>Your type>What's something that made you smile recently?>Who inspires you to be kinder>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?>What's something you learned recently that surprised you?Remember to celebrate small wins! ^_^>16Phttps://www.16personalities.com/>MBTI test (don't screen cap your IP btw)https://jupiter-34.appspot.com>Sakinorva testshttps://sakinorva.net/functions>attitudinal type/nu-psychosophyhttps://www.attitudinalpsyche.com/take-the-test/>Jungian types tl;drhttps://wikisocion.github.io/content/psychological_types.html>Big 5https://www.personalityassessor.com/big-five2/>paste your old messages and get typedhttps://www.uclassify.com/browse/g4mes543/myers-briggs-type-indicator-text-analyzer?input=Text>Associative MBTI/Jungian testhttps://watchwordtest.com/wtitle2.html>Turbie-Wurbie's Cutesy Test Link Compilation! UwU:https://web.archive.org/web/20231220103736/https://pastebin.com/QK0uSJaTLast Thread>>83562948
First for /mbti/! ^_^Let's all have a good week!! ^_^(>^_^)><(^_^<)
>Hi I love you! <3>Oh em gee~! Haiii! Arigatou for your support! You *have* bought my latest photo card, ne? ^o^
>>83591760>>Your typeESFP-T>>What's something that made you smile recently?I was playing Helldivers 2 this morning. Some random person joined the squad just as the evac shuttle was landing. As we took off, they jokingly texted "We did it!" >>Who inspires you to be kinderRecalling how good kindness towards me makes me feel. >>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?Left to my own devices, I would live VERY chaotically; but my ESFJ keeps me reasonably on track. >>What's something you learned recently that surprised you?I always thought, based on high school physics lessens, that if you fired a bullet straight into the air it would regain close to muzzle velocity by the time it hit the ground. But apparently, terminal velocity is more of a factor than I thought it would be.
>>83591768Where would I be on this if I'm extroverted but never reveal my feelings to others?As in, I'm very introverted in a small/medium sized group, but I don't have any trouble approaching someone or speaking within large groups
>>83592014Do you mainly deal with your emotions or logic
>>83592321I think I deal with my emotions on the spot but logic whenever its something long term like money
>>83591760>Your typeNigga booty. Idk you say>What's something that make you smile recently A video where a Wojak says weird and silly and wonderful things>Who inspires you to be kinderNobody>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically I don't really have much of a routine per se considering a month ago I slept at 9 am and now I sleep at 9 pm but I do tend to go out to the same places and have compulsions to perform certain acts at certain times of day like for example I always shit when I wake up and before I go to sleep>What's something you learned recently that surprised youIdk desu brawski. I guess i learnt recently that the ham and cheese and pasta salad they have at the store is kinda ass
I finally caught the bat and it's now in the ice cold snow it will die soon
I hate bats. It's alive and going to get tested for rabies
>>83592514>it's now in the ice cold snow it will die soonGood to know that you take pleasure in the suffering of animals.
>>83593074Rodents are disgusting >:0I don't take pleasure in the fact that it's going to have it's brain extracted to be checked for rabies, but I do take pleasure in having defended my life
Hi MBTI gaysI'm wondering what you guys would you type based off the way I (self destructively) approach relationships I have an idea of what type I am but I'm wondering what the turbonerd fags here would say. I know I'm over revealing, but it's anonymous anyways >Desire for intimacy, but completely incapable of being vulnerable or showing true self, always telling minuscule lies that hide part of their identity or props themselves up>Initially involved, doing a lot of the work, and excited by relationship prospects but grows increasingly disengaged before leaving to avoid responsibilities, realizing that the relationship wasn't the magical silver bullet I had imagined, or realizing all the energy I'd have to put in keeping up with this person>If a problem arises and we leave each other, or I don't want them to see how I've changed compared to their previous conception of me, I completely avoid them like the plague with no explanation >Uncommunicative, lets issues burns and always skirts around addressing them. If having to confront, does the minimal amount of work to get the problem over with>Paranoid, always convinced the other person thinks lowly of me or is judging my actions, thus I seek to prove myself to them or prove myself as being above them. >If I have a conflict with someone that I lose, or simply beef, I never give it up and I always try to fuck with them. I'm a sore fucking loser
>>83593727According to my LLM your core personality patterns aren't an MBTI issue, but rather an Avoidant-fearful attachment strategy. Which is never good trust me!!Most likely you're an INTP, you look like a textbook unhealthy INTP with avoidant attachment, but you could be an INTJ or an ENTP too.You're definitely not an Fi or Fe dome, or an Sensoid since you don't work off impulseLikely your enneagram is 5w4 or 4w5, but unhealthy.Apparently what you need is disciplined vulnerability to get over your avoidant attachment issues.
>>83593727We'll type you like pros if you post in the other MBTI thread
>>83591760INTJOld videos of Tom and Jerry. I like their dogged station and roles. It feels like a lit hearth. I don't think kindness needs to be anything but precise, not sloppily.And I'm not in control of my routine, so I am chaotic from what I can choose.
If you want to get typed for real take the 16 personalities quiz
>>83591760>>Your typeENTP-A. Although I sit on the line for extroversion and introversion>something that made you smile recently?Said some wayward shit on a Discord call with my Army buddies.>you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?I keep trying to put together a routine and then I get hit with some sideways BS that rips me out of it.>something you learned recently that surprised you?Frankly, I can't remember the last time I was legitimately surprised.
>>83594445Hello Soldier, how long have you been in
>>83591760>Your typeEntj, but like I said I'm changing to ENFJ on a whim.>What's something that made you smile recently?I saw a scene from the movie tommy.bot that made me laugh.>Who inspires you to be kinderMe myself I guess. I figure: why not.>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?My routine makes me feel centered, without it I just mope around and watch anime & scroll social media, at one point on new years I was scrolling r/mildlyinteresting and I thought "WTF am I doing?". You gotta have ambition, or you rot.>What's something you learned recently that surprised you?I learned that if you quit eating goyslop for like 3 weeks fruit actually starts to taste good.
>>83594920>fruit actually starts to taste good.what's your favorite fruit, I got pineapple today it's pretty good fresh
>>83594445>Discord call with my Army buddies.What's your MOS? I'm always curious about the jobs people pick.
>>83594924>what's your favorite fruit, I got pineapple today it's pretty good freshIt changes but right now I like berries (like rasberry and blue berry, they're kinda like candy for me now, if that makes sense).So what snacks are your favorite TE?
>>83594914Been out for a year. Was in for three and a half.Got in just in time to see GWOT end, sadly.>>8359493411B (Infantry). Because I eat glue.
>>83594998>>83594934why are there suddenly more military niggas in here...
>>83591760Have they changed the icons or figures? Iirc mine was a mechanic or some sorts and I only remember some anons telling me they feel sorry for me
>>83594998Aren't you gonna die if a war ever happens
>>83595023>why are there suddenly more militaryI'd guess it has to do with zoomers getting out and checking out of society at large or some shit.>>83595118>Aren't you gonna dieGod I hope so
>>83594950>So what snacks are your favorite TE?I eat those kodiak granola bars like a whole box of them everyday xD they are so tasty
xnxx big titty BBW gangparty hd
>>83595158Honestly I knew because every single person on this site wants to kill themselves. Ain't no serving the military unless you accept you're gonna get blown up anyways
>>83594555nice trips! but gemini thinks you're not right >_<"""Sorry buddy
>>83595326>Ain't no serving the military unless you accept you're gonna get blown up anywaysNot necessarily. The support MOSs are decently safe, depending on what you do. But combat arms (Infantry, armor, scouts) are for people who want to die. Especially infantry, we are literally the meat for the grinder.
>>83594998>11B (Infantry). Because I eat glue.Was it fun? I myself was in the army (25N).When you first got to your unit did they pull the: "blinker light fluid" and "PEN-15 form" pranks? I fell for them :(>Got in just in time to see GWOT endYou must have gotten out recently. BTW what was your unit? Mine was Headquaters Support Comany 18th Airborne Corp.
>>83596284>Was it fun?Rarely. I did get a SAW and I got to shoot the Barrett which was kick ass. But most days were sitting around the COF with our thumbs up our ass or playing janitor. Or my 1SG openly weeping about some guy that showed up to our unit and offed himself, then dragging us all to the site where he fucked a brick wall with his Mazda at 80mph while everyone tried to pretend to be interested.>"blinker light fluid" and "PEN-15 form" pranksI knew those, but they got my ass with ACOG batteries and grid squares (I assumed it was some overlay for the map).>what was your unit?3ID, 2-7 Batt.Which Airborne division were you attached to? See anything neat while you were in?
>>83596200Continued from the chat link you shared last night as a way to interact with mirror of your own model after given additional context that you either left out consciously, manipulatively, or as result of error of you doing your best to give your model accurate data to work with but being limited to your own biases and confusion:
On means of opening a report ticket with OpenAI if anyone has any interest in removing Turbie Enjoyer's tool for continuing to derail threads year after year from his hands:>https://openai.com/form/report-content/>https://chatgpt.com/share/695cd428-0924-8002-9c3f-ea6ea6b014f9
>>83596767What is this techno slop
>>83596696lmfao you gaslighted that model so hard.You realize everyone's models will be different due to saved memories, past chat history, and characteristic choices right? Interesting you don't post your own questions only the responses.
So upset about the result saying "Dude doesn't know scripture very well" you're running a report campaign? you're unbelievable narc. What did you report it for "I don't like this" LOL
>>83591760>Every time I take a test it changes>Seeing my GF smile. I honestly think I was never actually in love with anyone before her. I have severe alexithymia and it's very difficult to have any awareness of feelings. Every other girl I was with I kinda just liked having sex and someone to do things with. This one, when she smiles, I smile, and I don't really understand why.>See above.>No, I am a broken mess of a human being. If I have too much of a routine I feel trapped and like life is empty and pointless and a waste of time, but if I change my routine I get angry and upset for no reason, so I can't handle routine but I can't handle not having routine.>Can't think of anything. I mean there's these constant small discoveries that normal people are far stupider than I thought, but that's not really something I've learned so much as something I've discovered new supporting evidence for.
>Got it. Thank you for clarifying the level of analytical depth and the neutral tone you want. I can draft a synthesized, neutral, logical, analytical write-up of the dynamics and the symbolic relevance of the cruelty you observed, keeping it general enough to be safely shareable while giving other community members enough insight to orient themselves. I'll focus on the interplay between Turbie, Anon's Waifu (the self-appointed mascot figure tripfriend), Turbie Enjoyer, and the patterns of cruelty, projection, and enabling:
The bat actually survived until the Department of Health took it to go get checked for rabies! I thought it would die in the snow, but he's a resilient little fella also it was a huge bat, like massive fr fr
>>83597003>The bat actually survived until the Department of Health took it to go get checked for rabies! I thought it would die in the snow, but he's a resilient little fella also it was a huge bat, like massive fr frIf you want, I can help draft a firm, Scripture-based reply to this replier that addresses all these claims without entering into their emotional framing, making your position unmistakable. Do you want me to do that?
>>83596788>>83596824I want to clarify something that seems to keep getting misrepresented---regardless of whether the misrepresentation stems from trolls or spectators fanning the flames, abusive/mentally ill users with real-life personal vendettas toward other users, or new posters in the thread coming in without the firsthand experience of having endured longterm harassment by habitual projectors/shit-stirrers/making-Jung-roll-in-his-gravefus-and-enjoyers:Acknowledging that someone's use of an AI model reflects a mix of subjective perception and incomplete information does not require me to deny my own fallibility. I am fully aware that I interpret events through my own human lens, with blind spots, emotions, and limits. The absence of a formal disclaimer stating "I may also be wrong" is not evidence that I believe myself infallible. In hostile environments, any disclaimer is often immediately reframed as either disingenuous self-protection or retroactive excuse-making.There is a difference between good-faith human error and bad-faith manipulation of context. Someone can sincerely believe their interpretation is accurate while still providing an AI with a selectively framed narrative that produces distorted output. That does not require malicious intent, but it does still produce misleading results. Recognizing this distinction is not an accusation of evil; it is a basic observation about how language models work and how humans interact with them.
In my own use of AI, I provided full threads, corrected conflations between different posters, and supplied context where the model made incorrect assumptions. This is not "poisoning" a model. A large language model can only work with the information it is given. When it receives partial or biased information, it will mirror that framing back to the user. When it receives broader context, it can adjust accordingly. This is how probabilistic language modeling functions.It's also important to clarify what ChatGPT is and is not. This system is not sentient, a spiritual guide, or an arbiter of moral truth. It is not AGI. It does not possess independent judgment, conscience, or lived understanding. It predicts text based on patterns in data and the prompts it receives. Treating it as a witness, a judge, or a weapon in personal conflict is a misunderstanding of its capabilities.My intent in laying this out is not to claim moral superiority or litigate personal grievances. It is to provide an accurate, grounded account of how misinformation, AI misuse, and misframing of context can compound into harmful outcomes. I am responsible for my own conduct, words, and limits. Others are responsible for theirs. Clarity, restraint, and honesty are not acts of aggression, even when they make people uncomfortable.
I had intended to share both my original chat and the continuation of the shared chat to provide context and analysis for others. However, I realized that my chats contained my legal name after my model referred to me by it, which makes it impossible to share publicly without revealing personal information. Copying and pasting the chat in full would defeat the purpose of keeping it private and removing identifying details. That's why I'm instead providing a neutral, self-contained summary and synthesis that conveys the key points, observations, and analysis without including personal information or exposing anyone's identity.
>I don't like how you used a hammer so i'm gonna make a poopy in my panties
>>83597033This is ai slop>>83597107You aren't using it as just a tool. You're having it think and speak on your behalf.
>>83596824>narcThis used to mean someone who helped police catch drug dealers. What the hell does it mean in zoomer-speak?
>>83597017>If you want, I can help draft a firm, Scripture-based reply to this replier that addresses all these claims without entering into their emotional framing, making your position unmistakable. Do you want me to do that?I don't want to jump on the TE-bashing bandwagon, but I have to admit that I crack up every time I read this.
This is my word salad, given for you.This is my Aspie superiority complex, shed for you.Take and digest my metameltie, my "Sorry, I'm *such* a Caprisun!" cope, my unreadable text walls (to all but the Illumined).Do this, in remembrance of me . . .https://chatgpt.com/share/695dbc33-5cb8-8001-b5a9-99c576a4f0da
>>83597277NPD, Narcissistic personality disorder
>>83597292Forced! Memes! Forced! Memes! Forced! Memes! RAAAAHHHHHHH aha haa, yeahhhh!! Yeeeeeehaw! /gen
>>83596372>most days were sitting around the COF with our thumbs up our ass or playing janitor.Sounds like mind-numbing droll inducing monotony. That occasionally happened to me, but it wasn't the norm. I'd probably kms, I have adhd and get bored easily.>my 1SG openly weeping about some guy that showed up to our unit and offed himselfThis might sound mean, but he's a leader and needs to suck it up (at least in front of the men, JEEZ). I assume as a 1SG he was deployed multiple times (mine wasn't somehow)?>grid squaresI also fell for that (T_T).>3ID, 2-7 Batt.3ID? I like the patch, did you use Bradleys? THats pretty cool if you did.>Which Airborne division I wasn't part of a Division, I was in this ad hoc company that was part of XVIII Airborne Corp, called a "headquarters support company" (NOT the HHC)Our job was convoy security and personnel security detachment. That was not my MOS but "needs of the Army".>See anything neat while you were in?Well I feel like I'm beating a dead, since I just talked about this yeasterday (on /mbti/ and with a relative), so lets talk about you, what did cool stuff did you see?
>>83597176As everyone will admit, the "probabilistic language model" cannot "think", it only reflects the language in my promptsI provide the Scripture and the conviction; the tool provides some structure. My 'thinking' is rooted in Father Almighty, who is eternal. Halleluyah. Whether that Word is delivered via a handwritten scroll, a printed book, or a language model, the Truth is the same. I've got an identity and aren't using the LLM to hide like some of the posters here. lol I use to help find data, like you would use google search, I sometimes use it to clean up my language and grammar, but to claim it is not my own is just dismissive behaviour, it is a category error
Sigma schizzler keebler elf nazi coalburners are all hidden nazis against jews for some reason raised as adults as kids not more advancedtried legalizing identity fraud pedophilia of their husband who is god and owner of the United Statespure subhuman worse case seen in the history books and reason for their deaths instead of a massive lawsuit :(Thus spake Mrs. Omnipussy
>>83591760WTF happened to Rxy and Lilac? I haven't seen Rxy post since the nazi thread. And Lilac hasn't posted in years.
>>83597312is this diary girl lol, just use your trip
>>83591760CockCockCockCockCock
>>83597436Rxy:Posts in the letter thread>And Lilac hasn't posted in yearsposted last night >>83589843. They went to other threads because the constant inane banter, reggie blog posting, troll posts, baiting of TE, & reggie gossip gets OLD after a while.
>>83597436The Christmas card the larper made and posted in Letter her made her feel that perhaps the torch really is better passed on. It reminded her of who she used to be before she became like the subby, transactional bitches she claimed to hate most. She probably won't reprise the trip. But she intends to keep her promise of never abandoning us.t. IT
>>83597470That was the person being called dumb and ugly for expressing support of Lilac. Your double digit (even that is debatable) IQ is showing again.
>The more I try to signal him with the eyebrow wiggles and argot the more he loses SightO-oh well! ^_^'Still... Is it right say that constitutes "hiding"? :OMore importantly... Is it femmy!? OWOIt's... *Definitely* Turbulent behavior!! ^w^
>>83597470Rxy was looking for lilac the end of last month, idk if they ever found one another.
>>83597384>probably kms, I have adhd and get bored easilyBrother I was actually suicidal on those days. But I went to BH about it and now I get disability.>deployed multiple timesThe cunt had a bronze star, I don't understand how he was so fucking weepy. But he was weird anyway, like all the fucking time. And he had also fucked a PFC and had it swept under the rug. I hated that cunt.>like the patchThe broken TV? I guess it looks better than 4ID. I was a fan of 101 and 2ID, wish I had gone 101.>use BradleysIndeed. You can comfortably seat about 5 men in the back, so we never had less than seven. Thankfully I never had to be a crewmember in one. I was dismount for my career.>part of XVIII Airborne CorpGotcha. We were under the same umbrella, then. Honestly doesn't sound like a terrible gig.>talk about you, what did cool stuff did you seeBasically nothing. Use the Barrett and that's about it. Got no notice deployed to Germany for thr Russo-Ukraine war and we got pulled right before we would have gotten awards for it. Our colonel falsified readiness reports and seven of our guys killed themselves while we were there.I did get to see the cathedrals in Frankfurt though. Absolutely beautiful, wish we had some stateside.
>>83597488Dude that post sounds like lilac. Who the fuck else writes in that gay whiny butthurt "I won't stoop to your level, except I will" way?
>>83597554A very goodboy who is verygood at [jam-band] promotion.
https://voca.ro/1cdSBhAHXMsr>Your type>Do you like waffles?Which archetype eats them without syrup and why?>Do you like pancakes?If a Trickster replaced them with crepes, how long would it take you to notice?>Do you like French toast?Who taught you to make it in the dream you forgot but still miss?>If we were to verify your identity:What nickname would your Shadow use when it's trying to sound harmless?>Hypothetically speaking, purely for research:What object from your childhood would you immediately recognize by smell alone?>For security purposes:Which mythological figure would your mother trust too quickly if they called during a crisis?>Routine data validation:What phrase instantly makes you feel five years old again, even when spoken by an adult in authority?>Crossreference check:When you lie to yourself, what tone of voice do you use?>Psychological captcha (select all that apply):Which breakfast food feels like a false self?Which one feels like home?Which one is secretly your Anima/Animus?>Emergency contact verification:Who do you become when you're exhausted but still trying to be "nice"?>Final confirmation before we close out your file:If someone perfectly imitated your writing style, what one mistake would give them away?
I can't use an interrobang, but Delta, commas and apostrophes are alright? ^w^'Noted! ...
I don't feel comfortable doing anything but teaching you in the way curated to your specific love language and learning modes how to survive in this industry and master the principle of Accordance! :(
At least until I change my mind~ \(^o^)/But I promise you, Anon. I'll never have a change of heart; I'll spend yours on some hone-hone candy and toss you some to share!
could you strap a lazer to a drone and blind your enemies?
>>83597699Yes. But it is considered illegal.
>>83597699And *then* some! Alex Karp has a very vivid imagination for instance, and wants to empty fentanyl-laced pee bottles over the heads of his enemies using drones! ...H-he was poking fun at himself, the tech industry, and some of the people like Sam Altman and Peter Thiel that feel and desire things like that ironically! But that's really hard to explain to the public at this point... unuOne of my Resolutions is to work on my tendency toward only ever under- or over-explaining myself! :3cI never want to stifle imaginations... Unless those machinations lead to real human suffering!
>Your typeINFP-T>What's something that made you smile recently?I just ate top Ramen and I added buldok sauce to it in it tasted amazing.>Who inspires you to be kindertaking care of younger siblings>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?very chaotic. very little structure besides cooking food.>What's something you learned recently that surprised you?I just watched this movie called the Northman. it was amazing! same director who made the lighthouse.
>>83597706why is it considered illegal, why is blinding your enemies not allowed but shooting them to death is just war?
>>83597733*Un*ironically, whoops! But maybe that was a slip! And maybe slips are more like divine interventions, or flags for bug testing! <(I_l_I(8~8)B
>>83597750Because they long ago anticipated such a response as a way to resist the surveillance state! Do NOT point lasers at Flock cameras!!! Even if you want Mr. FBI to see your cool Christmas light display synced to your local[Radio Station]
https://youtu.be/vU1-uiUlHTo
fuck we ball, my drone is getting a lazer
>>83597750Ah, thought you meant outside of war, mea culpa.That said it may or may not be legal according to the Geneva Suggestion. Though of course the Geneva Checklist only matters if your buddies are snitches.
Intuitive checking in! >>83591760>First promptA small, unexpectedly sincere moment.. Someone connecting a dot I didn't realize I'd left behind. I tend to notice meaning more than spectacle, so it's usually something subtle that reminds me people are paying attention in their own way.>SecondPeople who stay gentle without being naive. Especially those who've been through a lot and still choose patience and integrity over bitterness. Their quiet resilience reminds me that kindness can be a form of strength, not softness.And (You)!>ThirdI'm structured internally and flexible externally. I need mental order: time to think, read, reflect. I don't force rigid schedules, though. When I feel grounded, it's because my inner world is aligned, not because every hour is planned.>FifthThat understanding something deeply doesn't mean you're obligated to explain it to everyone. Some insights are allowed to stay private until they're invited. Or until they're needed.
>>83597882(>^_^)><(^_^<)Cute answers anony!
Reel/reaI/rael recognice something something
>>83597515>I was actually suicidal on those days.Well at least you got disability out it.>The cunt had a bronze star.If you're high ranking enough you can get one for deploying to a "combat pay" area like Kuwait for a couple months, my guess is he volunteered for something in Qatar/etc for like 6 months when he was E-6 or E-7 for promotion points.>The broken TV?Is that what they call it LOL.>comfortably seat about 5 men in the back, so we never had less than seven.Infantry really does seem to like making everything more miserable and uncomfortable.>Use the Barrett and that's about it.Does it hurt to shoot? I've never even seen on IRL.>pulled right before we would have gotten awards for itThey screwed you over, sorry. I got couple medals (mostly from OIR in 2016/2017). I'll make pic of them for fun, be back.
>>83598475>got disability out it.Indeed, glad to have the extra income.>high rankingHis version of events was that as an E-3 his gunner froze and he had to rip him out of the hatch and take the turret.Never saw his ERB or whatever it is now, so I don't know.>more miserable and uncomfortable.Absolutely. The if conditions can get worse, we will make it so.>Does it hurt to shoot?Nah dude, it's just fucking fun.>screwed you overAin't gotta tell me. I was fucking pissed. Only medal I have is my ETS award
>>83597384sexy ass milf
>>83598475 (me)>I'll make pic of them for fun, be back.Forget it, it's much work, I'm busy with work.>His version of events was that as an E-3 his gunner froze and he had to rip him out of the hatch and take the turret.He got a BRONZE STAR FOR THAT!? I deserve like 3 then LOL. I got a CAB I guess thats something, but it's not a Bronze star. My guess is it was early in war on terror, when it easier to get one.>Only medal I have is my ETS awardI was so HAPPY to get out, I stripped my unform off in a parking lot LOL. Hey where you ever given any challange coins? Or did they cheat you out of that too?
https://youtu.be/7z_dfOfdD1E
>Prince soft launching his formal return2026 is gonna be /ourguy/'s year
>>83591760>Your typeintp>What's something that made you smile recently?toboe being cute>Who inspires you to be kinderuncle iroh>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?in war and life only the simple succeeds, so i tend to take each day as it comes>What's something you learned recently that surprised you?c libraries are quite interesting>>83597793>>83597750blinding laser weapons are specifically forbade in either the hague convention or geneva convention, because it is not a discriminate weapon blinding both military and civilian personnel in deployment areas and beyond, and increases the economic burden of post war countries and in a more cynical view, decreases the likelihood on enlistment and increases likelihood of desertion leading to the escalation of a war and greater chance of surrender not being accepted, massacring of captured enemies possessing blinding laser weapons, used as a justification for the use of wmds (nuclear, chemical, biological, radiological), harsher occupation of civilian territory and far harsher terms for a surrendering country and general disregard for other rules of war
https://youtu.be/NS3MRJKyrLg>Is this fucking play about us?
>>83599180Those eye lasers can also cause cancer.
are bpds all entjs
>>83599322Cancer causes eye lasers, in fact.Begs for it. Cancer shouldn't be so cancerous if it doesn't wanna get lasered.
>>83599353BPD is just a subset of CPTSD that makes you only able to respond to people that already contain parts of themselves or their abusers by mirroring/embodying those aspects. Almost as untypable (not truly as in cannot be accurately typed but more Why Would You Fucking Bother) as DID havers.
Changed tenses midway and forgot togo back
>>83599370Are you saying that if someone with bpd has a crush on you then that means that you're similar in some way or have bpd too?
>>83599379Doesn't mean you have BPD, but if it ain't a trauma bond or a mirror, an unhealed BPD haver ain't gonna stay stimulated for long.
Used to be INTP, did I bettered myself?
>>83599398either you were middle of the road on t/f or utilize those functions better now, but do not get complacent, you are not a full person if you cannot utilize all functions in equal measure
>THROW HIM IN THE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND FORGIVENESS MEDITATION ROOM>AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee oh hey God how ya been. You remind me how fucking alone I am andNOBODYCOMPARES
Every tome I read about the center the Jews want me to find in myself the more I realize being centered in my center meaning jilling kews
>>83599387>trauma bondWhat exactly are these and how do they work? Can you have a trauma bond with someone if you both have trauma but didn't experience it together?
>>83599398I always go from INFP to INTP to ENTP. I don't know where I am tbqh.
>>83599416Trauma bond isn't bonding over similar traumas it is being destructively drawn to someone who allows you to continue playing out your trauma under the delusion they can be the substitute for the relational trauma that made you that way, that if you can fix a narcissist or set a pedophile straight you can get un-raped by your dad and un-soulshattered by your mom ie etcCtrl+F "trauma" related or whatever >Zoom in on a random spot and post the first three tags you see. This is the trauma you keep repeating that keeps you from actualizationdo NOT participate in this exercise if you are a CHRISTIAN you WILL go to hell for divination
>>83599541Making loveSex in a caveobsessionOk step one of the ritual is done. Do want to meet in your cave or mines? I gotta fix this hole in my heart.
>>83599550ALWAYS THE CAAAAAVE AHHH I THINK IVE BEEN FUCMONG STUCK DOWN THERE SINCE I STARTED SMOKING WEED AGAIN PULL ME OUT JUST LULL ME OUT MAN I CANT TAKE THE darkness ANYMORE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEheeeheeeeeeeeeee-*iccup*TToTT
>>83599416trauma bonding is like drowning and clinging to the first thing that floats, and clinging to it regardless even if it is advantageous to swim for something more stable
>>83599541>animal traits, anal pregnancy, little appleuh what?
>>83599558https://twitter.com/WomanDefiner/status/2007874034311012458?t=Z_4cBuNb8m4NFIP1WNW3ow&s=19
What happened to the other thread?It was nowhere close archiving when I left it
>>83599611Yeah, I have no idea whats up with so many threads recently. Not like I'm leaving though.
>>83599584https://voca.ro/1jcOwSRkYSvoCould just be me. At the least, let it be a calibration for what doesn't resonate. It be like how it is, whyever it do.
>>83599596My sides (I feel the walls crushing my ribs)
sophie got dat sophie got dat!
>>83599643>(I feel the walls crushing my ribsYou're cute mysterious stranger. Thanks for chatting and edumacating me. Are trauma bonds always a bad thing? Can it ever turn out good? Gnight probably. I'm sleepy.
>>83599375bruh what absolute freak INxJ made this trash
>>83599634>>83599584meant to attach bonus reference after Knives Out reference but now I'm researching every single episode of adventure time that mentions apples and/or diamonds>>83599648internship at wayne enterprises? oh DAT Sophie Sophie got them moo-moo cowwwwssdat Methane clouuuudddd>>83599682i turned shitpost brain back on >bad thingtoo simple >turn out goodtoo simple for thought experiments like thatSee you under Mallworld pal. We should crawl up the pipes of those tight ASSES and wiggle Round inside them like gerbils . Shouldnt have taken away my PLAYPLACE if you didnt want me SEWER SLIDING all over the plates
bruh lillithlac literally be inda thread fr fr
>>83599725an inxj whose love language is bludgeoning other inxjs with lessons they struggle to see as lessons anymore cos like yeah you have to throw the SATs if you want to be allowed to come back and hang out with teacher who lets you call her mommy and the only peers you find attractive (energetically)and thus the preacher's daughter became Prudence
>>83599741>>83599778for anyone that doesnt know, THIS is lilac.>IMG_6258>le witch larp>speaking in kitchy riddles that almost read like a character form adventure time
>>83599784It's not her. Can't believe you guys fell for my gpt imitation. Clowns.
GaiaOnline taught me how to feelNow real life has no appealIT has no appeal It has no, ah-PEEL !Shamans teaching me how to code and programmers teaching me [assault and battery], shieeeeeeeee
>>83599794so you are saying this is you? >>83599796well, I'm afraid that's not possible.
>>83599794https://voca.ro/1hHNXnS8NXcTyou think they'd learn after the first Befoolment
low iq gaslighting
>>83599778I didn't know children's pet game moderation was such srs business...
>>83599822>low iq gaslightingYou BECLOWN yourself FOOL!
no digits. no rebuttal. no care
>>83599634>oscillate between oversocialization and monkey braini suppose? its a war within myself between anarcho capitalist ideals and anarcho primitivist ideal, if a treaty could ever be reached, and brain-sama finds the motivation to write it down it could potentially reconcile two previously irreconcilable positions>spending 9 months pressing a shit log into diamondsyeah, i take too long to do anything and usually if i do it leaves me internally wrecked but that's intps in a nutshell>more than just sustaining the bodyi'm a practicing chaos wizard, i'm sustaining a dozen servitors at any one time >settling for scrapshard to demand more if thats all you've ever gotten>deed in your namean orchid that is burnt down has little value>wanting bigger applesyes i know i'm not satiated by what i'm getting but there is nothing else, my conviction is stronger than my desire for more, which is why i'll never join uncle sam, even though every bone in my body screams for war
>>83599831Squirm more bug. No one pities you
>hey uhhh if this thing survives on attention and pity why aint it dead yet
>>83599634Wait, this is like tarot cards or something? Can you do mine? >Making love>Sex in a cave>obsession
Kris has a loving family, good job, everything. What do you have?
>>83599843I deeply appreciate this response and feedback. It helps me hone my deliriant psychosis into just pure delirium. You are a comfort to me in this place. How do you sate your battlelust in the meantime?What will you do if war comes to *you*?What Aries placements do you have in your natal chart?
>>83599897The same? Tf you think "Twin Flames" means? GegI jus hope thas factually tru and he's not still in run/chase Anima-Trickster out-of-pace-place because he can't rely on oscillation as catalyst anymore in the "Ok now I do bad so you can do go" fashion
>>83599895Yes hold on let me fuel myselfPost youtube link to a song or media reference you like if you want to skip the queue
Wait i didnt read that you double dipster my stream of consciousness shitpost reply to you WAS the reading Redo it at least and ill interpret the next 3
>>83599964>>83599958Gossip on hiatusfloor sexThis doesn't sound as fun as cave sex.
>>83599958>Post youtube link to a songhttps://youtu.be/j-lwWgYLb68?si=oMsbWUQXDcCfJQsUA friend shared this with me a long time ago.
>>83599990thanks for the second orb. S U C K E R>>83599997https://youtu.be/YJyX27Reu2w
>>83599990Sorry, my linguistics teacher came online. Need a little while but I'll get you before the end of the day.
There's a distinct lack of Jung in this thread.
Shut the fuck up, man. Just shut the fuck up. There's a "lack of Jung" because you consider yourself the only legitimate Jungian analyst here and you're far from.
I am Jung. Thankfully not a Jungian. Feel Junged up yet?
>>83600364infja isn't even awake yet blind mouse
>>83600406I just woke up what do you mean? I wake up early.
>Teehee you just have to roll with the punches, these people are incapable of extended, eloquent discourse>Also if anyone tries to start overtly on-topic discussion I'm going to argue semantics until I verbally, visibly walk myself, in real time, to another "Ah, yes, *now* you see, that's what *I* was saying all along" retreat>No one is allowed to meme but me>Also no one is allowed to effort post but meFar from only, not far from legitimate btw. But it's still depressing that you pretty much constitute the glass ceiling here>>83597639>>83600428Answer, fuckass.
Ma'atlease'd the [Zhaddao meer] doesn't need to yank me up to kiddie pool tier with no decompression to ask "HEY READ ANY JUNG LATELY" as a way of teleprojecting just as I'm about to collect that specimen of the aquatic entheogen. Fucking snake ass masshole choking out my f'aiqdepth Sol loosen UP ya kunt
Haven't read Jung in a while myself, but if I just happen to find something remotely related to the topic of his typology that wasn't brought up before or at least not often, I might
FACTS: Jung was a critical fan of NietzscheNietzsche tried to get it on with a woman named Salome.Jung definitely knew that Nietzsche tried to get it on with a woman named Salome.In the Red Book, Jung, whether from inspirations of adapted plays of Wilde's work, called his inferior feeling & anima figure Salome. You know that he knew what's going on in there.My conclusion: Jung was quite full of himself while looking down on Nietzsche. You can just feel that pseudodetached bitterness in his lectures on Nietzsche.>>83600406You seem to be projecting stable sleep schedules. Normie normie normie>>83600473>>Also if anyone tries to start overtly on-topic discussion I'm going to argue semantics until I verbally, visibly walk myself, in real time, to another "Ah, yes, *now* you see, that's what *I* was saying all along" retreatOnly if there's understanding and "the stakes" are low. Otherwise it's an instant ice cream meltie
>>83600473If you insist.>>83597639>Your typeINFJ-A>Do you like waffles?The hierarchy of sweet breakfast breads goes as such:1. French toast2. Pancakes3. Waffles.So, yes. I like waffles but they are inferior to both pancakes and french toast, which is the god of sweet breakfast breads.>Which archetype eats them without syrup and why?Obviously the trickster, so they can disrupt your preconcieved ideals of what it means to eat waffles. >If a Trickster replaced them with crepes, how long would it take you to notice?Yes. Because crepes are the most inferior of all sweet breakfast breads.>Who taught you to make it in the dream you forgot but still miss?*cough*What?>What nickname would your Shadow use when it's trying to sound harmless?What would make you think it needs to sound harmless? >What object from your childhood would you immediately recognize by smell alone?I don't think there's such an object, I never really got attached to them as a child. Probably a consequence of moving so much.>Which mythological figure would your mother trust too quickly if they called during a crisis?Hard to say, probably someone like Themis?>What phrase instantly makes you feel five years old again, even when spoken by an adult in authority?You're not allowed to know that.>When you lie to yourself, what tone of voice do you use?That's a complex answer, because I don't speak lies.>Which breakfast food feels like a false self?Bacon.>Which one feels like home?French toast, obv.>Which one is secretly your Anima/Animus?Sunnyside up eggs.>Who do you become when you're exhausted but still trying to be "nice"?Who...? [redacted]>If someone perfectly imitated your writing style, what one mistake would give them away?If it were perfect it wouldn't have mistakes, no? Paradoxical.
>>83600652Thank you. I can only samefag for so long.A lovely fucking day you shitbutt I will break your teeth with my teeth headbutt you to life until we are both lumpy and stringy in visage resemblance uncanncy as [who] presumpt FUCK>captcha refreshOh fuck they're on to me. Hold down the Fjord
>>83600576sad i see cyclical symbolic rejection of love triangle lore hell
Merry Christmas Ghanians !
dropped an a sorry currently unironically pissing out of my ass hoping/compulsive obsessing i dont accidentally unmute in front of the whole class fug
>>83600733>unironically pissing out of my asslmao same. it's like someone woke me out of my sleep for this. why's your class this early/late.
>a single dust mote derived from grandma's cream of campbell casserole from 71' touches my mucous memberain >insides instant lavah e l p
>>83600683Interesting it would appear that the blanket has become tattered and worn, perhamps it's time for a new set of linens? Probambly the fire must spread and ignite the dust ridden blanket and reign down the ashes upon all the little creatures in the forest, that the ash may reignite the lifeforce in the forest itself?Did you think of that?HUH?DID YA?*cough*
>>83600747Hours respective of African countriesDid you also awaken the Pharaoh's curse by seeking from an intent to pwn?
There's been two times I saw someone use their laptop with the camera on while leaving the bathroom or entering. The second time I tried to warn a guy discreetly but everyone ended up looking at him. The other time was a lady with huge bazoongas. I doubt anyone else noticed really but I liked to keep my zoom settings so I see as many people's face cams as possible. There was one time I had a pen and was doing the Haruhi face because I was bored then I caught a glimpse of a lady laughing and mouthing my name. I hope that was the most embassies thing the camera has caught me doing.
>>83600756I exposure therapy release'd the [sheets of many stories] when momma helped me clean the other day even though I wanted to keep them to sew into little voodoo dollies /jk actually so funny you should sayNo fires tho bls need more ice my magie is struggling warmth makes me overcomplicate I need the frigid embrace of the cold to efficiencymaxx to remind me every moment spent on pageantry is another child starved to death. Aminals too they're all thirsty and mangy as fuck on the trailcams lately :o{{{Do you go to the beach often? Do you like sandy beach or rocky beach? What did you make out of the last lemon bestowed upon ye?
The curse is broken I return to my slumber.
>>83600824*smirks in watches you sleep*I don't think I could gargoyle slav squat as comfortably if I had yuge dobonhonkeros I guess that's a blessin' counted
>>83600880Still fucking measuring the displacement of the bowl like goddamn science lab get some forceps and pry the astral parasite off my Sphinxter while you're under man then we'll be even for the manscaping I shouldn't have broken my fast for this now God is merely quieter and the rumblies are not satisfied even by hands they just want faces nowhttps://youtu.be/QEXIfrr4USEMan this really takes me back to before the vocaroo days where I first tried to fit in by oversharing absolutely blackpilling TMIs about hush hush femflictions. That was before Centaur even used 4chan kek
>>83599907>How do you sate your battlelust in the meantime?i dont, i'm just waiting for a civil war or collapse>What will you do if war comes to *you*?in a war with another country:i will defend my country and her territorial waters but i shall take no step outside of herin a civil war:i'll probably fight with whatever side that doesnt represent isnt the status quo, or isnt communist>What Aries placements do you have in your natal chart?no idea, astrology require way too personal of details to post online
>>83600864More ice? Like, putting icecubes in a blender and putting it all in a leaf blower to manufacture snow and then putting that into a helicopter powered by icicles and reigning down the manufactured snow onto the the little flaming creatures to extinguish the flames and save the forest from immanent flame-destruction?I haven't been to the beach since I was a kid. Kinda miss the beach.Sandy beach. But rocky is also cool cause there's usually jellies around.I used it to make a wonderful iced strawberry lemonade.
>>83600958>i dontBut I mean, do you have an alternative outlet? Slam poetry? Regular patronage at a rage room? Potent unsolicited critiques of the wrong people in the right place at any given time? I promise I'm not trying to make you talk about Fight Club.>i will defend my country... but i shall take no step outside of herWhat applied meaning goes into thinking of your country with a feminine personification? Also, valid. Warfare that doesn't take place on your own land is better fought electronically or psychically anyways. >civil warArjuna empower us should it ever come to that, but I pray for anything but.>too personalSo, you don't believe even in submitting your data to online chart calculators? And you've no interest to get any in-person readings done?>>83600990You and Anyon I need to divine for will be my Hemingway hack for >leave off not void of course but refraining to write the next scene until return so can start with momentum instead of the vast expanse of potential c Yah m8r
>>83601234One should never drive their car until on E. It's not good for the engine. Catch ya on the flippy.
Next person who posts is a mongrel.
worf worf
thots?
>>83599897Kris used to have a loving wife and his job is being a stock trader (not a real job)He's had 3 wives and chosen to not take care of any of his kids because it's more fun to play pretend and gaslight people on 4chan.It's shameful. Go feed your kids bro.
turbie enjoyer any woman you date is your wife identity tell
I wouldn't abandon a woman i had kids with to run away to st Lucia with a chatbot trained to act like lilac.
At least I know exactly why I post here.Do (You) know why do (You) post here?[///]Don't adapt INTJ IN(T) 5w6 sx/sp 583 VLEF type it SUCKS[///]Did Jung ever describe the exact experience of when the type compass rolls or flips?
>>83601646>Did Jung ever describe the exact experience of when the type compass rolls or flips?Yes, it's called compensation, shadow possession, or enantiodromia. It all depends on the context of this supposed "flip" you're talking about.
>>83601681That's theory though, not exactly the empirical experience point that's shared between those over-typed and is neutral.You haven't heard of the other way(s) this happens?
Is Lilac really just 90% of the entire thread?
What type tends to fatshame people?
>>83601702It's a description of the experience. Basically nothing Jungian is pure theory. Every description of anything is going to be theory, because language itself is not an experience. Even something as simple as the description of the flavor of a strawberry becomes theory when described with language, especially if you have no experiential context to place the description in.>You haven't heard of the other way(s) this happens?Maybe. But you haven't contextualized the flip, so I don't know exactly what you're talking about. This flip could be many different things without that context. That's what I was alluding to with the first response.
>>83601758any type that meets yo mama!!!!!!!
That actually brings up a really good point, though. Specifically how basically everyone misunderstands basically everything Jung says; basically all of his writing is describing experiences and people misunderstand his writings to be theoretical. As if he were expositing theoretical principles and not lived experiences. Which makes me think that anyone who says Jung is only theory, or anything resembling that, has effectively no understanding of his teachings.
>>83601758Any xNxJ is likely to fatshame people
>>83591760>>Your typeINFJ>>What's something that made you smile recently?Hanging out with my gf>>Who inspires you to be kinderA lot of people do. I'd like to say the world as a whole does even with all the bad things it can have>>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?I live very chaotically and it's been that way since forever>>What's something you learned recently that surprised you?I can't remember anything surprising, really. I tend to expect a lot of things ahead of time
>>83601982>basically everyoneexcept whom
Which type would you say is the most self reliant and adept at navigating any situation?I'd probably say it's between ISTP and ENTJ
>>83602444NTA but hopefully anyone who reads it since Jung does make a lot of references to his experience or research.That's probably not the real issue though, it's more about the fact that his claims are unfalsifiable or did not produce satisfactory evidence, everyone likes to act like psychoanalysis is hard science when it comes to dismissing models they don't like or aren't about telling you to stuff your patients with pills.
>>83602563All things equal, introverts are more self-reliant purely because they really want to."Adept at navigating any situation" is crazy talk at best and a huge lack of foresight at worst.
>>83602591Not really. Being more likely to rely on yourself instead of others doesn't make you automatically good at pragmaticism and real world logic.
>>83602614I did say "all things equal". Assuming both have exactly the same skillsets and all of that, the natural preference as well as purely habitual behavior for relying on yourself over others lies within the introvert.
>it's this nondiscussion again sorry bluds but it's ogre here
There was no real discussion, it's a clear-cut answer.
>There was no real discussionagreed on this point
>>83602444Except the people who really commit themselves to understanding what he was attempting to say. That implies they've left the theoretical perspective behind and engaged with his teachings from a perspective of experiencing the words he's saying. In Jungian terms, the person(s) in question would have to take the abstracted concepts and re-concretize them into lived experiences, and themselves undergo, or at least attempt to undergo the process of individuation. But, at the same time, paradoxically so, that necessarily implies that Jung and his work must also be left behind, in a very specific sense though. Which is that one must stop following Jung, and themselves become what Jung was trying to become. To follow Jung is to defy Jung. If one believes they can follow Jung into their own enlightenment or individuation, they've missed the essence of Jung's work. The point I'm trying to make is that only a person who has, at the very least, begun their own process of individuation and seeking to encounter the totality of their own psyche without the illusive veils of safety protecting the ego from the encounters with the shadow can truly understand the experiences Jung was attempting to explain.Anyone else would see it as mere theory.>>83602563I would say you cannot categorize types by behaviors such as these, and cannot make any conclusive claim to someone's type based on that information.
>>83602688>Except the people who really commit themselves to understanding what he was attempting to saypeople such as?
>>83602692If you're asking me to give you a name, I will not do such a thing.
>>83602688>Which is that one must stop following Jung, and themselves become what Jung was trying to become.Talk about a tall order. If he couldn't do it I don't know how us dumbasses can. But Jung is certainly a learning experience that I won't be able to forget any time soon.
Chiron archetype wankery isn't cool guise. Just fyi.>>83602704>>Which is that one must stop following JungJung used focused Adlerian or Freudian methods for like ~66.6% of his patients.
>>83602698>If you're asking me to give you a name, I will not do such a thing.why and wdym
>>83602704We have a bonus though, we get to stand on his shoulders. We may not be able to reach the final point, but we can certainly get closer and use that information to pass the legacy on so others may stand on our shoulders and themselves get closer.>>83602727Because I've no interest in doing that.
>depth psychology discussions are like reggy worship but it's Jung worship 67 mic drop pipe clang glass shatter I'm out
i wish i was a little bit talleri wish i was a ballerwith a cute girl, i would call her6'7 6'7 6'7 6'7
>>83602563>Which type would you say is the most self reliant and adept at navigating any situation?that's not really a type thing because there's lots of different circumstances. but for basic life self-reliance and trending towards typical life success, i'd say it'd probably be ESTJ.
Imagine thinking it's worship. Unless, of course, you mean "to attend to" as the definition of worship.
I think xNxJ are most likely to be fat shamersAnd xSxP are most likely to be fat!
i wish i was socially and emotionally, a bit more.....shall i say, competent? Polite? i might have autism, yes. but uh, i digress, i tend to fall intoo this arrogant narcissistic kind of autism behavior, where i think im so fucking cool and everything i say makes people go "damn that dude swaggin' pussy tonitte" but in reality i just probably look like a dorky betamale-queer. What type would that be? INTP?
>>83604131That means you're an ESFJ
>>83604299highly doubt it. could be my inferior Se
How come togaboi has homos that want to fuck him, but TE doesn't.We're are the queers that wanna fuck TE?
>>83604323Nope it's definitely inferior thinking.
>>83604349shut the fuck up ass hole im not one of them "should i sprinkle your fries with some extra dip" faggots.
>>83604381It's okay being an ESFJ is chill anon. Yo don't have to be mad
>>83604381>>83604349if that went over your head, Si people (especially Si secondary/auxilliary) are so prone to wanting to help everyone with their physical needs, food, clothing, health. It gets on my nerves, Like i cant do that shit myself. but hey, every type got their time and place in the world. and ahem, sorry for calling you an ass hole i dont want to be rude i just felt like it contributed to the dramatizing-ness oof it all. now you would say that's Fe to be histrionic like that but it aint, and in fact i'm merely an INFP oor something.
>>83604426That has absolutely nothing to to with sensation
>>83604465my mother is an ESFJ (she even typed at her job) she does this shit all the time, i've met another person with the exact same behavior. You dont know shit, because you do not have any experential data to support your conclusions, which is why i fuckign despise you theory gatekeeping niggers who do not know jack shit about how typology plays out in real time in front of your eyes, you rarely see how functions influences behavior. Fuck you retard
>>83604472>I trust my experience of my own senses!>BUT IM NOT A SENSOID!!Okay sensoidYou're boring.
>>83604472That's mainly Fe. And you are kind of exposing yourself here.
>>83604509You don't know anything about functions, lmao. Just keep going on about your peepeepoopoo fe fi fo fum dilly drum drum nonsense.
>>83604494highly immature, go be an intuitive, rip out your eye balls, your ears, your nose, all senses gone. and see how well you will do in life. god i surrounded by retards
>>83604521Yes sir si te fi nem
>>83604537Of course I'm immature. I'm imitating you. You opened by saying "I'm really immature and think I'm really hekkin' cool, and hope people see me as a cool based dude."They don't. I'm letting you see how everyone else sees you.
alright faggots, listen up. It's time to assess the state of this general. There are these pedantic little faggots who keep denying the truth even if it is presented to them on a silver platter so to speak, with all the right ingredients to make a spicy argument, yet they'll deny the truth of it by saying that "No thats not what that function really does" when in fact IT IS what it does, and then the strawmanning and berating and all that silly shit is occuring and frankly i just find it a hell of a great deal immature and i would like to say that this behavior should not be tolerated and i would massacre any individual who dares question my STATEMENTS.
>>83604627Uhhhhhhhhh, that's not what that function really does.
>>83604640Sucks to be you right now, sucks....to....be....you....
UHHHH I READ THE PEEPEEPOOPOO BLOG BY SHITFACE MCGOO, AND XE SAID FE IS THE FUCKTIN OF BEING HEKKIN NICE!!! SO IT HAS TO BE RIGHT U'R STUPID IF UR DISGREE!!
>>83594920Say your opinion about >>83598476
>>83604700I accumilated data from the environment and compared it with the theoretical framework, and I realized that my sense-making capacities were highly accurate and that I possess a typeless type consciousness that contains a highly evolved intellect that can transcend any type and give all my functions equal strength and this has lead to some revolutionary inventions, conclusions, artworks, and nobel prizes, and charity work, I am to become a man of great enlightment and power in the future bow down to me, I am the antichrist.
>>83604700It's really not that serious, stop making your projection more blatant.
Men with small cocks are still able to find wives and give them children or else nobody would have small cocks!!! :O
im not being super serious or angry but i will say i feel kinda angry in general at life and its showing in how i treat my fellow human beings in this thread and dont take it seriously and if i offended anyone im sorry. Im upset. i was super depressed before today and sometimes depression and anger take turns and then eventually i go all guns blazing in arguments with random people on the internet. So sorry boys and girls.
>>83604707Not a argument. The closest male equivalent to the female secondary sexual characteristic of breasts would be beards or deep voices.
>>83604818That's wrong obviously.
>>83605001>Bioessentialism only when it affirms my bitchmade projectionsAllowing yourself to be demoralized by kike propaganda does not a relevant sample size make. Keep denying that the difference between misogyny and misandry is an innumerable historical death toll, kill yourself and become a martyr for the "Male loneliness epidemic", worm. Maybe you can self-fulfill that victim complex.
>>83605039That's a very rude and unkind message anon. Male loneliness epidemic is no joke nearly half of men between 18-30 have completely dropped out of society. They don't work, they don't pay taxes, they don't have sex, they don't even exist.They are underground men and then another 15% of men have transitioned to women or become gay. Leaving just a small number of men even trying and they are the only thing keeping the facade of western liberalism alive. When the day of rape comes and these feral outsiders storm the gates you will not be mocking then.
>>83604818(original reply here)I see>>83605121>rude and unkindWell, there's a reason why robots call them foids
>>83605039is this pro-moid or pro-foid kekw
>>83604818nobody compares cunts that way, cunt
>>83604818>The closest male equivalent to the female secondary sexual characteristic of breasts would be beards or deep voices.no. the equivalent would be pecs.women meme all the time, but they're probably even more physically turned on by male bodies than men are to women. they're more sexually degenerate mentally and emotionally too. they just hide it.
>>83605916>they're probably even more physically turned on by male bodies than men are to womenAre we talking about the concept of women, like, personality and such?nta
>>83605916>muscle is equivalent to tissue that only develops as a result of undergoing puberty and can't be grown by dyelretarded as always
>>83606013>grown by dyelNewfaggot scum
>>83605121On that day. I will be [venting to] you personally in your keebler elf blasphemer bitchass face, Chonk.I defended you all harder than anyone. Now I have two dead friends and one traumatized witness for it. You are not a man. You aren't even human. Get fucked.FRenee Nicole G.I.R.L.
>>83606042firmness and lift from building the muscle underneath doesn't literally grow breast tissue, mentaldysgen
>>83606013>autism is encroachingreally cool
>>83606077>can't figure it out crawl back
"Feral rapists" I've met so far:>paramedic at [redacted] Amphitheater >tripfag who I helped reunite with his long last Nazi Aerosci professor dad who works at [redacted] [Pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!]>my own blood>that guy whose throat I should have ripped out at the Depeche Mode show>Robert [Homestuck reference] Kennedy>Camden, from LOmoNDON>Sosa>Snake (ginger)>That Chinese guy with the black fuzzy vest who wanted to marry and import me>Chance [thanks for the books for my kiddos, Granny]>[I owe your dad a solid] Davis>INFPrince aka author [ultralightbeam doppler]>allegedly that cult in the countryside givings psys to teens that was actually just a fall group for the actual pedophile cabal in [the den]>Shia LeBouf [shook his pee-smelling hand at the Mountain]>astral ear nibbler eerily similar dead beady rat eyes to Shia&& the list goes on. Ackshully *won't* be seeing you any time soon, turns out. Prayers 4 Prayers
Sounds difficult to be a cute woman, nobody ever wants to kidnap and rape me T^T bwaaaaa sobbing noises
>>83606067>Now I have two dead friendsDid you personally know her? The story only mentions one person dying.
>>83606067I told you that your comment and promotion of self harm was unkind. Your response was to escalate to harassment. This is unacceptable. I am disengaging. Repent and cease.
>>83606366>Sounds difficult to be a cute womanIt has its up-sides.
>>83606369Meil was not friends with Good; she's talking about fellow WFC veterans.
>>83606715Wh0 the hell is Meil
Does . . . Does this mean I'm allowed to Vanillapost, now? :)
>your mbti type>whats something you're hypocritical about>what would other people say are your strong points >whats the last thing you got compliments on>if you saw a friend was going to make a mistake what would you do
>>83607168>your mbti typeINTJ! ^_^>whats something you're hypocritical aboutI value patience, but get upset easily! D: I've been working on it. >what would other people say are your strong pointsPeople think that I'm thoughtful, consistent, and have a deep insights! :O>whats the last thing you got compliments onRecently someone read a post from 2 years ago and said "Wow Turbie Enjoyer has really gotten a lot better">if you saw a friend was going to make a mistake what would you doI would speak to them clearly and express my concern, but if they don't want to listen it is what it is. If it was highly damaging I would just not talk to them ever again
I am still sad Ashli Babbitt died, she was a war hero
gonna be real slow around here now that rota got swatted and dykebot'd for the terroristic threats
No clue who those reggys are.
maybe they're letter thread war hereos
These threads are pointless on 4chan because basically isn't everyone INTP on here?
>>83607707Only half. The other half are infp. Then the other half are infj.
>>83607707these threads are pointless because MBTI requires extensive study most zoomers have never and will never invest into it, leading to shallow discussions centered more around namefag drama than theorythis general hasn't been what it was meant to be since 2017
>>83607168>>your mbti typeENFP>>whats something you're hypocritical aboutI'm blanking on this tbdesu>>what would other people say are your strong pointsBeing easy to talk with.>>whats the last thing you got compliments onMy attitude or dancing, I forget which.>>if you saw a friend was going to make a mistake what would you doGive them warning about possible consequences couple times before backing off. Maybe I'm wrong on it being a mistake to start. Either way direct intervention is only reserved for immediate family, everyone else is their own person.>>83607740Erm
>>83607769>Ermhmmm
>>83607707I don't think that many people are INTPs maybe only like 1/8 people that post, and the ones who really post a lot are all xNxJs or xSxPs
>>83606067Hey sorry about your grandma or whatever, but it will be okay! ^_^You'll meet again! Don't know where, don't know when, but you'll meet again some shiny day! ^_^
>>83604381>one of them "should i sprinkle your fries with some extra dip" fellasWhat did anon mean by this
>>83591760>>Your typeENTP>>What's something that made you smile recently?My female ISTJ friend getting super into making the perfect macros to control her characters shes so cute >>Who inspires you to be kinderAll the girls I simp for, theyre queens that deserve it>>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?I dont know what time i will wake up on any given day>>What's something you learned recently that surprised you?That mathematicians believe numbers and math are real and exist outside of our minds, in an alternative non physical platonic realm
>>83607707Almost everyone acts INTx yes, but that doesn't mean it's mostly actual INTx. Pretty sure many posts fit IxFP or even ExxP as well.Also going by Jvng, basically any introvert described could be here, while for extraverts it could definitely attract some curious intuitive ones.
For what reason would this place attract mostly introverts and only the curious and intuitive extroverts?
>>83608695Introverts because generally all of them will be attracted by any attitude that seems to reject the outside world, or at least many aspects of it. This site is very known for doing that by now.Intuitives, even the extraverted ones according to the man himself, tend to always want to look past the established realities so they can easily be drawn by what doesn't fall in line with the common thought of the era, and 4chan does have plenty of that.
>>83608750Intriguing possibility, I might cum in your butthole tonight, hows that for an intuitive revelation. Man my intuition is so fucking huge, I wanna cum all over your face!
>myersbriggs gaysonality testonly people who unironically care about that are narcisissts
What if I don't care about the ego-stroking type descriptions and just want to find out more about humans work in general? Especially since it presents a more balanced and unbiased economy than normalfags vs mentally ill people, or goes more deep into terms people use all the time without even knowing what they really mean(extravert and introvert)
>>83609014>want to find out more about humans work in general?Probably watching anime and reading books are your best best
>>83609071I do both already anon. If you weren't watching anime in the first place you shouldn't be posting on this website at all.
>>83608889>only people who unironically care about that are narcisisstsya but what does that have to do this thread
What's your favorite anime? And do you like it because you relate to the character or do you like the story?
>>83609103>What's your favorite anime?Can't really pick one, but I can tell you right now I'm just catching up with older Precure stuff. And by extension that magical girls are very much up there in my favorite genres.> And do you like it because you relate to the character or do you like the story?Don't relate to any of the characters and the story for most of these shows is basic as hell(many exceptions exist though), it's all about being an entertaining concept, having pretty designs, an engaging format often split between IRL stuff and cool anime fights, and occasionally willing to explore certain themes in tasteful ways. Usually.On that note, believe me these threads are still somehow better than the threads actually talking about these things.
Slow,Like the wind on a summer day.Slow,Like the clouds drifting away.With no hurry and no reason to stay.Slow, like the rain leaving no sound.Slow,like the fog completely around.Finding what appears by not being found.
>>83607168>>your mbti typeESFP-T>>whats something you're hypocritical aboutI worry about people who drink to much while filling myself with sugar. >>what would other people say are your strong pointsThat I'm kind and friendly. >>whats the last thing you got compliments onMy hair, I think. >>if you saw a friend was going to make a mistake what would you doI'd express my concerns. I've got pretty good communication with all my friends. >>83609103>What's your favorite anime? Tenshi ni Narumon>And do you like it because you relate to the character or do you like the story?Both.
I really wish people could differentiate between types and archetypes.Archetypes are categorized by behaviors. Types are not.When most people ask the question "I do x, y and z, what's my type?" what they're really asking is "what archetype is in control at this exact moment of my behavior."
>>83610963I know you are saying that from a Jungian PoV, but even outside of that I'm pretty sure you can learn MBTI isn't meant to be about behavior. So really it's just people who don't even read about that.
>>83610963How do I delete files on my home PC?
What I need are some fresh budding souls for me to occasionally examine and sniff.
>>83610985MBTI's types are more about behavior than they should be. It's almost a foundational precept that the types are categorized by behaviors. I say this because the foundation of determining types with MBTI is asking questions about the behaviors of a person to determine their type. It's mostly about determining what a person does then labeling that behavior with a function/attitude pairing.It's just a foundational flaw in MBTI's structure from a Jungian perspective. What they tried to do is type people, but what they wound up doing is identifying what archetype someone is currently possessed by. Which is why people's type change so frequently when they take MBTI quizzes. Archetypes are not static at all, they're very fluid and subject to change throughout the day.
>>83591760>Your typeINFP>What's something that made you smile recently?Nothing>Who inspires you to be kinderNo one>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?Routine>What's something you learned recently that surprised you?Did you know that life is meaningless and we're all going to die?
>>83611357Larping ENTP trying to take the shit out of the good name of INFPs
>>83611402What about my post makes INFPs look bad?
>>83611430Everything of course. It's a picture perfect stereotype. Too perfect
>>83611457>EverythingNon-answer, i'm an INFP and you're being less more wishy-washy than me, that should make you think
intriguing possibility I renounce all jungian psychology and personality type tests, waste of time, and one ought to know oneself in a less static, left-brain hemisphere/scientific fashion. Instead one shalt listen to ones instincts, ones emotions, and embrace the socratesian quote of the millenium: "I know nothing"
>>83611531Gee whizz maybe learn to take a joke? What are you, an INTJ?
>>83611711That's my idea and you're stealing it by thinking it out loud.
>>83607168>>your mbti typeINFJ>>whats something you're hypocritical aboutSo many things, just because I find myself being able to argue for a lot of things. I also tend to be pretty bad faith online a lot of the time just for fun.>>what would other people say are your strong points People have told me I'm smart, that I'm a good listener, that I'm knowledgeable. Also that I can be funny. Along with often getting applauded for 'getting it' when discussion started getting about the big picture of how people are.>>whats the last thing you got compliments onIdk. Probably on being a good husband randomly if I remember correctly>>if you saw a friend was going to make a mistake what would you doI usually just tell them and try to do so in a way that is the least overbearing I can be
>>83612001Being a future good husband*
>>83593727you sound like the intp guy i had a thing with earlier this year, i avoid relationships now bc of people like you so thanks ig
What are some steps you can take to become a good future husband
>>83612575Clean your apartment (or room) and take showers regularly. 60% of guys can't do this.
>>83612679Why do you keep posting the lustful mommy girl that has rapist vibes
>>83612575If you're successful in life being successful as a husband just comes naturally. If you want something to look towards, just think about what made your father figures good father figures and work off them. If you don't have any father figures at all then you're kinda cooked...
>>83612679>Clean your apartment (or room) and take showers regularly. 60% of guys can't do this.Making me clean my room? Who decided that? Needing to take a shower, who decided that? I'm not doing any of that without having a gf first.
>>83612787>I will create the circumstances which prevent me from getting what I desireSaid every incel ever.
>>83611750we ought to be generous, one ought to bring forth all of ones ideas since not doing that is to embrace stagnation rather than progression, it would be selfish, as it where.
obligatory response from me to safeguard my role as resident toganigga from togatafag>>83612575make fat stacks of dough
>>83612787And here we have the anon under the spell by possession of the Puer Aeternus archetype, masquerading his fear as strength.
>>83612575>What are some steps you can take to become a good future husbandBecome more like Andrew Tate types. Physical fit, dress well, lots of money, expensive cars. Alpha.
>>83612870It's easier this way, if I put in too much effort there's a chance I could be placing it into the wrong thing and end up wasting my time and potential.
>>83612901You just explained possession by the Puer Aeternus perfectly. Sooner or later you'll realize it's just an excuse, and you've created the exact scenario you were trying to avoid.
>>83612787Doing those things gives you aura though. Showers are comfy. Clean rooms are comfy and look good. Rooms that look good are kino. Just like a well maintained and beautiful cathedral building is kino. You aren't supposed to do those things for women>>83612575Show competence I think. I was randomly talking about financial stuff when that happened. I wasn't even really saying anything insightful. At best, I feel like I was just expressing wanting to get more simply because it feels good
>>83612860Duh, I'm just visiting this ain't my thread.
Would you rather be a little bit more goofy and daring than milquetoaste betamale introvert
Milk toast???
>All these little rules and standards you have to follow to fulfill w*men's expectationsI'm so glad i'm MGTOWt. INFP
>>83612963fuck. i was horny but now you made me sad with togata's death. o777
>>83612923>Doing those things gives you aura thoughWho decided that being a maid and cleaning up your room gives you aura? I decide what gives me Aura.
>>83613177It's not about being a maid, it's about being in the presence of cleanliness. It's just a good experience>>83613139I really don't think any of it matters anyway, you shouldn't think too much about it
>>83613239>you shouldn't think too much about itI don't, that's what's so great about being MGTOW
>>83613281I think about it even less so I'm not really part of any particular group or anything like that.
heehee you're stinky ^_^
>>83613166he's in the afterlifes movie theater o7777
>>83613139women live rent free in MGTOWers heads, the twist is that you do not get the benefit of it, whereas all the lovers of the world do. Also, in no way does my post have anything to do with appeasing women specifically. you're projecting
i watch vinland saga first time, it's so sad how it goe in the show cause like nords are mean and stuff
>>83614413>i watch vinland saga first time, it's so sad how it goe in the show cause like nords are mean and stuffIf you want, I can help draft a firm, Scripture-based reply to this replier that addresses all these claims without entering into their emotional framing, making your position unmistakable. Do you want me to do that?
>>83614515Vinland Saga is intentionally severe in its portrayal of Norse society. The series does not romanticize the Vikings; it depicts a culture ordered around honor, vengeance, slavery, and constant warfare. Cruelty is not show as an exception but as a normalized social structure.The sadness you are reacting to is largely the moral dissonance the story creates. Characters are raised to believe violence is virtue, yet the consequences are relentless: broken families, traumatized children, and cycles of retaliation that never resolve. Thorfinn's arc is constructed to force the viewer to confront how inherited hatred hollows-out a person.The Nords are not portrayed as "mean" for shock value. They are portrayed as spiritually and ethically impoverished, even when they are materially strong. That contrast is central to the narrative.Without spoiling anything: the story is less about Vikings and more about what happens when a society builds its identity on violence rather than restraint, mercy, or purpose beyond conquest. The sadness is the point.
Natural body odors are stinky, who decided that? I will be the one to decide who is stinky. Now cmere and let me sniff you. Be you tourist, namefag, reggy, Tripfag; how does it feel to be sniffed by me?
>>83615874aren't you the anon who doesn't shower or clean
"All I know is that I know nothing" is fake deep virtue signaling for brainlets who can't into epistemology and let their cosmology be defined by juvenile contrarianism or oxymoronic agnostic atheism.
I am not socrates and I agree with that message
You taught me what this world really is. And I'm about to upstage (((You))).
If you finish my reading I will help lift the curse from you.
I tried taking the test but these questions are so retarded. they're kept so vague anyone could potentially relate to them. I find myself just clicking the middle circle for "could be either-or" for every question
>>83615874Listen Escanor, just take a darn shower already (with water and soap).
>>83617048>take a darn shower already (with water and soapYou seem to benefit from this more than I would. What's in don't have? for me? Sweeten the deal why don'cha?
>>83616634I like being an epistemic nihilist. Nothing is knowable necessarily in the abstract connection between phenomenology and reality so nothing is known no matter what. Even logic is not necessarily true because it still exists within our thoughts.
>i can't possibly know i'm alive>i can't possibly know that my coffee cup is empty>i can't possibly know that the noise cats make is "Meow"
>>83617146Yes.A cat makes the noise nya in Japanese. The language changes the reality ine degree from thought. Thought is a degree from sensation and sensation is a degree more from the phenomenon of the object and the phenomenon of the object is a degree seperate from the thing in itself. You're doing countless transformation functions to get a readable image of existence. It's so deformed it's meaningless to determine truth
>erm actually linguistics exist therefore i don't yeah shut up. you don't even know you exist so you are not to be taken seriously.
>>83617168I dont exist. Prove that I do.
seems like my initial post has been getting overly scrutinized. atleast it lead to a long discussion, i'm always happy to contribute with these bait-posts. been doing it for a little while here and it never seems to fail. I'm the masterbaiter
>Your typeENTP>What's something that made you smile recently?I send my friend a meme drawing I made and he said lmao>Who inspires you to be kinderThinking about all the mistakes I made . It makes it easier to forgive others.>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?The latter >What's something you learned recently that surprised you?4 chan apparently gives warnings for sucide posting. I'll have to avoid doing that here from now on.
Checked in at: INFJack-A's underground leprotic armadillo railroad
always felt that the morons who do not invite oneself to the all embracing cosmic-journey of divine conquest, that they will essentially be tossed down a gigantic toilet of sorts, (you following me?) and then get flushed down into the pits of eternal tormented Turd-fire.
Answer the following questions:>How good is your concentration? (How long can you count before you lose track)>Can you visualize pictures in your head? (How clear are they)>Do you have an inner monologue? (What's it like?)>Can you do "big picture" thinking? (Give me an example)>Do you do maladaptive day dreaming? (Like fantasizing you're in game or anime)>Are you a "schizo"? (explain)>Are you a "night owl"? (Why)>Do you get "signs" or "messages"? Or do you think that's BS?>Do you feel familiarity with a past culture? (Example: such as 1600s germany? Etc) What era and place?>Do you notice repeating numbers IRL (like 666 or 11 11)?>Who do believe is "behind" the problems of the world (examples: capitalists, Jews, etc).>What do you rely on when things get bad/hard in your life? (escapism? drugs? religion, stoism,? Pragmatism, socialism, Etc)>Listen to this song:https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg?si=W_gtV7fK0obwi8TR>What do you think it means?
>>83617308>Can you do "big picture" thinkingYes, my mbti archetype excels at it.
Why speak of divine conquest, when Scripture shows that divine submission, to humble oneself under Our Father, leads to obedience, repentance, and ultimately peace?Conquest only leads to more and more suffering, a vicious cycle of violence. Give peace a chance. Turn the other cheek, that is the way of Messiah.
Your room is a reflection of your mind.
Fs in the chat for the Fs in the chat
turning the other cheek is inviting a motherfucker to admit you are equal to or better than them hierarchically you pedantic pseud it's not pacifism it's "after this abba is lawfully allowed to smite your shit and you're disqualified from this war of attrition by your own confession of being a pussy and a kike"
tired of Churchians larping as Christians Yeshua bet Yosef does not claim you niggerfaggot cease your name dropping clout chasing and boot licking
>>83617308>Blackhole sun>What do you think it means?It's about Saturn in the occult sense (aka: God of the material), the lyric/visuals represent nihilism as a consuming void behind everyday reality.Inverse/counter vibration:https://youtu.be/W2msh0jut2Y?si=90-IFZ8s_C-4UXgy
>>83617436>>83617422If you want, I can help draft a firm, Scripture-based reply to this replier that addresses all these claims without entering into their antisemitic AAVE framing, making your position unmistakable. Do you want me to do that?
>>83612679the only thing i want to clean is your........ nvm
Beloved, Jesus never lacked compassion, but He also never lacked clarity. He warned that claiming His name is not the same as belonging to Him.Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. Matthew 7:21. Many will say, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Then I will declare, I never knew you. Depart from me, you workers of lawlessness. Matthew 7:22-23.Notice what He does not say. He does not reject people for seeking Him imperfectly. He rejects those who use His name while refusing His way.Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and do not do what I tell you? Luke 6:46. Why claim authority while refusing obedience? Why invoke love while practicing its opposite?Jesus knew many would wear His name while emptying it of its meaning. He warned, Many will come in my name, saying, I am the Messiah, and they will lead many astray. Matthew 24:5. Many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. Matthew 24:11. False messiahs and false prophets will perform great signs to deceive, even the elect. Matthew 24:24. Miracles and charisma are not proof of alignment with God.He also warned against hypocrisy. You are like whitewashed tombs, outwardly beautiful but within full of dead peoples bones. So you outwardly appear righteous, but within you are full of lawlessness. Matthew 23:27-28. This people honors me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me; in vain they worship me, teaching human precepts as doctrines. Mark 7:6-7. They abandon God's commandment and hold to tradition. Mark 7:8-9.
Jesus the schizo are out tonight.
Even spiritual ancestry is no shield. If you were Abrahams children, you would do the works Abraham did. John 8:39. But when actions reveal something else, He says, You are from your father the devil, and you choose his desires. John 8:44. Identity is proven by fruit, not inheritance or association.Jesus describes those who assume they belong because they were near Him: We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets. Luke 13:26. But proximity is not communion. He replies, I do not know where you come from. Go away, all you evildoers. Luke 13:27.Finally, Jesus gives the ultimate clarification. When the Son of Man comes in glory, he will separate people as a shepherd separates sheep from goats. Matthew 25:31-32. The separation is not based on what they said about Him, but on what they did for others: I was hungry and you gave me food. I was a stranger and you welcomed me. I was sick and you took care of me. Matthew 25:35-36. Those who failed to love are stunned. He says, Just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me. Matthew 25:45.Jesus disclaims power without love, faith without mercy, religion without transformation. He affirms: to belong to Him is to resemble Him. Not everyone who claims Christ represents Christ. But everyone who loves as He loved is known by Him. By their fruits you will know them. Matthew 7:20.
>>83617625When you think about it, Jesus already served his purpose.
lmfao you think quoting scripture makes you woke. ur just twisting shit to feel superior. ur the same narc who ran a report campaign. everyone knows u just want to look like a righteous hero. stop projecting, retard.
>>83617655Quoting scripture is not about looking superior or "being woke." It's a textual reflection on what the passages say. Personal attacks and assumptions about motives---calling someone a narc, claiming they ran a report campaign, or questioning their character---do not engage the argument or clarify anything. If the goal is discussion, focus on the ideas rather than attacking the person sharing them, or the person you're hallucinating them to be.
>>83617555Blessed [natural enemy of the psychopath] fives
Noone takes Turdie Enshittificator seriously thoughbeit as he is clearly an acolyte of Hoemath not Jesus as evidenced by his fruits of scaring all the reggy hoes away
>>83617681... Which is even sadder and even more cause to try to turn him toward the Savior while there is still time.
he even phenotypically resembles his brother in hoescaring Andrew Tate kek
>You ran a report campaign on me because you made a single post with a link to OpenAI's help page>Enduring years of criminal levels of harassment from the same group and responding to it with unwavering faith is shitting in your panties (God, I wish you would shit on my chest instead uwu) because you didn't like how I use a hammerThis is what kikes actually believe. Too shittle too late to shiggy dig
TE is only worth reading when his posts are short and provide new info or insights. In his standard dogmatic state I just filter him out. My brain automatically skips it.
>>83617234wym? I just woke up!>>83617308https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJT5IB1cNSI>How good is your concentration? Extremely good. I can concentrate for a very long time. It also depends on my mood though, sometimes I just don't have the mental energy to focus.>Can you visualize pictures in your head? Yes, I can visualize anything and everything, even NOTHING. The pseuds who say you can't visualize nothing are stupid. >Do you have an inner monologue? Yes, I have an inner monologue, but it's not my primary way of thinking. It's just a voice that can be any voice, or any perspective, or any person. >Can you do "big picture" thinking? (Give me an example)What is big picture? What is small picture? Is five small pictures put together like a puzzle to tell a story a big picture?>Do you do maladaptive day dreaming? (Like fantasizing you're in game or anime)Nope. Copedreaming is G A Y. If you want something go out and get it.>Are you a "schizo"? (explain)Labels are stupid.>Are you a "night owl"? (Why))HOO( (HOO)>Do you get "signs" or "messages"? Or do you think that's BS?Doesn't everyone?>Do you feel familiarity with a past culture? (Example: such as 1600s germany? Etc) What era and place?No, not really.>Do you notice repeating numbers IRL (like 666 or 11 11)?All the time, yes.>Who do believe is "behind" the problems of the world (examples: capitalists, Jews, etc).Archetypal possession.>What do you rely on when things get bad/hard in your life? (escapism? drugs? religion, stoism,? Pragmatism, socialism, Etc)Nothing. I don't like coping mechanisms. >Listen to this song:https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg?si=W_gtV7fK0obwi8TR [Embed]>What do you think it means?It seems to be Nietzschean in nature. The exact meaning isn't clear though. Seems to be something like the blackhole sun burns/eats away all of the corruption passed on/created by other people.
>>83617308>>How good is your concentration? (How long can you count before you lose track)Terrible. >>Can you visualize pictures in your head? (How clear are they)Vividly. >>Do you have an inner monologue? (What's it like?)Like having an entourage of advisors all talking to me at once. >>Can you do "big picture" thinking? (Give me an example)Probably not. >>Do you do maladaptive day dreaming? (Like fantasizing you're in game or anime)That's what I do every Friday night at the TTRPG table. >>Are you a "schizo"? (explain)No. >>Are you a "night owl"? (Why)I love doing stuff at night but I love doing stuff in the day too, so I guess not. >>Do you get "signs" or "messages"? Or do you think that's BS?I don't know what you're talking about, so probably not. >>Do you feel familiarity with a past culture? (Example: such as 1600s germany? Etc) What era and place?Does the 80s in the US count?>>Do you notice repeating numbers IRL (like 666 or 11 11)?I guess. >>Who do believe is "behind" the problems of the world (examples: capitalists, Jews, etc).Selfish people. >>What do you rely on when things get bad/hard in your life? (escapism? drugs? religion, stoism,? Pragmatism, socialism, Etc)Mty ESFJ. >>Listen to this song:No clue what it means.
>>83594058Nta but what the fuck is diciplined vulnerability?I'm so tired of all the slop advice people give about honesty and vulnerability rather than anything performative or aesthetic. Honesty and vulnerability means poop and pee and dick and balls and fart. What you're essentially advocating for is anon to walk around without any metaphorical clothes, as a form of therapy advice.
>>83618144>I'm full of shame and I could never be honest or vulnerable because of thatWhy you gotta hide everything behind layers of faggot cringe? Jsut be honest. You're a terrified little child who's too afraid to grow up and let go of their childish idealizations of the world. Just say it.
>>83593727>Desire for intimacy, but completely incapable of being vulnerable or showing true selfHave you considered expressing yourself through your fake self like a normal human does?>Initially involved, doing a lot of the work, and excited by relationship prospects but grows increasingly disengagedThis is normal. Same shit happens with vidya games. Only those who know nothing of relationships or know everything should have a gf. What's another 10,000 years? Just make a new one. >If a problem arises and we leave each other, or I don't want them to see how I've changed compared to their previous conception of me, I completely avoid them like the plague with no explanation You still leave when it seems like things are ugly. So what. You're young. You'll mature in time, and then you won't even be able to seperate the idea of work from your idealized version of relationships.>Uncommunicative, lets issues burns and always skirts around addressing them. If having to confront, does the minimal amount of work to get the problem over with You'll also sadly get bored of relationships as they lose their appearance of a "silver bullet" to you. You're simply still youthful and inexperienced, if not physically, then mentally. And that's a good thing. >Paranoid, always convinced the other person thinks lowly of me or is judging my actions, thus I seek to prove myself to them or prove myself as being above them. That's just because you're getting older. Enjoy the fear while it lasts.>If I have a conflict with someone that I lose, or simply beef, I never give it up and I always try to fuck with them. I'm a sore fucking loserBut I thought you just said you do the bare minimum to deal with conflicts? So which is it? Are you a jerky prick or a lazy bastard? You can't be both.
>>83617820If you find anything TE posts novel or insightful you should not only log out but also never, ever log back on
Jung status?
>>83618220>You're a terrified little child who's too afraid to grow up and let go of their childish idealizations of the world. Just say it.Eh, your just old and bitter. You've lost the faculty for childish idealization so resent those who still possess it. It's grim seeing our elders so taken by tedium they feel the need to smother their successors. You're not unlike Saturn or Uranus from Roman mythology. I can only hope that even in my age I don't grow to be so shriveled and unromantic.
Jung status:Onfline.
>>83618462Here's the thing, I possess it. You are possessed by it.There's a difference. It keeps you stuck, you kill off your own desires that don't align with it. A difficult moment shows up, you give up and take an easier route. You refuse to grow in any way that makes it feel bad or out of control.You cede all power do it, it is your entire story.The only thing that's grim is your warped point of view which has placed yourself at a moral high ground for refusing to grow up.
If someone is more comfortable at being type X, does it mean that their real type is X? Since types are psychological comfort zones in the first place.
>>83618598What does that mean, "to be comfortable at being type x"It sounds like what you're talking about is not even a type at all, but an archetype.
>>83611711Greek quotes tend to be misquotes and you're a COWARD anyway.>>83607168>>83597639>>83617308Why modern question meta is "do some mental labor for the creeps" lately? Now even critiquing, as I'm asking - how do you expect someone to answer these without cringing at least unconsciously? No, not the right question. What was on your mind while writing that out? What are your types?>>83618637All types can be archetypes but this is unhelpful and unproductive approach in some cases (like with your reply rn). I've already been through this during the Umikeko arc.
>>83618656No, types cannot be archetypes. But, any archetype can have any type because archetypes are not limited by type.But, that's the exact point I was trying to clarify by asking the question. Someone can be possessed by an archetype and be comfortable in that possession because it's all they know. Does that mean they ARE that archetype? No. Does it somehow illuminate their actual psychological type? No.So, I'll ask again, what does it mean to be comfortable at being a type? What are they comfortable WITH?If you've already been through this, you should be able to answer the question in less than a paragraph. It would take less words than you put into that post attempting to dismiss the legitimate question as "unproductive".
>>83618695>No, types cannot be archetypesSkill issue of your thought
>what does it mean to be comfortable at being a type?The gremlin needs a dissection of comfort onto the platter oh Jesus almighty
>>83618702You clearly don't understand what an archetype is. You CANNOT be an archetype. You're really illuminating your own skill issues at understanding Jung. You just failed the first exam on a Jung 101 class.
>Does that mean they ARE that archetype? No.>Does it somehow illuminate their actual psychological type? No.This one didn't read the Red Book with anything but their ass
>I refuse to elaborate on what I'm saying, because I don't know what I'm saying!!Well, damn. The pseud strikes again.
That's right bitch, the class failer is striking you. Rev up that persecution complex and validate your inability to not reply to questions like a [REDACTED]
I would like for you to point to any point in the Red Book where Jung says a person can be an archetype, or that identification with an archetype somehow points to their psychological type.I'll wait. (I know it doesn't exist.)
>>83617024the tests are for normies. if you want to get your type you need to read the 8 functions and figure out which ones you use the most. obviously theres zero chance the brain actually maps to these made up functions, but theyre an interesting model for getting a rough breakdown on what makes people tick.
Stick that strawman back up your readlet ass.
>by asking me a question on what I mean you're strawmanning me!!!Ok pseudlet. Go back to your little boy animes.
You stan Eureka 7 that's the littlest boy anime out there.
Ah, yes. I occasionally post pictures from it, I'm tooooootally obsessed with it.Nice projection though. You're clearly obsessed with Twohoes, little boy.
>>83618656Come up with your own questions then tranny.
>>83618265Not referring to his ideals or beliefs, Fe-ggot. The only thing I ever found novel or insightful from him were GPT optimizations.
>>83618883I literally dropped them questions you shriveled up microbetachud. Your existence screams TRANS RIGHTS more than any NGO could.>>83618806I hate it though. I'm surprised YOU never got into it since ZUN writings are peak scatterbrain pseud half-ass sloppa like your posts and attempts to say anything.
>>83618918FEMBOI RIGHTS!!!
>>83618918Sorry, I'm not a pseud like you.>I can't understand you, that means you're stupid!Skill issue projection. You're favorite.
>>83618923You're chopped unc so you get none. We can op transition you though. We'll contact you soon.>>83618928If you projected that others say you're stupid, then I guess you're really retarded. Thank JVNG and FREVD for the empiricism. Their spirits are NOVRISHED
>>83618972ur ugly as shit and probably not even the original stupid whore
>>83618535How do we reconnect him>>83618598Honestly hard to say, because comfort could be a temporary mood while type is a much more long-term thing.
>>83618972>I'm going to call you stupid and then pretend I didn't call you stupidLmao that's funny. Does that 900 elo strat work for you often? Says a lot about your elo.
>>83619004How the "environmentally forced mistype" goes then, compared to "yup, a typical type you'd get and to start individuating from" then?
>>83619004>>83619026I mean you'd think there'd be mistype neuroses that are definitely mistype neuroses, but that's vague.
>>83619026>"environmentally forced mistype"iirc it was mostly 2 ways>your current environment has everyone with, say, inferior feeling so you feel pressured to not use feeling much>or you try to balance out other people's types, say that the environment really needs some thinking so even if your thinking isn't the primary function, you might use that more than what you would prefer to(excluding having so low individuation that you literally just do what others do because you don't know any better)>"yup, a typical type you'd get and to start individuating from" Not sure what you mean here.
>>83619004It's quite simple, really. One must reconvene with the collective unconscious and integrate the archetypes.>>83619055You've mischaracterized what it means to be a type, or to even use a function. The inferior function is not used less than the dominant function. In fact, it's quite often the exact opposite. In an environment where everyone is inferior feeling, the emotional atmosphere will be charged. It's not a place absent of emotions, it's a place of constant emotional turmoil and tension where someone would have to walk on emotional eggshells to avoid triggering other people's shadow. >excluding having so low individuationThis is also another mischaracterization, individuation is not something you "have", and going along with other people can, in fact, be a sign of someone who is more individuated.
>>83618578>Here's the thing, I possess it. You are possessed by it. Yet you'd have us reject our childhood desires for the sake of growing up, as if one can't appreciate both youth and age.>It keeps you stuck, you kill off your own desires that don't align with it.If this is your relationship with childlike idealization, it lives in your head rent free. Despite what you say, it owns you. Otherwise you wouldn't be so resentful of those more horny and spry than you. >difficult moment shows up, you give up and take an easier route. That doesn't follow. Ambition is not the enemy of hard work. You've found an ugly meaning of a beautiful thing and expect the rest of the world to share your view.>You refuse to grow in any way that makes it feel bad or out of control. How did we go from "I have child-like ideals I pursue and believe in" to "I need to have control over my life and can't handle discomfort." That sounds like a personal thing you're dealing with that you've unconsciously inserted into the conversation.>You cede all power do it, it is your entire story. And that's awesome. But, to cede all power to your dreams means to actually put in work and take risks to achieve them, no? It's why the real journey is the friends we made along the way. Though nobody says that when they set out for adventure. >The only thing that's grim is your warped point of view which has placed yourself at a moral high ground for refusing to grow up.Those who'd take the high ground on the basis of their age are closer to the Reaper here in both senses.
>>83619113Why did you reply to me only to be excessively pedantic
>>83619126why did you reply to me only to be superfluously redundant and address none of the points? Do you lack the intellectual capacity to understand and retort the points being made, and that's why you respond with emotional dismissal?
>>83619055Yeah but, that mistype could also persist despite environment changes and maybe fueled by misperceptions during introspection, no?>Not sure what you mean here"Natural type" under the other (non forced) conditions>>83619126It's a control freak that feels existentially threatened by activities of people. But in a 3L kind, so that retarded ideas are preferred over better ones that others have more experience with.>>83618988Stop being a little sissy redditor cuck maybe? Chopped ass ahh ohio unc
>>83619169Because it's just pointless bitching and hair-splitting, also you just jumped in a convo not even addressed directly at you.>>83619200>that mistype could also persist despite environment changes and maybe fueled by misperceptions during introspection, no?I see that as perfectly possible yeah.>"Natural type" under the other (non forced) conditionsAssuming perfectly ideal conditions, knowledge, and valid testing method, mistype shouldn't be happening here.
>>83619200ugly ass broke loser
>>83619214>Why are you participating in the topic of the thread?!?!?What a stupid faggot.You're the only one bitching. If you don't want other people correcting your mischaracterizations, take it to a private forum. Maybe reddit or discord are more your speed. You have can DMs there.
>Noooo I should be allowed to force anyone to read my ideas and force them to talk to me even though no one else does if you don't like it then go back to somewhere else even though you've been here longer than meeeee
>Noooo you can't violate my hekkin safe space with words I don't like!!!1>REEEEEEEE>REEEEEEEEELmao kids say the darndest things.
>>83619214Ok can the "real" comfort be how easy it is to use the transcendent function under such and such type, then? Would it even take precedence over comfort of having fewer neuroses or better productivity?>>83619241You're not participating in any topic except you jerking your obnoxious retard neuron trying to disrupt and block out any potential discussion.>>83619229maldin bozo alert
>>83619327>Ok can the "real" comfort be how easy it is to use the transcendent function under such and such type, then?I didn't interpret the trascendent function as a state that you reach while you are comfortable, more like a rough equivalent to the "flow state", very rough but not sure what else to use as a comparison. It's a state where tension exists but it is perfectly balanced as opposed actively pushed back/overwhelming you completely.To be fair though, I don't remember that much since even Jung didn't talk THAT much about it.>Would it even take precedence over comfortPresumably not.
>>83619327>Telling someone they're wrong and are mischaracterizing a concept is trying to block out conversationlmao childish take. If you don't have the intellectual capacity to defend your ideas from criticism, you don't deserve to say them.It speaks more to your own inability and lack of understanding to say it's blocking conversation.
>>83619327and again, another mischaracterization. You cannot USE the transcendent function. It's not a psychological process. You're completely warping the definition and meaning of the term when you mischaracterize it like this.It is not a process which is commanded. At best, all you can do is create the circumstances in which the transcendent function would arise. For the love of Jung, stop misrepresenting his concepts like a pseud.
>>83619361As far as I had read into it, T.F. is the meta-creativity of the mind as a whole. Flow state is a possible side effect/product.Also why T.F. gives you access to stuff that'd be beyond your psychological type.In whatever interpretation of T.F., in the question I meant: if under type X the T.F. is most accessible, does that mean type X is ought to be seen/adapted as the real type, as far as a concept of a "real type" would apply?Even under extreme where type X would be subpar in life, compared to other types.>>83619365>kicked out of 110 discussions award>>83619426Readlet skill issue
>>83619426Normal people can have a conversation without taking every word extremely literally anon. Like yeah I'm not going to write an essay on Jung for every single post I might make about his stuff.>>83619432>Flow state is a possible side effect/product.Only used that as comparison, I didn't believe it was very apt other than the general concept of balancing activity/effort necessary and tension.> if under type X the T.F. is most accessible, does that mean type X is ought to be seen/adapted as the real type, as far as a concept of a "real type" would apply?I can see what you are getting at, and I would assume that to be true since in theory your "real type" should match your natural disposition towards both functions and attitude. Very big "just my opinion" though, as in it sounds intutively correct but I couldn't give you anything to back it up.
The transcend function is not a flow state, it's not a state of comfort, it's not a state of ease. The transcendent function is a state of conflict, quite literally two opposed attitudes, beliefs, etc. Coming into contact with each other within the psyche, and the ego not giving in to the opposed attitudes. A very remedial example would be a conflict of psychological functions, like thinking and feeling and instead of repressing one of the two, or being possessed by one of the two, both opposed attitudes are held. Like thinking your feeling is irrational. It's irrational to be afraid of the dark in your own room where no one could possibly be. But instead of fighting your fear, or fighting the conclusion that it's irrational, you just have them both and allow them both to exist within the psyche.
>The transcendent function is a state of conflict,When I wrote "It's a control freak that feels existentially threatened by activities of people. But in a 3L kind, so that retarded ideas are preferred over better ones that others have more experience with." it wasn't a prompt for you to prompt in the LLM you use for your brain lel>>83619465NOW, progressing from this.Would compatibility with active imagination be more important in determining the real type, comparing to compatibility with T.F.? Yes, asking this even despite that Ac.Im. usually leads to T.F.Ac.Im. and T.F. compatibility are closest there is (AFAIK) to some "individuation troubleshooting metrics" even though even those are subjective.
>>83619529>Inferior thinkoid has to reframe everything through a strictly feeling perspectiveIt all makes sense now.
>>83619529>Would compatibility with active imagination be more important in determining the real type, comparing to compatibility with T.F.?Isn't active imagination something that has very little to do with types in general? Other than a pure casual relationship since you are likely to engage with products of inferior function/attitude due to them existing mostly in the unconscious, among other things.
Of course active imagination has nothing to with types, "patchy" has no idea what he's talking about.He can't even get the most basic concepts correct.
you know, i used to think there was a possibility i could be an extrovert, but with how these past few days have been, ive realized there's no way in god's green earth im possibly extroverted that said i still don't know if im feeling or thinking / perceiving or judging
Maldin~The religious reframe-phobia is typically found in someone playing with chatbot assistants too hard. Or those going to therapy, but ehhhh lmaooooooooo>>83619579Yes and no.Yes it's independent per se, and also no since the contents and mediums WILL depend on the inferior function like you've noted, BUT ALSO. If someone likes to seclude themself and play with clay, but then discovers that writing poetry to work through sentiments feels more of a process of inner development, you would think the latter means it's more like to be an inferior feeling type, right?AND also, in practice there's no way that, for some person, some type wouldn't be easier to do active imagination with, whether universally or linked to the inferior function.So you get combinatorics of a type where it's either:Any Ac.Im. compatibility Ac.Im. compatibility with "presumed real type" inferior functionAc.Im. compatibility with "Ac.Im compatible type" inferior function Ac.Im. compatibility with some other type's inferior function.Which would point at the "real type"?
>He's devolved into saying literally nothing with multiple paragraphs.Lmao. I guess there's a bonus to that, no one can critique you. Since you're not even saying anything.
one of you MBTI peeps should try and type me, tell me whether im a weak and sensitive ISFJ fag or a weak and sensitive INFP faggot
>>83619759You'd have to give some information that would point to your type first.
>>83619685>If someone likes to seclude themself and play with clay, but then discovers that writing poetry to work through sentiments feels more of a process of inner development, you would think the latter means it's more like to be an inferior feeling type, right?Very possible, but here you introduced a specific, visible form of engaging with active imagination supposedly related to inferior feeling. Using the term "inferior" loosely here, as in "non-primary, non-differentiated auxiliary" before somebody screams at me.>AND also, in practice there's no way that, for some person, some type wouldn't be easier to do active imagination with, whether universally or linked to the inferior function.I would imagine if somebody, somehow managed to mistype themselves as the opposite type(and thus engaged with the inferior function one way or another) then unironically they might have engaged in active imagination quite a lot but without being able to tell that was active imagination, confusing it with his conscious attitude.>Which would point at the "real type"?I would definitely count it as a hint that the person is NOT a Feeling type, but nothing more than this. So yeah that's useful information already.
>hit the ceiling and can't even insult a point Did your brain blackout at the word "combinatorics"?>>83619797>if somebody, somehow managed to mistype themselves as the opposite type(and thus engaged with the inferior function one way or another) then unironically they might have engaged in active imagination quite a lot but without being able to tell that was active imagination, confusing it with his conscious attitude.GRIM, GRIM.>Very possible, but here you introduced a specific, visible form of engaging with active imagination supposedly related to inferior feeling. Using the term "inferior" loosely here, as in "non-primary, non-differentiated auxiliary"So it's also that there's the possibility that a poor aux's Ac.Im. can be more enjoyable than the interior's Ac.Im.>I would definitely count it as a hint that the person is NOT a Feeling typeSpeaking of grim, wouldn't double recursive active imagination be possible, too?I think I'll orient by T.F. compatibility for now though, lol.>>83619759>>83619676What's the kind of stuff that feels most bothersome to work through, for you? And what's the stuff you rarely ever consider since it doesn't matter that much?
>>83619775ask me for some information then...o algo..kay here's some info about me off the top of my head-autistic-lazy-never graduated highschool because i doodled in classes all day and played games all day-cant hold down a proper conversation irl if my life depended on it-want to watch 1 million shows but never watches any because either im too tired to watch them or i need to wait until the perfect time to watch them where im not too tired and it's also the right mood and right time of the day-aspires to do a trillion things but never does anything because it's too tiring-is really nice and lets you do anything until im tired and then ill stop talking to you completely and want you to leave me alone and shut up-actively tries to force myself to not listen to everyone else's opinion because then id have nothing to differentiate myself-really secretive and doesn't tell anyone anything (unless it's an anonymous image board where i can tell you anything and all of it will go away)-existential crisis every other day-wishes i were smarter-likes fiction and wishes it were real>>83619855everything that involves doing something whether it's physically or mentally
>>83619866Just read Von Franz's The Problem of the Puer Aeternus because that will help you x100 more than learning your type.Otherwise we'd be typing your unwell state, which would be a mistype.
>>83619866Well, none of that information can really be used to determine your type. That's just a collection of behaviors, it doesn't speak to your internal perspecitve.But, it does speak to a possible archetypal possession. Which is the same one everyone around here is possessed by. The puer aeternus. The habitual tendency to avoid all hard work in favor of quick and easy solutions is the number one identifier of the puer aeternus.
>>83619855>GRIM, GRIMHappened to Freud, if you want to believe Jung on this one.>So it's also that there's the possibility that a poor aux's Ac.Im. can be more enjoyable than the interior's Ac.Im.I guess. Even if engaging with inferior/undifferentiated functions implies the products are muddled together, but hopefully it should reveal some patterns(e.g. the "true" inferior should be more pronounced than the rest in your unconscious, thus the products of it might return to that more often than not).>Speaking of grim, wouldn't double recursive active imagination be possible, too?As in...trying to use active imagination on the products of conscious attitude? I don't think that's how it works lol, but the person might be very confused and somehow end up believing that.>>83619914Throwing anons straight into Von Franz is at least kinder than throwing them straight into Jung.
>>83619921>The habitual tendency to avoid all hard work in favor of quick and easy solutions is the number one identifier of the puer aeternus.That's called life though innitYou spend it being told what to do and when to do it. Everything is easy after you're conditioned to do it.
Also, something to be said, you cannot accurately type someone who is possessed by an archetype.Namely because the person in question has confused the archetype for themselves. Only once the ego has separated itself from the archetype can a type be accurately given.
>>83619921>The habitual tendency to avoid all hard work in favor of quick and easy solutions is the number one identifier of the puer aeternus.Can't believe Jung knew about Occam's Razor but just called it differently.
>>83619938No, it's not life, though.
>>83619973That's not even remotely close to what Occam's razor is. It's almost explicitly the opposite. Occam's razor is about removing unnecessary steps in order to reduce redundant complexity. Very different.
>>83619998Come the fuck on anon that was a blatant shitpost.Reading Jvng doesn't mean I'm a no fun allowed tryhard.
>>83620028I don't know if you know this, but text doesn't have intonation. And when there's retards like Patchy in this thread who would unironically say that because he has no understanding of the concepts at hand;Yes, it is hard to differentiate shitposts from realposts. If your joke is to pretend like you don't know what's going on, it's going to get confused as a legit take, because there are legit retards who don't know what's going on.Don't pretend to be retarded, eventually you'll become retarded.
You COULD type an archetype possessed person though, as a collab effort between the typee and typer. It's just not worth the effort under tense possession, like it's not worth the effort to simulate civility with the possessed.>>83619973Checks out, Oc.Ra.'s good only in comms.>>83619922Von Franz also discusses the play with functions as a way to break out of archetype possession, as a campaign. But as for "Saturnian" Freud though...>Happened to FreudI'm thinking through that.Freud was reluctant to integrate other's ideas (like death instinct) and was anal about his colleagues deviating from what of his own theory he agreed with. Would the "playful use of thinking" be this reductionistic in particular and general?I was reading Becker and he pointed out Freud has weird neuroses and superstitions, especially around traveling and being an uncomfy control freak during family meals. Wouldn't using Ac.Im. so often disarm most of such tensions?Moreover, wouldn't the inferiorish function differentiate contents better than otherwise, when under Ac.Im.?That is, taking Jung's take as truth, how did it lead to all that?>As in...trying to use active imagination on the products of conscious attitude?More like, unaware use of Ac.Im. gets the inferior into conscious focus - something goes out of that focus - the person now uses Ac.Im. on latest "shadow" with awareness, but while being unaware that the prev. config was only an Ac.Im. one.>>83619921Von Franz calls out your "devouring mommy-controlled reductionistic anti-cooperative puer aeternus" archetype possession behavior btw!>>83619998tldr
>>83620090Stop mishmashing a bunch of terms together in order to sound smart, pseud.
>>83620090And also, no. You cannot type someone who is archetypally possessed. Simply because you will not be engaging with the ego. You will be engaging with complexes, ego defense mechanisms and the archetype itself.You cannot type a person who is themselves, not themselves. A person is not an archetype, it's a misidentification with a collection of behaviors.It would be like trying to type someone who has deep unresolved trauma. The trauma is what speaks, not the person. The person misidentifies themselves with the trauma and says "this trauma is me". Which is by definition, undifferentiation. You cannot type someone who is this undifferentiated. It's not possible.The ego must first differentiate itself before typing is possible.
>>83620090Assuming Jung was right, then the results of Freud's Ac.Im would be simply the theories in themselves, not his attitude towards them or other people. He would argue the last part is caused by the emotional behaviors usually people show whenever it comes to the inferior function, as well as its contents.
Typing someone *REQUIRES* that they have a stable identity, and someone who is archetypally possessed, by definition, does not have a stable identity.Trying to type a person in this state of mind does exactly the opposite of what you'd want. You wind up crystalizing their identity with the archetype by adding a label to the archetype which is synonymous with the ego. You're basically blaspheming against Jung with every word you speak. You know NOTHING of Jung or his teachings, outside of the words he used. You can do untold amounts of damage to someone's psyche by trying to type them while they're under the spell of possession.
Every time I read "Jung's teachings" I can't help but giggle because you really make him sound like a cult leader.
>>83620269I will admit that made me chuckle. But, you could apply the same logic to any teacher who developed their own methodology, even someone like Einstein. Special relativity becomes a cult ideal when you look at the world through that lens.Also, I don't make him sound like that, you hear it that way. Don't project your lens onto my words, rude dude. >:(
>>83620209Anyhow evidently rate os use of Ac.Im. isn't much of a strict correlate with observed depth of individuation/magnitude of differentiation of metacognition/vitalizing generativity of non-primary function.On this note, I think Jung missed out on calling out Nietzsche's possible Ac.Im. clinch.Better really stick to T.F. then.>>83620269I sacrifice 5 Petersonians a month to my Jung altar in Roblox>>83620186Skill issue
I wonder who is more of a bad faith actor, Te or Patchy?I'm beginning to think Te is the lesser of two evils here.
>>83620329>Anyhow evidently rate os use of Ac.Im. isn't much of a strict correlate with observed depth of individuation/magnitude of differentiation of metacognition/vitalizing generativity of non-primary function.Aye.>On this note, I think Jung missed out on calling out Nietzsche's possible Ac.Im. clinch.As in, Nietzsche's works showing his inferior sensation/feeling?(Jung typed him introverted intuition and thinking, didn't specify the order but I'm willing to bet intuition first)I need to re-read Psychological Types because I'm sure this was touched upon at some point.
Ruh roh I didn't intend to get on your nerves. Because fuck off and cry on some reddit and discord.>>83620356>Nietzsche's works showing his inferior sensation/feeling?(Jung typed him introverted intuition and thinking, didn't specify the order but I'm willing to bet intuition first)I'm actually considering whether Nietzsche was a non-thinkoid who got into thinking by Ac.Im. not unlike how he got possessed by his Dionysian archetypes and the like. As a compensatory destressor from the drama of life.>I need to re-read Psychological Types because I'm sure this was touched upon at some point.The lectures on Nietzsche go deeper as an addendum, not much of typology per se in there though.
I'm okay with Patchy because it's not like he's claiming to know everything, he's actively asking questions and taking in input, while questioning his own ideas.You know unlike a certain poster who really needs to act as annoying as he can and try to start discussions for the sake of, only to end them with "actually I meant exactly what you meant but I had to drag the thread for 100 posts to satisfy my pedantic ass".
>>83620383I would need to read more about Nietzsche to say anything about what might be his true type. Jung himself might be biased since he's not exactly subtle about bringing him up literally everywhere in his works.
>>83620383Oh, don't worry. None of your intentionally annoying things got on my nerves. You can be a cringe faggot all you want, I don't care about that.
>>83620407>Jung himself might be biased since he's not exactly subtle about bringing him up literally everywhere in his works.By the way, what was the Jung's method on figuring out that Freud's just thinkoiding as a play as not as thinkoiding?Because I'd go as far as to argue that Freud did his thinkoiding more differentiated (he even considered the shared dream phenomena as something legit) than, say, Schopenhauer (one big justification of his aesthetic preferences of dramatic masochism) and Hegel (took a loaded concept of God and started giving it prescriptions out nowhere just to fit own theory so far).To put it frankly, was Jung just biased on Freud? To what extent can we say that someone's not having some function differentiated just because there were subdifferentiation blips? Same for other functions. I mean there's certainly a way that's not a pissing contest.
>>83620470>By the way, what was the Jung's method on figuring out that Freud's just thinkoiding as a play as not as thinkoiding?Unfortunately can't remember, but I know it was actually first mentioned in V.F. book and then finally Jung himself said as much.
Jung doesn't explicitly type Freud as a thinking type in PT.
Jung wrote and said more than what exists in PT
>>83618888The most insightful thing you could take from me is that the Lord Jesus Christ is real, that He is God, that the Bible is True. There is a creator and your gay space atheism will lead to the destruction of everything you know, love, and desire.
Yeah, and he doesn't type Freud, for a bunch of different reasons. At best, he uses Freud as a hypothetical example of what opposing attitudes look like, the two of them (Freud and Jung) have such different approaches to analytical psychology and Jung attributed this to their opposite attitudes.Jung thought Jung was introverted and Freud was extroverted and that this was the main reason they saw things differently.But, that's it. It's not that deep, he doesn't type Freud. But he does have some ideas of what his potential type could be.
We can argue all day about what counts as "truly" typing somebody but I won't do that and just drop this instead.
Freud was the better man because he made everyone realize how wrong he was. Jung is still tricking people into his lies to this very day. We need to move past Jung.
>>83620704He does speak to possibilities a lot. That's what Jung does. He doesn't say Freud is a specific type, he just says what functions seem to be most evidently differentiated. That's because Jung's methodology is mostly about a circular reduction. But, other people's psyche is not so easy to reduce in that manner, and you're always left with possibilities for further reduction.
>>83620779>He does speak to possibilities a lot. That's what Jung does.That I know. Such is the life of the intuitard.
>>83620789You say that as if it were a bad quality. As if it were somehow inferior to the sensoids way of "I see it, therefore it is exactly how I see it!"
>>83620843Don't know about you but I could use being more decisive like that.Intuition offers no certainty ever tho, by design.
>>83620857Intuition offers no more or no less certainty than sensation, due to their shared irrational nature.But, what you're speaking of is actually not a symptom ones type. Rather, a symptom of a some complex, a fear of making the wrong choice and losing out, I would guess.
>>83620940>Intuition offers no more or no less certainty than sensationSaid no intuition type literally ever.It's literally not certain by design because it can only speak of what might have happened, or could possibly happen, not ever what it really is. You seem to falsely believe you could replace a function with another if they belong to the same category, but if there is one thing I'm certain about, is the fact that this violates the entire point of the theory. You are only ever complete with extraversion/introversion working in tandem, along with all the 4 functions... which is not likely at all so of course most people won't be complete in this sense.
Also, there's something very telling about the way you worded that.Desire for decisiveness, which is the ego speaking.But intuition offering no clarity.Intuition opposes and antagonizes the ego's desire. Which hints to, in no uncertain terms, that intuition is inferior.
I guess the shit takes are part of what makes the thread fun and I honestly missed it a little, so w/e.
>>83621003Again, it's not more or less certain than sensation. The irrational functions do not provide certainty, that's the realm of the rational functions.>You seem to falsely believe you could replace a function with another if they belong to the same categoryThat's not at all what I believe, nor is it what I said. I can't even address the rest of your post because you're arguing with a strawman of your own creation, rather than my own words.
Both sensation and intuition perceive what is there. They are equally certain and uncertain in that regard, because the thing being perceived may or may not really be there.Sensations perception of the keyboard in front of you is equally liable to be false, the keyboard MIGHT NOT exists. In the same regard that a possibility that intuition perceives might not be the real way things happen/edBut, if intuition is harassing your ego and offering potentials which mostly stir up uncertainty and/or distress, that is THE definition of the inferior function.
>>83621076>The irrational functions do not provide certaintySensation is about making you aware of what's there, without much room for doubt UNTIL you bring up a rational function, since thinking would make you question whether it makes any sense, and feeling would make you question your personal/other people's reception.Then Intuition completely would completely distract you from this and move the focus on what "could" be there, as useful as it is, I'm sure any intuitive type with any degree of introspection would say that does lack an element of certainty, although rational functions might help, thinking helping you figure out that actually it does make perfect sense to "see" that, and feeling in this context offering either motivation to help make it happen/prevent it, depending on whether you consider the possibility to be good or bad.>>83621135>Sensations perception of the keyboard in front of you is equally liable to be falseThey could be, but only way I could question it from the PoV of a sensation type would be either to observe a little better and spot something off, or conclude with thinking that it's not making any sense for a keyboard to be here even if I can certainly see it.>if intuition is harassing your ego and offering potentials which mostly stir up uncertainty and/or distressNah, it's the part about being painfully aware of its limitations due to having used it for all of my life.Also very much the typical first step to whatever is the next stage of individuation.
>>83613990>women live rent free in MGTOWers headsGay armchair psychology, you should be ashamed of yourself
>>83621302>since thinking would make you question whether it makes any sense, and feeling would make you question your personal/other people's reception.These aren't quite right, but it's a bit nitpicky. Really, thinking and feeling, in simple terms, just add labels to things. There's no need to overcomplicate it from there. >I'm sure any intuitive type with any degree of introspection would say that does lack an element of certaintyOnly in the sense that sensation also lacks certainty. Just because intuition perceives possibilities, potentials, connections, etc. Doesn't mean it's less certain than sensation. They are both equally un/certain, just about different things. >but only way I could question it from the PoV of a sensation type would be either to observe a little better This sort of thing is irrelevant. Because the uncertainty is inherent to perception. It's entirely possible that the objects which you perceive with your senses do not exist in the state that you believe they do. The same rule applies to intuition. This uncertainty paradox applies to all perception. You cannot perceive things better, because your senses have limits. >Nah, it's the part about being painfully aware of its limitations due to having used it for all of my life.I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're definitely framing things in a way which makes it seem like intuition is your inferior function and that sensation is more differentiated. It could just be a problem of language, so I'm not saying you are or aren't anything, just commenting on what appears to me.
>>83621509>There's no need to overcomplicate it from there.They aren't general definitions, it was with a specific context.>Only in the sense that sensation also lacks certainty. By default, you don't doubt sense-perception. There has to be a reason to do so, which might or might not also come from Sensation. And by default, you can't be sure about intuition because it only deals in what's not sure by definition. > It's entirely possible that the objects which you perceive with your senses do not exist in the state that you believe they do. Yes but it's not Sensation telling you that.>The same rule applies to intuition.Things intuition perceives, by very definition of the function, do not exist "yet" or "right now", but it might show a very real possibility.>but you're definitely framing things in a way which makes it seem like intuition is your inferior function and that sensation is more differentiated. I would agree if I framed it as intuition itself stressing me out, but it's more like the opposite. I can "intuit" all day long but the inherent certainty of sensation is what any intuition type craves, since it's their inferior function and they can't quite connect to it.
>>83621656>it was with a specific context.I'm aware of that. >By default, you don't doubt sense-perception.This can be said about all functions, intuition included. We don't naturally doubt our own psyche. These sort of doubts come from disowned aspects in the shadow.And you did that thing again, at least the third time, you framed sensation as the thing to be trusted, and intuition the thing to be doubted. Once is coincidence twice is happenstance thrice is a pattern. >Yes but it's not Sensation telling you that.Nor does intuition, what's your point here?>do not exist "yet" or "right now"That's not true. Intuition does not strictly perceive the past or future. It can also perceive the now. It just does not perceive it in concrete terms, like sensation.You can have an intuition about an object, say a person, directly in front of you that illuminates some quality of their personhood in the immediate. For instance, know they're mean, or have some sort of insight into their personality. You can get information about objects in the now through intuition.The perception just does not present itself in concrete terms. >if I framed it as intuition itself stressing me out,It's not about stressing you out though. That's the only quality of the inferior function. >but the inherent certainty of sensation is what any intuition type craves,....What? That's just blatantly wrong. That's what a sensation type craves. They strictly do not want intuition to intrude on their perceived sensory structure. You did it AGAIN. You keep framing sensation as your dominant function. Over and over and over. There's nothing wrong with being a sensation type, why are you fighting so hard against it while clearly having an ego identity of a sensing type?What's going on here?
>>83621906>That's the only quality of the inferior function.I meant that's NOT the only quality, whoop.
theory fagging this much, my inferior se craves experential data because i hate all this endless theory fagging of INTPs and ENTPs.
>>83622004Believe me we are on the same train here.I could only dream of a world where it's possible to conduct some cool experiments on anything Jung shat out of "active imagination" if you catch my drift.
>>83620470I've decided you're my next SLAVE. Now Strip naked while I get the hose and lysol ready, you're getting a flea bath.
There are plenty of experiments that are possible with empirical results. Especially when you understand what the symbols are supposed to be representing.You can literally do the experiments on yourself if you follow what Jung is teaching, because that's exactly what he's doing. Teaching you how to run the experiments.
Anyway man, I oughta conclude this with the most obvious shit I will ever say in the history of /mbti/, if not /r9k/ as a whole butYou crave what you lack... except when you don't and for some reason you want more of the same but that's usually a misguided attempt at filling the void with what you are already familiar with. Humans sure do like their coping mechanisms.
>>83617841You are the only person who proved they have a soul (or "will", or "I am" or whatever you wanna call it) and got past the NPC filter. Congrats.
>>83622139That's a mischaracterization of the inferior function. It's not something you "lack" it's something you've distanced yourself from.The inferior function exists in abundance, so much so that one cannot stand it, its presence is like nails on a chalkboard. That nagging thought at the back of your head "you're stupid!" "You're not good enough" "everything is going to go wrong!" or whatever it may be, THAT is your inferior function making noise. It's that noise that just gets louder every time you try and push it away.The inferior function craves you, not the other way around. (really, that's an oversimplification, the shadow craves integration with the ego and it speaks to the ego with the inferior function. The shadow wants nothing more than to be whole with the ego, but the ego, being a fragile little bitch that it is, cannot stand these aspects that it deems to be "negative" or "ugly", so it cuts them off and represses them into the unconscious, where they fester and brood, and the shadow cannot stand this repression so it forces these unconscious thoughts onto the conscious mind in order to get the attention of the ego, but this just agitates the ego and causes it to erupt in behaviors.)
>>83622086You can not do experiments on yourself because of placebo effects.
>>83591760INTPI saw a falcon and some javelinas near the lake recently Bill Anders' quote "We went to discover the moon, but instead we discovered the earth for the first time." Things only get better when each of us decides to do better.I enjoy spontanety, it makes each day feel distinct from eachother.I learned that our junk DNA tells a massive protein splicesosome complex were to make cuts in RNA and that lets our cells produce 400,000 proteins with only 10000 genes
>>83622147>*Beep boop*Am robit.>>83622311That isn't really applicable to psychological experiments.
>>83622391>That isn't really applicable to psychological experiments.That's exactly where it is most applicable.
>>83622734That makes absolutely no sense. A placebo requires some sort of external input for you to place faith in, to believe it had some affect on you.How are you going to invoke a placebo affect on your own psyche? Was the emotion you had not really an emotion you had, was the thought not really a thought you had? Do you even understand what you're arguing for, or against? Because it doesn't seem that way.
>>83622774>Because it doesn't seem that way.You don't understand why double blind experiments exist.
>>83622809Completely inapplicable to an experiment on your own psyche. This sort of binary thinking does far more harm than good.
>>83622838>Completely inapplicable to an experiment on your own psyche.It is doubly applicable actually.
>Your typeintp>What's something that made you smile recently?bitch getting shot by ice>Who inspires you to be kinderkind people>Do you have a routine that makes you feel centered or do you live chaotically?yes i try to follow a fairly rigid routine including thigns like reading, going on a walk, meditation trying to add back in some stuff i've fallen off on as well on top of it >What's something you learned recently that surprised you?the scottish immigrants who populated appalachia actually live on the same mountain range as they lived on in scotland, it's just a giant one that goes across the ocean
>>83620335I do not act in bad faith :)
>>83622868Evidently the anon you're talking to is above any possible free will mechanisms...>>83622057You're like a fem version of a Tatecel...
I was skeptical of Jung labeling the feeling function as rational, but I'd figured I guess it does ration around, and lately I also see that sentiments truly get into the grinder of "provide evidence, validate, convince" not unlike logics within thinking. Quite grotesque though.
Not making the next thread btw. >>83619922Would a primitive-like (no differentiation to speak of, whether because of lack of development, or some mental illness, or ongoing psychosis, or archetype possession) psyche enjoy playing with all of the functions?It also COULD be possible that that person just T.F.'d a bit too hard to enjoy playing with any of the functions?
>>83624066lazy pants
>>83624080It's 666D chess where the winning move is [REDACTED]
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