Is being gay definitely natural?>it's been observed in other animals!Never in my life have I seen gay dogs or cats. Do I really trust "papers" published in the past century?>kids from good non-abusing families can grow up to be gay!Yes so that means something else caused it.>there's no such thing as a gay gene!Exactly
>>16144926Being hate filled isnt a choice.But being born evil is.
>>16144926>Never in my life have I seen gay dogs or cats. Do I really trust "papers" published in the past century?So your anecdotal evidence is enough for something to be deemed Unnatural?>Yes so that means something else caused it.For homosexuality, we have no idea what exactly causes it. The line of arguement that it is unnatural was always strange to me, it's trying to use science as an objective moral standard for a human behaviour. There is nothing natural about the world, there is no pre-written traditional lifestyle that one is required to follow (although you may believe in such) Pacers arent natural, prosthetic kneecaps aren't natural, cataract surgery isn't natural, everything that makes us different from animals is not natural. Even if we say that there are certain good things that are best followed by humans that are "natural", I don't understand why some cunt pursuing their innate desire for the same sex is bothering you. You're allowed to hate gay people, but trying to argue from a naturalistic standpoint will just make you a retard, just say that it's weird for you to see other people doing something you don't understand, that's fine.
>>16144926>Never in my life have I seen gay dogs or cats.It doesn't matter what you have seen or not anon. I've seen countless gay acts among animals, but I've been alive for many decades now.
brb gonna find some animal larger than me and attempt to have sex with its leg, it's only natural
>>16144939/thread
>>16144981How is this comparable to homosexuality?
>>16144926No, it's a degenerate sexual fetish
>>16144926it depends on what you mean by naturalit's not a thing you are born with or that you can inherit. that's for sure
>>16144926if it was a choice, gaydars wouldn't be a thing
>>16144926these days its considered an identity instead of something one does, im sure humans in all ages got their rocks off on whhp2tatever
>>16144939>So your anecdotal evidence is enough for something to be deemed Unnatural?My anecdotal evidence > your papers. I trust my eyes more.
>>16144926A male cat in heat will fuck everything it can get its dick into, including the asshole of other male cats.natural? possibly. should be encouraged and normalized? no, not ever.
>a naturally occurring phenomenon is not natural!>t. fucking retard
>>16145303If you trust your eyes, and your eyes see gay shit everywhere, then your eyes are gay and shit.QED Mr Queer Eye.
>>16144926>Is being gay definitely natural?No, 99% of Gay men can trace it back to someone in their youth abusing them.
the real question is whether it's moral. the answer is no
Fuck no what the hellHow is this even a question?
>>16144926>Never in my life have I seen gay dogs or cats.I work with dogs and I can assure you that male dogs try to fuck other male dogs all the time lol
>>16144926if gay is based on identity then it isn't natural since identities are social constructions. if a biological male identifying as a male is attracted to a biological male identifying as a female, and identity is by word alone, not physical characteristics, and that attraction i mentioned between those two people is classified as 'straight' by lgbtqia+ people, then that's all you need to know that gayness isn't natural and is a social construction.
>>16145874>99% of Gay men can trace it back to someone in their youth abusing them.Where does that number come from? Did you make it up?
>>16145901>the real question is whether it's moral. the answer is noSource?
>>16146221Yes. They did. Gay men report lower abuse rates than even straight men. It's women and bisexuals that report all the abuse.Maybe abuse turns you straight?
>>16144926When we have a horse that we would put to stud, but the market's dry, we sometimes bring a male donkey or mule to serve as his mare, as the law of nature is "use it or lose it". The stallion doesn't know any better or doesn't care the difference. I hope that answers your question.
>>16145901how does 2 niggas kissing hurt anyone?
>>16144926being gay is pretty gay
>>16144932That didn't make sense at all.
>>16144926Everything in nature is ”natural”. It’s a completely meaningless term. Arsenic is natural, savage murder is natural, cannibalism is natural, beheading people is natural.The real question is:>Is it genetically fit to be a homosexual?And the answer is no. It’s a defect just like being blind is. Is it natural to be blind? Yea, but it’s still a defect.
>>16146455Well they rape kids too so that hurts someone
>>16146721And they also make annoying posts on 4chan/sci pretending to be straight, moaning at themselves.
>>16146722Yep, they’re a net negative for society overall, I’d say
>>16144939that was the gayest bullshit I've ever read
>>16144932kek>>16146701fuckin retard
>>16145140>it's not a thing you are born with or that you can inheritlegit question then, how does the environment make you gay?also consider that they found the sexual neural network in rat brains. if they stimulate it a certain way the mice turn homosexual. couldn't there be some misfiring issues in the brain of a homosexual? and what is the scientific freedom of working on such research considering politics and all that?
>>16144939>>16144926Its unnatural since its against the purpose of the organs, the intestines are not a sexual organ.The consequences is that gays while being a tiny minority are 83% of syphilis cases, most of hiv, 99% of monkeypox, most of anal cancer, and it goes on and on. Its a biohazard, bad for societies, which is why it was always a shunned behavior.Also no one is born intestine attracted, on the contrary, by default everyone is disgusted by all things intestine related. Perversions are spread through exposure. For example, constant exposure through porn made men want to sodomise their women. Sexuality/sex is that which drives the union of the male and female gametes, everything else is paraphilia/perversion.
>>16146701THEN WHY AM I LIKE THIS?!?!
>>16144926>gay >straight>homosexual>heterosexualAll social constructs. Animals don't have words for these human concepts and they much less abide by them. Dogs horses donkeys hump and mount whatever they want in the moment. Dogs fuck pillows and human legs ffs. Being attracted to an attractive person isn't a revolutionary thing.
>>16146802>All social constructs.Language is a social construct, so why are you using it? (you're a tranny btw)
>>16146757This just in:- Holding hands and kissing confirmed to be perversion. - Rape and paedophilia considered natural and good so long as a man is fucking a woman who has eggs ready. more at 11