Dr. Jordan Peterson says that global warming is a big lie and that it is fake and gay
>literally a coal and oil corp payed shillSad
>>16172786Yeah well he also got brain damage from a self-induced coma to help him quit his benzo addiction cold turkey so I don't know if you should take his advice on anything
>>16172807Broken clock etc
>>16172841>>16172807>>16172804Why the antisemitism?
>>16172786what's his expertise on the subject ?
>>16172804>>16172807>>16172850>personal attack/ad hominem/appeal to authoritySeriously, what evidence can you provide of mande CO2 affecting climate change, except some laughable modeling that doesn't even consider water evaporation?I don't care about the guy saying the message, but glad someone who gets attention is saying it. Who can a fraction of a percent of the atmospheric gases cause widespread climate change rather than solar activity and distance fluctuations (the massive elephant in the room, never accounted for)?
>>16172807What's that got to do with the position "The extensive CO2 induced global greening is a profound NET good"?What's wrong with that statement? It concedes at least the possibility of there being drawbacks to higher CO2, in principle.
>>16172850What makes climate scientists an authority on the concept of "how do we rank order the benefits and drawbacks of higher CO2 levels"?I'm pretty sure that the poor, starving and cold people that still eke out a miserable subsistence would agree that they have the right to lift themselves out of deprivation with the most effective, reliable, versatile and, potentially profitable for them, technologies.
>>16172867>I don't care about the guy saying the messagewell obviously you do, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered us with your thread. So what, if I find a more popular celebrity saying the opposite, I win ? how about you post scientific research or even your own analysis of the subject instead of sharing some layman's opinion on it like a drone
>>16172804>payed
>>16172786True and real. Only complete morons believe that crapshit is anything but a massive scam.
>>16172845>>16172867>>16172879>>16172884>>16172923Wow! This astroturf looks so natural!
This is the video in question.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afYRZUhE1-o
>>16172933Schizo, nice >>16172885Not my thread, new to sci and hoping someone attempts to make an argument why we need to reduce man-made CO2 release that doesn't just appeal to authority.The climate change being driven by mm CO2 "argument" is laughable and clearly pushed as a diversion from real pollution by those responsible. The greening thing is a fact, the benefits in places like Japan debatable as nature is already overtaking everything, but clearly results in reabsorption of CO2 in due course without any measurable change in terms of greenhouse effect theory because the numbers are just too small and atmosphere is too vast the higher up you go. Are my missing some reason why I shouldn't run my wood burning stove next to my well maintained forest and garden?
>>16172984>Schizo, niceI think it's a coping mechanism. It's easier for them to believe that "Big Oil" pays people to FUD than to believe that "otherwise reasonable" people can have their own thoughts about the relative benefits and drawbacks of more CO2.
>>16172984CO2 has been below 300 ppm for all of human history up to the 20th century. It's now over 400 ppm. The numbers are not too small, the atmosphere is not too vast, and you shriek "appeal to authority" because all the authorities on the subject know things you don't.
>>16172997When does human history start?
The climate changes, but we will accustom to it. It’s overblown.
imagine random people with no education in the topic giving their strong opinions about chemistry, biology, astronomy, math etc Opinions that strongly disagree with the established science. Everyone would think those people are retards and we do think that with Terrence Howard and his own version of math, for example. But when it's climate science this type of stupidity became normalized
>>16173028you're not saying this based on your knowledge about climate science because you have none. This is your le gut feeling, completely unfounded, but you're saying this with such a certainty as if you had 100 peer revieved papers backing it.
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>>16173075Fuck off you moron, you don't even know what is a woman, you stupid piece of shit.
>>16173075>Equations describing Brownian Motion are wrong. Boltzmann constant is completely overblown - random guy on the internetor - Jordan Peterson, psychologist, self help book authoryou see now how insane that is?
>>16172997>CO2 has been below 300 ppm for all of human history up to the 20th century.Wow, cavemen were measuring the CO2 concentration of the atmosphere 200,000 years ago?
>>16173105They drill out sections of antarctic ice and measure the composition to draw conclusions about the atmosphere
>>16173197What a fucking joke.
>>16172997>It's now over 400 ppmSo what? That's a good thing.
If you're not a vitriolic anti-natilist death cultist, consider becoming a humanist today. It is not incompatible with other belief systems.
>>16172804https://youtu.be/FqhpxFoF2Iw?feature=shared&t=30"I'm just here to make money"-J.B.P.
>>16173003Still no answer to when human history started. Why are you so scared to putting some dates to your assertions?
>>16172997The two-hundred-thousand other parts per million of oxygen (a highly reactive gas) seem like less of a rounding error than your 400 co2 molecules.
>>16172786>Jordan Peterson
>>16172997Proles will have reduced mental acuity and labor in the abundant green fields of future earth. We elites will live in glass towers with perfectly controlled pre-industrial CO2 concentrations, and rule over the disgusting hordes with an iron fist. All of (You) will be equal. All of (You) will be diverse!The future is bright for the truly great among us!
>>16172997Please demonstrate in since sort of coherent manner how these 400 parts per million could have a measurable impact on earth temperatures and weather in ways that are not instantly offset by water evaporation. The authority you appeal to is an embarrassingly inept model of the atmosphere that doesn't consider cloud cover, moisture etc because that would be too difficult. It's literally retarded, just because it cost millions in funding and is massively over-hyped doesn't make it any less so. Just like mRNA injections, there is a forgone conclusion about what the problem and answer must be, and that has been created by said funding and so called authority receiving it. I suspect you actually don't want to research and form and independent thought on the matter, you just want to be told you are right and have people you can attack and judge for being wrong. Otherwise, do explain how 400 ppm, it rather 50 or so of it being reduced are going to change our climate. Do you dismiss the fact that solar cycles exist? Does that not make you wonder which might be proportionally more to blame for the change in climate we are experiencing?
>>16172919it's the jeets, they all write woman for plural and payed for paid and nothing can ever dissuade them because they learn from each other
While reading this thread on 4chans /sci/-board it is obvious that the woke mind virus has taken over here as well. Let's meme these climatescammers away from here. For the glory of KEK! Who is with me? Reply to this post and give me (You)
>>16172919Homophones are common typos that everyone does occasionally, especially when on 4ch It's cope to pretend they are significant errors Green is good. CO2 from God.Cope harder.
>>16173776The only homophone you should be concerned about is the one your Grindr matches text you on.
>>16172997What's going on with them authorities and wouldn't you immediately step into crisis mode if this was true? It's almost like those authorities are paid by the authorities who are the only ones treated with any real agency in solving the problem. Why'd the scientists let a teenage girl be their mouthpiece? Or, why do the powers that be promoting this thing (and the 'decrease net carbon by 20xx' thing) put a teenage girl there at the forefront? Greta, if you are reading this... you might've been barking up the wrong tree with them there conferences.
>>16173940Based
>>16173028Well yeah, it's either overblown and can be dealt with calmly or we die >>16173075Imagine somebody who is not a philosopher giving their strong opinions about what qualifies somebody to make up their mind about complex social, economic and environmental issues, the causes and prescribed solutions being relevant to multiple disciplines who, being in their isolated silos of expertise, focus on their professional careers instead of solving a problem common to humanity. Imagine having an opinion on something so blown up in the media that fosters a diffuse sense of helplessness and dependency and austerity. Imagine not being so overwhelmed by it all that you say something that makes sense according to basic knowledge of plants and realise that people are just idolising and sacrificing their children to a system that is evil and neglects simplicity and common sense. They don't care about you Greta, they applaud you after you berate them all as adults who didn't do enough. Why? They think they're doing the right thing just by 'accepting' climate change and 'supporting' the reigning in of industry at this convenient point for them while driving their Teslas and renting out their multiple apartments and selling carbon credits or whatever. The other side of the coin of the 'let it burn, I will be dead anyway' crowd. JP at least seems to give a fuck about the working class and isn't cowering or depressed in his little conformist silo Tell me about these scientists and what they do all day - are they looking for the one key that will convince the public to vote Greens? Are they looking for the next grant? The next PhD proposal wilderness trip? Do they tweet madly? Who is supposed to change in this economy?
>>16172997Does Oxygen concentration deviate from the global average meaningfully in areas of dense foliage?
>>16172786Another old person who'll never see the catastrophe that climate change will causeAnother grave for me to shit on
>>16173197Kek We know. That's why it's hilarious.
>>16173846>Using cell phone appsFucking zoomers cant even get buttsex without an app Sad!
>>16173940No surprise, he's obviously more of a muppets guy
>>16173776you talk like a homophone
>fossil fuel smoke in air is bad for our health>high concentration of CO2 is bad for our health>nuclear energy is clean and our best energy sourcethis is what i know
>>16172841third post best post
>>16172997>0.003% vs 0.004%it's literally nothing
Everyone with an IQ above 90 has long since figured out that global warming is fake
>>16174347>>high concentration of CO2 is bad for our healthBuy a CO2 monitor and see what it gets to overnight even with a window ajarPicrel my window has been slightly open all evening and Ive only spent half an hour in here this evening. By the morning it will be nearly 2000, even with the window ajar. To get it below 500 you need windows on either side of the house open pretty much non stop. If you spend most of your waking life indoors, like most urbanites, most people, on Earth, you are almost never breathing the background level of CO2. You're almost always breathing Precambrian levels of CO2 every 24 hours, and 2300AD ambient levels for most of the day.
>>16174500As long as oxygen remains around 20%, we're extremely tolerant of heightened CO2.
>>16174500>like most urbanitesSo the most unhealthy people on the planet?
>>16174609How about we get the rural obesity levels down before we start talking about health
>>16174609Like the majority of the population. The point is that almost the entire human population is exposed to 800ppm or higher for most of the day, most of their lives.
>>16174622>f-fresh air will make me fatholy cope
>>16174500CO2 monitors are fun toys to have. People who claim that they're concerned about CO2 and who don't buy a monitor are lying about their CO2 related concerns
>>16172786It's not that it's fake and gay. It's that it doesn't matter, even if it is fake and gay.
>>16172786https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPMPINPcrdkOur core environmental problem is not climate change, it is ecological overshoot.
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>>16172786https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdXdaIsfio8
>>16172786https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3nCFwhV-9E
>>16172786Yes well you see global warming or the climat hoax as I like to call it is obviously designed to inhibit autistic alpha males from taking everything back (we had everything before but....jews). The system fears high test mongoloid omega males.
>>16176523Retard take
>>16173003>>1617357512000 years ago with the first domestication of plants and the advent of agriculture
>>16173609>attacking the source because you can't refute the central point of the argument
>>16178110wrong, archaeology goes back way further than that
>>16172786>Dr. (in psychology) Jordan Peterson says...lol
>>16179709>Attacking the source because you're incapable of disputing the central argument being madeIts as much as admitting you're wrong
>>16172786UHH Did you know the eugenicist nazi elite wants to make sure the turd world is depopulated??? Just ask Jordan Peterson and Alex Jones!
>>16179709Well, he has more authority on this subject than you do.
>>16172786who cares what this faggot says
>>16176557Can't do anything about it. Such sociological pressure is only honed in from radical evolutionary pruning. Anybody with concerns about overshoot should just build some bunkers with recorded history and discoveries of Earth. In front, set giant stone tablets with many different languages on them and their alphabets. Caveman V2 discovering schizo shitposting would be quite kino.
>>16179518But the impacts of global warming on humans are mostly on agriculture and our cities, so that's the relevant period.
>>16181946global warming doesn't exist, its just a meme
>>16172786>dr of psychology>druggie degenopinion disregarded
>>16181975There's a lot of annual variation in the climate, so of course you can find shorter periods of time like your graph of 20 years where there's no change, but the long-term trend is unambiguously an increase in temperatures.
>>16181975I'm 35 years old and I still have no fucking clue what El Nino and La Nina actually are. It's just some meaningless babble weathermen said when I was a kid any time they failed to predict the weather correctly.
>>16183063Is your implication that since the 1999 graph shows 1934 as warmer than 1998, and the 2019 graph shows the opposite, that NASA is faking this data? That's nonsense. Reanalyses using better data, more data, and newer methods are the norm in all of science. The newer graph should be expected to be more accurate. There has also been very significant warming since 1998.
>>16181975sauce for this graph? Yeah, that's what i thought. Every schizo claim collapses when you ask for sauce
>>16183063>the 1930s is the warmest period on record and its been generally cooling off since then
Interesting that most of the records for highest temperature in the US were from over seven decades ago. Most of the recent records were ties with older records or in the case of New Mexico, happened after the weather station was moved to the site of a nuclear waste dump.
>>16183417Not sure about the others, but the balance of the evidence from from later observations points to the Death Valley record almost certainly being an error. It's an extreme outlier, and measurements from days with perfect conditions for reaching maximum temperatures all cluster a few degrees cooler than that. It's very easy to to make a mistake or measure a temperature incorrectly in a way that gives a warmer reading, and many record high readings from a century ago before modern automated weather stations have turned out to be errors.
>>16172845how is any of this antisemitic lol
>>16183517This is dismissive of the general climate around the time of those measurements. 1930s in particular. Don't be so hasty.
>>16185137none whatsoever, why do you ask?
Ecelebrity faggots are not math or sciencebeing given the title "doctor" by a piss-shit institution doesn't really mean shit and is not deserving of respect at all>uhm actually it's doctor cuckold-faggot-pantsEven computers can read books now. I'm really not impressed.
>>16185815>being given the title "doctor" by a piss-shit institutionas opposed to black soiyence man who got his title from an ivy league school, right? sure hope you're not casting aspersions on black soiyence man's phd, that would be hate speech and hate speech is illegal
>>16172786He's right. co2 levels before the 1800s were really life support level for most plants, now it's 50% higher and it ideally should it should be around 100%. Also the hotter and wetter climate will make much of the world closer to the amazon rain forest. We are on the cusp of new life explosion
>>16172786>JewTubeoy vey block all antisemitic content creators
>>16187181>>16185815>>16183417>>16183398>>16183063Retard takes
>>16187181>and it ideally should it should be around 100%1500-2000ppm is where it should be for the healthiest atmosphere
>>16188495At the rate we're going it will be half a dozen centuries before we get to that level
>>16189158it'll be longer than that because as atmospheric CO2 levels increase, the ability of plants to sequester CO2 also increases, so we're more like a few thousand years away from 1500ppm.
>>16172786Dr. Jordan Peterson is a retarded faggot
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>>16189158i wish i could be around to see it. i have a greenhouse that i maintain at 1500ppm during daylight hours, but thats just not the same thing. i want to see what nature is like at 1500ppm with plants growing 4x faster on 25% the water.
>>16191720>>16190456Retard takes
>>16190416>>>/pol/
>>16191720It would be shittier. Plants growing 400% faster would mean that there would be 400% more wildlife and wildlife shits all over the place.
>>16173956Gretchen doesn't even care about global warming anymore, global warming is like 3 correct things ago for her, she was a coronavirus activist and now she is a palestine one
>>16193827shes trans now too, she calls herself greg now
>>16172786I agree with him, but he's so unhinge it makes me wonder if maybe the climate change fearmongers may be into something.
>>16172786>psychologist says somethingWOW!
>>16194836Are there any mainstream professional protester causes she isn't simping for?
>>16195201Not just any psychologist, a Jungian dream-interpreter
>>16197179Does being on /sci/ elevate your sexual archetype?
>>16197179How does being a Jungian psychologist make you an expert on climate sciences?
>>16196364No
Honestly who even cares school fucking sucks.The real point of science is to help me make a cool physics engine in my game using their equations.Like when did becoming a school nerd become cool?
>>16172786He's a retard. Any video about climate change gets that warning. I've seen it on woke cultists videos who fully promote the green scam and believe in climate change, opposition research. The AI just scans the audio for key words as well as the title+description. If you trigger the keyword "climate change" you get the warning. You'd think a doctor would have noticed that.
>>16198415Ah yes, but have you considered that the man is just an entertainer who intentionally says provocative shit to generate an audience?
>>16197187>How does being a Jungian psychologist make you an expert on climate sciences?The climate science is revealed to Jungian psychologists in dreams.
>>16198434Understanding human motivations makes it easy to understand when people are lying
>>16198434kek
>>16196366>t. I'm an expert on psychology, my qualifications are zero education and no professional experience whatsoever Thanks for your input, Professor Dunning Kruger
i say ur woman with fat boobies but that is not reality
>>16198390>Like when did becoming a school nerd become cool?The media promotes it as a means of promoting the degenerate atheist religion they're trying to shill on everyone in order to separate the goyims from their traditional belief systems
>>16197187You consider yourself an expert on the topic and you have no qualifications whatsoever, explain how that works
>>16172786just a wanker making a political statement to get cachet with his market base, he knows he is talking bullshit lol
>>16172786He is right about that
>>16182129They have dozens of other made up boogeymen they use for that same purpose. Theres the Pacific decadal oscillation, the Atlantic multidecadal oscillation, the Pacific–North American teleconnection pattern, etc. Theres no information about cause and effect for any of them, you can just go fishing for any sort of large scale temperature change over any vague region over whatever period of time and declare a new pattern after you've detected half a cycle of an imaginary pattern. And the same people who are "discovering" all these imaginary patterns and oscillations are all somehow incapable of presuming that global temperatures also oscillate. With global temperatures if they see a slight downward trend then its "OMG THE NEW ICE AGE IS HERE!!!" and if theres an upward trend "EARTH WILL EVENTUALLY BE AS HOT AS VENUS!!!"
Jordan Peterson would also tell that global warming is real if someone paid him. He has no real opinions.
>>16204025No he wouldn't, you're just projecting your own greedy, dishonest personality onto him because you're too egotistical to understand that there are people with more integrity than yourself
>>16172867>water evaporationSince you're an expert on climate change please explain how water vapor with a 1 week residence time can cause climate change.Please also explain how the climate continues to rise despite lower solar activity.
>>16172997Does another 100 parts CO2 per 1000,000 other parts really have that big an effect?I'm all for clean industrial practices but I just don't buy the fear mongering. It's been far too politicized.The climate may be changing but it's never been static
>>16172786Why would you trust a psychologist in the matters of climate change?
