Falcon 9 grounded - editionprevious >>16276674
was waiting for this but too lazy to do it myself
spam thread >>16279314 was staged first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W676Kk9LSYwAriane Director laughs about SpaceX (2013)
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>>16279321Reminder, 2 WEEKS UNTIL LAUNCHfor both Starship and Falcon 9 (investigation resoluation)
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/the-unmatched-streak-of-perfection-with-spacexs-falcon-9-rocket-is-over/>"The FAA will be involved in every step of the investigation process and must approve SpaceX’s final report, including any corrective actions," an FAA spokesperson said. "A return to flight is based on the FAA determining that any system, process, or procedure related to the mishap does not affect public safety.">Two crew missions are supposed to launch on SpaceX's human-rated Falcon 9 rocket in the next six weeks, but those launch dates are now in doubt.
>>16279339>Going into Thursday's mission, the current version of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket, known as the Falcon 9 Block 5, was indisputably the most reliable launch vehicle in history. Since debuting in May 2018, the Falcon 9 Block 5, which NASA has certified for astronaut flights, never had a mission failure in all of its 297 launches before the ill-fated Starlink 9-3 mission.first block 5 failure in 297 launches
>>16279327if only Ariane 6's reentry test payloads were on falcon, they wouldn't be stuck in orbit for decades.
>>16279339>tHiS iS wHy We HaVe ReDuNdAnT sYsTeMsmeanwhile Starliner is years late and is stuck at the ISS
frog
>>16279325this, >>16279314 was posted 10 minutes earlier, so >>16279314 is the real /sfg/
>>16279350don't be a faggot, don't make faggot threads
>>16279353don't be so easily triggered and emotionally fragile when you see space news that upsets you. its nobody's fault but your own that you're a transphobic bigot
>>16279321Is it over?It feels over.
>>16279365it's only just beginningmuch as a wildfire clears way for new saplings, the grounding of falcon is the push that industry needs to truly accept its successor
There are people in this thread who don't remember AMOS-6
>>16279325yeah but it's gay>>16279327stupid frogposter
>>16279325Just made a post in your thread, hope you like it
>>16279370I remember AMOS-6, Falcon was grounded for a long time iirc
So how did /ULAsniper/ manage to nail that shot during second stage flight? What technology is Tory not telling us about?
>>16279376No sniper needed, this was obviously done during construction.
>>16279363"look at me I am gay" is not space news
Sorry, but I won't be able to post in this thread because I killed myself a few hours ago when I heard the news
Hullo is talking about the failure and engine ratshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St-yEc6fyLg
>>16279321squeak squeak
>>16279386damn engine rats...THEY TOLD ME YOU CUTE BUGGERS WERE HARMLESS!!!
>>16279376Brilliant Pebbles
>>16279389not de-mouse-ing their vehicle integration facility finally bit them when one of the buggers chewed through a lox line
>>16279389Turns out it gnawed through the fuel line
anyone here besides me actually remember the super old times /sci/ schizo who would post the gifs about the engine ice rats in like 2014
>>16279339>"The FAA will be involved in every step of the investigation process and must approve SpaceX’s final report, including any corrective actions,"well, it's over, it was good while it lasted. see you guys next year.
>>16279397/sfg/ isn't that old but vaguely, yeah.
So how long is f9 grounded?2 weeks?a month?a year?
>>16279404Two weeks, always
>>16279321>americans get overconfident>2nd stage of Falcon explodes>Shartliner crew stuck in the ISSHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>16279363There's a whole entire board for you to go be gay in. Leave it in there.
>>16279404Where are we? Help me to recollect
>>16279404Space Force needs it flying asap so the FAA will be sent to space Gitmo if they interfere more than the bare minimum.
WHEN YOU'RE TRAPPED ON THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION... NO ONE CAN HEAR YOU SCREAM (EXCEPT FOR YOUR FELLOW ASTRONAUTS... AND MISSION CONTROL... AND WHOEVER YOU'RE SKYPEING WITH)
>>16279404My money is on 3 to 5 weeks
>Due to the SpaceX failure NASA has decided to reward the Space Station deorbit contract to Boeing Starliner. Astronauts onboard the station will power on the stranded Starliners propulsion system and when deorbit is required
>>16279408we win again, mon ami
>>16279391kek, the ULA slingshotter
Someone talk about how Europa Clipper is gonna be delayed because a contractor delivered malfunctional chips.
>>16279413>Semitic Standard
>>16279424Brainwormsgo outside
For the "however-many-ith" time, NASA and/or SpaceX is NOT planning a "rescue Dragon mission" to bring Barry and Suni back to Earth.
The two astronauts that are now """""stranded in space""""" :We see this as an absolute win
>>16279422radiation hardening MOSFETs is the way of the past. the future is having 3 or more voting MOSFETs and taking the output that 2 agree on
>>16279435okay but what about the logic that does all that? And what if radiation permanently somehow fucks up a mosfet.
>>16279427>t.Jew
SPEHS
>>16279389they are harmless, they just chose to escapeyou do not blame a sinking ship on the rats that are fleeing it
>>16279397maybe, I don't think I came to /sci/ that often back then
>>16279424No it's "Semiotic", you know like Semitic and Idiotic all mashed together (like Boeing)
>>16279452"semiotic" means "flags" or "signs"
>>16279422Not only knew the chips were bad but deliberately did not inform NASA after discovering the issue.
>>16279321From the previous thread:>The two Starliner astronauts went to space without two suitcases they packed with clothes and toiletries because NASA needed to squeeze a bathroom pump on board their flight. It’s not yet clear whether NASA will be forced to delay that resupply mission.I absolutely refuse to believe this is true and those two are now stranded up there without anything but the clothes on their backs (oh and a toilet pump apparently)
So what are we guessing happened?I bet another it/they decided to show Elon who's boss and let a part fail.Or the boomer who's been there too long didn't do proper QC and it allowed a faulty part through inspection.Somebody's losing their job over this, lol.
>>16279454>t. Sheldon Cooper
>>16279460Maybe a part that was mad out of some of that fake Chinese titanium that was in the news a while back
>>16279438>And what if radiation permanently somehow fucks up a mosfet.It's dangerous to have space probes get their brains scrambled, the Six Million Dollar Man taught us that
>>16279460The majority of SpaceX employees are there less than a year there is no such thing as boomer who's been there too long at that company outside of management
>>16279430so from what I've learned about this whole field is this means they have now begun preparing (in secret) for a rescue mission
>>16279467>The majority of SpaceX employees are there less than a year there is no such thing as boomer who's been there too long at that company outside of managementBoomers are old and at retirement age. Some people work their whole lives instead of staying home with their failing health. I don't need to be working behind David and doing his job because hes an alcoholic but hides it pretty well. They won't fire him because I catch all of his mistakes.
So what is the cope for the impeding chinese-style uncontrolled reentry óf the failed Starlinks? They might literally fly over my house.
>>16279473Burning up in atmosphere within few days
>>16279473they've already started reentering
Static fire campaign starts next weekhttps://x.com/SheriffGarza/status/1811888279706309012
>>16279473They already burned up over Argentina. They only had a perigee of 135 km and they were losing 5 km every orbit
>>16279339This is karma in action
>>16279397only thing I remember from 2014 on the top of my head is watching maidan lifestreams
>>162794582 months in the same clothes, no wonder the ISS smells like shit
>>16279473>impendingBurned up 12 hours ago
>>16279446they just aren't as good looking as Saturn
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1811894387577909380>A statement from NASA on the Falcon 9 launch failure and implications for upcoming agency missions:
>>16279482the one starlink that had its ephemera updated was increasing its perigee (though dropping apogee). This might have been the exploded second stage though.
>>16279404A few weeks I guess.
EUROPA CLIPPER BROSNot like this
>>16279499>the exploded second stage thoughdidn't the press state the 2nd stage survived the engine RUD?
>>162794812 WEEKS TILL LAUNCH
>>16279495Are those autobots or decepticons
>>16279507There are backup launch windows for at least the next two years. This is a delay, not a disasterLaunching on a long trip to a high radiation environment with shitty Soviet-grade computers would be a disaster
>>16279495>¿Meteoritos?>¡No es meteoritos!>Es actualememtes Starlinkos
>>16279488haha yeah
>>16279508An intact 2nd stage with no deltav is just as worthless as an exploded stage
Whoever OP was, amazing job.
>>16279521This calls for a round of applause. Like wow, it's insane.
>>16279481>>16279510August 15
I'm going on a sex strike until Falcon 9 flies againWho else is with me?If the ladies want /sfg/ dick again they'd better get regulatory approval for more flights
I predict Starship will get FAA approval before F9 and fly before it as well
>son I am disappoint
that disaster came freakishly close to being a major danger to the public. spacex should have a hard cp imposed so they stop doing ridiculous launch cadence with no quality control. 30 launches a year max. decrease every time they fail, including with starship.
>>16279588Buy an ad
Cygnus — filled with trash packed by the station crew — will be commanded to deorbit on Saturday, July 13, setting up a destructive re-entry in which the spacecraft will safely burn up in Earth's atmosphere.
>>16279588I think spacex deserves a state sponsored monopoly
>>16279588lmao
>>16279588Listen, Delta, I already follow you on Twitter. You don't need to shill yourself like this. Doomerism is cringe anyway
>>16279588NASA has proven beyond a doubt with SLS that one launch every three/four years leads to flawless performance, SpaceX should be forced to throttle back to this more sensible cadence.
>>16279586a repeected chruman gentliman
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1811802568042971148
>>16279607
>>16279612Go tell them you want more launches than that
>>16279612See you there bros, you'll recognise me as the dude holding the placard sign that saysDEATH TO EARTHERSBEAHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT SPACEX
>boot up KSP for first time in a while>get a massive popup after loading, "TWEAKSCALE NO LONGER WORKS WITH CKAN!! READ MY RANT ON MY BLOG"What autistic dispute caused this? I just want to pretend I'm smart for choosing 2.5m engine AB instead of 2.5m engine AA
>>16279612Kino is back on the menu
>>16279612Gonna go there, eyeball people as they come out of their cats to see which car belongs to who and then key the cars of the dipshits who oppose manifest destiny
>>16279623twinkscale got his gf fucked by ckan guy and she ran off with him
>>16279612Biweekly is a good start. Biweekly would be even better.
Based on the dimensions described in https://www.patrick.spaceforce.mil/Portals/14/Draft%20EA%20and%20FONSI%20for%20Stoke%20Space%20Nova%20Launch%20Program%2C%20CCSFS.pdfThese are quick edits showing what the current Nova Stokes should look like, with the official render for reference. The largest diameter of the S2 isn't described so I edited various possibilities.
>>16279588Retard take
>>16279446>Never launch me or my son again
So... Delayed until when?
>>16279655okay
>>16279663Forever
>>16279663NET July 31(falcon will be flying twice a week again by then)
>>16279643rightmost has a great shape
>>16279507falcon heavy is a different vehicle :^)
>haters don't understand that this anomaly will make F9 even safer in the future
Would this ever be a legitimate rocket engine design? Or will it forever be left in the "that's cool" category? Particularly as a first stage or even as the main propulsion for an SSTO?
https://x.com/C_Bass3d/status/1811540605379453334Bretty cool 3D of dragon space walk
>>16279696pulsed NTRs are never going to give you anywhere near enough thrust for takeoff
>>16279693Engineering defect, manufacturing defect, or other form of process escape; either way, now they're looking for all of these, which will see benefits wrought across SpaceX's product lineup as they incorporate process improvements.
>>16279693Yes. In fact they should be launch rockets even faster to find out all the 1 in 1000, 1 in 10000 chances early on so that they can optimize for 1 in 1,000,000 chance failures.
>>16279612I%T"S HAPPENENIIIIINGNGNN AAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAA
>>16279711The design gives you semi-torchship like thrust for its mass. That's the whole gimmick with the pulsed mode. You can heat the propellant super hot without melting the core (assuming the cooling system is good enough to handle it).
When will manned space warships be a thing and how will they look /sfg/?
He's got a point
>>16279722he should start focusing on launching more than 3 rockets per year
>>16279722Nope. The only point he wants to get across is that FAA investigation may be lengthy. Which is a fault of the over regulated system. If FAA investigation is swift and covers 90% of the bases, then its a non issue
>>16279664ouch
>>16279722>now pay me $1 billion a year just to exist
he finally did it. 1000 starships launches per year incoming
>>16279693Also it's comfy that "reused" is turning out to be so reassuring
>>16279743maybe he should've used that money to fix starship's problems first?
>>16279750I prefer "flight proven"
>>16279743Concerning
>>16279753Me too, I shouldn't have put it in quotes
>>16279754Ah yes, the terror of astroturfed trends.
>>16279636Cheers. I'm going to keep waiting for my 30,000 Mod Manager patches to load and keep coming up with ideas for Boing launches (like launching from woomerang but going interplanetary, or running out of food... on the way to the Mun)
>>16279751He is. This money is going to fix the regulatory side of Starship's problems.
Curiosity is gonna get stuck.
>>16279768I can't believe how many missions end earlier than they had to simply due to mass autism. There's no way that any rover's wheels would ever fail like that if they had a SHLV's mass budget to work with
>>16279768Why does NASA photoshop images taken on Mars?
>>16279751>why is he wasting money on space he should fix earth's problems first>NOOOO not like that he should fix space's problems first
>>16279768A brilliant rover taken far before its time.
>>16279743Based if its actually significant amount.If its just symbolic like a $100 donation, it would still be good gesture.
>>16279735he's once again waiting on jeff
>>16279321>>16279339>>16279342>>16279805kysThese threads are the worst psyop's on 4Chan, embarrassing federal agent glowies everywhereAll you ever talk about are Jewish space technologies and are so incredibly behind other shithole countriesFuck Boeing too and most of the anons here wank off to them and their Israeli agentsAll you anons post are pop science burger version, it's like if Disney's version of Star Wars had an autistic and drunk incest child with Jeffrey Epstein
>>16279827Nice gaslighting attempt. Next time try figuring out a business plan that doesn't depend on maintaining constant low rate machining of overdone aluminum billets, because the future is now.
>>16279827ogey
>>16279827>reddit spacing>bot-generated content>>>/out/
>>16279827>4Chan
>>162798474channel
>>16279768They made the damn things out of aluminum, why? Blah blah mass, build something that lasts pussies!
>>16279827Fine, I'll bite.>so incredibly behind other shithole countriesWho is SpaceX behind?
>>16279397It wasn't 2014, but yes. There were people thinking that those were actual are rats and that the launches were fake.
>>16279743He did say that he would donate closer to the election when he was more certain. I guess those debates and everything following them was enough.
>but sir the starship cant do rescue missions without life support the astronauts will be dead outside the module>>then well bring down the module
>China wins again after SpaceX failureFalcon 9 will be shutdown forever.
>>16279768This is your brain on mass autism
>>16279880China's so far ahead their static tests are becoming dynamic
>nobody's launching ANYTHING for at least a week
Spaceflight has reclinedHumanity will remain monoplanetary
>>16279923that's insane
>>16279931Welcome back to pre-Falcon hell.
place your bets>manufacturing issue>software issue>3rd party part supplier issue>fundamental design issue that only appears every 300 flights >act of god
>>162799403rd party who got hosed by a Chinese supplier
>>16279940I won't bother guessing. But what I'm certain about is that is a 1 in 1000-10,000 issue that won't be too hard to figure out and prevent in the future.
>>16279943we have a winner
>>16279943Yeah, another item to add to the "fine, we'll do it ourselves then for fucks sake" list
>>16279946I recall that small aerospace part company that spacex used which falsified documents to keep their contract. was in the news a couple years ago
Thunderf00t bros... we can't stop winning!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86NjizfRGyk
NATO allies pledge $1 billion to promote sharing of space-based intel>During their summit in Washington, DC, this week, NATO member states committed more than $1 billion to improve the sharing of intelligence from national and commercial reconnaissance satellites.>The agreement is a further step toward integrating space assets into NATO military commands. It follows the bloc's adoption of an official space policy in 2019, which recognized space as a fifth war-fighting domain alongside air, land, maritime, and cyberspace. The next step was the formation of the NATO Space Operations Center in 2020 to oversee space support for NATO military operations.>On June 25, NATO announced the establishment of a "space branch" in its Allied Command Transformation, which identifies trends and incorporates emerging capabilities into the alliance's security strategy.>The 17 parties to the agreement pledged more than $1 billion transition the program into an implementation phase over the next five years. Six of the 17 signatories currently operate or plan to launch their own national reconnaissance satellites, while several more nations are home to companies operating commercial space-based surveillance satellites.https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/nato-allies-pledge-1-billion-to-promote-sharing-of-space-based-intel/the alliance is really throwing some weight into military space, probably at the behest of the US. if this is part of a series of in the alliance's space strategy, then i wonder what comes next?
>>16279940Third-party part got replaced by chinesium on accident
>third party>on a space eggs roggitWut
>>16279959>sls_suppliers.webm
>>16279446I miss this nigga so much
>>16279959They don't make absolutely everything in house, just a very large majority.
>>16279721If they ever come into existence, they'll probably be privately owned and operated.
>>16279754wtf?
This is your god?
>>16279995Yeah we need him to work on the man titties with disrespectful protruding nipples. It's not very becoming for the future space emperor.
>>16279995he's no Special K
33 days until Starship launch
>>16279370reminder that amos 6 was not a failure
Let's talk about which government building do I need to blank in order to punish them for not going to Titan's lakes?
>>16280003Destruction of payload is nothing other than mission failure.
>>16279761maybe he should issue a real bribe instead of these cringe donations
>>16279768it's gonna become a static weather station soon. All because they wanted the wheels to be 1mm thinner.
>>16279940fake titanium
>>16280031For real. He should be greasing palms and playing the game, the sheer amount of bullshit and delays must have far exceeded the cost of bribing some of these cunts.
>>16279995doesn't he know that his plastic cup is leeching into his alcoholic beverage. It's over.
>>16280019We should be thankful we're going on Titan at all, even witch such a cool vehicle. although the fact that they removed the chief flight systems engineer who knew what the fuck he was talking about is concerning.
/sfg/ is dead
>be me, a proud American>mock Ariane a few days ago after their rocket experienced a partial failure>Falcon 9 experiences total payload loss few days laterGuess karma is real. Take my apology eurofrens
>>16279495Reminder that we were robbed of a shooting star light show for the Tokyo Olympics. If we're lucky Ariane would provide the light show in 2 weeks.https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-37928806
https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1812058971185758474
https://x.com/jasonjoyride/status/1809677955762909643
>>16280086they want to send thousands of mirrors into LEO I think in a sun synchronous orbit at the terminator
>>16280118fuck meant to reply to >>16280109https://x.com/4TristanS/status/1799666276878667950
So were these starlinks in that failed launch the first ones ever to re-enter the atmosphere?
>>16280109Imagine thinking this would ever pass regulatory reviewEvery environmentalist on Earth would line up to take shots at this thing
>>16280119what's the difference between an engineer and an intern?
On the bright side, at least this time it's not the valves.Spoiler: The valves are bad too but they don't know that yet.
>>16280140engineers are men, interns are attractive college girls
>>16280146MOSFETs are just very small valves anon
>>16280109>sunlight energy per area>surface area per mass of mylar>F9 launch costAssuming perfect everything, no structure or control system, perfect reflectivity, constant use, this is more expensive than every other method of generating power. Not to mention the issue of large surface areas in LEO. They have a physics problem disguised as an engineering problem. This is never going to happen.
>>16280149the point is to provide solar power at night. there wont be any fossil fuels in the near future, and nuclear is a nonstarter, so your only competition is wind and that isn't steady.
>>16280149I'm pretty sure it assumes Starship launch costs and would be for extending the energy generation time at dawn and dusk, especially at dusk it would probably help a lot, electricity needs starting to increase when people come home from work just when the sun starts to go down and solar power generation goes down with itbecause you can opportunistically use this you could use it a bit like a peak power plant similarly to how batteries are usedwith F9 launch costs I doubt it would work, with Starship launch costs, who knowsif this isn't some VC scam then they must have some model for generating more revenue than the system costs to operatehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_curve
>>16280155
Fuck nocturnal life Sun never sets on the mirror sat empire
>>16280150I would would be shocked if maintaining a satellite constellation is within two orders of magnitude of the cost of solar. I mean, look at the image I replied to. You're telling me it makes more sense to launch shit into space than it does to just fill that map with solar and batteries?>nuclear is a nonstarterHuh? There's like half a dozen companies working on a containerized low temp (meltdown proof) reactor for the DoD right now. It might not be cheaper than solar but it'll be cheaper than satellites>>16280155I just don't see it being more cost effective than just building more solar and batteries in the desert. I mean, to match current US solar using all the same perfect conditions from my earlier post would require them to launch 135,000 tons. Triple that to add the structure and control system. Not even starship makes that make sense
>>16279743Let the seething begin.
>>16279923How will NSF survive this? How can they keep the simps going without a launch?
>>16279999checked
>>16280172They will watch tower sections being lifted
>>16280167they talk about this being a way to basically transfer energy at long distances (i.e. there has been some plans to build a lot of solar in the sahara and then transfer it into europe, but it is very costly)
>>16280146>at least this time it's not the valves.good thing, I think only Russians make valves these days
>>16280176>>16280167you also have a bunch of solar already not being utilized because it gets no sunlightthis system will also be global by its nature, so when the terminator advances you sell your sunlight to different solar farmsits not one satellite or satellite constellation for one solar farm, its one satellite constellation for all of earth basically selling the power to the highest bidder
>>16280146i'm not gonna get too mad at clipper seeing as they made a good-faith effort at controlling costs but how do you wait until 3 months before launch to figure this out?
>>16279940They just pushed their assembly line too hard. They're making a second stage every 2.5 days or so
>>16280109>portion of the US grid flies over China once a dayThis will literally never happen >>16280176>costlyHigh voltage lines spanning a continent will probably be cheaper in the long run than maintaining a satellite constellation
https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1812097201054839217
>>16280203starlink already flies over china everyday, in fact there are starlinks over china all the timemaintaining starlink is also probably cheaper than doing fiber in some areas, the europe-sahara solar project lines would cost somehting like 40 billionyou would get a lot of these satellites up there with 40 billion and Starships mass to LEO costs
>>16280207He’s desperate
>>16280207I wonder who was behind the F9 failure
>>16280190When you only have $4.25 billion to work with, sometimes corners get cut.
>>16280203>High voltage lines spanning a continent will probably be cheaper in the long run> Costs for high voltage direct current lines can cost $1.17 million to $8.62 million per mile, according to the federal Energy Information Administration.Dec 22, 2023Show the math for your case.
>>16280212kek
>>16280213I mean we don't know the mass/area of their satellites, we don't know the expected lifespan, we don't know the efficiency of reflected light/area, and we don't know the time each satellite will actually be in use. You can't do the math. But like I said, considering ideal everything (no structure or control, perfect reflectivity, constant use), you'd need 1350 Starship launches to match the current US solar infrastructure. I'm sure if I had real numbers it would be 10-100x worse. I like space but there's really no money to be made beyond communication and cameras.
>>16280213>according to the federal Energy Information AdministrationYou first
>>16280230you can't just compare it to generic solar power generation, you need to compare it to batteries or peaker plants that would need to be used at dawn or duskpeaker plant power generation is much more expensive than just some generic levelized cost for solar
>>16279325Not using that fag shit
>>16280244>batteries or peaker plants that would need to be used at dawn or duskJust make methane during the day retard
>>16280255doing that for intraday power sounds retardedmaybe for seasonal
>>16280242Dont hate on EIA nigger fantastic website.
>>16280255>make methane>store in batteries >run a peaker plantThe problem with any space resource is that in real life efficiency is measured in dollars. You're talking about competing on an actual trackable commodity, and space as cheap as it possibly can be is still too expensive. Why launch satellites when you could just build extra solar with an automatic methane buffer?
>>16279722Considering total mass to space, non-SpaceX providers are measurement error.They provide an alternative in the same way that keeping two AA batteries in your home provides an alternative to electricity from the grid.Tory should suck start a shotgun.
>>16280167https://world-nuclear-news.org/https://www.eia.gov/
>>16279931yeah
>>16279940female and/or black employee issue
>>16279995Yes
>>16279953Lets hope it spurs the euros to get serious about space.
>>16280150You are a retarded nigger, and you forgot hydro.
>>16279768Cancel MSR and send a pit crew robot instead. Way cooler and more efficient use of money.
>>16279643Stokes, really should have teamed up with a company that has an existing first stage. What is the mass of there second stage? Who could launch it?
>>16280276>Stokes, really should have teamed up with a company that has an existing first stageRetard
>>16280270most hydro has been utilized and in general is irrelevant other than regionally in a few placesnot a general solution
>>16280109>imagine the bright dots in the nightsky>imagine the astronomer chimpout
>>16280281ground based astronomy is going to be dead soon anyway
>>16280279Cut there development time in half, hell could be riding on falcons rn.
>>16280259>Why launch satellites when you could just build extra solar with an automatic methane buffer?Yeah agree. Space beamed power for earth sucks.>>16280257Nah you just fill the pipeline and buffer tanks and then gas plants tap off from it when it gets dark.
>>16279643What is this supposed to be?We know exactly how big Nova is.
>>16279495I hope they took out some Falklands veterans in extremely painful manners of death
>>16280286Falcon probably is too skinny.Every other company would be straight up impossible to work with.It would not be a permanent solution and you would have to develop a first stage anyway. So why not do it now?Same reasoning why they went straight to FFSC.They actually seem to be very good at making executive decisions like that.
>>16280293fully demisable during re-entry nigga
>>16280255i make it 24/7. get good.
Remember to repoet the namefag automated spambot
>>16280318Oh kek janny just banned the B*rkun posts as I posted this nevermind.
>>16280333based
>>16280019Building 34 at Goddard (please put them out of their misery, they took away their scooters)
>>16280258>How fleek it is...!
meteor kinohttps://x.com/Astronomiaum/status/1811976197040939379
>>16280384none of them would be any different and biden is just gonna call the donors' bluff anyway.
>>16280109>what are batteriesthis is fucking retarded, probably a VC scam
>>16280109Stop it with the retarded ideas and build nuclear powerplants.
>>16279397I never saved them so I can't remember if they were around in '14 already, but anyways I remember, yeah, probably wouldn't have seen them on /sci/ back then though.
Nobody will be wanting tofly on failed con after this disasterous and sad failure. ULAby comparison has a 100% sucess rate.
>>16280384No one likes VP, no one likes newsom (california turned to shithole under his rule). Dems have run their politics to the ground by embracing extremist ideology
>>16279397I think the most infamous engine rat was on a CRS mission like 2019 or 2020. I remember because it got it's own schizo thread outside of /sfg/.
>>16280427I remember that guy, he wasn't even a particularly notable engine rat, somebody just decided to meme it up that day
>>16279940I've been kind of expecting a QA/QC issue missing a manufacturing/maintenance issue for a while, but for some reason I'm feeling process change leading to issues like that nozzle cleaning agent clogging thing a while ago on this one. Which would be an qualification testing issue and also fall under QA but a bit different.Either way it could be any of them
sars...
>>16280109>use solar panels to fight climate change>but they don't work at night>I know, lets use orbital mirrors so solar panels work at night too!>earth does most of it's cooling at night>orbital mirrors redirect sunlight to the night side thus the earth cools less at night>this heats up the planet completely defeating the point of using solar panels in the first placeIt was never going to go anywhere but can these people think 1 step ahead at least?
>>16280427
>>16280445the point of solar panels is to generate electricity, thats it
>>16280456Being unable to perceive subtext doesn't make you smart
>>16280451hehe look at the goofy little guys scurry around
https://x.com/austinbarnard45/status/1812183574759817424>Rise of the second tower
>>16280459the point of solar power is to generate electricityyour conspiracy theories are irrelevant
>>16280467Remember when they built the first tower and the FAA started crying and they continued building it anyway? So based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGgcrane connected to tower module 2
>>16280430If they designed the process well they not only know who touched it last but what state it was in before integration, so they probably aren't going to take long to rule out human causes. I would guess they're combing over the LOX pressure sensors right now looking for a timeline of the leak, and if it happened before or after separation. SpaceX itself points out to customers that separation events are the most common cause of launch failures
>>16280451>>16280427This is the one that you still see on /pol/ and flat earther twitter, of course you won't see any of the newer, high resolution in sunlight webms that clearly show ice behaving in the same mannerTheir cognitive dissonance is next level
>>16279588fuck that pajeet, retard
>>16280451oh shit wtf is a rat doing there?does anyone know how this happened?
>>16280484That's because it's a religion.
>>16280441
>>16280467Which one will have the eye of Sauron?
>>16280273No but actually I imagine this happening>SpaceX HLS Mars lander lands nearby>elevator drops down>Curiosity team gets it on >rides up into Starship>where a custom bespoke JPL Mars Rover servicing platform awaits>all automatic controlled but can be manually operated>attaches all new wheels and swaps out modules, Hubble servicing mission but for a mars rover>finally dusted and washed >returns down to the surface to continue its missionThe pictures from the rover alone of Starship and the service bay would be wild, same with a livestream of the servicing from onboard camerasThe future can be so fucking amazing, Curiosity does not have to fall silent on Mars when its wheels give out
>>16280488One of the genetically engineered rats chewed it's way out. This explains it's abnormally large size and ability to survive in space.
>>16280488they live in the engine
>>16280501An expedition must be sent out to retrieve Sojourner and return her safely home.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1812198072136683571torchships when?
>>16280507We can retrieve them all
>>16280508there's no way nuclear/fusion can adopt the nasa commercial model
The downgrade of Terran R needs to be studied
>>16280514huh, what happened?are you talking about something more than the proonter abandoning?
>>16280521they were originally planning to do reusable upper stage but they abandoned it and the current one doesn't have enough payload to do reusable upper stage and also have payload
>>16280276The second stage is xboxhueg diameter and stages early because first stage leg landing. They had to go custom.
>>16280524>>16280514Why study it? Physics rears its ugly head for everyone, and small reusable launch vehicle upper stages inevitably have no payload.
>>16280541they only need to target 15 tons to LEO fully reusable
>>16280543This inevitably means something dimensionally close to a Space Shuttle in physical scale.
>>16280550TSTO instead of booster/sustainer and using methalox or propalox instead of hydrolox will solve your scale issuesa Falcon 9 height vehicle with a 4.5 or 5 meter diameter should manage just fine and be doable on Terran's budget
>>16280414you've no idea how the flat earthers use these clips. its terrible.
>>16280484>>16280490it really is. do not feed the animals...or overfeed them, as you will
>>16280554I honestly doubt that, recovery hardware for reentry velocities is pretty heavy any way you slice it.
>>16280560Falcon 9 height with a 5 meter diameter is larger than the space shuttle
>>16280562It's taller than the Space Shuttle, but it's not larger.
>>16280555my dad believes every conspiracy theory under the sun except flat earth, and i think that speaks volume
>>16280562he's a big guy>>16280564it only says that your dad has limits even to his crazy. i applaud this. keeping ones crazy within bounds takes effort
>>16280566Flat earth sounds like a psyop.
>>16280557really feels like casting pearls before swine when you reply with kino photos/videos and it just completely flies past their smooth brains
>>16280563Nah it's larger, look at the picture
>>16279513>¡Madre de dios!>¡Es el Starlinkos Fuegos!
>>16279397>super old timesThey're still posting them, son.
when you see it
One /sfg/ anon walking on his son kissing another boy became my core memory.
>>162805635m has the same width payload bay as the Shuttle, and if you make it not retarded you'll be fine>>16280590what are you supposed to see here, spell it out for me
>>16280590What am I supposed to see in particular?The hot gas RCS manifolds?The relocated RCS vents in the nosecone section?The new design for the structural reinforcement?The twin raceway redesign on the ship?
>>16280593thats pretty gay
>>16280596>5m has the same width payload bay as the Shuttle, and if you make it not retarded you'll be fineNot sure if gaslighting or you're actually missing the point that badly: the matter of scale in question is the size of the rocket's propellant tanks and thrust profile, along with the added velocity component of each stage.
>>16280605yeah, I'm awareare you in the mood to do some napkin math with me or would I be wasting my time
>>16280596>what are you supposed to see here, spell it out for meit
>>16280606I'm open to napkin math, but I think we're reasonably looking at a New Glenn sized vehicle at minimum for a 15 ton to LEO reusable launch vehicle.
>>16280598Yes
>>16280614yeahI was thinking about it and I might just hate thinking about the delta v requirements for an RTLS launch vehicleeverything else is easy handwaving
>>16279321>crew dragon grounded>shitliner stranded>dream chaser delayedAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>16280295Want it right do it yourself i get it it.I fear that the post StarShip world isnt going to have a lot of room consolidation should have started a lot sooner. Stoke needs to figure out how to get on top of New Glen with a stack of OneWeb or they aint going to complete with payed so exist companies. Even with perfect reuse.
>>16280622it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over
>>16280590I live under a rock, and without even googling I know playboy is a woke progressive corporation now just like all corporations so it's fine, brave and toleratent even to wear a playboy hat at the work place
>>16280622>decline of fall of the american empireMove over, burger, your time is up.
Estelle Ellis posts a lot of interesting stuff. I'm surprised.
>>16280644Who?
>>16280648Estelle Ellis
>>16280622China will rescue them
>>16280633nigga I didn't even see that, I was talking about the new raceway
Anyone on here have the passcode to the pad 39B elevator?
>>16280604 Elon loves you anon
>>16280663It's in the pastebin
>>16280648Voice actress for Krystalhttps://x.com/RealKrystalFox
>>16280678Not spaceflight related, go back to /v/.
>>16280679How do you think she gets from one planet to the other?
>>16280683Oh I'm sorry I was to stupid to understand, spaceflight related, you can stay.
>>16280683I'm more interested in how she gets from one planet to my bedroom if yoi know what I'm saying. (I want to fuck her)
>>16280689next time quit with the vagueries anon it just wastes other peoples time when they have to figure out what you mean
>>16280167this, I remember when I was a kid in the 80s and seeing art/reading about the idea of giant solar power satellites in orbit beaming down power to ground stations and it seemed ridiculous to me even then, and now with several decades of knowledge and experience due to my interest in space the idea seems even more implausible and ridiculous to me, I hope nobody ever gets ahold of taxpayer money to try and make it a reality or god help us it'll make the SLS look like the Hoover Dam by comparison(here's a much more practical solution for you, just start placing solar panels onto roofs or even better make shingles power generating and incorporate them into every house that gets re-roofed)
>>16280689what do you mean?
>2.5 years>0 (zero) cool pictures from JWSTwtf are they doing?
>>1628057890%+ of flat earth posts on /pol/ are from those, paid or otherwise, trying to discredit ALL information being shared on /pol/
>>16280730doesn't seem fatal
>>16280706JWST is infrared, never going to give pics like Hubble, and NASA doesn't want Isacman/Spacex to service/boost Hubble
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1812250005987844593
>>16280738Crazy fucking shit. Future of spaceflight and humanity itself is at risk.
>>16280414
>>16280738must've been a deranged earther
>>16280747Its over. If he survives this, he 100% wins this election. The current one is too corrupt
Imagine the shitshow if Musk got shot
>>16280749Musk needs to triple his security and stop doing public events for the time being
Staged?
>>16280753no, we're still on page 3
>>16280749Musk surely has some Iron Man security protocol, right?
>>16280758Nuclear rockets and a Man on mars by the decade is out
this autist truly is mentally illI am now officially a SpaceX hater
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812256998588662068
>>16280759Mere bullets can't penetrate his telekinetic autism force field
>>16280761>>16280762>>16280764Musk is securing his federal funding for the next term.
>>16280764>>16280762>>16280761>nearly half a million likesStarship will launch 10 times in November alone
>>16280780he already donated previously, now is as good time as anydoesn't matter if its some insane lone wolf antifa
>>16280779
>>16280758He might tell them to make sure Artemis happens by 2028, otherwise I don't see much change. But as someone pointed out last time it really depends, he could randomly find something he sees as really important or just not care at all. Pence also seemed to be the main driver behind all the space stuff so it could also depend on who'd be VP.
>>16280762>I am now officially against the continued existence of our species
>>16280789Who are you quoting? Go see a medical professional, please.
>>16280789>seething this hardkek dilate
>>16280788pence was just made the public face of space policy so it could look like he was doing something. that happens a lot for VPs. you can see how much interest he actually had in spaceflight from how much he's talked about it since leaving office, which is to say basically none.
>>16280738>>16280747It would be funny if he lost again.
>>16280758First manned mission to mars during the 2028 transfer window, right after the olympics are held here, all eyes on America for an entire year
>>16280797Artemis is a mess because of him. NASA got unrealistic timelines but was refused to get proper funding,
>>16280797>Biden wasn't a bad space president>attacked Elon with regulatory action and lawsuits from multiple federal agenciesdid your mother have any children that lived?
>>16280805>highest funding in foreverIt was barely increased to keep up with the inflation.
>>16280805Nice, but doesn't help if it all goes to SLS and the other parts still get less than necessary, just like with commercial crew underfunding leading to eternal delays.
>>16280797he spent enough money on his rural internet plan to buy every household in the US a starlink terminalhow many people were connected to the internet again?
>>16280809If they really want to go with SLS, a higher funding would allow for higher cadence. What we have now is a joke, a shitty rocket that is launched once every 2 years.
>>16280807>implying Biden has anything to do with those>Biden hardly remembers his own nameno one is claiming that the policies under Biden as president were his idea, but those policies are a result of him being presidentdon't pretend you're retarded
>>16280811>a higher funding would allow for higher cadenceLol lmao even
>>16280789What species is that?
>>16280817I know that Boeing is corrupt but a proper administration would force them to increase the pace.
>>16280826Another example, take the Blue Origin HLS challenges, NASA/SpaceX basically won because the court asked NASA if they did their selection fairly on the technical merits in accordance with their rules and NASA said yes. If the court actually had to verify that itself or god forbid a jury it'd probably have taken at least twice as long.>>16280831He's denied it in the past.
>>16280826>not pretendingcheers
>>16280826>They're based on decades-old laws being invokeda republican DOJ would never have started civil rights lawsuits against spacex and tesla and you know that.
Anyway, what's the Saarliner status?
>>16280846Yep. Elon better secure himself
>>16280109absolutely never will be economical
>>16280846https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812281822887469104https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812283045069861085
>>16280852Why is that SEA monkey so obsessed with American politics?
>>16280846Wait kek do you guys remember that schizo guy who live-streamed and crawled up to Musk’s front door over the course of like 2 hours?
>>16280854its a grift
>>16280859Holy shit, that damage is horrible.They will have to replace all those rocks.
>>16280855yep I remember. what a wacky YouTube channel that was. he had a massive anti-feminism angle too
>>16280860This was years ago and that's what it's there for.
Holy shit, they killed the ULA sniper
>>16280818Furries
It seems Elon is no longer hiding his power level.https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812296672510111853
>>16280109>space mirrors to power solar panels at nightFucking retarded.If you want to get around the problem of solar not working at night then the solution is to build more solar than you actually need and use the excess supply to power a storage device for use at night. Some places are looking at pumped storage hydro, you can fill the reservoir during the day and then release the water at night. One of the more interesting and unproven proposals is being built in South Australia: hydrogen power. The power grid there is turbo-fucked because solar supply is far in excess of needs during the day, but then drops off totally at night. The plan is to build a giant electrolyser that can use the excess solar to create and store hydrogen to power a 200mw plant that will provide on-demand baseline stability to the grid.
>>16280914I'm from Australia. It will be 20 years late, 5x over budget and have catastrophic issues that prevent it from performing even close to the advertised capacity.
>>16280859I'm not the only one who thinks that looks like a skid mark right?
>>16280922my condolences
why don't we have cables that go from one side of the planet to the other (from east to west), so that electricity produced at day at one side can be used at night at the other side?!
>>16280943https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transmission#Losses
>>16280945just make the wires out of lk99
Original idea do not stealCargo ships filled with batteries for delivering electricity to places without sunlight.
>>16280943Even ignoring losses and you had superconductors, absolutely fucking no one wants to rely on their nations electricity coming from other parts of the globe that might shut it off for sanctions or some other actor deletes the cable.
>>16280961I'll take your idea and improve it:electric planes instead of cargo ships (which would take months to ship) or cablesplease do not patent before I do. thanks.
>>16280964>absolutely fucking no one wants to rely on their nations electricity coming from other parts of the globe that might shut it off for sanctions or some other actor deletes the cableis this sarcasm? we do this with basically every other form of energy
>>16280965You can patent that one friend, I've had an even better idea. E2E Starship carrying megapacks.
>>16280970>we do this with basically every other form of energyAnd look how that's going, it's in your own picture you posted
>>16280972yeah, it's like half the wars post wwii, and yet we just keep doing it. I see no reason why political tensions with your neighbor would stop you running a power cord to them.
>>16280922>>16280914just build batteriesthat's what they're already doing and it's working great
It was suppose to be about Spaceflight, But fags are fagging up this thread.
>>16280971>E2E Starship carrying megapacks.fuck. you win>>16280984>It was suppose to be about Spaceflightthis is the Elon Musk general.
>>16280984nignog post. The president just had an assassination attempt on his life and survived. One of the most historical events just took place today that even has a tie in with Elon with his donations and support after the fact. What the fuck do you think anon's are going to talk about in a thread where said Elon is talked about all the fucking time?
>>16280978There is no battery technology in existence that could power an entire grid through the night. The point of big batteries (like the Hornsdale battery near Jamestown, which I assume is the one you're thinking of) is to help cushion the grid against sudden fluctuations that can occur if you don't have a reliable baseline, which is what happened in South Australia quite frequently before the battery was built. There used to be frequent load-shedding blackouts here, culminating in the whole state losing power for a day back in 2016 when the interconnector to Victoria was knocked out in a storm. The battery gives the grid operator half an hour of breathing space in which to stabilise the grid and bring other power sources online, this lack of breathing space in 2016 caused the whole grid to fall over and made it extremely difficult to bring on any backups.
>>16281007Aussiefag? I watched a random youtube video the other day of an Aussie shooting like 50 Camels with violent intent with a pump action AR15. Do you guys actually have a Camel problem?
>>16281009Yes. Feral camels are a serious problem in the outback, they erase the vegetation and consume limited water resources.
>>16281009Yeah they are out of control in the outback. Perfect conditions for them and no people around. They don't even take the corpses away for meat because transport is too expensive.
Feral Martian species when?
>>16280852Ian miles chingchong, intellectual giant of our time
I hate post 2020 musk. everything went to shit.just would like to put my opinion out there, I know it isn't the one probably widely shared here on /sfg/. Does his 'change' influence the success/future of spacex? I don't know. Probably.
>>16281026I'm sorry anon, was Musk your friend that you knew in real life and you too just went your separate ways? Jesus Christ man.
>>16281026Musk is literally better than ever you dumb faggot
>>16281027I'm allowed to have an opinion, it should be just as cringe as saying you like/agree with what he tweets.
>>16281029Elon could literally kill my father, rape my sister and mother, drown my dog. He could dwstroy my career and burn my home to the ground. Fuck and impregnate my girlfriend (if I had one). All while I watch in horror, but still I would support him at the end of the day. Anything that gets us closer to Mars and I mean it. I dont think anyone here can really comprehend perfect devotion
>>16281031oh I agree to an extent, the Big Picture is more important, but I still have my scruples.
>>16281026SpaceX has done nothing but skyrocket in success since the ‘numusk’ era started. NASA has repeatedly been asked–directly–about Musk’s antics, then they go ahead and award HLS, gateway resupply, extra crew missions, ISS deorbit, etc. to them. As long as they keep holding this bar they will dominate.Who even is their biggest threat at this point?Perhaps Blue and ULA—but only because the government wants second options and is willing to fund exponentially more retarded options
>>16281035heh. skyrocket
>>16281026>post 2020>everything went to shit.almost like Elon realized "the adults in the room" are malicious retards and an existential threat to civilization and being a multiplanet species
>>16281022>>16280854
>>16281026MDS
>>16281077yes, I admit it. Doesn't mean my reasons are faulty
>>16281079Nah. But when he was a pretend leftist during the obama era you clapped like the rest
>>16281079>Doesn't mean my reasons are faulty"Derangement" implies a fault in reasoning
>>16281079It does, actually. Obsessing over someone who hasn't done anything to you, because you don't like what you see them doing - or more likely, feeling self-conscious about how other people are seeing that person and reacting to it by turning it around and being obsessively angry at him the second he steps out of the bounds of acceptability between you and your peers, is pretty faulty.
hey, guess what.I STILL don't care about politics.
>>16281112Politics cares about you. Enjoy the speed limiter in your vehicle. Oh and troon out your kids
what spaceflight looks like without spacexlets hope the chinese megaconstellation going up next month gives us alot of launches
>>16281123I take back everything I said about boring f9 launches pls give them back aaaaaaaaaa
>>16281119I'm rich enough to simply move if politics becomes a problem for me. It's literally that easy.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCYo3UuU5TAvideo from inside the axiom factory, looking at the building of their station
>>16281134>nasa's water reclamation system on the ISS costs $14 million>axiom's version costs $100koof
>>16281135to be fair, the ISS one was probably designed in like 2004?
>>16281134>cancer cells grow faster in microgravity than on earth>so its easier to grow them for faster drug testinglooks like we might have a killer app aside from space tourism
>>16281134Aren't they waiting for the Thales Alenia build to finish? These look like pathfinders
>>16280914>just generate MORE electricity than you use, via solar, during the DAY, so that the unused portion, stored in BATTERIES, is available for use at NIGHTsorry anon your idea is too simple and too practical for the great minds on here to even be able to perceive
>>16281163Because it's not practical without batteries that are at least an order of magnitude cheaper than what is available.
>>16280451why is it sliding around that spiral tube. What's flowing withing that spiral tube?
>>16281184space rat
>>16280716Normally I'd call you a shizo, but flat earth is so fucking stupid that I totally believe that 90% of flatearthers are paid actors.
>>16280922that's only your particular Australian pumped hydro project which everyone could tell you from the beginning probably isn't economical. Switzerland has been using pumped hydro storage for a hundred years. America has some great pumped hydro potential too but they don't wanna do it.
>>16280622You forgot>Europa Clipper delayed
>>16280975>>16280970It's profitable for both sides and not doing it is risking falling behind.
Starship is going to launch before Falcon 9, isn't it?
>>16280849Still not stranded (it's totally stranded)
>>16281143Sending cancer patients to space so they die quicker?
>>16281203no you grow the stem cells in a test tube
>>16281184rrat
>>16281143More like>space radiation kills cancer cells>send up people with cancer for rehab>eventually only people with cancer can go and explore space
>>16281220Ehhh, it's happening either way.
dongfang hour thinks china is targeting 2029 for boots on the moon. i think berger said 2028 is possible. i wonder if they'll try to avoid beating artemis to a landing because they dont want to be seen as trying to race against america. china knows they cant beat spacex in the short term, so a race against elon would be financially ruinous to the country.
>>16281261Not a guarantee. Money is one thing, but he needs to launch from Earth and the government decides how often. With their current proposed launch rate we're talking about only 3-4 ships to Mars in a year and they need hundreds per window for a city. Though I guess Musk could go start another rocket company in China, they'd probably be happy to get out of his way
>>16281184>why is it sliding around that spiral tuberraaat>what's flowing within that spiral tubeexhaust
>>16280451How big would that engine rat be anyway?
>>16281283large rat sized
>>16281283about as big as you'd think
>>16281283>>16281286>>16281288and the vacuum engine
The most correct engineering solution for engine rats is engine cats
>>16281133What country is becoming whiter yoy?
>>16281026I predicted how a Biden president would bring disaster upon everything Musk months before. I was right. Biden targeted all of his companies and you're expecting Musk to sit there and do nothing? This isn't Musk being unreasonable. Its the current admin being completely out of touch and sabotaging everything Musk has done in his entire life.
>>16281293America! Many people of Spanish (Spain is in Europe) descent coming in
>>16281300What's really bonkers is the electric cars and internet for poor people was actually in line with the administration's goals. Why were they so opposed? Biden starlink would've actually gotten him some rural voters. I actually don't understand. Any Americans want to explain?
>>16281262>, so a race against elon would be financially ruinous to the country.Not really, China can just copy SpaceX (which they're doing) while Elon Musk can just cope and seethe.
>>16281304They wanted electric cars and internet for the poor right up until someone actually came up with a profitable way to do those things.It was never about providing those things, it was about using those things as an excuse to control others. Also, showing that we don't need the government for progress is really bad for them.
>>16281304Left wing has a strong marxist current in the US right now. Identity politics is embedded in the left wing.
>>16280904>Starship leadership must resignBold move
>>16280904America remade the Schutzstaffel?
>>16281304anon, solving problems runs counter to the administration's goals because if they solve problems then they can't grift off of them any more
>>16281313secret service but yeahquote this song on twitter and see how fast they show up at your doorhttps://youtu.be/n6qFLq44Fos
>>16281319That's the problem with midwits, they can't comprehend why someone would promise something and then not do it.It's because if they did it, then they would have to find something new to promise!
>>16280904Why is he baiting with the acronym? Surely he knows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKExuKk32_o>Booster 12 Conducts First Super Heavy Spin Prime Since Booster 9 | SpaceX Boca Chica
the ULA sniper wasn't this sloppy.
>>16281359Idk they must have laid him off recently, too many starships have got off the pad
>>16281335spaceflight?
>>16281199Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjvnQwTpSYA
>>16281377this nigga needs some meds
>>16281377not watching, qrd?
HE IS ARISEN
>>16281421is this v2?
>>16281422Yep
>>16281424...but not the next one in line for lunch right
>>16281425No, IFT-5 will use ship 30 and booster 12
>>16281430is v2 the one with an actual payload, 50+ tons?
>>16281421Why the flap change?
>>16281434moved out of the hot plasma slightly iirc
Ariane 6 is just as successful as Falcon 9 now
>>16281421
>>16281442
>>16281442smaller forward protective hinger area?
>>16281442MAAN
>>16281443>>16281442forward flap cam views will be worse now sadly
>>16281421https://x.com/Ringwatchers/status/1812511436184359169>>16281442https://x.com/Ringwatchers/status/1812516540450787569
>>16281431Dunno, We'd probably see a cargo flight with starlinks after they fix the door and install a test dispenser>>16281444Looks like it, the test data probably showed they could slim down the TPS there>>16281443The welds are looking even better
>>16281444the hinges are also farther out of the airflow
>>16281421>>16281442Why do the flaps look so thin and faggy? They're like little crackers that'll snap if you pick them up wrong.
>>16281458because they are only needed during the free fall and make Starship harder to control during reentry if they are too large by pushing the nose back making it easier to slide ass first
>>16281458are you forgetting the flight 4 incredible flap survival story
>>16281458big flap heavysmall flap lightflap mass becomes payload mass
>>16281443https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1812519571166826745
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1812524806568329555>Starship 33 it is! >7/14/24
Does anyone have that pic of the Dynetics lander crying because she’s fat?
>>16281175>le order of magnitude OK sure, genius, then store hydrogen, store compressed air, store flywheel momentum, store water up high, store etc etc etc even you get it right?
>>16281191like I said, it is absolutely imperative to certain groups that the information shared on /pol/ is discredited
>>16281499reserved for upcoming depot test article SN33D
>>16280914There's a British company proposing doing that and burning the hydrogen to drive steam turbines, rather than relying on fuel cells.
>>16280678It's a shame kystral posting died out on /sfg/. I enjoyed my coomer break from space and politics every now and then
>>16281544getting banned for it constantly gets tiring, even if you hide them in pdfs
>>16281421I hope they add the giant cockpit window when Block 3 arrives. Or at least a pathfinder for them. It would be nice to see any internal developments to the ship at all now that we know they have solved reentry. >>16281448Knowing Elon, he will eventually move the cameras someplace more exciting. The important thing is we will be able to watch the landing now because the canard placement is no longer a clusterfuck and won't cover the screens with debris
>>16281288That's the faggot that fucked up the quality control isn't it.
>>16281580That's an ancient Merlin, the guy probably doesn't even work at SpaceX anymore and probably hasn't for years.
Youre not allowed to say the nigger word on Mars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXUmqqboPXc> AT LAST!! First Module of Tower 2 Gets Stacked! - SpaceX Weekly #123
>>16281606simply untrue
>>16281614no its true, you'll get thrown into the cuck hole if you do
>>16281440paizuri
>>16281572dear moon got cancelled so it'll probably be a long time before any attempt at a cool window is made. You'll have to settle for the hls windows
https://x.com/Greg_sbf/status/1812512513210101949New OLM hold down arm hardware spotted
>>16281606NiggerPosted from teslaphone Marslink
>>16281682Not real
>>16281646Looks... flimsy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsig3_e3CXw&t=306
>>16281440have the other one sbarky drew?
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/south-texas/article/spacex-starship-fifth-launch-19569427.php>“If SpaceX decides to change the mission profile or make other changes that affect the safety analyses, it will need to request a license modification,” an FAA spokesman told MySA via email on Thursday, July 11.>"When the FAA reviews an application for a new or modified commercial space license, we will evaluate as appropriate policy, payload, safety, financial responsibility, and environmental impacts," an FAA spokesman told MySA via email on Friday, July 12.
>>16281521>hydromemeEmbrittlement leading to replacement of all parts regularly leakage and massive explosions. You're on /sfg/ shut the fuck about hydromeme nigger. >Compressed airWorse cost effectiveness and efficiency than batteries, companies have been working on this for quite some time with nothing to show beyond meme demonstrators that suck.>flywheelsSame boat as compressed air except you are also adding a spinning flywheel that deletes the local primary school when it fails.>pumped hydroOnly realistic option and is heavily location dependant. Need very high head and somewhere you can flood without envirotards seething.
>>16281701aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH EVERY FUCKING TIMENo launch till late August at minimum
>>16281701>make other changes that affect the safety analysisSorry goyi-I mean Elon, you moved those flaps on the vehicle, reapply for the loicence
>>16281701Its a fucking standard boiler plate response
>>16281740It's boiler plate but enough changes in the vehicle will make them do another safety review. Just flying the same mission profile isn't enough and they are changing the vehicle a lot. I assume they need another fucking loicence for the booster catch anyway so it's over.
Hey guys, I've been camping for like three days, did I miss anything?
>>16281701This is the same organization that let the new 737 fly after changing a bunch of stuff (killing hundreds). SpaceX needs to start lobbying like Boeing, God damn
>>16281777They really do. Elon seems to have some kind of cringe opinions about bribing politicians, he needs to fill some pockets to get things running smoothly. How does he tolerate all this bullshit when a couple of million dollars would clean it up overnight.
>>16281705All non-airbreathing forms of energy storage sucks when atmospheric O2's double bond is sitting right there for the taking.
>>16281752Its a boiler plate thats been put out since day 1. Stop being a retard.
>>16281774yeah
>>16281778sorry, no gay fanfiction please
>>16281808kek
>>16281779easier to shoot them than bribe them
>>16281778Never post that middle one again.
>>16281811Cheaper in the long term but annihilating the federal government is a pretty expensive short term endeavour.
>>16281815you only need to assassinate two or three before they start to get the messageseems to be working for Boeing
>>16281820Boeing doesn't assassinate government officials though. The use carrot and stick method. Carrot for government and stick for whistleblowers.
slow day on /sfg/
>>16281881They killed Falcon 9
>>16281884is it grounded? Does this mean Starship is currently the only active SpaceX rocket?
shartliner
>>16281779>he needs to fill some pockets to get things running smoothlyhigh-trust "no bribe demanded nor provided" White society was the best, it's what we need to return to, not bend to other's ways
>>16281778I know they finally got Falcon Heavy to work but are they sure they want to go though the pain of getting all those cross-connects to work?
>>16281891>high-trust "no bribe demanded nor provided" White society was the bestWhen has this EVER been the case??? Serious question. People in power have been open to bribes since written history began, even when there serious penalties for corruption they would just find ingenious methods around it.
>>16281896>>16281891Never been the case
>>16281894its gonna be kino
>>16281896I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case in iceland from time to time. not very familiar with their modern political history though.
>>16281891Doesn't happen, has never happened. Even in high-trust societies, there are psychopaths, and psychopaths filter to the top or to prison depending on their IQ.The flaw in human politics is genetic—no governing system is really robust to a creature who simultaneously understands how to exploit emotions but can choose not to feel them.
>>16281885yes lol
>>16281891That's why he's endorsed Trump.
Baking, one moment please.
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>>16281440Undress right now and I will breed your Euro pussy.
