Falcon above red clouds - editionprevious >>16257931
>>16259797what's about the trumptard one?
European sub-edition
>>16259804That's "Spaceflight Genera", not /sfg/
>>16259806>Europeansorry, we only discuss space here
>>16259807i wish you faggots wouldn't be so autistic.
>>16259806post rocket
https://x.com/dominickmatthew/status/1807056683014787228
>>16259808Europe is involved in space>>16259821Okay
>>16259812Assume I'm retarded and don't understand why this wouldn't work
>>16259826>that piece of shitHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>16259830If A6 is a piece of shit then so is Vulcan.
>>16259833correct, but vulcan looks better.
>>16259806What hubris does to a space agency
discuss the ground penetrating radar's radiation pattern
>>16259838Trukk nutz
>>16259838nice and bulbous, like a squid in a polyethylene bag.
>>16259826Ariane 6 only exists because europeans refused to see the writing on the wall when reusability was proven doableThey should've scrapped the thing and jumped straight into reusability research on their next main rocket
>>16259828i don't need to assume that
>"If it's Boeing, I ain't going"
>national space agencies are talking about using LLMs in their spacecrafts.it's over. the AI bubble has infiltrated everything.
>>16259849>bubblethe AI is here to stay
>>16259812There's no way this is real
>>16259822
Accurate simulation of IFT-5
>>16259838I would happily suck on those balls!
>>16259841Speaking of polyethylene, proonted HDPE is apparently capable of 350s Isp in a hybrid with LOX and the right nozzle. Vaya Space is working on it.>>16259842They should have just kept Ariane 5 flying with bigger parachute recovered boosters and added legs to it.
>>16259830Well, it's better than nothing.>>16259842True. Oh well.
>>16259849some of google's top ai researchers have been quitting to go work in llm-powered robotics startups. what we have right now is more than sufficient to output control commands based on sensory input data.
anyone know how that long march launch this morning went?
>>16259854Now do it in RP-1 with kOS
>>16259868https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1807031783592223098
downcomer
hybrid rocket engine
>>16259839Xbox 720
>>16259879they're pretty cool. wish they were more widely used although I understand why they aren't.
>>16259806Why is Canada in the European Space Agency?
If America annexed South Africa would Elon Musk be able to run for president?
>>16259822Cool how it actually looks like a dragon head here
>>16259854so much wobble
>>16259854kek
>>16259909Maybe having only two catch points was a bad idea
>>16259895Quebec basically.
SPEHS
>>16259797Amazing thread
https://x.com/MidnightMitch/status/1805962499193229325
>>16259934The red bells are kino but why paint them?
>>16259956is that paint or just some sort of covering to protect the bells
https://x.com/cnunezimages/status/1807077817446015063>Special Delivery - June 28, 2024
>>16259957paint is a protective covering
https://x.com/AnthonyFGomez/status/1806829735932301711
https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1806855104156328245
https://x.com/cnunezimages/status/1806865803720925590>Blessings entering Brazos Santiago Pass / South Padre Island - June 28, 2024
>>16259854Is Booster going to swing like that IRL as well?
>>16259978Jesus saves
>Orion Move to Vac Chamber >Technicians used a 30-ton crane to lift NASA’s Orion spacecraft on Friday, June 28, 2024, from the Final Assembly and System Testing (FAST) cell to the altitude chamber inside the Neil A. Armstrong Operations and Checkout building at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The spacecraft, which will be used for the Artemis II mission to orbit the Moon, underwent leak checks and end-to-end performance verification of the vehicle’s subsystems. https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20240628-PH-RDS01_0002
Can they even dig a trench there?
>>16259841>squid in a polyethylene bagI don't like ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf1oUkOHFtk
>>16259983>removal by certified window handler
>>16259986lol
>>16259983yeah it looks complicated, but not $1 billion complicated.maybe 100 million dollars. 250 because it's a small production run
There's no advancement in this thread, it's all hogle pogle yapping and chit chat. When are they truly going to advance in space travel? It seems as if they're just repeating the same old trick with the same old tech. Why are rockets the only method to take off into space? Who thinks that's the end? It's clearly a big con by weak minds who luckily got to the top and control those below. This thread is full of perverse dominatrices who clot the human minds, making us watch their shit show that's destined for failure. It's time to STAND UP with all your might and tell these dead idiots to invent something new or else suppression of paychecks. Fags
>>16259956>>16259957>>16259960Those are red protective inserts that are removed before flight, you can see in the picture they clip onto the nozzles on 2 sides
>>16259995The next big advancement is fully reusable rockets, schizo. Maybe also rotating detonation engines.
>>16259995be the change you wish to see in the world
>>16259999Good luck achieving nothing faggot. Luckily there are future lives and this academic wicwackery can be ignored while we prepare for other dimensions. Why don't you winge to the Jannie in your set up language of insults and get this voice against your regime suppressed? Who cares, as said, you earn nothing in the long run from this mentality - I'll just blend in and learn greater lessons.
>>16259999So what you can get more satellites into space for people to profit from and make thee most retarded kind of attempt to populate another planet using out-of-date tech like rockets.That's what you just called the future - imbecile.Right, I'm gonna leave you alone in your stupor and continue earning legitimate quota for the next dimensionality.
>>16258678Fallen shadow?
>>16259999rotating detonation engines, like aerospikes are a meme
>>16260017once the paradigm shifts such that rockets are expected to be reused, often hundreds of times with limited maintenance, RDEs will makes sense. much like it makes sense to have a more expensive jet engine for that little extra fuel efficiency, it adds up over the 20+ year lifespan of the engine.
>>16259956They linked up. Need it or keep it?
>>16259963>OLIT-BSo we are just naming stuff whatever we want now?
>>16260029i'm naming it the von braun memorial launch tower
The fact that NASA and Boeing keep screeching that everything is fine instead of ignoring the haters is just fueling their point.
Chang'e-6 return capsule
>>16260056Sorry chuddy, but Boeing astronauts are NOT stranded ;)
>>16260067Wait what the fuck the video changed when I downloaded it
>>16260069
>>16259852>>16259812It's real, I was there
>>16259820No one cares about your failed OP just do better next time
>>16260056Honestly, they probably will be fine. Whether or not they get everything worked out before the ISS plummets into Australia is another story
>>16260029yes
>>16259895They're more European than American, mostly Infian though.
>>16260068>chuddyYou need to go back
>non-spaceflight fags: BUTCH AND SUNNI ARE STRANDED IN SPAAAAACE>spaceflightfags: no they can come home any time you retarded fucks, nasa is just using this time to maximize starliner testing since the piece of shit wasnt tested properly by boingpeople shouldnt speak unless they're informed on a topic, leave discussion to subject matter experts
>>16260095Boeing shit is what gets clicks now
>>16260095>nasa is just using this time to maximize starliner testing since the piece of shit wasnt tested properly by boingTrue, but its also true that they're testing it rigorously because they dont know if they can come back safely and are thus stranded in a sense due to the fact that they cant even give a date on when to come back. Giving date would mean the vehicle is safe and testing it optional. Its not optional and they dont know for certain the condition of the vehicle.
>>16259981>>16259978Mechzilla arms/tower should look like this
>>16260029What happens after OLIT-Z?
>>16259853Spooky at night
>>16260095uninformed takes are more entertaining and i welcome them
youtubers are rich af, why doesnt timmy dodd go on bezos dildo ride? a single one of his videos could pay for a trip.
>>16260172I don't think he's THAT stupid.Besides there's a waiting list.It's only worth it if someone pays to send you up, like Shatner, etc.
Can someone summarize what the past week has been in spaceflight for me? Wasnt really paying much attention compared to week before because of off topic things I wont shit up /sfg/ with
>>16260205here's some bald guy who can do that for youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swD_yH2dJ9w
Every new study or sample collection just tells us there's more and more carbon on the moon. Carbon depletion fags BTFO eternally.
>>16260209>manletNo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ywCU4hGdjo>Tower Segments and Chopsticks Arrive as Tank Gets Slapped | SpaceX Boca Chica
>>16260217
>>16260219Good ridance.
>>16260219
>>16260215>someone spoonfeed me>no not like that
>>16260217they're holding hands. so sweet
https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/1807148589296021642>Mark your calendars for Alpha #FLTA005, officially scheduled to launch July 1 at 9:03 pm PDT. If you’re on the West Coast, this night launch may light up your sky, so be sure to tag Firefly with your best shots and use https://fireflyspace.com/missions/noise-of-summer/
> Was I a good space station?>....no
>>16260237That's not ISS, that is a kid game
>>16260232>you can see cali launches from austinwtf
Can you really call yourself a spaceflight nerd if you don't have your own satellite monitoring station?https://youtu.be/O-4HmRK1N-s
>>16260265people in galveston/houston reported seeing some SX florida launches like 2 months ago if memory serves me right
>>16260268its the first step towards being a card carrying member of a space force militia
>>16260323I think I would be chill to do a spacewalk somewhere out in the void but doing it over a planet is spooky af.
>>16260323love the glove making a bid for freedom
>>16260095If boeing wanted good optics they should not have done 3 different delay announcements with the last giving a date for some unknown time in july
Finally looks like /sfg/ is back to the normal activity. I think I figured out why we were flooded with retarded tourists the past few days too, /pol/ recently had a big reason for faggots to show up and since some of those tourists had heard of /sfg/ they came here and posted as well as on /pol/. Fucking politicels leaking out to every other board I bet as well. Thats why we got that recent horrendous Trump OP that misspelled general.
>>16260339It was because the main /sfg/ thread got stickied for IFT-4. And it crossed the fucking streams.Let's be sure to have a separate launch thread for IFT-5 next time./pol/ is still a big source of retards though
You thought it was someone else but it is India who have been screwing up Boeing all along.
>>16260361Hmmmm all I get from this is that Italians are cheap assholes
>>16260361>You thought it was someone elseI really didn't, this is exactly what I expected. Also>but also in Boeing's spacecraftImagine being sitting up there and reading that critical hardware on your ride back is made of poonesium instead of proper titanium
>>16260369Their cars build quality always suck so I'm inclined to agree.
>>16260369Their Vega rockets keep blowing up so I'm inclined to agree
>>16260369Their pizza is shit so I'm inclined to agree
>>16260361Do not redeem the aluminum maam
>>16260323Looks like claymation
>>16260109that would be so cool if Jesus closed his ams to catch the booster
Tianlong 3 first stage Static fire planned for tomorrow(this is roughly the size of a F9 first stage, with roughly the same thrust or a bit more)
>>16260361kek, based italians.I remember reading about some indian who scammed a swiss bank with fake copper: fake indian metal isn't so unusual.
>>16260361Buy American and hire American.
>>16260453America can't produce jack shit anymore. SpaceX is a minor miracle and even they buy their steel from Japan because they can't trust American companies to produce quality steel.
>>16260453LMAO
>>16260475>America can't produce jack shit anymoreThen start producing again.
>>16260475last time I checked I heard they were buying finnish steel.
>>16260323Which Gemini flight is that? cant quite remember now. i know it was shot at about 6fps whichever.
>>16260482>just start making quality goods again bro lmaoYou need competent and intelligent white or east asian workers, not fat fucks and mystery meat mutts. Ask TSMC about their American plant disaster and that's after billions were thrown at it as well as it being a critical defence product. Turns out when you offshore your industry for half a century, dumb everyone down with corn syrup and smartphones, import tens of millions of low IQ squatemalans and mix them all up in an unholy melting pot that it's pretty much impossible to recover what you had. SpaceX unironically has the majority of engineering talent in the country working for them.>>16260483All the rolls I have seen were stamped from Japan, maybe that has changed?
>>16260431When this launches the Long March 5 will be the only rocket China has that is bigger
>>16260508Yeah, although this may change quickly, Zhuque 3 and SAST's 4m reusable launcher are slightly larger and planned for next year, and CZ-10A is decently larger and planned for 2026Picrel are FH/F9/TL3/TL3H* to scale*planned for 2026... [X] doubt
>>16260526if the startup falcon clones are gonna be ready earlier than lm10 then why even make a lm10 at all?
>>16260526one of these days some chinese company is just going to photoshop their own logo onto a falcon 9.like honestly why do they make these proposals it's so low effort
>>16260529just spitballing here but LM10 is probably way more capable, plus it’s a flagship rocket (that is to say it gets priority r&d and resources) designed for use with mengzhou (aka crew-capable) from the drawing board
>>16260526>PRC Rockets are biggerAn auspicious sign.The Chinese people's march towards the Chinese Dream represents a coming sea-change in the geopolitical order.
>>16260529CZ10 (tricore) is an older concept and THE moon rocket (with hydrogen upper stage,man rated...), with the monocore CZ10A being a derivative of it.So the state owned CASC/CALT are doing their own thing for the national lunar program, the monocore version will mainly be used to launch Mengzhou (Shenzhou's successor) to Tiangong.TL3H is definitely not certain,and anyway, is not supposed to be manrated and lacks the high energy insertion performances since it's full kerolox.
>>16260526What's the benefit of having super heavy sized grid fins?
>>16260533I wouldn’t be surprised if F9 still outperforms it even with a smaller size
>>16260431It was suppose to launch this month, shameful delay
>>16260539What utterly baseless and insulting speculation.I demand that this poster rescind his false and inflammatory statement, which has deeply hurt the feelings of the chinese people.
>>16260531>like honestly why do they make these proposals it's so low effortWhy would you NOT just straight up copy a very successful launch system?
>>16260531how is making a Falcon 9 clone within five years of the company's founding low effort
>>16260543The chinese themselves have admitted Spacex is the bar that they are trying to emulate. I actually admire the chinese space program unfortunately
>>16260531>like honestly why do they make these proposals it's so low effortIt works and makes it easier to get funding.It's not just the chinese, look at ISRO's NGLV/Soorya, Arianegroup's Maia or KASA's KSLV-3 projects, all are "serious".
>>16260539AFAIK yes, TL3 is advertised with 17t to LEO in expendable mode and like 14t in downrange reusable, vs 22/17.5, but I may be wrong.That's despite TL3 being 30-40 tons heavier than F9
>>16260536they look cool
>>16260531I’ve spent enough time making fun of russians and europe for chasing the whole “F9 clone” thing poorly. Russia and Europe are now two rocket generations behind and are still chasing these retarded half-scale F9 concepts as we speak.I’m not surprised China wants to emulate (blatantly copy and steal if need be) what they see as the benchmark of rocketry. No one else is doing it. Also the chinese copy everything anyways so this isn’t out of left field to me I guess. not a chinaboo just need that itch scratched that I used to get out of russian spaceflight
Nope, not gettin' out of this chair.
>>16260552Either it has a lot of extra dry mass that haven't been able to optimize out or the Tianhuo-12 engines have significantly worse performance than the Merlin.
>>16260546It's honestly even quicker since they started out making monoprop engines lolTianlong 2 only started development in late 2020 iirc, then flew in April 2023. They're quite fast desu, up there with stokes and spacex.Funny that their CEO was the former COO at Landspace.
>>16260557RETURN THE SHIP OR SUFFER MY CURSE
>>16260558TH-12 vac has worse isp (335s) but otherwise it's close enough.
yall ready for the second wave? its gon be busy this year
Clear's interview at Mitsubishi Electric Kamakura Works.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz7v91Eiczo
>>16260587this is surreal
>>16260590insane
>>16260591wow thats just... crazy, its insane
>>16260596just thinking about it
a fucking tv
>>16260606those two dudes have the exact opposite chin lol
Please observe our american sized elevator.
>>16260616Fits one standard American+rascal scooter or two small Americans
>>16260612They aren't sending their best
reminder vtubers will never be able to go to space because they dont physically exist
I haven't paid any attention in like 2 months. Can someone get give me a QRD what happened with the last hop and whats going on with the boeing orbital sarcophagus?
>>16260626Last hop went exactly as planned, full kino. Boeing astronauts are dead men walking.
>>16260625Wrong. Anywhere a screen is sent a vtuber can be at.
if vtubers can go to space then virtual reality space vacations are real
>>16260627Are they in the capsule or on the ISS? Could they get a ride down in a dragon? What exactly is wrong with it?
>>16260628please let this happen it would be so fucking funny if an official mission had a vtuber on board and they were just a tv bolted to one of the seats
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1807251721149653157>Been waiting on this for a bit, NASA just dumped a bunch of their tracking footage from the GOES-U launch. Available for download here, large file but you will not regret it. 40 minutes of Falcon Heavy awesomeness:https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20240625-MH-AJN01-0001-GOES_U_Isolated_Launch_and_Landing_Views-M7629.mov
>"Russia plans to put people on Mars"http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2101861.stmHappening
>>16260638>Happeningno it is not
>>16260638> Vitaly Semyonov, head of the Mars project at the Keldysh Research Centre, said: "It must be an international project. No one country could cope alone with this task."
>>16260638Roscosmos regularly releases all kinds of stuff like this: they're notorious for their slideshow rockets/capsules.
>>16260632They are in the ISS with the capsule docked. Capsule was shitting its helium gas all the way to the ISS, developing more leaks all the way and starliner is currently on "indefinite safety review" while they try to figure out if it's going to kill them on the way down. It only can stay for 45 days though, will have to return soon and they will be on it. No way boeing takes the mega L on this one and there would have to be a whole reshuffling of rosters plus sending dragon up with empty seats to bring them back. The press would be so bad if they got rescued by Elon that they will 100% risk killing the poor bastards.
>>16260638web design used to be so much better, what happened. Now it’s just calart minimalism everywhere. Look at Space News, or NASA’s own website (they recently did another revamp ugh)
>>16260641no one country, just one company
>>16260638>2002kek
>>16260644Thanks for the summary. Wow, what a shitshow. I wonder how they feel knowing that they will probably have to ride that thing down again.
>>16260638>>16260650It's been 22 years and they haven't even started with the powerpoint presentation, then people complain about musk lol
>american sfg clear posts>russian sfg jessie postswho does chinese sfg post?
>>16260663late night european anons
>>16260106If there's this much uncertainty why won't they come back on a crew dragon, and let starliner attempt return autonomously? No need to risk life unnecessarily.
>>16260679>No need to risk life unnecessarilyTell that to boeing shareholders lol lmao
>>16260641>TL: we need to build a coalition of countries so that no one country can progress faster than us. It's basically the Artemis Accords' counterpart from the other axis of sovereigns not aligned with western democracies.
>>16260715China already did this though, and has been moderately successful.
>>16260638just after they take kyiv in just after three more days special military disaster
>>16260739back to /pol/ or wherever else.
>>16260739Holy shit fuck off /pol/cel or /k/ike, whatever rat you are.
>>16260751You seem upset.
zubrin
>>16260265That's an oddly specific place to be surprised about, considering Austin is in fact part of California.
>>16260757>*SNIFF*
>>16260756Go back
>>16260777scented lucky trips
>>16260757I hope I get to shake his hand and hug him before I die. I shook Sam Hyde's hand
>>16260529because the Falcon clones are investor bait
new slosskino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuVtn4XFt5Q
>>16259895because US refused to share rocket technology with third world countries
https://x.com/J1NFENG/status/1807334917031825869https://x.com/alphacharlie89/status/1807325869687316618nominal chinese static fire
>>16260874how the fuck
>>16260874Kino
>>16260874implessive
>>16260874Alright, this Is by far the most Kerbal thing ever Sorry SpaceX, this takes the cake over all your explosions.Does this count as a launch failure?
>>16260887I think this counts as just a failure
>>16260874holy shit
Maybe one day with all these chinese companies we will see a rocket flying straight into city
>>16260874clearly starship flaps are unnecessary for belly flop maneuverthey could work on the touchdown though
This is what they accidentally launched, apparently
>>16259838looks like something you'd see on /d/ if you imagine an anime girl's head on it
>>16259874Have the lower stages come down and gassed a peasant village with nitrogen tetroxide yet?
>>16260894Nah, for once this is a Kerolox first stage launching from the coast toward the sea.
>>16260874Damn, static fire hold down failure's a new one.
>>16260887it's not supposed to be a launch
>>16260888but it successfully launched kek
hey anons, I want to build a vertical test stand for a rocket stage.anyone have any tips for what to design it to not do?
>>16260874Would not want to be the bug in charge of one. Bro is about to be put against the wall.
>>16260901Don't forget to use a strong rope, you wouldn't want for rocket to fly away.
>>162608871 flight out of 0 launch attemptsit's the opposite of a failure
>>16260874>>16260889PIIIISSSSSSSS
>>16260901nta but now I'm genuinely curious too, with the amount of space societies out there someone, somewhere must have thought out at least a system for that.
>>16260908with strong ropes unironically
>>16260910>Adam cuker Very unfortunate name
now i'm curious what kind of monster clamps the OLM has for super heavy static fires
>>16260913
>>16260913It doesn't, they don't static fire at full thrust or it would fuck off when TWR hit 1I'm starting to believe that's why it's able to lift-off with flamed out engines, there's no way to ramp up to full power and hold it for engine checks until t-0
>>16260892>>16260910china missed the memo on copying this
>>16260912Actually no, Cuker implies he's the one who does the cuking, thus making him a chad bull. If his name was just Cuk then it would be unfortunate.
>>16260874You must learn to walk before you can crawl
>>16260874they have no AFTS systems it seems like? lmao
>>16260919i don't think you want to activate FTS on the test stand for a static fire, however for this failure mode.....
>>16260919I mean it was a static fire. Even spacex doesn't have FTS installed for static fire kek.
THIS *CLAP* IS *CLAP* WHY *CLAP* WE *CLAP* TEST
"Long March" is a very apt name for Chinese rockets.
>>16260874I better not hear any shit about DEI competency crisis in the US from now on if China is going to keep doing this comedic shit.
Starliner status?
>>16260941Status: Fagpotted.
>>16260941we're testing it's shitty thrusters at work next week. And it's a short week so expect typical rushing to vacation mode quality from us :)
>>16260941SNAFU
>>16260941Just whenever you know. Hard dates are like white privilege really
>>16260947SituationNorminalAndFullyUnderstood
>>16260536>Big glid fin make locket easier to controrr, prease undelstand.Yeah, seems they need the super large training wheels sized grid fins. There's no other reason to add that much extra mass when F9 only needs half as much for the same size class rocket.But at least they aren't burying their heads in the sand about reusability like the yuropeons.
>>16260657At least Bozos has been trying to build an orbital rocket with his 22 years. puccia is still trying to get their powerpoints in order.
>>16260892You can't fool me, that's the smokestack from a bathhouse.
>>16260874>no red meme cloudsCan they into cryogenics?
>>16260587wtf is going on
>>16260975this was like 5 years ago right, what is that dude up to now? might be in college
https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1807355101595476117last vertical tank removed
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/6K2mdDWviOlk30oU-JH90QUhmSpace pioneer are refusing to call it the test failure, only say that there was a "structural failure between the rocket and the stand"They then boast that they broke a record in thrust level during test of chinese launchers and reached twice higher thrust than previous test by other companies.
>>16260997the world's first successful dynamic fire test
>>16260919Did they have no radiolink to command engine shutdown or was the flight cut short? Wouldn't you want that to try as you fly.
>>16260874s-static fire?????
>>16260874TWR > 1 confirmedchina WONchina WONchina WON
>>16260874Kek I assume it wasn’t supposed to leave the test stand, this is hilarious
>>16260874
>>16261018kek
>>16260874This is why we have FTS.
>>16261013well yeah, hence 'static' fire
>>16261009
>>16261013Did someone forget to reinstall the bolts?
uh oh scifi faggots. actual real physicists spoke.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UjlSOF1Cvg
>>162610412 EDS faggots seethingare they saying anything interesting?
>>16261041Counterargument: he's a jew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrUP9faAq3M>Launch of Advanced Land Observing Satellite-4 “DAICHI-4” (ALOS-4) aboard the third H3 Launch VehicleH3 launch in 13h
>>16260982It's Space Pioneer's TL-3 first stage>>16261021>FTSThere was never supposed to be any F in the first place
https://www.space.com/the-new-space-race-international-partnershipsarticle from Charles Bolden, kind of a nothinbgurger article but the name got my attentionat least the article seems kind of positive towards private companies operating in space
>>16261045ganbatte riachan
>>16261040>>16260881High quarity chinese steer wire.The hold-down cables failed.
>>162605291. LM-10 can send 26t to TLI, the other rockets can't2. Hedging redundancy3. Competition4. CASC will have a huge installed production capacity of YF-100 engines and nothing better to do with it once the LM-6/7/8/12 expendables become obsolete in the near future, so they might as well use YF-100-based engines for a reusable rocket and for the lunar program
>>16261041watched a few sections and this fag keeps shilling his channel and mailing lists and whatever lmao
>>16260874Is China meant to be a space fairing nation?
>>16261057>>16261042actually wasnt as bad I thought it would be (didn't watch the whole thing though)basically both of them acknowledge what musk has accomplished but zach at least thinks the city on mars is not feasible, not sure about brian keating but he probably agrees
>>16260431>>16260874KEKhttps://x.com/AJ_FI/status/1807339807640518690
>>16261075
>>16261075>>16261076that's actually not badit's a working rocket
>>16261079Unironically lasted longer than that Japanese private launcher that did its first launch in march and exploded after 5 seconds.
>>16261075>>16261076>chinese space industry is so powerful it's rockets are launching themselvesIt's over for us western bros.
>>16261063>>16261041So they're not building anything, but rather want something building to stop because they dont like him calling out their marxist ideology?
>>16261075Her soul tried to flee communist China.
>>16261076this is why we test™
china playing kerbal space program in real life
>>16261076why do they insist on crashing rockets in populated areas?
>>16261106cause it's based to terrorize the population letting them know Xi can make them disappear in accidents anytime if they start running their mouth.
>>16261112me when I make an answer up
>>16261106Beijing just doesn't care about rural China. If a town has enough infrastructure to support your rocket scientists then you build the factory there. The increased danger to the locals just doesn't matter enough.
>>16261124but what about all the blowback china is getting from internet based spaceflight communities?
>>16261127kek
>>16261054>CompetitionThis is a big one. Falcon 9 prices are still mostly determined by where the legacy prices for the Proton and Ariane 5 were. People were talking about how reuse would bring about a collapse in launch costs but it's really the second reusable vehicle to hit the market that does that.
>>16261135>it's really the second reusable vehicle to hit the market that does that.the second company to develop a reusable rocket
>>16261106>insist onThis liftoff wasn't supposed to happenThe location of Xichang for a launch site was chosen due to military-strategic considerations during the Cold War. It was a location that was relatively well protected from attack yet also at sufficiently low latitude for GEO launches. Up until the 2010s, there was little money for spaceflight in China, so it was hard to justify allocating space funds on the construction of a brand new launch site just because of the spent stage issue. During the 2010's there was more money for space and a new launch site was built. However the new coastal launch site at Wenchang was built for the next generation rockets, that use kerolox propellant. Those kerolox rockets got delayed and the production ramp-up has been slow. Hence why they're still launching from Xichang and dropping the spent stages over populated areas.The cadence at Wenchang is likely to increase dramatically in the near future. They're building a new double-pad launch complex (HICAL), a new double-door VAB for WSLC pad 201, a new Long March 8 final assembly and test facility designed to process 50 rockets per year, and a brand new pad and VAB at WSLC for the Long March 10. So Xichang might get shut down in the not too distant future.>CASC’s Xi’an-based Sixth Academy is also ramping up production of the YF-100 kerosene-liquid oxygen engines which power many of China’s newer Long March rockets. 80 engines are expected to be delivered this year, up from 60 in 2022, allowing a wider use of these rockets.>“In the near future, Wenchang will see its launch frequency go from between six to eight times a year, to 20 or 30 times a year,”https://spacenews.com/new-chinese-commercial-spaceport-to-host-first-launch-next-year
>>16260542It did launch this month.
>>16261075>no fairing on topWell THERE'S your problem!
>>16261159CHECKYOSTAGIN'
>>16261093The real test was actually a test of the test stand
>>16260407Say that to my face you Godless animal
>During the test, the first-stage rocket ignited normally, and the engine thrust reached 820 tons. Due to the structural failure of the connection between the rocket body and the test bench, the first-stage rocket was separated from the launch pad. After liftoff, the onboard computer automatically shut down the engines, and the rocket fell into the mountains 1.5 km southwest of the test bench and disintegrated. The test site is far away from the urban area of Gongyi. Before the test, we jointly improved the safety measures with the local government and organized the evacuation of surrounding personnel in advance. After investigation, there were no casualties.>After liftoff, the onboard computer automatically shut down the engines
>>16261162lmao
>>16261165interesting that the flight computer ordered the shut down
>>16261165Well, the huge explosion at the end indicates that it wasn't a lack of propellant that caused the rocket engines to shut down
>>16261170Yeah, but it took like good 15 seconds
>>16261165>flight computer shut down the enginesWhy the fuck wasn't there someone hitting a kill switch.
>>16261172Would you? Cool rogget go up!
>>16261172I don't think it had one, it was a test tank, running an automated engine programme
once the rockets are on the test stand, who cares where they come down. that's not my department
forget Hubble, Isaacman should go do a Mars Global Surveyor rescue mission
>>16261172same reason they don't stop when running over someone: the guy hitting the kill switch would have to pay off any potential casualty
>>16261172Range safety officer was being held back, many such cases!
>>16261181https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1807333500464591232>BTW apparently the test stand is in a disused quarry somewhere like 4-5 km away from the city of Gongyi in Henan Province, just west of major city Zhengzhou and east of the old Chinese capital Luoyang.>Possible location of the test stand, via @Harry__Strangerhttps://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2%B042'32.4%22N+113%C2%B003'03.9%22EI think it's a very good thing the rocket decided to head south because if it had gone the other way things get urban very quickly
>>16261079*woking rocket
>>16261159I just want you to know that this caused me physical paingod damn
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1807433677820809595
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1807432832295239833
>>16261215what a funny man
>>16261215Petition to rename Uranus to Urectum
>>16261222just pronounce it like uranium or uranyl
>>16261165>The test site is far away from the urban area of GongyiYou literally saw someone film the rocket falling down with his shitty chink phone from his apartment lmfao
zhang is about to expose yall
^ fag
>>16261244America isn't worried about being exposed, we're worried that China's going to be as kind to America's monuments on the moon as their average Tourist is anywhere else in the world, but with political motivation and pressure by the CCP to be assholes about it.
>>16261222Rectum? Damn near killed em!
>>16261281doh ho ho ho ho
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1807447754974626113>A look inside Megabay 2 from Friday's flyover:https://www.youtube.com/live/g7xK6LUYjdI
>>16261244Finally we're reaching the compromise stage of the conspiracy, the moon landing was by Kubrick, in a studio on the moon
>>16261211Huge
>>16260638>мapcI know the t-series turrets are thoroughly flight proven by now but that's really pushing it.
>>16260874Lol
>>16261041the weinersteins are really somethin
>>16261310I've always wondered, what's the landing-denier's explanation for the huge fuckup that was Apollo 13? Those guys nearly died, if we were really faking space accomplishments to dab on USSR then that's a weird false flag to commit on yourselves.
>>16261180
>>16261374Political theater is the answer they go with. I've seen guys who believe that landers went to the moon, but people didn't, that the entire program was unmanned. In the case of 13, these people believe that the incident caused them to abort the mission, and create a spectacle that people could grip onto while no one was in any real danger.
>>16260874This one of those chinese falcon 9 clones i keep hearing so much about?
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1807459081415708968
>>16261425Yeah this was supposed to be the first one and (properly) launch this year.
>>16261118The real answer is the CCP literally does not give a flying fuck about the rural chinese where these rockets come down. And if you believe otherwise your a fool.
>>16261215Isn't there a launch window for Uranus coming up relatively soon? Maybe Neptune as well?They really need to hurry up and build Cassini type missions for both, I want to see higher resolution images of the planets before I die.But I've seen no talks about preparing for the launch window, looks like they're happy with the images from the 80s.
>>16261440They do give a shit about the optics of it since the pesky civilians keep filming it.
>>16261465Only thing they are going to do is make a example out of those who leaked those vids and tighten the great CCP firewall around the rural towns even more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5DK-E5N8Qw>Bang! SpaceX Tests Catching Superheavy With Mechazilla! - SpaceX Weekly #121
Chang'e 6 might have discovered graphene on the moonso a carbon source
>>16261427The flame trench is real
>>16261474Is there a rocket girl with a bruised eye with Musk beating her yet?
>>16261496do not the anime girl
>>16261496too crude
>>16261496based
just found out there is a falcon 9 on display 20 minutes from my house. pretty cool to finally see one in person
>>16261351>weinersteinsI would rather trust the jews than random Elon Musk fans on 4chan.2x2md
>>16261516looks like a similar display mechanism as the one at JSC. If that’s the case you can jump and scrape the engine and get soot on your finger
>category 4 or 5 hurricane expected to make landfall in northern mexico next weekendwill starbase survive?
>>16261496No, but i bet there is a pic of musk surrounded by pregnant anime girls.
>>16261559Has industrialization really affected the climate of earth to create these hotter summers and larger weather patterns?
>>16261579yes and that's a good thing
Lmao, there is a fake SpaceX crypto AI scam stream up 23k live viewers.
>>16261596You're new. There's few live 24/7 for the last decade or so.
>>16261597kino
>>16260874It would appear that the rocket works
the random plot of land is getting surrounded by foundations
>>16261624
>>16261633
>>16261516How many of these are on display? I thought they were only at KSC, Hawthorne, and Space Center Houston?
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1807477953984709022
>>16261579From the IPCC AR6 report Ch.11:>It is likely that the global proportion of Category 3–5 tropical cyclone instances2has increased over the past four decades. The average location where TCs reach their peak wind intensity has very likely migrated poleward in the western North Pacific Ocean since the 1940s, and TC translation speed has likely slowed over the conterminous USA since 1900. Evidence of similar trends in other regions is not robust. The global frequency of TC rapid intensification events has likely increased over the past four decades. None of these changes can be explained by natural variability alone (medium confidence).>The proportion of intense TCs, average peak TC wind speeds, and peak wind speeds of the most intense TCs will increase on the global scale with increasing global warming (high confidence). The total global frequency of TC formation will decrease or remain unchanged with increasing global warming (medium confidence). {11.7.1}
Will the trench be water cooled?
https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/18074808184593899834th time's the charm
>>16261651in their final act of justice, the earthers launched a massive nuclear attack against every space colony, wiping them out as the earth gets turned to venus by climate change. "if we dont get to survive then you fucks dont get to either".
>>16261638according to Wikipedia's list of falcon 9 boosters, this is the only other one on display. although there are several others listed as retired. not sure where they are or if they're in displayable condition.
>>16261647calling it now, raised OLM, directional flame trench with water blasting all the exhaust to one side instead of all from the bottom
>>16261660>Reusability is critical to making multiplanetary life financially possible>Posted June 2009Wow, he's actually been committed to that tagline longer than I thought
imagine the smell
>>16261651>It is likely that>has very likely migrated >has likely slowed>Evidence of similar trends is not robust>events has likely increased >The proportion of intense TCs, average peak TC wind speeds, and peak wind speeds of the most intense TCs will increase on the global scale with increasing global warming (high confidence)Here's a lot of vague statements about things that we've got hard data on and could give a strong yes/no answer on, followed by an unambitious prediction about what's going to happen in the future. This is why most climatologists get stuffed in the same box that we keep astrologers in.
>>16261679india is really obsessed with the color of shit
>>16261711you should see a doctor
>>16261711Sometimes an exhaust is just an exhaust
>>16261660Recreated with CHATGPT with Starship context from the screenshot in html/js. lol
>>16261719Sometimes the exhaust is just a hyper-corrosive and deadly toxin
>>16261687>astrologersmuch less nefarious, they're not sneakily advocating communism as the climatoids do
>>16261190>Space "Pioneer">don't actually do any pioneering at all>blatantly copy (poorly at that) Falcon 9>almost crash it into a nearby city in what was supposed to be a static fire
https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/1807487625105703022>Ready to make some noise? It’s L-1 for Alpha FLTA005 Noise of Summer, a mission for NASA VCLS. The weather is GO for launch from SLD 30 at 9:03 pm PDT tomorrow. Livestream co-hosted with @NASAspaceflight will begin at T-30 minutes to liftoff. A 9:00 PM launch will be well into nautical twilight, so we should get a good jellyfish from this one
>>1626178931h
>>16261769>humans against space colonizationTraitors, we call those "people" traitors.
>>16261789>Livestream co-hosted with @NASAspaceflightI will not be watching
>H3, firefly alpha, hyperbola-1the next 24 hours are going to be interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3-Kw9u37I0Hullo!
https://www.youtube.com/live/vpa8yoc5INcWe're just under 7.5 hours to the next H3 launch, and it's just starting to brighten up at Tanegashima. The launch will be just after noon local time. Has Japan ever conducted a night launch? I can't remember any.
>>16261825has the lady started counting down aloud every second yet?
Boca Chica floods.........
>>16261828Japanese counting is funnyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiosKUO7oqo&ab_channel=heiakim
>>16261845*StarbaseIt's rude to dead name.
>>16261440>>16261465>>16261472nice headcanon
>>16261895Would this even have enough Delta V to reach orbit?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1807511645239054714>Side Booster Separation & Boostback Burn of Falcon Heavy - Stabilized
>>16261900
>>16261896easily? getting off the ground would be its problem.
>>16261915That's what I mean. The gravity losses.
>>16261819>2:40Editing error lel
>>16261900>>16261908that's insane
>>16261076the rocket was probably made out of tofu
>>16261927corncrete hold-downs
https://x.com/stocktalkweekly/status/1807519745832583224
>>16261930holeee sht
Is this homo threatening rape?
>>16261520ooof
>>16261930BUSTED!
>>16261930Okay, big news. I get it. But fraud for what? Which of their many ongoing disasters are they being called out over?
>>16261958https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1807525723529195709
>>16261554I found the JSC one on Google Maps street view a couple of months ago. But I had to go to the highway and look from there because google didn't have an up-to-date view from the parking lot or from submitted panoramic views.
>>16261930>>16261960Why only now?
>>16261963Courts are slow and boeing has many allies
>>16261949If they arent stranded, why arent they coming back?
>>16261963>>16261966They had an agreement to postpone charges if they were good boys, which expired just before the Alaskan Air door incident, so now they're getting what was coming to them.
>>16261960Okay, so it's 787 Max stuff. Not the KC-46 Pegasus issues or the 737s falling apart midair or the dead whistleblowers or the compliance testing fraud. I guess the justice department hasn't quite caught up to those yet.
>>16261963see what happens with the Boeing whistleblowers? I bet the goons at the Justice Department were taking time to setup bunkers to prevent themselves from getting epsteined by Boeing.
>>16261960Man thats crazy
>>16261244Imagine the state of this general if they go there and there is genuinely nothing there, followed by a chinkoid flag planting.
>>16261979that would make every TV stations and every social media website explode, not just this general.
>>16261624Think about how much money you could make selling food and drinks with forced to give a right awayYet the owners just seethe impotently
>>16261624This plot of land is going to be there until the sun expands to consume the earth. I fucking hate boomers so much bros, I'm sure this cunt got offered 10-20x what he paid for this piece of dirt in the middle of nowhere but nothing is ever enough for these greedy fucks.
>>16262035It's shaping up to be an uncharacteristically shitty day in beautiful and scenic Tanegashima
>>16261982And no one would simply say the Chinese are lying like usual?
>>16261664there's a Falcon heavy booster on display at the KSC visitor complex
>>16261967they can probably come back. they just didn't bother to check if they could before going up.
>>16259828It's not that easy in rocketry.
>>16261960the executives who agreed to that are probably long gone by now
Please let the mcdonnell douglas taint die with boeing.I really hope no one buys them up and all the execs scatter to the winds, never to coalesce again.
