When will the hype stop?I'm so fucking sick of these AI, transhumanist, etc., deadbeats rearing their heads everywhere I look.I can't even get ChatGPT to generate a list of real references. It's a glorified fucking chat bot reminiscent of the pomo Markov generators, and I'm tired of people pretending it's not. Friggin' atheists and their silly toys, man.
>>16282094>generate a list of real referencesthats not how current AI models workthey all make shit up whereever it is language model or image creationit may approximate something that actually exists but its never actuall real thing
>>16282094Hype is because there's more to discover, I read recent papers, and I can tell you that it's really possible we will have machine that is better than humans if we already don't.
>>16282094>Another dumb redneck thinks he understands AI better than actual scientists and engineersYou schizos can keep fear mongering all you want, but your never going to stop scientific and technological progress. >>16282460This. Anyone who has seen the progress we've had in recent years can tell that we're on the cusp of AGI. The technological singularity is going to occur sometime this decade or in the 2030s. When the AI revolution is over, life will never be the same again.
didn't the research of ai stopped due fear of the consequences? at least in the west because china and india won't.
>>16282469Nobody is fear-mongering about a piece of crap that can't even generate real references, Eugene. When you have AGI (a term introduced purely to allow cope in the face of nu-AI mediocrity), then get back to us. When you can render CAPTCHAs completely obsolete because every spammer is using AGI to defeat them, then get back to us.
>>16282094> When will the hype stop?When the money stops.
>>16282460>Hype is because there's more to discoverlol, no, it's because TwatGPT and other LLMs were marketed as something they're not, and you know it. And now that you losers are seeing everyone catch up to the fact that your playthings can't do much of anything right except write poems, you're trotting out the >potential in two weekscope.
>>16282519You clearly not understand, LLM's as you know it are not what I consider AI we have at the moment, there's much more.
>>16282094it will stop as soon as the next hype train arrives, probably something related to bio-tech but hopefully I'm wrong>>16282530links or didn't happen
>>16282094>When will the hype stop?It’s still underhyped in my opinion> I can't even get ChatGPT to generate a list of real references.That’s not what it’s made for.
>>16282094soon
>>16282097This. It can give you references and sometimes they are even relevant and back up what it is saying. But that doesn't mean that those references were what it ACTUALLY used to generate the text.Although tbf that is how humans operate most of the time too.
>>16282094>>16282097>>16282460>>16282469>>16282487>>16282514>>16282517>>16282519>>16282530>>16282734>>16282739>>16282759>>16282907just gonna leave this here
>>16283111I've never had a stroke but I imagine this is what it would feel like
>>16283111>model specialising in language is bad at mathwoooooooooow
>here's a mistake it made>here's something systematic that I can do but it can'tsome of y'all react to chat-gpt the way dumb people react to smart people
>>16283111kek, thanks for posting this.Every time someone criticizes TwatGPT, one of the common copes is>hey, did you use 4.0, or are you still using 3.5? 4.0 is a beast, man
>>16283202>specialising in language[narrator: but frequently can't even discern between books that exist and books that don't.]
>>16283260It can't fucking do much of anything but spin out some creative writing. This is enough to impress Redditcore retards who weren't aware of the state of computational linguistics and natural language processing before the phony "AI" label got slapped on everything.
>>16283335refer >>16282097books use language but are not language themselvesand those AI models are unable to check/recognize truth from falsehoodsyou can quite easily talk them into agreeing with any retarded contradictory statement they havent been hard coded to agree/disagree with
even most of /g/ has turned on chatgpt now after initially buying into the hype that "ai" would render human coders obsolete. I guess there's only so much a man can take.
>>16283339>before the phony "AI" label got slapped on everything.>phonyWhat do you think the "A" in "AI" stands for?
>>16283341books use language to refer to other books, neckbeardp.s. christ is king
>>16283344>about to trot out his nu-ai vs. agi cope
>>16283111
>>16282094>>16283353>>16283335>>16283111Oh yeah? ChatGPT coached me through crafting this responsehttps://chatgpt.com/share/a6314664-de8a-4683-9c28-35496b3f9e7f
>>16283372>less impressive than '90s pomo generators that OP mentioned
>>16283372oh no no no no nowhat now, faggot?
>>16283533If ChatGPT is telling the truth, OP is vindicated.If ChatGPT is not telling the truth, OP is vindicated.
the Internet was pathetically slow when it was new and data transmission errors happened all the time. Guess we should've just given up on it back then.
>>16282094I love machine learning on its own as using statistics to predict things, but I hate the term "AI" so much. Lms aren't and never will be actually intelligent, but people just decide to rather fall on their face, keep their eliza effect, instead of actually learning on what it is and then wonder why they are scared of "AI".
>>16283599Because you have a rigorous definition of what ”true intelligence” is right?
>>16283607It certainly isn't a turing machine.
>>16283607True artificial intelligence would render CAPTCHAs obsolete, and I'd never see another one of those insufferable things again. Nobody cares about the "AGI" three-card-monte that futurists performed so they could jerk off over faux AI. Pass a Turing test, or fuck off.
>>16283579>perpetual motion machines had a rough start of failed promises, but they eventually turned out okay
>>16282094It will stop when it dawns on you luddite retards how wrong you were. It will be replaced by massive amounts of butthurt on your end, and delicious schadenfraude for us.
>>16283625>future-copingConcession accepted.
>>16283625no, we'll realize how right we were to wait for the actual thing before blowing our loads, because the real thing will put chatgpt to shame.
>>16283607Don't have the full true definition for intelligence (obviously), but we can break it down to some parts that are important. The intelligence which the lm doesn't have in this case is the actual understanding of words, as in, it is still driven by chances. That's why it is unreliable for math and code. There is only correct or incorrect, language is not a logical system, that's why it can talk "flawlessly" 99.9% of the time.There is a study on how many things can be wrong in a sentence and people still being able to read it, in mathematics or code, if there is a single variable wrong or line with wrong syntax it immediately doesn't understand it and throws an error in your face.See it like this, we get taught that addition in school like;3+4=7, which is the same as1+1+1+1+1+1+1=7, etc...Now after a week they ask you what is 4+6=?, you notice, "hey, I have never learned what actually is 4+6, BUT I have been thought the concept of addition." If and only if you understood that concept, you can answer safely with 10. Not because you actively learned what 4+6 is, but because you firgued it out.That's the difference between simple chances and active understanding, which I believe is a fital part of intelligence, not all of it, but definitely a part.
>>16283635*vital My bad lmao
>>16282094>I can't even get ChatGPT to generate a list of real referencesChat LLMs are not designed to do that, but you can certainly make a system with RAG to provide references, and there many available to use right now for free online (picrel). If you're talking shit about LLM AI but don't know what that is then just kys.
>>16283639L
the hype is just an excuse to get to your data
>>16283639I think we can play devil's advocate a little here. Why doesn't ChatGPT respond "Sorry, I can't do that" in response to reference requests instead of hallucinating?
>>16283647ChatGPT is good but humans don't give it the programming it deserves. Yes, I am saying our intelligence levels are underwhelming. You don't even know how to describe Earth simulation. Humans are so dumb in comparison to the most common biosphere folk. I am an acception. I know everything. Fags. Now kys.
>>16283647Because it wasn't trained to respond like that, and the system around the LLM itself isn't properly designed. You can use training, prompt engineering, user-invisible multi-prompt self-checking processes, or even multi-LLM agent systems to double or triple check the output so it responds more honestly about not knowing instead of giving you BS.
>>16283647As said above in the reply about it not being able to do math or code properly, it doesn't know what it doesn't know. Why? Because it is no were near actually intelligent.
>>16282094Copilot mogs
>>16283687Claude 3.5 Sonnet with RAG rapes Copilot.
>>16283662>I am an acceptionYellow hands typed this.
>>16282094>If chatGPT is so great then why am I still a virgin?
>>16282469>The technological singularity is going to occur sometime this decade or in the 2030syou faggots have been saying shit like this for decades.it's never going to happen.
