Streamlined psilocybin extraction tech

Materials needed: Anhydrous methanol, glacial acetic acid, Tartaric/Succinic/Benzoic acid, 95% ethanol

>Add 1% GAA to Methanol
>soak dry shrooms in fridge
>filter & dry in oven or dehydrator
>redisolve in ethanol and add one of the second acids
>dry and put into capsules
This creates a shelf stable crude extract.
Note: Methanol is extremely toxic. Evaporate completely.

I am taking 150mg of pregabalin every day.

So I have been going a little overboard on my kratom relapse I took like 12 grams of it today. I just wanted to feel comfy. Chat I think this stuff is a little bit of an issue. How the hell do I quit for a few days and then just completely tumble down to even more then I was usually taking

>>83956425
Overbearing mom + emotionally unavailable dad making you unable to feel capable of feeling your own emotions without guilt.

>>83956533
No my mom was a meth head that left when I was 3 and my dad was a pill head alcoholic that beat me every day of my life until he got sent to prison for trying to murder my grandpa. I think he is homeless now idk I do not really care hopefully he is dead

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tfw you have to take 30 of these little guys to even start feeling high

Tried 5mg meth orally today, but it wasn't enough to feel anything substantial. Gonna try 10mg next chance I get.

Anyone else completely lose their appetite on amphetamines? How do you deal with it?

>>83958065
Eat beforehand. Go up to 15mg also if ingested orally.

>Whats the best high you've ever had?
>Whats the craziest thing you've done while high?
>whats the worst bad-high you've ever had?

Gee I wish I'm like you cool kids. The hardest I've took is modafinil kek

>>83955738
i want to be a degen and walk around at night and smoke pot but its -20 where i live right now

goddamnit, family wants to have a little dinner on saturday. that was my mdma day. guess it'll have to be sunday. they better not try to mess with my sunday.
wondering if i should try to go out for a walk in the woods this time. i don't know if it's bullshit but physical exertion might contribute to the comedown being worse, so i don't know if i should. it also puts me in more danger of being dehydrated. maybe i should wait for the summer.
had two rolls so far, first time i didn't have a bad comedown at all, it was all positive well into the next day even. second time i felt a bit more of the "grayness" afterward but it was just me going back to normal, faster than the first time.

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>>83958742
>Whats the best high you've ever had?
When I took 50mg of zolpidem, hours seemed to pass in minutes and I experienced mild hallucinations.
>Whats the craziest thing you've done while high?
I never did anything out of the ordinary.
>Whats the worst bad-high you've ever had?
I've never had a truly bad experience. The worst that happened was when I took 10mg of alprazolam throughout the day and fell asleep on a bus, so I had to take another bus to reach my destination.

>>83958742
>>Whats the best high you've ever had?
Probably my first time 2C-B during lockdown.
>>Whats the craziest thing you've done while high?
Not sure.
>>whats the worst bad-high you've ever had?
Mixing opium with weed alcohol caffeine nicotine and off brand sports drink.
You know what's worse than projectile vomiting? Expelling your food in semi solid globs . Almost like shitting out your mouth.

going through a serious anxiety episode right now, took 1mg of clonazepam but shit doesn' t work anymore

>>83959625
https://youtu.be/Ilt174CTVnE?si=ZjMEsN1ksHgDk18K

>>83961386
https://youtu.be/jvPUSzmj5_8?si=s7yobIRiOzv5j0Er

have a bump on me

I'm thinking of using risperidone recreationally. I'm thinking of taking 30mg. Will the effects be similar to those of benzodiazepines?

>>83963402
I just did some research and realized that 30mg is an extremely high dose. Maybe I'll try 9mg.

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>in total, /drugfeel/ has been open for 25 hours.
>there are only 21 replies in the thread.
I have the impression that business is slower than usual.

is it normal to only feel the effects of adderall at 100mg? Ive tried up to the maximum approved doses for both vyvanse and adderall and felt nothing. I did used to do mdma monthly for about 2 years but completely stopped a year ago. I started taking adhd meds 2 months ago. Im sure 100mg is unsustainable so what should i do?

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>>83955738
thinking of getting Bupropion today.
well my parents think i just need to "think positively"
so will prob never get tested.
what is the best way to consume it.
i am mostly trying to get it for my anxiety i also may have bipolar or bpd or something too.

the depression itself isn't a problem i have learned how to live with it. i just want this anxiety to stop

getting Bupropion because it helps with focus too and i may have adhd

>Pooped my brains out, finally truly empty after days of constipation
>Ate a nutritious meal
>Had a 10/10 goon session
>Drunk on alcohol and kratom
>Curled up in bed with no one coming to bother me the whole night
This really is what life is all about, huh?

I dropped acid and saw and heard Jesus.
He called me a pussy.
What should I take out of this experience?

>>83958742
>Whats the best high you've ever had?
Probably first time I did mdma, mainly because I felt like a kid again.
>Whats the craziest thing you've done while high?
I drank the water out of the cat bowl. I took ketamine+mdma+dexedrine, long story short I ended up on the floor & looked over and saw a bowl of water and was like "oh here's my water".
>whats the worst bad-high you've ever had?
Worst: I had been awake on dexedrine for 6 days straight, I got really paranoid. I started deleting my online accounts, but some couldn't be deleted. I contacted the admins, they didn't respond, so I emailed a lawyer (to create a cease and desist letter). When he didn't respond I thought "he's in on it", so I go in my car and went to go deal with him, but it was like 3am (I lost track of time) so no one was there.
btw I don't do drugs anymore (6 years sober).

>>83956158
I never tried it before
How does it influence your day?
Are you floating? High? Numb?

>>83956969
>tfw you have to take 30 of these little guys to even start feeling high
That's a lot. Go back.

>>83958065
>Anyone else completely lose their appetite on amphetamines? How do you deal with it?
I eat a full meal before dosing. Hope you enjoy the Meth! It's a good drug if you can keep use in check.

>>83958742
>Whats the best high you've ever had?
Either 2mg Brotizolam and a glass of wine, which was really euphoric, or an LSD trip at my hight where I watched Loui CK and felt every neuron fire in my brain.
>Whats the craziest thing you've done while high?
Went to the backyard of an old lady we used to smoke her half smoked medical joints at 2am looking for a joint. Found half a one in the gravel with a snail ontop of it. Smoked it all the same.
>whats the worst bad-high you've ever had?
Did acid with a girl friend. When she took her thongue out I saw only half a tab in there. Another friend came over and I thought she gave him half without telling me. Was paranoid the whole trip and closed off emotionally. When I confronted her about it she said she folded it in half in her mouth and I felt so guilty that I accused her. The whole trip was either simmering angry paranoia or guilty sadness. I don't trip with people anymore. Another was tripping with two friends and one got a bad trip and I had to handle my own trip while assisting him, at some point I told him "I cannot in good reason say you should do more LSD ever", which was a bad thing to say to a man on a bad trip. He took me in his car home and got in alleys and side-streets. At one point there was a police car infront of us and I told him to follow the police car out the parking lot he got us into saying "the police are here to show us the way" he told me he was feeling like he's driving the road to hell and my empathy was so high that I felt really bad with him. When he dropped me off at my house he hugged me hard and let out a scream of pain and I couldn't have felt worse. LSD with people is just not for me.

>>83959566
Have a good roll, anon!
>first time i didn't have a bad comedown at all, it was all positive well into the next day even. second time i felt a bit more of the "grayness"
Yeah, that seems to be common.

>>83965053
I had seizures with just 150mg of bupropion.

>>83961087
What's your tolerance? Like, how much do you take and how frequently?
I've been taking 3mg of Clonazepam a week for over 6 months, now and its been working so far, but I'm significantly less sleepy on it, so my body must've gotten used to it.

>>83961087
>>83965916
Hope you feel better soon! Maybe try a larger dose?

>>83965397
>paranoid
What a bizarre story, I hope this doesn't happen to any other anonymous person.
>>83965408
Apparently, this doesn't change my day at all. I bought pregabalin for recreational use, but even at high doses I didn't feel anything except mild sedation. So I decided to take a little every day to see if it has any effect over the weeks.

>>83963402
Using it without a medical need often leads to uncomfortable side effects like muscle stiffness, tremors, or extreme restlessness.
I wouldn't mess with APs in a recreational way.
It won't have effects similar to benzos in the slightest. Even Seroquel only has body-paralyzing properties and that's it, despite being used as a sleep aid. Just use regular drugs.
APs' side-effects are unbareable to me.
Try to get prescribed with benzos instead.

did 600mg of pregabalin and felt really cranky and restless and suicidal the next day. not doing that again.

>>83964095
>I have the impression that business is slower than usual
Oh, you don't know. The thread used to get 30+ replies a night on weeknights and 60+ on Fridays, but even Fridays are slow now. People told me that by new years the thread will be thriving, but I don't see it happening.

>>83964392
>is it normal to only feel the effects of adderall at 100mg?
Not really. Though, I did 100mg Ritalin with tolerance and it's been working.
>Ive tried up to the maximum approved doses for both vyvanse and adderall and felt nothing. I did used to do mdma monthly for about 2 years but completely stopped a year ago
Do you think the MDMA using years have had a bad effect on your ability to feel Amphetamines?
>Im sure 100mg is unsustainable so what should i do?
Save it for when you really need it. You mean that without a tolerance you can only feel Adderall in doses of 100mg and on? That's awfully bizzare.
Idk what to offer if that's the case... Your body should've gone back to baseline a long time ago and feel a theraputic dose of Adderall like normal.

Google AI agrees that monthly MDMA use can cause long-term effects on your ability to process Amphetamines:"Using MDMA monthly doesn't allow your brain enough time to fully return to its chemical baseline. Over two years, your brain adapts to a high-stimulant environment, raising the threshold for what you perceive as a 'high.'

MDMA is more taxing on the serotonin system. While significant healing happens in a year, some heavy users report that stimulant sensitivity never quite returns to "first-time" levels."
Keep on keeping on.

>>83965053
Goodluck finding a solution that works for you, anon!
>so will prob never get tested
You should go to a psychiatrist for testing. Nevermind what your parents say, it's your health.
Don't mess around with blackmarket Antidepressants.

>>83965193
>This really is what life is all about, huh?
Sounds like it was a good day. Yeah, it's about the little moments as much as it is about the big ones. What did you do to be constipated?
How much Kratom and Alcohol did you drink?

>>83965333
>What should I take out of this experience?
That you're a pussy and even Jesus thinks so?
How much LSD did you take? Why did Jesus call you a pussy?

>>83965950
>I decided to take a little every day to see if it has any effect over the weeks
Nta, but it'll just get weaker with time and you may get physically addicted to it. Just stick to 3g at most and try to enjoy it that way. If you don't, Pregabalin may just not be the drug for you.

t. Did 16g Pregabalin. Highly euphoric, but had health consequences.

>>83965972
>did 600mg of pregabalin and felt really cranky and restless and suicidal the next day
Usually I feel high the next day and calm and collected. Sorry it affecrs you that way, anon. 600mg is also very little compared to my 3.3g days and that once I did 16g. Maybe pregab isn't for you?

>>83966133
well i dont have a good tolerance for it so i think it was the rebound. i feel good with 300mg

>>83966160
>i think it was the rebound
For sure that what it was.
>i feel good with 300mg
Nice.
I don't have tolerance either when I do 3.3g, I just like not being able to walk straight.
3.3g is one blisterpack-worth of 300mg capsules.
It's just that anytime I take it I feel high the next day and then it fades into calmness.

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I just bought risperidone, I'm going to take 10mg (5 tablets), there are 30 tablets in total, if every time I use risperidone I take 5 tablets, in total I will be able to use risperidone 6 times.
Today I'm working, I want to see what it's like to work under the effect of 10mg of risperidone. I hope I don't faint.

I just did 7 months in prison. I went in addicted to opiates God that was awful. Just hell. You'd think there'd be more drugs in prison but not here it was hard. I did the following drugs in prison -

>pregabalin (most common one I did about twice a week 600 or 900 mg)
>diazepam (only took 20mg once)
>clonazepam (took 2mg once)
>smoked synthetic cannabis (one session with weird new cellie)
>"bocky" (very popular in prison but I onky did a few times as my tolerance is fucked/too expensive - buprenorphine btw)
>and would take some form of quitiepine/mirtazipine/amytriptyline/clozapine most nights to sleep. Got prescribed mirtazipine for last few months but I would trade 7x30mg for 1x300mg pregab
>also tried atomoxetine once but it was like a strong coffee then I felt bad

Then I got out and did heroin and puked for half a day and felt like I was dying. There were tabs in there too but I can't think of a worse place to trip than jail. Never drank hooch never will.

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>>83966785
That must have been terrible for you. I hope you get better soon.

>>83966652
>I just bought risperidone
Are you prescribed them? If not, I wouldn't play with APs like that. Just go to a psychiatrist and get a diagnosis and proper medicine prescription.
Also, what issue are you treating with it?
>I want to see what it's like to work under the effect of 10mg of risperidone
It's more cohesive to see how APs work overtime built-up in your system rather than taking some and seeing how you feel in the moment. I think you're approaching the issue from a wrong prespective.
The APs that I take now have almost completely different effect profiles than they did when I first started taking them. A lot of Anti-Psychotics have temporary effects (dry mouth, muscle stiffness, drowsiness, etc. etc.) that you experience while adapting to the med and permanent effects (mostly Dopamine antagonism and the resulting Anti-Psychotic effect) that stay after months of taking the med. Try doing 10mg of Risperidone for 1-3 months daily for a real full picture of how it'll be like working under influence in a theraputic setting.
Goodluck, anon.
I hope you find what you're looking for.

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>>83967270
>Are you prescribed them?
Yes.
>Also, what issue are you treating with it?
None, I just want to use risperidone recreationally. I researched it and the most likely outcome is that I'll become apathetic and sleepy.
>It's more cohesive to see how APs work overtime built-up in your system
In the past, I used to take 3mg of risperidone every day for 1 month.

>>83966785
>I just did 7 months in prison
Welcome back to freedom, anon!
>I went in addicted to opiates God that was awful. Just hell
Damn, I can't imagine. Heard an anon ITT went homeless while addicted to fent and had to kick it in the streets. Opioid addiction is hard as it is to break free from in everyday situations, not to mention cold-turkey in prison.
Were they hard on you guys with discipline?
My friend went to military prison and they're very strict, but it's the Army so they have to be hard on discipline. Apart for that, most of prisoners were there because they disobayed an order, so no hard criminals, it was baby's first prison.
Were you serving with hard criminals?
Were there gangs to join? Did you?
>I would trade 7x30mg for 1x300mg pregab
Woah, prison bartering. Is that a good rate? What else could you get in exchange for your meds? Magazines? Chocolate? Cigs? Shivs?
>Then I got out and did heroin and puked for half a day and felt like I was dying
Yeah, sounds about right lol.
>There were tabs in there too but I can't think of a worse place to trip than jail
For sure, man. Some can push past and escape using acid, but for the most part it'll just draw your attention to your shitty situation.
>Never drank hooch never will
Good choice, Alcohol is vile stuff. Outside, too?
Is it true they make it from rotten fruit in the bathroom toilet? What's the highest quality booze you've had access to?

>>83967330
>Yes
What's your treatment plan, then?
>None, I just want to use risperidone recreationally
If you're prescribed them they must be for treating something? Also, if recreation is what you're looking for, why not go for benzos? Risperidone doesn't quite have a recreational value. What is it with all the people doing APs recreationally ITT today?
>In the past, I used to take 3mg of risperidone every day for 1 month
And? How was working by the end of that month?
My point is, you won't get the big picture from a one-off use at work, you'd need it to build-up in your system to check, as treatment plans usually have you be under influence everyday. Unless the plan is to take 10mg Risperidone a few times a month without getting used to it, then a one-off try would be more accurate.

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Hey i need someone who can pecribe stuff to me also i need someone who know military grade stuff, you know stuff that satanic pegofile jews hide from us like cures for cancer (this kind of grade) im mostly interested in stuff that will make me super handsome (now im 7 out of 10) increse my muscle mass like cap america, peptides, something that will cure my anxiety, something that will cure my memmory loss, something that will get rid of my chronicle pain, something that will get rid of my fear and something that will make me wolf of wall streat

>>83967530
I don't know man we just snort pills to numb our feelings.

>>83966785
are you the anon who was dealing to support his addiction?

>>83967530
>Hey i need someone who can pecribe stuff to me also i need someone who know military grade stuff
The best you can do is a private psychiatrist.
The private ones will go above and beyond for you and will prescribe you with things that treat your symptoms, if not, replace them immediately and find someone who hears you in the right way. Sadly no military-grade Jewish cures for cancer, but it's close. They cost a good sum of money, though.

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Anyone tried cbd to thc conversion by heating with clinoptilite? Seems too good to be true.

>>83967835
>Anyone tried cbd to thc conversion by heating with clinoptilite?
Attempting this at home is dangerous. If the temperature isn't controlled perfectly, you can create unknown isomers or burn the Cannabinoids. In other words, it's very difficult to achieve at home and requires lab conditions.
Also, industrial-grade zeolite can contain heavy metals. If not properly cleaned (remediation), those toxins can end up in the final oil.
Hard and dangerous.

Rebooting my shroom grows.
Might scale things up.
Got space for pound scale.
Let's see what we can do.
>>83967835
Define "too good to be true".
Sure it works but it's neither smokable nor precisely measurable so you're almost definitely going to get dysfunctionally sproinked on something that's like a crackhead version of the infamous middle school pot brownie.
If you're a giga broke smack/benzo addict who needs to switch to something cheaper and less dangerous go for it. Otherwise don't bother or learn a method that actually lets you be sure how much of anything you're getting.
>>83967530
Dihexa, Semax, Noopept, DNP, Trenbulone, research each one and everything else that pops up.
You need blood work and constant monitoring of every single metric throughout.
Pick up gymnastics, contemporary dance and kickboxing to boost coordination and muscle control as well as confidence.
>>83966652
Interesting choice, how's it going?
>>83965053
NDRIs can worsen anxiety.

>>83967975
>Rebooting my shroom grows
>Might scale things up
>Got space for pound scale
Share pics? I'm always up for shroom growth pics.
One pound is a lot of shrooms, is that the amount dried?
Are you successful, in general, in growing Magic Mushrooms?
What's the take:contamination ratio you've got?
Is it truely a numbers game, or can you avoid contaminations somehow reliable (clean needles and such)?
How are you starting a colony? Do you use bag kits? If so, which ones are best in your experience?
What growth surface is best? Rice?
Which shroom strain do you grow?
Which shroom strain is best?
Are you seasoned enough to grow Dino-Eggs or truffles successfully?
How long have you been growing shrooms?
How much did you yield from your last grow?
How long does a grow last?
Are you trading excess shrooms for money/drugs?
Pick and choose what to answer, I know it's a lot of questions :p

I know some people have growing mushrooms as a natural cycle in their lives that works like a well-oiled machine from growth to drying and knew a girl on Discord that was a real pro at growing mushrooms. She shared a lot of knowledge and an Amazon list for what she used to monitor humidity and other conditions (such as light) in her growth-box.

Both a humidity control and light timers are simple "set it and forget it" gimmicks that up your growing game by much. Shrooms in better conditions are healthier and contain the most Psilocybin.

Light is a surprising one, since you'd think shrooms grow in the dark (videogame logic), but shrooms grow towards a light source and being exposed to one signals the shroom it's breached soil and is under the "sun" thus need to stop vegetative growth and start fruiting (making mushrooms). You can also set your grow-box on the window sill mid-day to manually expose your shrooms to light. Shrooms grown in total darkness have longer thinner legs and smaller caps. 12 hours on 12 hours off is best.
That's it for my growth suggestions, hehe.

>>83968651
>Pics
Stop glowing.
>Is it truely a numbers game, or can you avoid contaminations somehow reliable (clean needles and such)?
Reliable contamination avoidance is one part clean working two parts foaming at the mouth levels of mycelium Aggression & resilience.
You gotta go

Spore
Agar.
Agar.
Liquid Culture
Fruit.
Agar.
Agar.
Liquid culture.
That way you always have mycelium that enters the Substrat and starts fucking.
What makes things inconsistent is spores, contaminated solution and mycelium that hasn't been refreshed after a few runs.
Cleaner workspaces always help but in an amateur setup you need to be more focused on making sure what goes in is stir-crazy and ready to blast off on first contact.
Another part is water control.
Mycelium is better at verticality than bacteria so what we do is constantly look towards the best possible way to minimize water so bacteria can't swim between nutrient sources.
>Are you trading excess shrooms for money/drugs?
Access. I have low social needs but 3 times a year I might wanna be somewhere loud and chaotic and shroom open those doors.
Plus people who like baking like shrooms. Trading a whole sour cherry chocolate cake for an ounce is good business for both sides.
>Grow surface
Anything except wild bird seed. Grain mix is bad for texture and distribution control. Moment you start having overkooked grain and water hotspots you're getting fucked.
The above text is entirely fictional I do not engage in illicit activity

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I never want opioid withdrawal again. what a shit week.

mdma and ketamine is arriving today, gonna get blasted and listen to gfe asmr

>>83968856
Says every opiate addict lol. I've done it like 5 times now every time never again!! It's not worth it!!! Ahh the agony!!!!!!

Meanwhile I'm currently high on morphine LMAO this shits gonna hurt to kick its boom and bust buddy that's the life of a dopefiend just accept you lot gotta take the lows with the highs and the onky comfort you have, when you're in the deepest most miserable depths of withdrawals, is that you'll be back there again and it's only gonna hurt worse the next time hahaha ha God done fucked us good my boy done us real dirty LMAO

>>83968782
>Stop glowing
It's a sensible ask.
>Spore
>Agar.
>Agar.
>Liquid Culture
>Fruit.
>Agar.
>Agar.
>Liquid culture.
What's the difference between spore and liquid culture?
Also, you substitute rice with especially bought agar? That's cool.
>what we do is constantly look towards the best possible way to minimize water so bacteria can't swim between nutrient sources
Interesting.
>3 times a year I might wanna be somewhere loud and chaotic and shroom open those doors
But you yield much mushrooms, surely you've got a plan for the rest you can't/don't take yourself.
>Plus people who like baking like shrooms. Trading a whole sour cherry chocolate cake for an ounce is good business for both sides
Nice. I did not know that bakers love Psilocybin.
>Grain mix is bad for texture and distribution control
I see so you're not too particular on gtowth surface other than consistancy.
>Moment you start having overkooked grain and water hotspots you're getting fucked
I see I see.
>The above text is entirely fictional I do not engage in illicit activity
Of course, me neither. Pffft. Never.

Thank you for the insightful information.

>>83968856
>I never want opioid withdrawal again
Glad you're through to the other side, welcome back. You know what to do to avoid it again. Plan wisely ahead.
>>83969286
Once you've accepted the cycle of addiction and withdrawal as a fact of life, you fucked up somewhere. Like you said, it's gonna return and harder than before. Why go through this over and over again?
>Meanwhile I'm currently high on morphine LMAO
I advise you to consider future you when making decisions that affect the preasent.
A question: is a single dose enough to prompt you to some kind of withdrawal, or do you binge to reach that level?

>>83969006
>mdma and ketamine is arriving today
A DNM order? Nice. It should be top-tier if it's from a DNM, no?
>gonna get blasted and listen to gfe asmr
On both?
Have fun, anon! I can't watch ASMR because of personal reasons, but GFE ASMR are a type of video that's very, very validating especially when they say stuff like "good job" and so on. It's a form of ugly/ungraceful escape when you think of it, but an effective one.

>>83956554
Hugs >:D<

>>83969006
only time ket wasn't trash for me was in the comedown of mdma and even then it was weird

Am i the only one who watches degenerate porn like piss gangbangs that are like an acrobatics artform, but then feel ashamed once i cum?

>>83969717
how is this drug related

>>83969623
Never heard of using ket to combat MDMA comedowns. Interesting. How was it?

>>83969717
Yes.
>>83969721
Maybe he watches while high.

>>83969783
he does not mention that

>>83969791
I do watch while stoned and huffing poppers. It's bliss and i don't want sex at all.

>>83969778
i just took it randomly as i was coming down
i was able to actually get to the interesting parts of ket without feeling horribly nauseated and puking. probably because i hadn't eaten anything due to rolling. just feeling like i wasn't in reality anymore. was spooky

>>83969916
>without feeling horribly nauseated and puking
Are you snorting it? What happens if you snort it is that it gets mixed up with your phlegm and gets stuck in the back of your throat. I just parachute it now, boofing was too taxing on my asshole.

>>83966091
>How much LSD did you take? Why did Jesus call you a pussy?
one tab i think thats 250ug or something. I don't know he was a bit of a jerk that trip

2FXiPr was a big disappointment. it's so weak. it's probably weaker and shorter acting than ketamine, and i effectively can't take enough to have an interesting experience. as soon as it's done absorbing it just stops. it's as if it gets broken down within 5-10 minutes of absorption.

now i don't know where to get any better dissociatives.

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i wasn't going to go. but my parents made me go to the hospital during my 7oh withdrawal, the hospital said they cant do anything and just treat it like you have the flu they told me to drink Gatorade and shit.. also they gave me a prescription for drugs that make you not itch but can be used for restless leg syndrome and drugs for anti nausea. the drugs they gave did work because my withdrawal sickness went away that same day. i withdrawald for 2 days and also couldn't sleep for 6 nights.

Today I took 10mg of risperidone and felt nothing but sleepiness and a severe headache. I took 3 tablets of 750mg of paracetamol and even then the headache took a long time to go away.
As I had researched before, antipsychotics are not for recreational use, what happened today was merely a confirmation.

>>83971044
>antipsychotics are not for recreational use
brave work in the field anon, godspeed

>>83969916
>was able to actually get to the interesting parts of ket without feeling horribly nauseated and puking
I see, I see. Makes sense.
>just feeling like i wasn't in reality anymore. was spooky
Oh. Well, a dissociative high can surely do that. I've heard Ketamine has a psychedelic side to it on higher doses, but I guess you did a mid dosage.
How did it help with the drip from snorting it? This is my main fear of snorting ket and why I've delayed trying it. Otherwise it's a very interesting chemical. Also psychologically addictive. Heard of people going through 3g of ket in a couple of days. And it causes perma-tolerance, too.

>>83967425
>What's your treatment plan, then?
I think I'll take 2mg every day.
>why not go for benzos?
My tolerance to benzodiazepines is high and I wanted to try something new.
>And? How was working by the end of that month?
I felt exactly the same as before.

>>83969798
>It's bliss and i don't want sex at all
I've heard lots of bad things about Poppers. But they take it in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (the smelling-salt like pouches, real Poppers are a type of heart medication) and they seem to just "wipe" you for a few seconds and that's it. How are Poppers in general? I've had a chance to try them once, but due to all the bad things I've heard, I refused.

>>83970580
>one tab i think thats 250ug or something
I see, I see.
>I don't know he was a bit of a jerk that trip
Maybe it was divine judgement and he declared you a pussy on a spiritual level. It must be true, then. ARE you a pussy? How about on a divine/spiritual level? Or maybe it was your subconscious telling you there are parts of yourself you don't like or think are weak?
Anyway, maybe it's not something to be ignored. Or maybe it is. Idrk.

>>83969791
>>83969798
Well, here you go. Confusion solved. He is stoned and on Poppers while being a degenerate, which is on theme here.

>>83969948
>I just parachute it now
Oral dosage requires much, much more ket to get as high as snorting does. The drip scares me off trying ket, how's swallowing it?

>>83970615
"Current consensus suggests that 2-FXiPr is more potent than Ketamine, requiring a smaller dose to achieve similar dissociative effects."
-Google AI
On paper it's considered longer-acting (up to 3 hours) and more potent (1.5-3 times more potent than Ketamine). Maybe what you got wasn't it and you got duped? Otherwise I can't explain your account. It doesn't match online data.

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>>83971216
Swallowing it isn't terrible. I usually already have the ket dissolved in water for volumetric dosing so I'll usually mix in the desired amount with maybe ~50ml soda and then follow that with a chaser to make sure its all down the hatch.
The really important thing is taking grapefruit as it greatly increases oral bioavailability which is what makes oral ket enjoyable. Night and day difference really.

>>83970888
>the hospital said they cant do anything and just treat it like you have the flu they told me to drink Gatorade and shit
I'd imagine a hospital would treat you with Sunoxone or something to stop the withdrawals symptoms. Such injustices drug users go through in official channels. They SHOULD'VE treated you with Suboxone to stop the withdrawals symptoms. That's basic dignity right there.
>also they gave me a prescription for drugs that make you not itch but can be used for restless leg syndrome and drugs for anti nausea
A pittance. You were goig through fucking Opioid withdrawls.
>i withdrawald for 2 days and also couldn't sleep for 6 nights
I'm sorry to hear that, anon. Glad you're out of it now. Welcome back to the other side.

>>83971269
this is a chemical hardly anyone has done in the first place. it's only been available for like a year. i encountered one other person on bluelight who'd tried it and they had the same opinion as me. it is very weak. weaker than K, which is already weak. it's weaker than 2F-DCK too, which was already very weak.

what i got is definitely dissociative, because i can feel it. and it feels uniquely itself. but it's just extremely weak. it's exactly what i'd expect too based on it's functional groups. it is what it is. it's just not that great, similar to other weak/disappointing dissociatives. some are just better than others for various reasons.

>>83971044
>As I had researched before, antipsychotics are not for recreational use, what happened today was merely a confirmation
Well, I could've told you that. On all accounts APs aren't recreational. They're quite the opposite, actually. They have lots of bad side-effects that are uncomfortable.

>>83971110
>I think I'll take 2mg every day
I see. What did the doctor said, though?
>My tolerance to benzodiazepines is high and I wanted to try something new
Oh, that makes sense then.
>I felt exactly the same as before
And now we know.

>>83971286
>the ket dissolved in water for volumetric dosing
I'll prolly do the same. Dissolve it in a bit of water and take it as a shot, rinse the cup a couple of times, too.
>The really important thing is taking grapefruit as it greatly increases oral bioavailability which is what makes oral ket enjoyable. Night and day difference really
That sucks. I can't eat/drink grapefruit due to XR meds I can't stop taking. A nightand day difference, really? Man.

>>83971318
>this is a chemical hardly anyone has done in the first place
So maybe they faked it to sell it at a mark-up?
>it is very weak. weaker than K, which is already weak
Well, if you two got it from the same source it could explain it. In theory it should be the opposite of what you've experienced.
>some are just better than others for various reasons
Yeah, I can imagine.
I still think it's very possible you got conned and didn't get the chemical you were believing you're getting. By all accounts it shouldn't have been this disappointing.

>>83971417
many people say they like deschloroketamine. one of my friends said he felt amazing on it. but i hated it. and we used the exact same bag. he enjoyed it every time, but it made me feel sick. how come it didn't affect him that way? i don't think it's that simple. additionally, i'm not at all convinced anyone claiming to have data on 2FXiPr has accurate data or that it's even real in the first place. everything i've ever ordered from this vendor was exactly what it was claimed to be with perfect purity (the deschloroK came from somewhere else but i was just making a point)

Guys there's so many drugs with a long history of at least moderately safe use, known dosages, etc - why are you being guinea pigs for Chinese alphabet soup drugs?

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>>83956533
coke addict here, you literlly described my family, also only child, I cant stop keep chasing that first time in home, but i cant when i am outside i feel the effects of all the drugs, the only method i have to feel the effects of stimulants is taking pregab or alcohol and benzos in a high quantity, but in general home is like a prision

>>83958742
>Best high
First time I took like 900mg pregabalin, comfied out and cuddled the girl that gave em to me with vivid close eye hallucinations of a golden wheat field
Never been more comfy ever
>Went to a /soc new year party offa coke and Molly and a bunch of drinks and almost blew my hand up with a cobra firework, there were femboys in maid outfits too
>Molly and 2cb, grabbed a sword and found the corner of the map and just camped untill the trip stopped, apparently I threatened to kill a dudes dog but I'd never do that, but I was scaring people who in turn were scaring me

>>83971629
you're a guinea pig for anything you're buying. you're not getting a serious lab test done. you're just another retard putting chemicals he can't identify in his body.

>>83971128
It's bliss and if you're already stoned then it's bliss on the power of bliss.
It gives yoy a few second high, but you have to huff it as you're edging and about to cum.

>>83971624
>e of my friends said he felt amazing on it. but i hated it
I see.
>how come it didn't affect him that way?
Different people react dicferently to substances.
>i'm not at all convinced anyone claiming to have data on 2FXiPr has accurate data or that it's even real in the first place
Fair enough. Clinical data is very limited. On paper it's as I said, but in the field it can be totally different.
>everything i've ever ordered from this vendor was exactly what it was claimed to be with perfect purity
Hard to argue with that. Then maybe you have perma-tolerance, or a mutation, or otherwise react different in some way. That is the sensible explanation. Cause you should've had a good time.

>>83971721
>It's bliss and if you're already stoned then it's bliss on the power of bliss
Bit how does it work? Is it like I said, "wipes" you for a few seconds? Other effect?
>you have to huff it as you're edging and about to cum
Of course, timing such a short high is key to making the most out of your drug. I like long-acting drugs and can't smoke weed due to psychosis. So it seems not in my alley to use Poppers, but I'm still curious. Is it true that your asshole comes loose when using them?

>>83971629
>why are you being guinea pigs for Chinese alphabet soup drugs?
RCs are cheap and legal in some places in the world without a blanket ban on analogues and derivatives (like we have in my country). They're also as strong or stronger and longer-lasting than normal drugs with a similar chemical structure.

However you put it, RCs are a fan-favorite across all drug communities and people will use them despite not having access to a lot of clinical data in humans. In most cases you can be pretty sure how a drug will react according to its chemical structure and similarities to other, more tested drugs. Therefore it's considered relatively safe to use them.

It's not all that safe, of course, and a certain risk of an unknown reaction is always preasent. In other words, it's better letting other people try it first before digging in yourself. But the cheap prices and safety of purchase and use are the leading factors in RC use. I've heard you can buy Pregabalin powder in bulk from China for very cheap, as well, though idk where from exactly. Just some things that go through this thread in passing, I've never tried an RC in my life and am not planning to, either.

>>83971644
You aren't very coherent right now. I couldn't really grasp what you were trying to say all at once.

>>83971666
>comfied out and cuddled the girl that gave em to me with vivid close eye hallucinations of a golden wheat field
>Never been more comfy ever
Sound very nice. I've felt very good on a lot of Pregabalin recently (16g with some benzos). Was very euphoric, but despite the large dose, I've had no hallucinations. Open-eye or closed-eye.
>almost blew my hand up with a cobra firework, there were femboys in maid outfits too
Sounds wild.
>apparently I threatened to kill a dudes dog but I'd never do that, but I was scaring people who in turn were scaring me
We all did something odd on drugs at one time or another. Don't sweat it!

>>83971669
>you're a guinea pig for anything you're buying. you're not getting a serious lab test done. you're just another retard putting chemicals he can't identify in his body
That's true, I guess. I mean, the shape, color, and texture of a drug can tell you what it is likely to be. With some context from the dealer you can eliminate some possibilities or declare them as unlikely. Also depends on how trustworthy your supplier is. But yeah, unless you thoroughly test it with reagents and/or a lab test, you don't really know what you're ingesting. In a way it's like you're a guinea pig, I suppose. Just in a very large pool of test subjects (all the supplier's costumers).

ounce of mdma for 120 cad mmm
i might get it tested for purity but tonight im just trying ~150mg oral and if it doesnt hit ill send it to a lab

>>83971863
what I'am saying that my mom is like that, a fucking maniac that dont even like that i drink a beer, that and my dad just is right there existing but dont express any emotion at all, so I borned in a no emotional enviroment, i borned in a robotic enviroment, so when i try to crack that enviroment, my parnents get mad, I know i do hard drugs, but i think that kind of enviroment, I encourage that kind of behavior

>>83971629
>>83971897
because you can't just buy PCP. ketamine simply isn't like PCP analogs. the PCP and PCE analogs i've done (MXE is a PCE analog) were unquestionably the best dissociatives i've ever done. it is very difficult to obtain these. they seem to be the hardest drug class to obtain. i don't know why. they're a lot of fun. everyone loved MXE, so why are they all so difficult to get compared to the tons of stimulants available?

>>83971994
Well seems like it isn't very pure or I dosed it wrong. The crystal looks good but I'm just a user so I can't really tell. Probably just gonna redose 300mg

>>83972278
>why are they all so difficult to get compared to the tons of stimulants available?
Stims are understandably more popular than dissociatives because dissos are niche drugs and stims have positive effects out of every hole. They're more fun to do simply by the way they act on the body. I hope you'll be able to get your PCP/PCP analogues.

>>83972228
>so I borned in a no emotional enviroment, i borned in a robotic enviroment
I see what you mean. I'm sorry, fwiw.
>when i try to crack that enviroment, my parnents get mad
Maybe try to do it in secret? I lived with my mom up until 4(ish) years ago and have always had a locked door to my room. Privacy is a very basic need and you deserve it.
>I encourage that kind of behavior
Doing hard drugs? Maybe keep an eye on your use instead of blindly encourage it. Idk, that's what I got out of it.

>>83972333
>Well seems like it isn't very pure or I dosed it wrong
More likely unpure. There are just so many ways to swallow something. Maybe you weighed it wrong, could be.
>Probably just gonna redose 300mg
300mg is a lot. Maybe try 180mg first? (The highest dose of MDMA that's safe according to studies) Then if that doesn't work try 230mg, then 280mg and increase in 50mg as needed. You shouldn't need that much if what you have is real MDMA. Maybe really send it to a lab, just in case?
Soumds better than dosing dangerously high cause it doesn't work right.

>>83971099
i don't see the big deal about "the drip"
it happens only sometimes and it's a bit uncomfortable but so is snorting in general
unless i don't really know what drip means

>>83971099
>>83972677
just do it rectally, dissolved in water. it works better anyway. i originally did this with all my PCP analogs because they burn like hell if you snort them, and will eventually make your nose bleed. no idea why they're so caustic. PCEs and PCMs (and i guess also PCiPrs) aren't caustic like PCPs.

but now i just use most drugs i would've snorted, rectally, because i've realized i can just avoid the drip and nasal discomfort forever this way.

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>>83972478
>300mg is a lot
It's definitely a lot but I've found when doing redosing MDMA I've gotta double the dosage and it seems to have worked again. Probably a bit overdose, I'm grinding my teeth a bit and my vision sometimes spergs out but nothing I'm not used to

>>83972757
>it seems to have worked again
You mean to say you've already redosed 300mg and it worked? Huh...
>Probably a bit overdose, I'm grinding my teeth a bit and my vision sometimes spergs out but nothing I'm not used to
Yeah, I'd imagine 300mg IS a bit of an overdose. So long as you're not badly uncomfortable,
I guess it's fine. Yay, it's working!

>>83972677
>it's a bit uncomfortable but so is snorting in general
That's why I don't do it... it seems painful and nauseating. I thought you get a drip everytime you snort a line, not just sometimes.

>>83972871
nausea comes after when the ket is in your system
i would say the initial snorting is the most uncomfortable part, and then later maybe you get some in the back of your throat but that's less the problem
being sick to your stomach while you can barely walk around and dissociating is the worst

>>83972740
>just do it rectally, dissolved in water. it works better anyway
I'm trying not to boof drugs unless I really have to. Don't feel comfortable messing around with that.
Also don't have the tools I'd need on hand and will have to get them. Oral seems like the best ROA for me.
>PCEs and PCMs (and i guess also PCiPrs) aren't caustic like PCPs
I see. Interesting. Wonder why that is. I've had no intention on snorting or boofing any PCPs anytime soon, anyway.
>now i just use most drugs i would've snorted, rectally, because i've realized i can just avoid the drip and nasal discomfort forever this way
As long as it works for you. I'm warry of boofing.
And snorting. Swallowing is just the perfect midway although I'm prolly gonna try snorting ket at least once, I think.

>>83972888
>nausea comes after when the ket is in your system
I see! Isn't the drip cause this also by dripping chemicals down your throat?
>i would say the initial snorting is the most uncomfortable part
I'd guess you need to get used to it first. And it helps that the powder is very finely smashed/cut as well, I imagine.
>being sick to your stomach while you can barely walk around and dissociating is the worst
I fear feeling sick and it ruining the already short high. I can picture it's really uncmfortable to feel sick while high.

>>83972917
>Isn't the drip cause this also by dripping chemicals down your throat?
I dunno. it's just uncomfortable but i never thought that's what causes nausea. maybe i'm wrong
>I'd guess you need to get used to it first. And it helps that the powder is very finely smashed/cut as well, I imagine.
i've done it a bunch of times and it doesn't get better, in fact the last time i had an even harder time snorting. i try to crush it as best as i can but i guess there will always be some sharp crystals left in there

>>83973014
>i guess there will always be some sharp crystals left in there
Hmmm. Looks better and less painful to snort than Meth powder. My guy has real fine powder from what I'm told. Real easy to snort, or supposed to be, at least. I guess we'll see when I decide I've waited enough and need to see what's ket all about. It's like I say, the worst thing about doing drugs is actually doing them. It's always uncomfortable.

>>83973036
I had an issue with a Lyrica dealer telling me he'll delicer at night. Then at night he tells me he'll deliver the next day. Message him all of next day, eventually he tells me he'll deliver the next day. Gave up and got more Lyrica for cheaper from another dude. He also made me wait 'til night time, but actually delivered that day.
"Not confirming the time" is a valid reason, not answering your texts isn't as valid.

Did 150mg Meth today. Meaning I dosed 3 times in the span of 12-18 hours. I think this is a good place to stop cutting back unless I want to do doses of 20mg instead 50mg. But I think this is the sweetspot for me. Man, the journey from 500mg a session looks so long. I made it.

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im that retarded 110lb white girl from the last thread who was gonna shoot h. well i got it, did it, and was extremely underwhelmed. i guess i purchased a shitty batch..!?
i drank it as hot chocolate at first and liked it more like that, weirdly.
also weird: heroin gives me a lazy eye