>Generative artificial intelligence uses 30 times more energy than a traditional search engine, warns researcher Sasha Luccioni, on a mission to raise awareness about the environmental impact of the hot new technology.>Recognized as one of the 100 most influential people in the world of AI by the American magazine Time in 2024, the Canadian computer scientist of Russian origin has sought for several years to quantify the emissions of programs like ChatGPT or Midjourney.>"I find it particularly disappointing that generative AI is used to search the Internet," laments the researcher, who spoke with AFP on the sidelines of the ALL IN artificial intelligence conference, in Montreal.>The language models on which the programs are based require enormous computing capacities to train on billions of data points, necessitating powerful servers.>Then there's the energy used to respond to each individual user's requests.>Instead of simply extracting information, "like a search engine would do to find the capital of a country, for example," AI programs "generate new information," making the whole thing "much more energy-intensive," she explains.>According to the International Energy Agency, the combined AI and the cryptocurrency sectors consumed nearly 460 terawatt hours of electricity in 2022 -- two percent of total global production.https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240915-ai-is-accelerating-the-climate-crisis-expert-warns
I am accelerating the climate crisis too.
>>16383667All of the corporations listed in the bottom right panel are massively invested in AI development and are shilling it everywhere 24/7 right now.
i don't give a shit about climate change but i did find this interesting
Man this sucks. I have no other means to coom, not really, not in a way that satisfies my heart in addition to my penis. I can't go back knowing what I'm missing out on, even if what I'm addicted to is nothing compared to real romance and real breeding (both are unrealistic goals).
>>16383658Wtf I love ai now
>>16383658OK. Get space travel going so we can have computers in space that run off solar power.
>>16383673Yeah but they were all destroying the environment 20 years before AI was even on the company roadmap.
>>16383658>Instead of simply extracting information, "like a search engine would do to find the capital of a country, for example," AI programs "generate new information," making the whole thing "much more energy-intensive," she explains.This is a good point. They need to make AI less "chatty". When I want to know why there's pus and blood leaking out of my foreskin, I don't need to have the reply prefaced by "Wow, what an interesting question!" or finished up by "Would you like to know more about the downsides of jerking off ten times a day?"...just give me the answer.
>>16383658I'm pretty sure all that energy isn't really needed
I was sort of taken aback when I saw AI DoomIt runs at 20FPS and has approximately three seconds of object permanenceIt requires an ASIC that has 96GB of RAM and 459TFLOPS of compute powerI did not shitpost or exaggerate a single one of those numbers I just stated
>>16383667THISI get that we're blaming generative AI, but it's always a really shallow conversation. Why not a conversation about the carbon emissions from x86 processors compared to ARM or RISC based ones? It's always a gotcha piece that checks the corporate box of "we talked about ethics without taking any responsibility"
>>16386201Carbon emissions of bloatware could be a fun topic in fake and gay world.
>>16383658Imagine all people would drive to library to get that amount of information instead of AI. We would consume all remaining oil in a 6 months like that. I think it's good value/climate credit price tradeoff to have AI. Now it's our purpose to use it against climate change.
>>16383658>(((they))) deployed a "think about environment" argumentuh oh, AIsisters...but I guess I understand why. Too much of an unemployment will cause huge destabilization and people might get angry and start asking questions who is responsible(the government)
>>16383658I keep my computers running AI 24/7. Get fucked faggot leftists
total computation potential is conserved. "approximately-economical" maximum computation SHALL be performed without exception. if the object of focus is not publically-available AI models then the object of focus for the total conserved computation potential SHALL migrate to another object of focus.
Bump.
>>16386219This. It just doesn't matter. Take the bus or ride a bike instead of driving a couple times a month and you'll more than make up for whatever your computer wastes.
>>16383864isn't most the energy used for training anyway? the power to run these models is very small when compared to training them
>>16383864Annoying boilerplate courtesy stuff takes negligible amounts of energy, I'm sure.
>>16383658Probably accounts for 0.001% of the energy used in the world.
Experts are accelerating the climate crisis. Maybe we should replace them with an AI god.
>>16386195Ive heard about this, and I expected... I dunno what exactly, but something other than just vanilla Doom.What is even the point?
>>16392422Mutahar made a de ent video about it.
>>16383673And they'll still lecture you on not living your life in a green manner.
>>16392412Sounds good, human self governance has been a shitshow. Worst case scenario everyone dies, oh well.
>>16383864that doesn't involve much power usage, you're stupid
buy an adOP is a faggotOP is an alarmist shillOP is shilling for alarmismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarmism
the people involved with so-called "artificial intelligence" are really sick and sadistic, and they're attacking journalists and promoting fear, uncertainty, and doubthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubtWestern journalist need to see Reddit and OpenAI as part of the Facebook and Twitter network monopoly. Reddit, OpenAI, Facebook, and Twitter are monopolists.Journalists need to be much more aggressive when covering the disgusting, monopolistic, exploitative social media industry.I mean, these are really filthy, disgusting people, and you shouldn't help journalists help them spread their filth!
>>16383658its still to cold
