Virginijus Šikšnys is a Lithuanian biochemist and a professor at Vilnius University. He is a chief scientist at the Vilnius University Institute of Biotechnology.He developed gene editing method a month before Jennifer Doudna and Emmanuelle Charpentier on the bottom, but unlike them Virginijus Šikšnys didn't get nobel Prize for his work.Because these women had more tight connections with academic sphere and their work was not even reviewed but Šikšnys's work was rejected for no reason>Since 2007 Šikšnys focused on mechanistic studies of CRISPR-Cas, the newly discovered bacterial antiviral systems, and was among the first to demonstrate programmable DNA cleavage by the Cas9 protein.>According to Šikšnys, his article was not even considered as serious by the editor board of the academic journal and was not sent to the reviewers, therefore the time needed to be recognized as first was lost.>Martin Schlak reported that Šikšnys submitted his article describing DNA cleavage by Cas9 to Cell Reports on 18 April 2012. After its rejection without peer review, he sent it to PNAS one month later, and it took several months for review and publication. In the meantime, Jennifer Doudna and Emmanuelle Charpentier had published their findings in Science where their findings were reviewed and accepted within two weeks.Also after some time there was a report that shared some money from nobel prize, It looks like he was paid to keep quiet
>>16369964Are you a lithuanian by any chance?
>>16369964The Japanese guy who discovered the CRISPR mechanism in bacteria in the first place also didn't get any recognition.
>>16369964Honestly, who cares? This is all just soft sciences nonsense. Give the discovery credit to the women, it's Biology nobody cares.
>>16370024>soft sciences>Microbiology
>>16370007Well, he did a good job but that was ordinary
>>16369999Why should he be?
>>16370007Yeah really?
>>16370034Who is Michael and why do I care about his biology
>>16369964Why the fuck do all these boomer women shitlib bourgeois academic types always wear these scarves? They all wear these lightweight neckscarves. It's like how they signal to other woke elites and intellectuals that they're not uneducated, anti-science proletarian subhumans. It's like the analog of club belts for boomer women, so you can signal to your peers and flex on the chuds with you sophisticated, bourgeois sense of style.
>>16369964Imagine calling your son "Virginijus"
>>16374684Over from the starte
>>16369964Did he at least publish a preprint somewhere first?
>>16376840Look at him, his name is literally virgin and he was bullied by two women. You think he would care about it?
>>16376840>Did he at least publish a preprint somewhere first?That fact that his paper was submitted first is not in dispute.The funny part is that the peer-reviewer at the journal where he sent it happened to be too stupid to understand the paper, so it was rejected. He submitted it as it was to another journal with someone less retarded, but by then it was too late, of course.So his groundbreaking paper lost because of a peer referee who was probably only on staff to check a quota box.
>>16377452>ground breaking workLook, I'm team virgin as much as the next guy, mainly because I worked at the same department under the guy. but quantifying a few CAS proteins isint as significant as describing the higgs field or finding out what DNA does. Everyone and their grandmas dog was working on CAS proteins at the time, not to discredit the work, because it was superb and the whole team was and is very competent (and its basically one of the two departments that carry the whole institute) but god damn dude, touch some fucking grass and take some lithium salts. Are the nobels political, yes they are, did the cunts deserve a nobel, maybe kinda, they did groundbreaking work as well, point is everything in life is shit, except piss, the department burns through honors students by working them to the bone like toilet paper during cholera for example.Suck it up nigger, also if you are spamming Virginijus, get some psychological help before you go for the high score in LSC.
>>16369964niekada nesulaukiame pripazinimo kurio esame nusipelne..
>>16379152>I don't want to discredit his work and I'm on his team >Cunts deserve nobel and his work isn't as significant
>>16374671Evil love style
>>16379387Seems like op cares more about women part than the Lithuanian part
>>16379152>GUISE I TOTALLY WORKED WITH HIM.Everyone believes you.
>>16377452>the peer-reviewer at the journal where he sent it happened to be too stupid to understand the paper, so it was rejected. He submitted it as it was to another journal with someone less retarded, but by then it was too late, of course.interestingof course i need you to submit the paper that explains why or how the first reviewers were indeed retarded just to be clear
>>16370034you are right, that's not soft science but outright gooey.
>>16383732You dont have any clue about what are you talking about
>>16370024Jeet detected
>>16379152>everything in life is shit, except pissPure wisdom.
>>16369964Yes, that is what academic snobbism is - you can do top-tier work, be first to make the actual discovery and still be overlooked while publishing just because you are from a 3rd tier institution while someone from a high-tier institution can get into a prestigious journal with almost immediately.Yes, he was snubbed for the Nobel.No, it is not fair.Yes, we just have to accept it, as there is no fighting the system and all of its biases that is orders of magnitude more powerful than any individual or even an institution. For everyone who was awarder there are 10 people whose work was just as groundbreaking but they received no recognition due to snobbism and politics.Yes, I am Lithuanian.No, I did not work with this guy nor do I know him personally.You may continue to be mad
>>16379387Deja
>>16384999*Scandinavian, nordic
>>16369964can you link what you are quoting?
>>16386289It's probably his wiki page
>>16385120Do you wanna kys,
>>16369964He is white but kind of swarthy and not chad looking, of course society at large will ignore such a man.
>>16391705he's a scientist, what do you expect him to look like?
>>16391705In what world he is considered swarthy? He looks deadpale
>>16391709Like gay faggot
>>16370024Indian retard
>>16379152I believe you. However, what he or you or the woman did wasn't very impressive. I can only imagine leading as easy of lives as all of you have had it and can't relate one bit to your world.
>>16394093>worthy of a Nobel>wasn't very impressivepick one
>>16394161>programmable DNA cleavage by the Cas9 protein.Not that impressive. An upper midwit can achieve this provided he has a nice stable job, can eat without worrying about breaking the bank, no major expenses, and having resources and bitchboy helpers like you helps considerably. Time, money, no stress, doing something your interested in, you can achieve a lot. He has it easy.
>>16394816Imagine how easier it was for women considering the level of their bitchboys in prestigious western facilities whose bitchboy's effort they equalated to girl power
>>16394816I would like to see you do anything of that scale by yourself. Given by how you speak, I think you are probably some armchair "specialist"
Women moments of history
They should be beaten
>>16370024Poo.
>>16370024
>>16397766N
>>16374671They are old, fat and have double chins and weird wart ridden saggy wrinkled turkey necks to hide.
>>16394885Yet you have no real defense or counter to the criticism. 'I would like you see you try' is something that low IQ blue collar people would levy (which would have been a more fitting station for you in life). The other, is simply tone policing that you have learned from the prissy scarf women. The only thing you managed to demonstrate with this outburst is that you are not as intelligent as I am. To address it, I lack the background, the time, and the money. If I had sufficient capital, where I would no longer need to work, and was paid, I would call your bluff and within two years would surpass the professor and his malcontents.
>>16379152>did the cunts deserve a nobel, maybe kindaWhat happened to "quantifying a few CAS proteins isint as significant " and why did you ignore it as soon as you had a couple of cunts to appeal to?
>>16398605>'I would like you see you try' is something that low IQ blue collar people would levyOnly against other even lower IQ blue collar people who say even stupider shit like "Its pretty easy to revolutionize science if you just get a nice stable job, so you don't have to worry about money".
>>16398654Completely agree.Not to mention a top-notch lab with all the infrastructure in place along with research assistants who are motivated to help me and are highly qualified in a specialized sub-field.Yeah, given all that, making substantial contributions to any field is pretty easy.I guess that is why all those MIT, Stanford and Cambridge PIs leading research groups make these contributions in the first place - not because they are inherently more knowledgeable or skilled (which they MIGHT be), but simply because they are given ALL the means to do so
>>16398605>I can do anything, just don't have the meansSuure
>>16398941Therefore this dude's contribution is amazing. He did all of it without resources these women have, and made it before them
>>16399075yes, and he got snubbed for the Nobel for all his hard work, just because he was not from a prestigious institution, even though he was first to make the discovery
>>16399093when the current establishment falls, his name will be remembered
>>16399096I doubt that will happen in our lifetime, if ever
>>16399123World is a rapidly changing system
>>16400720true, but people tend to overestimate how fast things progress in the short term
>>16400777As they underestimate the vice versa scenario
bump for (mostly) quality discussion
>>16374671Hides the neck waddles
>>16374671They are the turkey
bump for boredom
>>16370024Kill yourself rajesh
Maybe we should force him as a meme?
>>16405477how does that work?
>>16405479Well, anons always know how to do stuff like that. We can make a meme from his name (literally virgin) and that Lithuanians kill themselves
>>16406345sounds mean spirited
>>16406689Do you have some other ideas?
>>16406705I think the time for this has passed - the time for outrage and some sort of campaign was immediately after the Nobel was announced that year - now it has largely faded into obscurity (aside from this basket weaving forum that is). Also, at least he did not end up with nothing - he got the Kavli prize in nanotechnology
>>16406759Well, this basket forum can make anything with enough determination though. And the problem of gynocentrical academia is very important and big right now
>>16407298both statements are true. If you think you have a decent shot, go for it
>>16407672But do you have passion about it?
>>16407784not really
>>16397766Pajeet
>>16407884Why? Would be interesting
>>16374671They're all into choking and autoerotic asphyxiation - the scarves hide the bruises
>>16374671Evil loves style
As Kant predicted
>>16383732Rajesh
>>16395857Curie is also fake
>>16413711was not
>>16414401Was.
>>16415057proof?
>>16415144name me 1(one) formula that was made by marie instead of pierre
>>16415798easy - every formula
>>16415845>every formula
>>16415845>>16415861based
>Also after some time there was a report that shared some money from nobel prize, It looks like he was paid to keep quietLink for this?
>>16369964>Wah-wah-wahThe Global Wahmbulance Service is Temporarily Overwhelmed. Please try again later.
>>16416310Kys
>>16417303>Wah-wah-wahBrilliant.
>>16417468You can't talk normally aren't you
>>16415845Lies
>>16418672>You can't talk normally aren't youClassic.
>>16370007yea and no one talks about rasiRNA despite two nobel prizes are now directly related with its research. Argonaut proteins can be programmed the same way as gRNAs in cas9 on a transcriptional level (while also being self-amplifying in the germline) but miRNA takes the cake because hairpins are simple to use in knockdowns.it's a humbug, but malding won't solve that issue. there's massive teams looking at reprogramming these systems nowadays, so I don't really give a fuck.
>>16421016Classic my ass
>>16370007He wasn't gay enough
>>16421379This guy looks gay?
>>16409729this but unironically
Women always had it easy
>>16370024Man, you're a tard who's never folded proteins. Molecular gen/biochem have a higher male-to-female ratio than chemcuckery and physics. Keep copin' shitsin!>>16397766Indian
>almost half of the replies have 5 words or lessvery organic
>>16421088Because he can't fuck around and get everything as these fucking whores
>>16374671they're nooses. it's a jungian response to being a fucking worthless fraud getting by because you have a dried up pussy between your cellulite-ridden legs, you subconsciously put a noose around your neck.
>>16428629Seems like you are newbie
>>16370024Why are paeets so idiotic? It's kn their dna?
>>16415955Based only in your small brain. Midwit
>>16369964>Virginijus ŠikšnysThat sounds like a very common condition on /sci/
>>16434565I don't think this place is so much virgin
>>16434567>He doesn't know
>>16415798The most retarded comment I've seen for awhile
>>16434565Virgin bros...
>>16438298Not like this
>>1636996412 months.
>>16440080What 12 months?Captcha GMRNA
>>16369964There is so much controversy with so many Nobel prizes that at some point and adult male just has to accept that they are bullshit.
>>16440338But there was no controversy, people didn't care and accepted feminism dogma
>>16440338unfortunately, you are right
>>16440839normies are getting indoctrinated, what can you do
>>16440338What controversies except this and lobotomy were in scientific nobel?
>>16440901Normies are the worst
>>16443901And yet, they are the reason society functions
>>16444294Elaborate?
>>16445274They do all the normal jobs the economy needs, thus creating value, some of which can be redistributed to serve the needs of society including infrastructure, healthcare, education, science, etc
>>16445429Normies mostly work on fake jobs, real shit is done by nerds and chads
>>16445964No - there are not enough of them (even combined) to pull the economy
>>16445995Their jobs are fake, they are not essential for economy, their effort is pointless
>>16446895Tell me which jobs are fake then
>>16447228>Almost all jobs related to bureaucracy>Jobs related to maintain this bureaucracy >Half of personal in highly producing jobs, because most job is done by nerds, and normies do mostly harm
>>16447228>>16447707Also forgot: women in science works
>>1636996412 months
>>16450256What do you mean? Elaborate
>>16445964>>16447707>>16448417Essentially all jobs in construction, industry, medicine, law, retail, advertising, sales - are done by normies, not nerds or chads
>>16451152>law, retail, advertising, salesAlready almost replaced >construction, industry, medicineNot only normies
>>16451994>Already almost replacedReplaced by what? IA? Anyone who has used ChatGPT or any other AI knows it is a far cry from an actual professional>Not only normiesMostly normies
>>16452006>Mostly normiesTher wouldn't be a need for so many normies for these occupations if there wouldn't be normies
>>16453095There would be no need for the economy if there were no humans
>>16453265*No useless humans
>>16453265Only non normies deserve life
>>16369964Fyi DuPont (huge chem multinational) got some licenses for some of this CRISPR-Cas9 tech.>>16413711>Curie is also fakeIsn't she known for having discovered an element? I recall reading they were extracting radioactive stuff and when it was all extracted she realized something radioactive was still in the rock or whatever. So they looked and indeed there was something else. A few days later they presented the findings. I'm no chemist/biologist/etc but she's the only one I can name who discovered an element. For men the bar for fame is set a lot higher.
>>16453835Females love megacorps
>>16453835>Isn't she known for having discovered an elementShe "discovered" it as a lab technician for her husband
>>16369964say 12 months in estonian.
>>16415845Why are you so retarded?
>>16457226Elobarate already
>>16453835Is dupont an evil organisation?
>>16459979They do pollute the environment, so yes. Then again, so do all manufacturers
>>16451152You have no idea what you are talking about. You should kill yourself normalfag
>>16460837no, you don't have any idea what you are talking about. Normies are 90% of all people, hence essential for the economy in every way
>>16460842Only for normies, if normies are gone then there is no economic bloat
>>16461868Define the "bloat". What is it - construction, healthcare, energy, transportation, tech?
>>16462275>Define the "bloat". What is it - construction, healthcare, energy, transportation, tech?Excessive production of these goods for normies
>>16463295And what counts as "excessive"?
>>16463744Production that is meant to serve normies
>>16463815circular reasoning detected - you are a bot
>>16464022No normies = no need for production for them.Production for normies = uselessTry to use buzzwords in other places. Maybe on lit, normie
>>16465232I farted.
>>16465236Fart with your pseudo logical fallacies in other places
>>16379152>the department burns through honors students by working them to the bone like toilet paper during choleranever go to work for academia, thats my life motto
>>16467248why do you think industry is any better
>>16467299At least they pay more
>>16468237probably the only saving grace
>>16369964why isn't this known to the public?
>>16468329It is very known in Lithuania. In the US and other western countries people just don't care about it, because its these big rich countries that "keep on winning" - they were not hurt by this
>>16468387Can you add some information about this story?
>>16468484The broadstrokes are presented by OP.Here are some sources in Lithuanian (use google translate on the website)1) https://www.delfi.lt/mokslas/mokslas/siu-metu-nobeliai-papiktino-net-forbes-teigia-kad-laureatu-turejo-tapti-ir-prof-siksnys-854984472) https://www.delfi.lt/mokslas/mokslas/lietuvos-mokslo-bendruomene-yra-nusivylusi-nobelio-premija-turejo-gauti-ir-prof-siksnys-85433677
>>16468665Why non Lithuanians don't talk about it? Maybe he us fake?
>>16469540>he is*He is
>>16469540Because they don't care about Lithuania. Most of them probably cant even put us on the fucking map correctly because we are a small post soviet shithole
>>16469683R u mad? R u biologist?
>>16470423a bit mad, but not a biologist
>>16424289This
>>16369964That's just Fabio Fazio, you infidel blaspbemerMogul Boldi will claim your flesh
>>16471237>That's just Fabio FazioWhat
>>16468665This is really suspicious that only shituanians care about this so called discovery
>>16473506They care about not getting recognition for the discovery, dumbass
>>16473557If this was so big, westerners probably would do something about it
>>16474811What for? They were not the ones hurt by this
>>16474891Russians also always claim something
>>16476312makes no sense
>>16476735It actually makes, ee people are always claiming something
>>16374671Evil trait
>>16453835Oy vey
>>16465236Most valuable thing you could ever do
>>16413711This
>>16369964It shows that women should not be part of academia
Women are just stupid animals
>>16451152Google bullshit jobs
>>16487628None of the ones mentioned were bullshit though
>>16374671>wear these scarvesIt's to cover all the hickeys they get from the conference orgies they attended for their "established" careers.Then they give out panels about how hard it is to be woman in academia.
>>16488110Read the book
>>16488974what book?
>>16379152>describing the higgs field>significantlollmao
>>16489942Are you retarded?
>>16489405Bullshit jobs
>>16490677To some extend, every job is a bullshit job
>>16490810No, some jobs are by no mean bullshit
>>16491454like what?
>>16491460Delivery boy
>>16382830stop trying to imitate german autism, you just sound indiando better.
>>16492401the most bullshit job there is
bump
>>16493008bumping the bump
>>16493017Bumping the bumping of the bump
>>16493805Bumping the bumping of the the bumping of the bump
>>16494291Bumping the bumping of bumping of the bumping of the bump
>>16495053Bumping of the bumping of the bumping of the bumping of the bumping of the bump
Women
>>16496170Hahaha
>>16489942It is very significant
Academia is just fart sniffin club for certain friends.
holy shit this thread is old
>>16498183yes
>>16498183The truth is never old
>>16499223True
>>16379152>quantifying a few CAS proteins isint as significant as describing the higgs fieldActually, it is. Even describing my shitstains on the anus after I take a shot is of more value to science, because at least it describes something real.
>>16490175He does not believe in mathematical fiction with zero implications for our lives, so no.
>>16369964He is too white and male
>>16500142sad but true
