
Specially being legally privileged in multiple areas and society having a positive bias towards me.

>>80126750
>Specially being legally privileged in multiple areas and society having a positive bias towards me.
Understand this as if I was a woman I would have even less of a reason to schizo connect this to a narrative

>>80126739
I'd take pride in the fact I could shit out a baby without dying.

>>80126750
>Most robots here complain about conservatives too
Lol what? Most of them support conservatives because they want to punish women for not being reliant on them to survive anymore. Your idea of an egalitarian society is not popular here.

I feel like both men and women are at an impasse where some of them may want to help the opposite sex with their problems but are repelled by the hostility of misogyny/misandry, often taking it as a personal attack and turning the other cheek. I really am tired if everything being about competition and who's dominating who instead of cooperation.

>>80126924
Even then you mistake a few people that support ending liberalism as a system all together but also don't support revolutionary humanist socialism with the conservative liberals which are the ones who are political relevant and all the board hates for multiple reasons.

>>80126924
>Most of them support conservatives because they want to punish women for not being reliant on them to survive anymore.
Well if you conflate marriage and family with punishment sure.

>>80127030
For some people it kind of is, i.e asian countries actively make it harder for mothers to move up in the workplace because they are expected to give it up and solely identify as "that kid's mom". Fathers deal with the opposite issue of being worked to death to provide for wife and children they barely see, hence the low birthrate and why japanese zoomers would rather live alone and buy manga than reproduce.

>>80126689
Well I'm not that guy and I didn't say that. All I said is that actions have consequences and if birth rates are not sustainable then business owners WILL find ways to work around it. Bet that.

Some people will obviously live and breathe the schadenfreude as you're forced to live in a brown world and you are most definitely not prepared for that. Me? I honestly just don't give a shit anymore. I believe that all of this is genetic and couldn't have happened any other way, women simply don't want a society, they don't care about it's future other than the things that will directly affect them, it's basically an unwanted gift made and maintained by unwanted men.

>>80126480
>femicide
you're building an argument around something that's committed by an insanely small amount of white men. Only 1.64% of white males ever commit any sort of violent crime, including small fights. Only an extremely small fraction of that 1.64% are murders and even those murders are like 75% male on male.

If you live in a white country, you literally just despise men, there's nothing else to it. Own it, say it, be proud of it, but don't try to peddle these bullshit stats while I'm around because it won't work. You don't need to juggle these dogshit arguments, and keep up with these alternate perspective mental gymnastics anymore, just be for fucking real.

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>>80127130
Maybe those business owners should pay Americans a living wage and stop leeching off of our income to fund their pedophile island adventures?

I can't even blame niggas for burdenmaxxing when the government uses our taxes for the most retarded shit that doesn't benefit us at all.

>>80126317
Geminis have contrarian humor like that where they say bad things and treat them like good things.

>>80126317
that's just people in general you retard, women just like being smug about it

>>80127172
>Maybe those business owners should pay Americans a living wage
...or what?

That's not even me being condescending, that's me being realistic.

>>80127185
Or they're going to get replaced by the Indians themselves.

>>80127202
They seem to be fine with it. A change in leadership means nothing to me as an unwanted male either.

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>>80127161
>brings up race out of nowhere with an unsourced number to scapegoat abuse on other men
>doesn't actually debunk my point that low self-esteem is correlated with a higher likelihood of being abused by an intimate partner
>aggressively tries to assert I hate every male on Earth
How do I even respond

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>>80126355
Right? It's so tiresome. Really there's truth in every "joke". It's called the coward's disclosure. Ha Ha Ha I didn't really mean it.

>>80127268
...and to continue, what I just said doesn't even consider factors like the pareto principle which implies that proper mate selection can definitely act as a safeguard against such abuse, because the vast majority of these crimes are committed by repeat offenders and people with obvious red flags.

I repeat, if you live in a white country and raise feminist talking points then you might as well create a defensive(?) quasi-religious ideology against choking on a fucking peanut, it would make more sense, UNLESS it's meant to serve as a not-so-subtle mask for your misandry, to have the backing of an established ideology when you throw jabs at men, to feel justified when you're punching down. You don't have to do any of that though, punching down without any pretense will make you feel just as good, I promise. It's in your blood.

Fuck this and FUCK YOU, I'm out of here. Feel free to reply, I won't even read it.

>>80126317
WOULD desu
Imagine having sex with her while she emasculates you and insults you, lovingly of course <3

>>80127381
Associating abuse with how someone looks is ironically supporting lookism and misandry lmao. Run away you little retard since you just want a weaker person to yell at instead of engaging in real conversation.

>>80126317
>watch movie
>after 10 minutes go "damn, this sucks dick"
>walk out

Incels chatting about punching down is the funniest shit considering all they ever do is berate women while not having the balls to confront "Chad" for stealing all the women. Almost like they don't have an issue with hypergamy itself and are just mad they aren't at the top instead.

>>80128025
if chad holds no accountability for popping cherries left and right, then stacy does not hold accountability for simps giving away their life savings to see her bleached asshole.

>>80126682
Just say Idaho

>>80128025
Chad does not steal all women. It's women that have a nearly parasocial relationship with Chad and should get real instead

>>80126734
on god skibidi pajeets rizz ohio sigma? fr fr no cap

>>80126336
>They hate men
>They see these "Toxic Traits" as manly
>Masculine is also a synonym of strong
>There is a cultural mindset of man strong woman weak
>They don't want to be weak
>They want to be strong
>They adopt "Masculine traits" as they see them to become "strong"
>They pick up these toxic masculine traits that they hate because they want to be strong
>They reject their "weak femininity" for a "Strong masculinity"
>And they inadvertently become the same type of "toxic masculinity that they hate, but through the eyes of a misandrist woman.

There are strong men and strong women just as there are weak men and weak women. The problem is women who both A) think that masculinity is inherently toxic and B) women who think that in order to be a strong woman, they need to reject their femininity.
These women are the ones who become the same sort of hateful misandrist that we all know and hate.
They're they same odd combination of self-hating woman and spiteful hatred towards men that constantly ruins things for BOTH parties, all because of their own self destructive and hateful ego.

>>80126317
While I hate women, this seems based, and I hope people experience the same with me

>>80128089
No it's somewhere in the south