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This AI loli is really creepy and weird looking

>>12002921
it's not AI you tard

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>>12002921
I agree..

>>12002911
whys that child have pubes

>>12002939
beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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>>12002931
Her hands fingernails and arms are all fucked up
plus the shading is all over the place which makes it look a bit messy
pretty sure it is AI

>>12002947
the image was made before ai was good im pretty sure and the errors it has are not the typical errors that ai makes

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>>12002931
Okay I don't give a shit that the AI detector I used said 2% look at this hand
You cannot convince me this hand is not AI, there is definitely a non-AI detector filter or trickery afoot

>>12002952
i can see an artist drawing fingernails like that
if ai had drawn those fingernails they would be more swirly and splotchy as opposed to the clean lines used in the picture

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>>12002952
Yup thats AI you can't fool me OP

>>12002952
AI hands would be way more f'd
And Im no artist but drawing and actuating hands is probably hard

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>>12002960
As an artist, drawing hands is a pain in the ass but her fingernails have literal cracks in them
Any other artist would revise the piece for any mistakes and correct them especially one so noticable
This is obviously AI

>>12002960
thats AI fam
AI hands have come a long way, but you can still tell by the scuffed fingernails

>>12002958
These lines are not clean I will just say that. I do art and these bells are ding ding dinging.

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>>12002939
because she's a middle schooler

Universally shit "artists" raging seething badly coping and nitpicking tiny things about AI because what it generates is better than anything they will ever make more and more every day is the gift that keeps giving.

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>>12003174
any art made by a human is better than all the 'art' made by a computer. computers don't have souls, they don't have emotions they want to communicate through their art. it's like muzak or corporate advertisements designed by committee to be unchallenging and easy to digest

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>>12003174
AI doesn’t make anything new. It takes previously made images to make its art. Many of such images were made by talented artists who actually trained for years, maybe even decades, to get where they are. And then someone takes their work and puts it through some program and claim the new art as their’s

>>12003177
>>12003183
It is a tool for making art, and real artists use it when they feel like it feeling completely unthreatened by it because to real artists it is yet another way to make art.

For people that can't made art it is fun and can get them interested in art.

Everyone seething dooming and shitting on others for enjoying it suck and deserve the hell that is their own making.

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>>12003188
as an artist why would i let the computer steal the fun of creating something for myself? also, everyone can make art, that's something you don't understand because you only conceptualize art as a product for you to consume. the reason people make art- professionally, as a hobby, in the margins of their notebooks- is because making things is fun and rewarding

>>12003188
AI should be used as a tool to improve certain aspects of animation or art, not as a whole replacement.

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>>12002911
Wtf

>>12003188
Yep. I'll never get why other artists just don't enjoy it.

>>12003222
it's like junk food: fast, easy to consume, low in nutritional value, and all designed to make as much money as possible. it's the final boss of art as a capitalist enterprise

>>12003225
Well I've never looked to make money off my art (or in general with anything really), maybe that monetary connection is the piece I'm missing that gets people so worked up.

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>>12003228
if you're the person making the art, why would you want to turn over creative agency to a robot without emotions? don't you enjoy the process of making art?

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>>12003229
I do, I also like the chaos of AI sometimes and the absolutely wacky chaotic things it comes up with/does. Also training your own models off your own art is a whole different level of creative process I've never experienced before it melds well with my programming and tech side too, a combination of interests. Really I've loved it since the deep dream ages and this piece.

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>>12003233
i don't know. to me, wacky chaotic art is fun because i try to imagine what was going through the artist's mind when they were painting it. with a computer i know that there's nothing going through their mind, they're just hallucinating an image in random noise. training a model on your own art is more respectable than those models trained on stolen artwork, but at that point, why would you not just draw the art yourself? i like absurdist art a lot because i know, no matter how random the piece looks, a person had to place all of the disparate objects in the scene and that they were communicating something in doing so. idk. i like programming and technology too, but i prefer ai implementations like gaussian splatting, which is basically just asking a computer to find the local minimum of a 6th dimensional function or whatever

>>12003238
Right, you see, but when you train the model, you're literally training it with your own art (though one of the things people hate is when they train it with other peoples) and that mind is what created the potential for the AI art, you then work on that output, maybe even put it back into the model. It really does have that initial mind and you can work with that random noise too, injecting your own self made seeds.

I guess from an old analogue example it is a little like making tie dye shirts, you create the medium oil water dyes, you choose the fabric, you choose where the rubber bands go, you choose how long you want to soak it. You can be there every step of the way it and it is engaging creative and fun. Not to say everyone does this or even considers doing it, but I bet they'd have a blast if they did.

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>>12003250
i dont' know. even if your use of ai is defensible, the vast, vast majority of ai 'art' is used to trick octogenarians on facebook with veterans holding signs that say 'ist' m birhtday' or to give guys custom porn of any anine character they can think of. not to mention the big brands who love ai 'art' because it lets them fire pesky artists who they need to pay for their work

The only problem with AI art is that it mostly looks indeterminate and ugly. There is no ethical argument against AI art which cannot also be levelled against hand-drawn art.

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>>12003257
there are a lot of arguments against the effect that ai 'art' has on the culture though

>>12002931
Catfish confirmed a soulless moron
No wonder you hate Doremi and Skovmoj

>>12003262
If your 'art' is so repetitive and unchallenging that an algorithmic machine can equal you in purely aesthetic function, then, I have bad news for you, and the news is about you and your culture and not the machine working with the culture.

I've never seen an AI make any remotely good abstract or symbolic art. But AI does make some pretty great custom anime porn. So who is culturally redundant? The artist or the machine?

As an artist I have never personally felt that AI poses an existential threat to me. Any ethical problems with generative art is only an amplification of the culture it draws from.

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>>12003273
ai 'art' doesn't draw solely on culture as it exists. since ai 'art' is so often used by companies, it is a metaphorical bludgeon that corporations can deploy to beat culture into a shape that better suits them by sheer force of volume

>>12003278
Where are the companies saturating the market with a "sheer volume" of new graphics? Have you suddenly started seeing ten times the ads and billboards, or hundreds of more company sponsored-videos all made with AI?

The graphical outlets of companies have remained the same. And you would be wrong to think that the aesthetic appeal of corporate art has degraded in any way with AI. It has always been a vehicle for exploitation, and AI only streamlines the process. You brought up muzak earlier, which is a strange analogy since when has muzak ever stifled musical expression? Yes companies using AI comes at the expense of artist's welfare probably, but that's an issue rooted in the nature of private companies and not AI.

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>>12003284
if you admit that private companies are a problem, why are you so averse to saying that ai 'art' is one of the manifestations of that problem

>>12003291
I wasn't averse to it. Read my post please:
>Any ethical problems with generative art is only an amplification of the culture it draws from.

My point is that this crusading against AI which so many 'artists' like to drill into others represents to me a generation of workers on the cusp of class consciousness, but who are so loathe to think that their own art might be in fact algorithmic and insipid that they choose to rally against AI instead of the root problem. The more these 'artists' campaign against AI the faster they will dissolve into social irrelevancy.

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>>12003250
>Right, you see, but when you train the model, you're literally training it with your own art
Right, but this is the fucking problem King's.
It is MADE entirely off of STOLEN ART
It is immoral to use it because no artist in it consented to use it. It should be gutted and people can remake it with art they created or from consenting artists.

It is like the fucking philosopher's stone from FMA. Sure it can do virtually anything but will you just happily take and use one knowing it was created by genociding a group of people?

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I don't give a shit about the lowercase argument going on in this thread but Takagi is cude.

>>12002911
dubs + coffee is good for your liver

>>12002911
I want to smell her respectfully

>>12004087
I didn't know this, it makes sense though I drink as much coffee as I do alcohol (A LOT), am old and my liver is in perfect shape. Dr. actually didn't believe I drank as much as I said looking at it and my blood work.

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>>12003177
i hate how everything is politically bifurcated. leftists have to hate AI and rightists have to love it. leftists have to worry about climate change and rightists have to believe it isn't real. leftists have to praise vaccines and rightists have to hate them

you rarely find someone who differs from the template for their side on any issue. thankfully i am an unironically enlightened centrist with a wide distribution of positions

(ok not really, i am a techno-optimist progressive neoliberal so my positions match that template)

post more of the cunny

>>12004888
again, i'm not a leftist, i don't like vaccines or socialism or other lefty things. you claim to be an enlightened centrist, but you're the one who's imposing political labels on to people

>>12004888
Once you ascend from centrist and realize literally all politics are forced completely false abstractions to keep the cattle butting heads with each other you'll be better off

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Op close you pedo shit