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>creating a new thread instead of merging Stupid nigger
starliner sure is ugly on the inside
>>16163547theres already an /sfg/ you stupid drug addict
>>16163547aha this fucking schizo staged early JUST so he could be the one that made it
How many more decades before Nuclear Thermal Engines get used on actual missions?
Eurofag here just woke up, what happened to Starliner?
>>16163633someone clogged it's toilet and they couldn't unclog in time
>>16163633door fell off
>stage at page 2spam thread all fields
soon
>>16163633Crew committed suicide
>>16163699Where is that
>>16163547too many pipes
>>16163712Desert in Chile I think
https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1787577733330977196
https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1787577984385187902>The Rocket Launchers of the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley got to tour Starbase this past Saturday... Lucky!that middle one looks a bit sus
Thanks for staging OP. I had pushed a few threads up but fell asleep before making a new thread.
Joe Tegtmeyer went on a tour of the Boring Companys Bastrop facility, its on the other side of the road of a new Starlink factory. Apparently the rapid protyping they do with the boring machine uses the same philosophies as Starship prototyping does, but not sure if they actually talk about some space versions of these boring machines (the videos will be released in 2h)>- Joe Tegtmeyer took a tour of the Boring Company's Bastrop facility last week and has put out a 2-part series on what he learned and experienced.>Part 1 discusses the site and explores many of the facilities, functions and developments that are on-going here.>In Part 2, we look around the Giga Texas site and the current plans for two tunnels. He also discuss some of the design and production of new boring machines, and how this work parallels SpaceX and Starship prototype testing and development... I told you they were working on a prototype for the Moon and Mars.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV07jqwCy0A>Boring Company Tour Part 1 ... Innovation, First-Principles, TBM Production & Progress!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oXlNIsxQTM>Boring Company Tour Part 2 ... Giga Texas Plans, TBM Design & Iteration, New Boring Machines & More!
New interview from Musk, looking at the timestamps it seems there will be exactly 0 new information, not sure if I'm going to bother watching it at allmaybe if someone else does they can say if there is anything newhttps://twitter.com/MuskBreaking/status/1787676846298997138
>>16163766I would say not spaceflight, but considering they are supposed to be making some hardware for Mars tunneling and they are right next to that Starlink facility if kind of is. You are really pushing it here though
>>16163761>all the women are attractive>all the guys are ugly nerdsexplain
>>16163773>all the women are attractive[X] doubt
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787654693617016965
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787766958936686738
SPEHS
>>16163747Best part is no part
>>16163778it's 20 fucking 24 and they still haven't figured out how to make reliable valves? Might I recommend to them of the shelf mass produced brass ball valves? I have a few of those and they've been serving me well for decades.
>>16163547>Rocketlab: stock is down 80%>Virgin Galactic: useless, stock is down 90%>Virgin Orbit: DOA>SpaceX: hanging on by a thread, no meaningful revenue, no successful flights of “StarShip”, terrible mission architecture >SpinLaunch: dead>Relativity Space: cancelled their first rocket after it failed. Not they’re extorting investors for even more money.>ULA: only success so far
>>16163799>SpinLaunch: deaddisagree.
>>16163799Now that I really start paying attention, what happened to this website.Even the bait used to be better, this is 9gag level trash.
>>16163796the problem is cryogenic temperatures
>>16163783Doesnt Lula hate his fucking guts? I thought he already banned Starlink or something
>>16163761More interested in that HLS prototype on the right... when do you bros think they will put out a tour video of it? 2025? 2026?
>>16163801It’s been two years and they haven’t launched anything.https://www.space.com/spinlaunch-aces-10th-suborbital-test-launch>>16163804Do you think SpaceX is going to Mars by 2926?
>>16163809I think Musk or Everyday Astronaut said they might do one when Starfactory is finishedso by the end of the year maybe?
>>16163807Can't, starlink is used by a bunch of schools in remote regions of the Amazon, breaking with It would be a PR shitshow for a government that is on thin ice
Why are there two /sfg/ threads up?
>>16163822We split because the other OP was ass, both of them were past bump limit (important), this thread lineage had more interaction, the other thread is also a containment thread see picrel and as such this one also had higher quality info and interactions while also being more active. None of that matters because what matters is it staged at page 10. If you dont like this thread you can go use the other one. Let this be the last mention of the other thread in /sfg/ and we can all move on here.
>>16163833>None of that matters because what matters is it staged at page 10.it was page 2 and you were shitting yourself over the fact you might not be able to make the next thread(the only thing you have in your life)
>>16163836I didnt make this thread.
>>16163840you know who else would say that?the op
So /sfg/, are you ready for the S30 static fire today?
>>16163836no it wasn't, that other abortion of a thread has been going on at the same timethe actual thread didn't stage at page 2 >>16160382
>>16163841its pretty simple to follow the norm for staging, why not just do that?
>>16163844>the norm>IS THAT A SPACE?!>NUKE THE BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>16163847yes
Can we all wrap this up? Id like to go back to how the previous thread was. Ill bring us some news hold on
https://x.com/vickicocks15/status/1787777626456625503S26 is apparantly not kill for some reason...?
Hi, I really wish the janny would nuke all of your stupid threads.
>>16163853>flame trench. Ii will be laughing when they install a flame trench under the actual olm finally, since autists on here have been so defensive about how they dont need a flame trench.
>>16163853so they are using it to test non-flight related stuff I guess?
https://x.com/wapodavenport/status/1787710384910020782ULA update, Friday the earliest it seems.
>>16163851>can we all just forget how i am a schizo that thread splits if i don't get my way?
>>16163857
>>16163856Well no of course at some point they will be doing real ships and boosters that willy fly its just right now since its new hardware they want to use an expendable ship instead in case anything goes wrong.>>16163859Thanks anon, I had an oopsy daises there.
Op is a transexual janny nigger
>>16163869So?
>>16163766Boring company is boringwho would have thought?I'm just not interested in small holes.
>>16163833>both of them were past bump limit (important),you're lying.
>>16163833Nigger and a liar what a surprise
>>16163833calm down anon, you've already btfo'd him by outperforming his thread. You didn't need to ground your heel into his face by refusing to reuse his. Now you've mindbroken him, and /sfg/ will suffer for it.
>>16163766>5. Long term vision of off-world tunneling shapes design choices
https://x.com/stoke_space/status/1787828982462751015Oh shit new Stoke update
In other news, everyone is ignoring that china space agency just debuted a new rocket. (although, reading more about it, it seems like it's really just a new configuration).
>>16163904lots of new space launchers might be coming online at the same timeRocketLab Neutron, Relativity Space Terran R, Stoke Space Nova, Blue Origin New Glenn (though you could argue they are culturally old space)
>>16163554pretty obviously either a discord trying to control the discourse or the space board fag
>>16163906CZ-6C is arguably different enough from CZ-6A to qualify as a different rocket. The difference is not just a lack of side boosters. CZ-6C's first stage is shorter, and CZ-6C's upper stage is 2.9m diameter instead of CZ-6A's 3.35m diameter.
>>16163923>>16163906lets all clap for the stupoid chinks downgrading their rocket by accident. i hate chinks so much its unreal.
>>16163935I mean, at least it's kerolox instead of UDMH+RFNA. Now if it crashes on a village the casualties will be significantly lower.
How did it go?
>>16163633I wouldn't worry about it
>>16163935CZ-6A and 6C are optimized for different classes of payloads. 6C is cheaper because it doesn't use the 4 SRBs>>16163938Another improvement is that 6C only uses 3 engines whereas 4C uses 7 engines (plus verniers)
>>16163950it was worth the weight
>>16163910Only one of these is fully reusable and only one of these will survive a Starship future.
>>16163946Scrubbed, LOX valve problems.Many anons suspect SpaceX sabotage ops are responsible.
>>16163906Also interesting is that CASC in the CZ-6C promo video hinted at new what the new generation rockets they have planned will look like
>>16163956so you're saying SpaceX has an agent inside ULA???
>reading about how its impossible to use entanglement for ftl communications>no one actually refutes it, they just get mad and handwave it away with answers that never say its impossibleso its possible but they want to keep it hush hush until they come up with a workable solution that they can then monetize
>>16163959Forgot linkhttps://weibo.com/5386897742/Odb7yE4de
>>16163960Yes, and/or a sniper team in the vicinity. We know SpaceX operates an old gun range and has a corps of ninja, it's not just possible: it's likely.
>>16163959cool, would really like to see someone else do reusable rockets.
I didnt realize this but Berger finally cucked out and bought blue check kek
>>16163967Also Combs is still seething from when he got group btfod yesterday and changing the topic.
>>16163967he bent the knee then. He is not an independent journalist anymore.
speaking of valves freezing. how will spacex prevent that if they have to purge the starship tanks with hot water after every launch? (they have to do that with the current design to get rid of the water ice which builds up in the tanks)
retard here, Why can't the spin the valve even if there is some ice in there?
>>16163967>>16163970This is the OP btw. He thinks anyone cares about twitter drama.
>>16163981Maybe lower the internal pressure instead or something so it melts away, not really sure desu. Wish I knew more but I havent taken thermo or fluid dynamics yet.
>>16163981>three layers of inferenceWhat makes you think that the preburner gas speculation is correct?What makes you think they couldn't just let it melt and drain out the bottom were it correct?
>>16163985some spitter (space twitter) fags are trying to hijack the fucking thread, huh?remember that time we figured out who the crystalfag was?
>>16163995yeah, impressive stuff.
>>16163990>What makes you think that the preburner gas speculation is correct?Spacegoy5 says so (he doesnt outright say it because he's not allowed to, but he nods that it's true), and he is uniroinically a good source despite being deranged, because he works on HLS and doesn't have reason to make up falsehoods since he could lose his job. One thing we know for sure is that raptors have failed on every flight, so you have to come up with a reason why if the preburner thing isnt real.>What makes you think they couldn't just let it melt and drain out the bottom were it correct?Rapid reusability.
Can you take your drama to the other thread? Nobody cares. You apparantly hate this thread so stop using it
>>16164002>raptors have failed on every flightFor flights 2 and 3, where did this happen? On the way up they were fine but is it like during staging they exploded on flight 2 and on flight 3 they didnt orient the ship correctly or something?
>>16164003idiot, you just don't get it, do you?
Boeing assassins & ULA snipers >>> spacex ninjas
>>16164010SpaceX ninjas have not done much so far. What is Elon paying them for??
>>16164007For flight 2 the booster exploded shortly after separation due to raptor failure. The fluid hammer schizo proved to be incorrect.For flight 3 the booster cut its engines before completing boostback because some failed. There was a clear energetic event at the back of the booster. Then only a tiny raction relit on the landing burn, so its safe to say there was a problem. The ship also had an energetic event at the back on engine shutdown which caused the uncontrolled spin. The hot gas thrusters were also likely clogged by water ice which is why they didnt fire at all, or maybe the energetic event vented all the fuel into space.
Glass going up on Starfactory. Its gettin closer and closer bros.
>>16164023Ah I see. Thank you for informing me. I guess it isnt as reliable as I thought.. still a good thing that everything up to stage separation is good now.
https://x.com/int_machines/status/1787845786916528621Some news on IM-2, it seems like development is starting to ramp up again though being only at the tanks means its going to be a whiiile
>>16164024closer to what?
>>16164030The finishing of Starfactory and the ensuing mega ramp up in production of Starship. How did you have trouble following that?
about that office space being built in starbase, are they relocating people from california?
>>16163967if someone has 2.5k verified followers they get premium and the checkmark for free
>>16164033theyre relocating niggers from memphis.
>>16164036They have a location in Memphis? Can someone explain this to me Ive never heard of that.
>>16164023speculation
>>16164032They first need to figure out Starship... Then engines, the valves, the reentry, the catching arm
>>16164023Most of what you said is completely unsubstantiated except by spaceguy5 (notable spacex hater, routinely wrong) and I think also that noname black space youtuber? Also >the fluid hammer schizo proved to be incorrectI think fluid hammer is still the consensus among the spaceflight community. I can check on NASAspaceflight forums later to confirm.
>>16164033they might end up hiring new people since the LA people are already pretty busy
>>16164064>>16164040it's substantiated by the live feed. What fluid hammer caused the booster on IFT3 to fail its boostback near the end? What fluid hammer caused the uncontrolled roll of Starship? Consensus should mean nothing to you btw unless you are a woman.
Reminder that a tidally locked planet would have very interesting flora and fauna.
>>16164102not much livable space though would be very cool. if intelligent life developed i wonder how they would expand on to the hot and cold parts?
>>16164102And would chaotically and unpredictably turn for some time until resettling if there are outer planets present in the same star system.
>>16164113They would live in a comfy green ring around the planet. The seas in the hottest part in the middle of the ring would rapidly evaporate and bring rain to the ring.
>>16164113It could be cool enough that most of the sun facing side is habitable. Once they enter the modern age they would spend hundreds of years exploring the dark side and discovering new exotic life on their own planet. It would be a great place for astronomy, putting a radiotelescope on the dark side for them would be like us putting one on the far side of the moon. The light and dark faces of the planet would probably be a central feature of their culture and mythology.
>>16163972he bent the knee when he sucked all the spacex cock to write two sloppy books.you will never see a new shepard book, even though it achieved reusability years before spacex
>>16164122Reusability doing what
>>16164124flying literally to space.
>>16164124kek
>>16164124welcome to the club
>>16164113the amount of livable space depends on a number of factors and the livable area WOULD NOT just be a thin strip between a scorching hot subsolar area and icecapped anti-solar area like pic relatedhttps://worldbuildingpasta.blogspot.com/2024/03/hurried-thoughts-youre-wrong-about.html
>>16164132the actual biomes would depend on rotation speed, which would in turn depend on star massto be tidally locked you would have to rotate, which means coriolis effects which means coriolis windshttps://worldbuildingpasta.blogspot.com/2020/12/an-apple-pie-from-scratch-part-ivd.html#exampleworlds
>>16164136pic is an example world with different rotation speedstop is slow rotator with > 20 earth day rotation periodmiddle is intermediate rotator (5-20 days)bottom is fast rotator (< 5 days)
>>16164144you do have stuff like hot desert right next to tundra which is kind of funny but with the fast rotators you have liquid water around the whole planet, the biomes would be affected by light though so I don't think this was an actual biome map, it was a climate map (so precipitation + temperature)
>>16164136>Consistent winds, orographic rains, and permanent shadows may cause vastly different conditions to exist on either side of even small mountains.meaning you would have wastelands in the shadows of mountains (they never get light) even if it was fine temperature and precipitation wise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Ialipbgw4Ship 30 static firing, the ship that will be used for IFT-5
>>16164152fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRFnGnJzRJQ>How Can European Rockets Compete? // Featuring RFA & ISAR
>>16164156>How Can European Rockets Competethey can't
>>16164156Europe is fine, Ariane 6 will provide launch ability that many American rockets are not able to perform, and will be extremely useful for most domestic launches
>>16164163A6 will not be competetive outside of national security/prestige launches.
>>16164152coolio, will tune in>>16164156i saw that but havent watched yet, gotta gimme a sec
>>16164132Why would you expect that most of the water is on the back side like in your picture? Would be more likely if the planet had seas all over like Earth. And the seas would also smooth out the temperature.
>>16164146>with the fast rotators you have liquid water around the whole planetWhy?
>>16164156RFA is ultra basedhope they succeed
>>16164200that is not what I expect, that is just the a pic in the article that illustrates the point
>>16164206winds spread out the heatSSP = substellar point, center of the image
>tfw rocketlab will never be able to compete in the long term because they're too expensivewhats the future for the kiwis?
>>16164236building satellite buses
>>16164244They're super expensive too.Also they build tiny satellites.The trend is for satellites to get bigger as rockets get bigger.
>>16164213Big Astra energy with the cheap as possible construction and automotive parts.Hope it's more reliable.
>>16164248>cheap as possible construction and automotive partsthis describes SpaceX
>>16164247yeah not really looking good for them desu and the satellite bus business is full of playersthey might survive and be a company doing stuff, but not much more than that
>>16164213they seem to have a better build philosophy in terms of lowering cost than even spacex. It's a shame however that all of these startups seem to have cookie cutter startup CEOs with noone who shares Elons manical obsession with Mars colonization.
>>16164257they should focus on lunar colonization. mars is too rich for their blood.
>>16164156>an optimizer algorithm is designing rockets to make them as cheap as possiblethis is actually really fucking cool. they seem to actually want to do cool stuff but still launch. i dont expect them to do too much but i think that they could be bought up for a massive amount of money for that tech. i wonder if other companies do this but just keep it hidden, seems like very very smart engineering. this is the second small lift rocket that i actually support next to stokes upcoming one.
>>16164250I take offense with this post
>>16164247>The trend is for satellites to get bigger as rockets get biggerIs that so? Falcon is pretty big and they stick some awful small cubesats on transporter missions. And you should have seen the size of the rideshares on artemis
>>16164275K2 want to make big cheap busses to launch with Starshiphttps://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/13/startup-k2-space-raises-50-million.htmlhttps://www.k2space.com/
>>16164287>raised $50 million in fundingeveryone is getting funding except my startup
>>16164275Yes just look at Starlink.
>>16164288Which startup are you backing then? Id like to see what made you decidecto fund them. And if you post Theby we will all laugh at (You)
https://x.com/vickicocks15/status/1787907961592983827Static fire is cancelled everyone
>>16164309Ice in the tanks.
>>16164309Looking forward to June.
>>16164213>>16164248>>16164250>>16164257It's very interesting. Both buying $12 automotive parts (RFA) and vertically integrating everything (ISAR) can lead to a cheaper rocket and SpaceX is notorious for both of those things.How to strike that balance seems unclear.
Amazing they can land them reliably
>>16164303im not funding one, its my startup. its in a different sector anyway. med/health tech.
>>16164325the vision and will of one man. I'm not prone to hyperbole but I know that Elon Musk is a hero and the by far the greatest one of our time.
>>16164325always amazes me how bad the exhausts on those Merlins look. As if it's a flamethrower and not a proper engine plume producing thrust
>>16164328lol, med tech has become notorious for inflated game changing promises then crashing and burning later
>>16164309>CSI starbaseawful channel
>>16164119>It would be a great place for astronomy, putting a radiotelescope on the dark side for them would be like us putting one on the far side of the moonNot if they have an ionosphere
>16164359bot post
>>16164362no? I saw the pfp.
>>16164360Surely he meant optical telescope as it's fucking dark
>>16164369Hello Senator Astronaut Ballast Bill
>>16164373*Administrator Senator Astronaut
>>16164369no use for that type of langage sir.
>>16164334This is Terran-1.
Why would you lie on the internet?
>>16164156They can't without an attitude change.Culturally, European don't dream.
>>16164359racist much?
We already landed on the moon back in in 69? Why would we engage in this petty 2nd place moon race?
As soon as the threads merge there are 2 bait posts, we had such peaceful and well meaning discussion while you werent here you know.
>>16164399I'd say the same about any other generic starbase voyeur, which is what he is. Also, yes I do happen to be a racist.
>>16164401Artemis is a jobs program
>>16164409I've been here the whole fucking time you dipshit retard nigger
>>161641445 day rotation would mean it would have to have a 5 day year to match right? So for a 1 solar mass sun it would have to be 0.057 au away. 17.5 times closer so 300 times the irradiation. So with our sun this planet would be a scorched ball with no chance of water on its front side. What am I missing? this only work with red dwarfs or something?
>>16164156No, we can't.It's over.
>>16164328Medsector startups dont get funding because its just an easier bet to go with the massive conglomerates that already exist and are public in that sector. Meanwhile, the spaceflight sectors massive conglomerates usually arent directly public, which means VC funding will more likely than not go to startups whereas contracts go to the conglomerates. Its not a fair comparison since your sector is much more developed though I understand where the frustration is coming from.
>>16164415no need. for that type. OF LANGUAGE.
>>16164421Im talking out of my ass here but TLDR, more money in med goes to big corporations, spaceflight you cant do that so more money goes to startups.
>>16164413Artemis is America's bid to make their first moon landing. This time they can't use Hitler's engineers.
>>16164425Please dont reply for me further.
>>16164418>this only work with red dwarfs or something?Yes, but red dwarfs are shit and only touted as places for life by shills and retards
>>16164429The 'automated spambot' has returned. Everyone you know what to do.
>>16164429Well, do you have anything do say about spaceflight?
>>16164412based
>>16164432Currently most exoplanets we know are around red dwarfs and this is simply so because these planets have shorter periods and can be more easily detected, However, PLUTO, a mission soon to be launched by ESA will detect many habitable planets around Sun sized Stars
>>16164418> this only work with red dwarfs or something?yes >>16164232below 0.1 solar masses
>>16164435It gey and it deserves banishment. There is no space. It an NPC ghetto.
Kek jannie already deleted and now its ban evading
>>16164431I will reply to you all I like gay retard!
it actually looks much better than the IVA, much bulkier, sturdier, the added bulk diminishes the barren/minimalist appearance enough to make it look cool again, gold visor is a huge help too
>>16164463I wonder how heavy it is
What was the cope for the deathliner scrub?
>>16164483muh
>>16164483give the astronauts more days to live
>>16164483I'm actually curious about this too. There was a leaky valve and they scrubbed for at least 4 days?
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787929530780512256
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787928541088333825
>>16164499>asteroid strikes you're colony
https://ssl.tksc.jaxa.jp/satnavi/alos-4/message/>An artificial satellite begins its mission after taking off into space and being separated from a rocket. Immediately after launch, until conditions are established to maintain the satellite in orbit, a tracking and control team consisting mainly of Daichi-4 project members will monitor the satellite 24 hours a day in the operations room at the Tsukuba Space Center. After that, we will continue to confirm the functionality of the entire satellite and onboard equipment such as observation sensors. >We plan to display the messages of support we have received from everyone as a large message board in the operation room where the Daichi-4 tracking and control team gathers. It provides great emotional support to project members who are living under such tension that even the slightest problem cannot be overlooked. We look forward to receiving messages of support from you. Please send a message and/or image to be displayed in a nip operations room.
>>16164501just build more colonies, at some point its very unlikely all of them get hit simultaneously
>>16164325Not really tbqh. Could've been done decades ago if not for laziness and greed
>>16164509>colossal asteroid impacts Mars near the main colony and refueling station
>>16164502
>>16164509>aliens invade >hit every planet in the solar systemnice backup colonies bro
>>16164510NASA did it back in 1980 with Soujourner
>>16164514>aliensno such thing
>>16164515stick that in the latest video Thunderf00t
>>16164536least e-celeb obsessed /sfg/entile
>>16164501No accidental collisions in an industrialized solar system anon
>>16164496Why would europe focus on reusability, they are not mass-launching anything ever. It makes no sense to go this way. The european space lives off the breadcrumbs falling off from NASA's table. It doesn't even make sense for ULA to invest in reusability apparently.That was a bs comment from Elon's AI bot.
>>16164562if they want to launch their own megaconstellations they need to have reusable rockets
>>16164552youre fucing retarded. nothing we could do to stop omuamua. now it knows where we are and im scared.
>>16164552what do the five laser dots signify
>>16164565We should've randevood with it and inspected it.
>>16164483essentially: "space is hard".
>>16164568thrusters, navigation lights idk
>>16164583your chart sucks donkey dick dude
>>16164583I remember reading in ignition about mercury additives. Modern rocket enthusiasts would never.
>>16164584make a better one niggy
>>16164587what font did you use
>>16164590I didn't make it so idk
>>16164586hahaha I looked it up and the first result says it's actually banned worldwide now.https://spectrum.ieee.org/mercury-ion-thruster-banned
>>16164595you are completely useless to me
>>16164563Dude what are you smoking. The EU will never spend such a gigantic sum in duplicating a service that isn't really needed and that the US can already provide. A LEO megaconstellation is only valuable if you want to project global power. The EU again and again has shown that it is not willing to be a global player, but a client continent of the US. Eurocrats are 100% US controlled and don't really have among their priorities doing anything serious in space. On the contrary, billions are being wasted in pursuing anti-european interests, such as funding the Ucrainan war profiteering for the next 10 years.
>>16164599I got you dubs, be grateful
>>16164611literally one out of ten posts is dubs dude it's not special
>>16164607niggahttps://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-space/iris2-secure-connectivity_en
And BTW, ESA just ridiculed themselves by discontinuing Ariane 5 before 6 is ready and having to launch 2 Galileo sats onboard Falcon 9 (see B1060 on the 28th of April). Theoretically euro gobt sats are supposed to be launched onboard european rockets, so this is a massive new low for ESA.
>>16164613>literally one out of ten posts is dubssource?
>>16164607youre a fucking nigger dude. get back to the bronx.
>>16164631kek
>>16164565no it's sleeping, let it rest>>16164572that will awaken it. we don't want to awaken it.
>>16164623>multi-orbitalaka "We are too poor for LEO only">170 satellitesBasically a survival package for Ariane space that nobody will ever use except for a few EU institutions that are already connected by fiber.
>>16164000averi is better
>>16164156>the only real player in the launch industry to hail from Europe is ArianespaceWhy do Americans think like Russia isnt in Europe? I know Americans knowledge of geography is extremely limited but ive seen more of this thinking than ever in the past couple years
>>16164686>Russiathey are on the bad goy list for the foreseeable future
Btw they recycled the S30 static fire but seems they did nothing with it other than tank and detank.https://x.com/vickicocks15/status/1787935709334041082
>>16164686Russia is in Asiat. General Patton
>>16164583>>16164590I actually did make it 2 and a half weeks ago in PS, font is Garamond bold
>>16164687bad goys for life
>>16163970What did he get BTFO'd about?
>>16164695I know you made it retard, I was here for thatthanks for telling me what font you used so I an make a better one
>>16164686do russians consider themselves european?technically part of turkey is also in europe
>>16164686Russia is even more pathetic than the EU, which has some funds but has no systems.Russia has systems and could build even better ones but has no money or political will. Roskosmos lived off ESA's Soyuz launches, now it's over.
>>16164699Why are you being so hostile? Theres no need to be that rude when this anon wasnt being combative at all. It really doesnt help discussion if youre always this rude to others you know, if it were something that you disagreed on it would make them even less likely to agree with you even if valid points were presented.
>>16164705On and off they do. There's a Christian base to their culture unlike Turkey
>>16164705complex issue. most dont consider themselves 'western', and that is synonymous with europe to some extent. Many consider themselves eurasian due to soviet propaganda, but most do consider themselves europeanin a broadersense. among youth they overwhelmingly view their country as european.
Ive noticed a pattern from anons in this general. We all are way too aggressive on things that really dont require aggression at all. Its really not necessary in most posts I see with an aggresive tone, even if you think someone is wrong about something you dont need to always call them retards or niggers, you can just discuss the topic, and it makes the other person more likely to agree. And if youre responding to hostility when someone points something out, you dont always need to be right you know. Coming here to /sci/ and especially /sfg/ I think our main goal is to discuss and learn more right? Being rude is the #1 way to shut others out, so you cant learn, discuss or educate them on anything. I think we all should try to take a more mellow approach to posting here, it helps with cohesion and I believe would be a net positive compared to constant arguing for the smallest of things. Non aggression also has the added benefit of not replying to bait as much as answers are either thoughtful as to why they are wrong or anons dont feel the need to reply as much to things that are trying to make them angry.TLDR, lets try to get along everyone for the health of discussion in this general.
>>16164709maybe you should go back to discord, faggot>>16164738shut the fuck up frogposter
>>16164741you have a bad attitude
>>16164707without Soyuz ESA is also screwed, unable to launch medium payloads until Ariane 6 is ready. that or fall into the hands of SpaceX and the Americans. Meanwhile Russianspace falls into Chinese hands and becomes basically just a sidekick on their lunar space base.
>>16164738Id also like to admit that I have been a part of this issue, but I realize my mistake and Im trying to become a better poster. I hope I can become a better poster for the sake of the general, Ill try to improve myself post by post.
>>16164738I'm pretty sure there are just a few posters that are permanently assdamaged or ventingI think calling someone retarded if they are saying retarded things is entirely warranted
>>16164743have you not heared? Russia is developing a new launch system which will be reusable 100 times and will make falcon look like a joke.
>>16164747Still being nicer to them if they are saying objectively retarded things makes them more open to understand their mistake. Would it be better to just be kinder, maybe its not intentionally stupid behavior and they really dont know. They could learn from you instead, being rude will just make them more likely to repeat what they had been saying and annoy you in the future.
>>16164738Nah this thread is just shit now retarded nigger. Too many newfags since starhopper. Kys frog faggot.
>>16164754go back
>>16164759Theres nowhere for me to go back to. Im here forever.
You people are fucking sick
Why do I hate Rocketlab so much?I prefer BO over them. It's something about their PR
>>16164769don't bring retarded twitter drama here you faggot, that has nothing to do with us
>>16164769Is this about spaceflight?
>>16164773You disgusting chuds have been harrassing her every chance you got
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thread turned into shitflinging immediately after mergingthere needs to be a containment thread for the assravaged anons
>>16164779what the fuck are you talking about, I just woke up
>>16164779My ass hurty
>>16164780your ass = devastated
>>16164769>>16164776Someone post the foot pic
how do they prevent fluid hammer on flight 5? sinceyou trtards think it's not due to ice in the tanks
https://x.com/astro_g_dogg/status/1787965090802659419Oh shit new Vast Haven pathfinder mini tour!!
>>16164769If you had to list her component parts in order of attractiveness, her personality wouldn't even be coming in second. Hoes are upset they can't trade on things they don't have.
Pogo stick oscilations
>>16164769solid advice actually.
>>16164790Heres the individual images
>>16164788*since you retards
>>16164788Put heaters in the tank to melt the ice
>>16164795A lil zoom out. Dang this things actually kinda big, but how much of it will be left for livable space once its all filled in?
>>16164797>>16164788why do you need to be mean :(
>>16164790Isnt garret rizzman the guy who had fish eat his poop twenty thousands leagues down under? wtf
>>16164799>>16164795>>16164790how will they deal with air circulation is such a wide volume?
>>16164795>>16164799A lot of this volume is going to get eaten up by equipment racks, but that's still pretty damn roomy.
>>16164805astronauts dont actually "suffocate in a CO2 bubble"it's just sleep apnea
>>16164801im just koking buddy, i love you <3 : )
>>16164805With a fanAlso Co2 bubble schizos need to be medicated immediately
>>16164805Couldnt they just have the air blow out harder to induce more turbulence and movement of air at the center? Not really sure Im just spitballing here.
why dont we make ball space stations? i've been having this idea for years
>>16164807Im kind of surprised at that too, but wgat surprised me the most is the size of that hatch in the center. Are they always that small or is it just me
>>16164811>>16164808yeah, i will have fun reading about your death on social media when you suffocate in an air bubble.
>>16164805the same way skylab did?
>>16164818Could you tell us why you think its a valid concern. What would be different from the ISS.
>>16163547What do all those tiny pipes do?
>>16164826it's called a "pitot tube" and you should fucking google it you retarded newfag
>>16164818literally has never happened in history in any space station. hey man, guess what! little hint..space stations didnt used to circulate air. I know I know CRAZY right? Lmfao
>>16164826I believe they transfer fluids. Could be oil could be propellant could be air who knows. Clearly somebody but I sure dont.
>>16164828Yeah but what does it do? You seem knowlegable
>>16164828Hey man leave him alone hes just trying to learn
>>16164826they are there to fool science dogmatists into beleiving lies about how rocket engines and space travel works (magic)
>>16164817It's a legacy measurement from Apollo-Soyuz that's just been transferred into the future through multiple standards. IPAS-75/89/95/IDSS all have had a 31" passage diameter. It's awkward because payload designers really want something bigger but they're stuck because spacecraft designers need something that can dock to stations currently in flight.
>>16164832he's not: that isn't what they are, he's talking out of his ass.
>>16164841Oooh I see. Thanks for the info man, lotta interesting history I still dont know.
Are you guys excited for the Boeing Starship launch?
>>16164816we have to wait until orbital construction in-situ
>>16164845I think you meant Starliner, but I am excited for both Starliner and Starship launches. Both for the same reason kek.
>>16164826Pressure sensors
>>16164832no, now ask another dogshit question in your quest to "learn" (read: increase the post count with pointless garbage)>>16164842holy shit you're right, it's just "tubing"pitot tubes are a specific way of measuring dynamic pressure from airflowdamnanyway here's a link to some if you want to play with it to understand what it's forhttps://www.mcmaster.com/products/tubing/tubing~/smooth-bore-seamless-stainless-steel-tubing/
>>16164824its differnt from the iss because its a large cylinder instead of a series of thin cylinders>>16164829sleep was a major problem on old stations
>>16164855NTA, why would anybody care about increasing post count on /sfg/? we were past bump limit and there is no thread vs thread dynamic, this doesnt make sense. are you just unable to accept that some people dont know everything and try to learn? we are literally on the science and math board that is all about learning/discovering new things.
>>16164859THE GUY YOU ARE TALKING TO IS AN ASSBLASTED TRANNY WHO HAS MELTDOWNS EVERY THREAD. LITERALLY THE SPACEGUY5 OF PRO SPACEX POSTERS. IGNORE AND SAGE.
>>16164872who the fuck are you talking about bro, is that some discord shit?
>>16164872Based Schizo Poster
>>16164823with space jannies?
>>16164779Thank you fellow frogposter. It has become obvious how right you are.
>>16164790this is going to be pretty kino
>>16164769So why are her down, then, scientifically speaking?
>>16164769I just realized I'll probably be dead before their are skin tight compression space suit try on hauls in zero gravity
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
OF BOING
>>16164892compression gloves at the bare minimum are an essential technology for offworld colonies. Shuttle was meant to be like a repair van but failed due to the impossibility of doing tasks in the equivalent of boxing gloves. Until compression gloves are worked out we will not have an extraterrestrial manned economy
>>16164818>find sleep position>put fan blowing down above your head>will constantly be blowing air downwards towards your faceor>have suction fan right above your head>constantly sucking in CO2 laden air and drawing fresh air into the spaceThere
>>16164920gloves are optional actually
>16164921It's not that easy in space stationery
>>16164790>>16164795>>16164799garrett reisman is actually based though. one of my favourite astronauts
>>16164463“thick” like this looks more pleasing to the eye than “bulbous” such as the starliner suit, and the SX IVA suit Also Sarah Gillis is so cute it’s unreal
>>16164959exactly yes, that bulbous look is soo ugly>is so cute it’s unrealI know right!
>>16164957I didnt know him from before Vast but he seems like a very cool and passionate guy about this. Not like hes collecting paychecks to give speeches and such like other public figures.
https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1787987675804254646>A5/Starliner CFT: United Launch Alliance managers have decided to haul the Starliner Atlas 5 off the pad and back to the Vertical Integration Facility to replace an oxygen pressure relief valve in the rocket's Centaur upper stage; launch is now targeted for no earlier than May 17, at 6:16pm EDT (2216 UTC)Oh no
>>161649832 more weeks
>>1616498310 day turn for swapping a valve isn’t terrible
>>16164983Most reliable rocket btw
>>16164148Man, that would have to be creepy as hell to experience without knowing exactly what was going on. A place that, while in eternal night, has perfectly fine weather, temperature, and even rain yet is just barren.A species that dealt with that would probably be terrified of the darkness.
>>16164974he did a long and very interesting interview with Rogan is where I heard about him first . very likeable guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RG5pXTpLBI
Will the next Starliner launch be on Vulcan? Or do they have more Atlases in storage?
>>16165008Will check it out, thanks anon.
>>16165012Oops Im stupid and only now just started reading that article above deleting ASAP
crack head
>>16165009there are like 15 atlas V launches left so many of those will be for Starliner presumably.
>>16165020There are 17 remaining Atlas Vs. One is launching ViaSat-3 EMEA next year, one is reserved for USSF-51, eight are left from Amazon's Kuiper purchase, and then there are six for Starliner's operational flights with one extra for CFT.
>>16165032thanks for the details. its approximately what I said. are these things still being made or are they all in a warehouse somewhere? it would make sense to make them for a bit until vulcan is more flight proven
Can I get odds on another scrub and Starship flight 4 launching before this
>>16165043Starship flight 4 will blow up due to ice in the main tanks either way so it doesnt really matter.
>>1616504350/50
>>16165037https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1774979043303026908>Ok. By popular demand. The last Centaur III tank. (And 3 amazing craftsmen: Andrew, Jason, and Ian - thanks guys. Nice work)Tory was pretty enthusiastic a while ago about shutting down the old Delta and Atlas lines so they could be converted over to Vulcan production. I'm pretty sure that the Delta line has been cleared out but the Atlas line still seems to still be tricking out some hardware. I can't find any specific details about rocket storage but there are a few mentions here and there about a storage facility somewhere at Cape Canaveral.
How many lifetime cycles is starship designed for?Don't say infinite
>>16165062white dudes getting it done>>16165066I dunno, over 20? Falcon 9 can do 20 just about.
>>16165066Not yet known. Theyre still designing Falcon for 40 flight limit so we wont even know until we actually reach that limit it seems. In reality, its just whenever they decide to put a rocket out of comission. They could keep replacing parts on Starship until none of the first parts remain and it would still be considered the same ship so
What's his problem?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hje7h_WVkY
>>16164790Stefan Molyneux had a career change
starliner crew flight or ift-4 first?
>>16165069I told you not to say infinite, pig. god I wish I could mouth fuck you to teach you a lesson.
>>16163616>Nuclear Thermal EnginesNever, cores are too heavy to do a good heat transference, temperatures are still too low.
>>16165067Found it! It's called the "Atlas Spaceflight Operations Center" and seems to be a combo of Atlas mission control and temporary storage for the rocket before it gets trucked over to the Vertical Integration Facility. It can store several boosters but I don't think it has room for all 17, if all of those are even completed yet. My guess would be that they could be storing a few more in the old Delta IV facilities and then warehousing the rest at Decatur. https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1730610105245470749/I did find out that ULA stores their spare SRBs WAY off site at a national guard training center called Camp Blanding, southwest of Jacksonville.
http://www.astronautix.com/b/bygeminitomars.html>This was really a bare-bones approach. The mission produced only five days on the Martian surface. Hopefully the scientific payload included some kind of surface shelter for the two crew, otherwise they would have to climb up and down the side of the lander and try to sleep in their suits in their cramped Gemini seats every night.5 days? I thought short stay missions gave you a month minimum
>>16165093its fake there no water in space
>>16165092>just use Gemini for everythingmost retarded take
>>16165084Dont threaten me
>>16165095who says it's water? could be a hydrocarbon
>>16165088Atlast we've found it.
>arrive at Mars in Starship for aerobraking >your landing zone is enveloped in a dust storm problem?
>>16165110just come back the next day
>>16165107It is damn near impossible to find interior pictures of this place, but I think they could probably store six cores without feeling too cramped, not that I think they ever have. Even with the flight rates that were planned for Atlas back in the 90s they would have just had a steady stream of hardware moving from Decatur to SLC-41 rather than a stockpile like the strategic launch reserves the Soviets set up with the Soyuz and Proton.
>>16165119can't deviate from your aerobraking window, its now or never
>>16165110don't aerobrakekeep going until you find a planet with less dust
>>16165129reroll landing approach
>>16165110There is no dust up where the majority of braking occurs. Literally not a problem so long as you have guidance.
>>16165132But that only leaves the hellhole that is Mercury. What about the moons?
>>16165143Marslink will also exist so automated landing guidance will be way better in the future.Also speaking of Marslink that name is ass, can we think of a better name? Maybe Redlink or something idk.
How the the laonch boyos?
>>16165160Wat. Which one
>>16165160We've got two Starlinks launches and a Long March 3B going up tomorrow
https://x.com/texas_lizard/status/1788028943687205356Another S30 SF tomorrow. You think its gonna get called off again? Also when are they gonna cart Flight 4 vehicles over to the LC I want a WDR or launch not some dinky 3 engine SF.
>>16165170They've got a couple months yet to figure out the license modifications
>>16165186I don't get why they even need to modify the license. The FTS didn't activate on either part of the spacecraft. They should be ready to go NOW, not waiting on some stupid investigation for a month.
>>16165191Joe Biden
>>16164920Why not robotic hands outside the suit controlled from inside the suit?
>>16165191the investigation is gonna take less time but its more so about why it failed at landing and why tumble occured. FAA (or should i say AST) are allowing it go by shorter but that doesnt release spacex of their responsibility to thoroughly investigate why a mishap happened. should really be grateful, compare this to the year delay that new shepherd had after a failure (which is a much smaller and less complex rocket) and its pretty obvious whos getting the better wrap right now.
>>16165197Do you think they will fix the RCS and stick the booster wet landing this time? How much shorter would the delay be if they do pull it off?
>>16165203I think fixing the tumble issues with the RCS thrusters is likely, but Booster wet landing a little less. Theres a decent chance they do get it considering the massive hurdles theyve overcame with every flight before with things they got data on, but I dont know something just makes it seem a bit harder to me about the reentry wet landing stuff.In regards to the shorter delay if they do pull it off, WAY shorter. That would basically be a perfect flight in what they laid out for the flight plan which means that the FAA has no need to interupt them unless something happens at ship reentry. Even then, thats only one issue compared to the barrage theyve had before on every flight, so it would still be reduced, but not down to a month like Elon says if they get it perfect (which is what I think would be about right).So far my predictions on a flight to flight basis havent been wrong, hoping its the same here.
>>16165203Erm sorry goy I know like it looked your test went perfectly but we can see a few sensor alerts in your log so that will be another 6 month investigation :^)
>>16165210>I think fixing the tumble issues with the RCS thrusters is likelyI am less optimistic. The valves shouldn't have frozen over the first time they got to orbit, and I don't see what they did to fix that for the next flightIf they would just get the next booster and ship ready while they wait for the investigation to end, I could see the turnaround being only a few weeks
>>16165216>and I don't see what they did to fix that for the next flightAnd you would know that how?...
>>16165222>and you would know that how?...The youtoobers who pore every tiny detail like how many ring sections or stringers there are would have noticed larger vents or stronger pressure vessels
>>16165216Fortunately seems like before that the next flights testing campaign is starting early. Just today S30 for Flight 5 attempted a static fire, and even earlier than the previous flight.
>>16165224Can you point me to that video? Im assuming its a CSI Starbase episode right, I havent kept up much with Flight 3 deep dives because I was going through finals season
>>16164816too bad they never built it
>>16164568Anon's inability to count to six.
>>16164572>randevood
>>16165254Collect vood
If this actually happens, you guys better apologize to Phil Mason
https://x.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1788075656321843301S30 rollout now
Example Layout for a Mars MissionFor a mission to Mars, which could last several months, here's how the decks might be specialized: Top Deck: Navigation and advanced communication systems to stay in contact with Earth and Martian bases. Telescopic observation equipment for celestial study and Mars reconnaissance. Upper Deck: Labs equipped for geology and soil analysis. Medical and quarantine facilities to monitor health after landing on Mars. Mid Deck 1: Sleeping quarters customized for long-duration spaceflight, with enhanced personal space. Hydroponic gardens to supplement food supplies with fresh produce. Mid Deck 2: Enhanced fitness equipment to combat muscle atrophy and bone density loss. Psychological support facilities, including virtual reality relaxation zones. Lower Deck 1: Larger storage capacity for Mars surface suits and scientific gear. Advanced recycling systems to support extended periods without resupply. Lower Deck 2: Expanded engineering facilities to maintain and repair rovers and other surface exploration vehicles. Additional backup systems for critical life support functions. Bottom Deck: Custom fittings for Mars rovers and exploration modules. Airlocks and equipment for surface excursions and sample collection.This layout emphasizes the need for adaptability, robust life support, and the ability to support a wide range of scientific and exploratory activities. As development continues, the specific design will evolve based on mission needs, technological advances, and the experiences from initial test flights and operations.Would you like more details on specific technologies, systems, or another aspect of Starship’s interior design?
I took a look at some other threads on /sci/. It was a mistake I shan't repeat.>>16165302Thanks chatgpt.
>>16165311that's im-a-good-gpt2-chatbot to you!
>>16165290Says Ship 26, maybe testing out the stand and transport system on an older model for fit-check?
>>16165324Oh shit my bad yeah S26. Nah its the inaugural testing for the new Masseys flame trench set up. We discussed this before but theyre probably using S26 since its a non-flight vehicle that can be used on semi-risky tests like this.
Bad news boing bros…
>>16165344>cropping out community notesYikes dude
>>16165346It mustve gotten hidden in the time between when you and I saw it. If you didnt read it because if that, now it should be fine to.
>>16165353>FAA has opened an investigation I'm sure the DEI hires at FAA are going to be very thorough and strict with the DEI hires of Boeing
>>16165357Wasn't the FAA revealed to be telling Basketball Americans how to pass their exam or something? Maybe I'm thinking of another agency.
>>16165378They were telling them to use certain key words on their resumes in order to move them to the top of their hiring list.
STAGING>>16165415>>16165415>>16165415>>16165415>>16165415
>>16163773They all just look kinda average
>>16165066Thousands at least?
>>16165157Starlink, just need to specify its above mars if its not clear from context
>>16165197Most of that time is due to the company itself investigating the anomaly, the extra paperwork from FAA/AST is just maybe two weeks
>>16165203Yes, 1.5 months
>>16165279He misspoke and meant starlinkThere is no way in hell musk is making spacex itself public
>>16165344inb4 9/12
