Why isn't any country or organization trying to land a person on Mars? It shouldn't be that much more difficult than landing a person on the moon, right?Just scaling up that operation, dealing with the longer journey and slightly different physics/gravity requirements. Dealing with a thin atmosphere.
> It shouldn't be that much more difficult than landing a person on the moon, right?Imagine being retarded enough to believe that humans managed to successfully land and come back from the moon 55 years ago not once but 4 times. It was obviously filmed in a studio. Just look today at SpaceX's shuttles getting destroyed one after the other. The bathroom that is in orbit ("iNtErNaTiOnAl sPaCe StAtIoN"), operates at an altitude between 330km and 420km. That's like the distance between Edinburgh and Manchester or Birmingham at most. https://x.com/GodfreeTrh/status/1792700040961777780
>>16295234>Statistically, the success of moon landing is 50%.already off the bat this is a moronic post
>>16295145pretty sure spacex is ultimately aiming to do just that.
>>16295249I dont get why its taking so long
>>16295261Jews stand a lot to lose from the species not being locked onto one prison planet
>>16295145Simply put, it's a multi-trillion dollar prestige project that even the US doesn't need at the moment. There's nothing "on" Mars, it's just a frozen desert at the bottom of a gravity well, so all it would be is the most expensive selfie photo in human history when even the Chinese have landed rovers that can do this. All the accessible wealth in the solar system is scattered around in asteroids and comets.Artemis is an exact match for mankind's capabilities at the moment...a lunar base serviced by a lunar space station that will test all the equipment needed for these future ambitions.>>16295249Musk likes to talk big to make his fans dream bigger, and it's worked up to the point that he actually made that colossal Super Heavy booster work, but the endeavor itself is daunting af. Even he's still catching up to Artemis's requirements (picrel).>>16295234>>16295263Gay sex gives you schizophrenia.
>>16295261mars is hard job>>16295292small steps elle, small steps
>>16295145>>16295145>Why isn't any country or organization trying to land a person on Mars?Nobody drages a hole on the coldest point of earth 2000 km/miles below surface. Why?
>>16295145SpaceX is, but rather than do a Mars direct type plan they're just going to begin building a city from the get go. They're currently solving for the vehicle and thus haven't devoted any engineer time to anything else. We're going to see some crazy shit when Starship is mature.
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>>16295387nasa has been running real time mars habitat trials on earth for a while now. people have been living like they are on mars in tests for months if not a year by now i think. perhaps those results etc will be shared with Spacex.
>>16296199How come no one has tried the Biosphere experiment again?Seems like it could be very useful for testing the viability of self-sustaining habitats, if performed by a corporation who isn't completely incompetent.
>>16296224wonder if that is the next step after establishing a fixed habitat which requires resupply? with starship it really would become possible to move all the shit a biosphere would need to mars.
Can a Boring Company TBM fit inside a Starship?
>>16295145>Why isn't any country or organization trying to land a person on Mars?lack of economic incentive>It's not that much more difficult than a moon landing. Just scale it up broeasier said than done. I dont think you understand just how vast space is. In 1 second, light can travel around the earth 8 times. It takes one second for light to go from the earth to the moon. It takes about 14 minutes for light to go from earth to mars. You see the kind of scale we're dealing with? How do you plan to get enough specific impulse in your rocket to get you to space with enough velocity to get you to mars in a reasonable time? Are you gonna build something outrageous like an 8-stage rocket? That's extremely fucking difficult, especially due to the rocket equation. TL;DR we probably could, but it's too much effort and money for a project with no economic incentive.
>>16296382>Are you gonna build something outrageous like an 8-stage rocket?no, but orbital refueling has merit since getting to LEO is pretty much 90% of the work involved in getting the deltaV to leave orbit.
>>16296224>>16296382ignore the difficulties of construction for the first ever mars habitat for the moment and imagine that it is actually done, and by one country realize the literal shitstorm that will happen once it exists as every country and their mom wants to to use it, as traveling to mars is much cheaper than traveling to mars + building something habitable from scratchimo I think everyone will just try to piggyback the first one once it happens (like the ISS but on steroids, cause its much easier to expand upon)
