>Indians now in charge of all your highest paid and most influential jobs
How does it feel getting uno reverse colonised? Gonna cry? lmao

>>16420162
tbf the board of investors (jews) is where the buck really stops

>>16420184
doesn't matter whether you think Indians are your kings or your princes... you are still the peasants and Indians are above you now.. better get used it

Applied physics/math or regular?
Seems like the regular variant is just a waste of time, as nobody cares about QFT or strings irl

>>16420386
>applied physics
Anywhere which distinguishes between "physics" and "applied physics" is pretty much guaranteed to be so shit it won't matter which one you pick.

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>>16420524
how is picrel bad?
Also every good university has applied physics

>>16420159
Ive only heard bad things about academia for research because of the hyper competitive funding. Also when it comes to publishing papers you have to play the game of putting your name on papers you had no real contribution to in order to get your H score up.
I want to go into research for genetics, specifically rare disease. Is industry a better career choice if I dont want to play the papers game and just want to solve problems and be in a lab?

>>16420159
lol that guy is north indian 100%

>>16420524
Citation needed.

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>>16420654
south indians are overrepresented in the states. they are the ones who commit game the immigration system, commit visa frauds and become rubber-stamp ceos. the consulting, staffing, outsourcing firms only take in (south) indians and apply multiple times for a visa. moreover they look subhuman.
>inb4 citation needed
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-staffing-firms-game-h1b-visa-lottery-system/

I am crushed. Utterly defeated. I am too sweet for this world.

>supervisor responded explicitly to the other members of the lab and not me even though I also responded to his query

That's it he's fucking dead.

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>>16420159
Just started my Mechanical Engineering degree. Does anyone have any books that talk about Internal Combustion Engines? Also is picrel a good list of textbooks to sift through?

>>16420199
Really strange how the Indian overlords are chronically incapable of civilizing their own nation.

Best online degrees for adults learners?

>>16420528
>applied physics
wouldn't that just be engineering?

thoughts on /goingback/ for a chemistry degree at 30? online is literally not an option.

>>16421158
Going back is brutal, should only be done as a last resort, also college is expensive as fuck so you need an extremely detailed and well-defined planned. You're at the age where you can't just take on a bunch of stupid debt anymore.

>>16420159
whats the math field that will make me a stock market god?

>>16421168
The stock market is the jewish casino and the house always wins.

>>16421172
What math do the Khazarian occultists use to make their sweet sweet shekels?

>>16421162
>brutal
its true, i would dread being around a bunch of judgemental teenagers. the money is not a big issue and i'd be going in-state. managing pre-requisites is tricky but ideally i'd be done in 6 semesters, and theres 2 summer semesters. so theoretically i could be done by 1st summer semester of 2026 if i start this spring, or in about 18 months and since i have a degree already i could skip a lot of electives BS.

>>16421177
>math
Lol. It's called insider trading and securities fraud.

>>16421194
Just because they technically have summer semesters doesn't mean they will be offering the courses you need, especially in a program like chemistry. At my college the summer selection was very limited and never included upper level stuff.
Getting them to count your previous course work is usually a chore, you have to realize that they want you to take more classes and spend more money. What is your degree in?

>>16421196
teach me the ways of the curly chest hair

>>16421200
great point. i chec.ked last years summer catalog and while they do offer 1st and 2nd year chem classes in each 6 week semester, theres only one 3rd and one 4th year chem class I need that I could take in the summer. at least it would work for the first summer of knocking out a couple pre-req classes before i could load up on multiple higher level classes. my degree is worthles liberal arts lel, I had no idea what to do when i was 19. never even used it so its only use would be skipping me through electives. So it looks like It would take more like 2 whole years unfortunately. I would much prefer online but you cant get a chem degree online..

>>16421236
Yeah there's too much lab work to do it completely online.
When you are getting advised about your study plan and what classes will transfer in, be annoying as shit about each class you think should count and make them explain to you exactly why it won't, multiple times if necessary.
You have to think every class that you can get transferred in is saving you thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of effort.
When I transferred colleges, they said that my physics 1 and 2 couldn't be transferred even though they were both calculus based and both ABET programs. I fought them to an obnoxious level and they finally were just like okay fuck it we will count them and I saved myself a year of work not having to redo those.

There are so many people who owe me a big apology

>>16421277
You owe Obama a big blowjob.
So how's about you just go blow Obama ok?

>>16421255
>be annoying as shit
kek, thats me fren. will do. also will do some research and see what courses can transfer or do online...what was your degree in? is /goingback/ brutal for any reason other than what I mentioned earlier? thanks

>>16421283
He is an inner rival to you, due to internal tensions between you and this man, the amount you lose for a simple act of affection, like a blowjob, is grave. All the more sweeter for your slave mind.

>>16421286
I went back at 30 to get a BSEE.
I'm a lifelong foreveralone so I had no delusions about making friends or a gf, but simply being surrounded by zoomers all the time was like being in hell.

>>16421347
nice, good job. how long did it take you? are you using your degree? would be brutal if I couldnt get a job after going back..this is still the early stages for me and i have more research to do. being around teen zoomies will be suicide fuel.

Domo arigoto Mr. Faggoto

Consulting is all about bullshitting, so if you manage to get hired by faking 8 years of your background and manage to get hired at a big 4 then you deserve that job.

>>16421385
It took me 3 years, I graduated in 2022 and had a huge number of offers even though I was a completely mediocre student/applicant. I went on an applying/interviewing frenzy and ended up with over 10 offers even though my resume was a complete joke.
The job market now is so much worse. Even though my resume is much better and actually has experience on it now, I get basically auto-rejected from everything I apply to, can't even get an interview to save my life. I'm not necessarily looking to move on from my current job but I always look to see what's out there and how the job market is doing, and whenever I do apply to stuff it's just instantly rejected. It's night and day from when I was a fresh grad, it's so bizarre.

>>16421283
That Kenyan Muslim barack HUSSEIN obooma ruined the world when I was still a child he should be apologising to me.

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I'm employed now. It's fine for now but it's not well paid and not anything fancy. Just tired as shit all the time. And for the first time there's no next step anymore. Over a decade trying my hardest and sacrificing personal life just to end up somewhere like this. Zero idea how to proceed from here on, grinding this for the next 40 years seems too much.

Why don't more people kill themselves? I genuinely do not understand.

>>16421824
Yeah that is a horrible feeling.
I spent so long struggling through school, there was always a "next step" to get to, then I finally graduated and got the job and....there's no next step. It's just an endless, empty grind, eking out a miserable existence until I die.

>>16421826
>>16421824
>tfw utterly miserable EE student reading this
it gets better (i am lying to myself)

QRD on this program?
https://online.iu.edu/degrees/mathematics-bs-undergraduate.html

I want to pursue a math degree since it's the only field that has ever really interested me. The online format makes it even better.

>>16421824
> Why don't more people kill themselves?
A lot of 40 and 50 year old white people do, it’s the only cohort where suicide goes up as you age.
But its mostly age takes care of it. What you care about at 50 is much different than what you care about at 30, so most people survive the window.
But I am just pontificating, I don’t understand why more people don’t either

I’m going to pursue a bachelors in mechanical engineering next year. I’m an 8th grade dropout with a GED so my highest level of math is high school algebra, high school geometry and whatever is on the ASVAB, I got 99s across the board on it. I’m good at learning. Should I try to learn more math on my own before hand or will college teach me? Could I teach myself bad habits like guitar and fuck myself up? I know nothing about the college process and structure. I’m in the air force and leadership is really pushing me to utilize my benefits and go after an education. I’m genuinely interested in the field too obviously or I wouldn’t bother

>>16422454
Before 40 it's easier to sustain yourselves with fanciful projections of the future and delusions that you will live forever. Most young people simply take it for granted that they are actually immortal. Intellectually they understand that "everyone dies" as some sort of abstract theory, but deep down they know that they will live forever and they have an infinite amount of time and pleasure waiting for them.
Then you start aging, your parents die, life doesn't turn out how you think, all the people you knew either went their separate ways or died, and it's like, you just have nothing. And the realities of an aging body start to intrude on your daily thoughts and make it more and more difficult to delude yourself. And you realize there is no wonderful future to daydream about anymore really, this is it, this is all there is going to be for you. Your entire life has been an exercise in atomized materialistic hedonism and you have no spiritual resiliency or convictions at all, so you finally just collapse inward on yourself like an empty soda can and then the neighbors are making a call to the police to report the stench of a decomposing body a few weeks later.

>>16422465
Lady's and gentlemen, your mind on a STEM career. Let this be a warning, read some books.

I'm in industry and have 6 years experience in large scale chemical processing. Happy to answer any questions if anons have any.

>>16422644
Why was I put on this earth only to suffer the indignity of being a STEMcel?

>>16422648
Someone's gotta do it.

>>16422465
bro get a fucking grip
Take charge of your life. If you're unsatisfied, either change your life and fix it, or just kill yourself now. You want to sit around being a sad cunt all day long?

>>16422644
do you have to deal with a lot of bureaucratic overhead within the company

>>16420159
again to my mech eng friends
i was on a break and used the time to fix my own property, should i put that in linkedin and the cv? how should do it as a personal project time? or should i say fuck it and put myself as a self employed engineer working in buildings restorations

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>>16421048
The bible for ICE is Heywood's Fundamentals of Internal Combustion Engine. I bought it in hard cover and it's one of my jewels. But don't think about touching it at your stage, it's pretty heavy stuff for someone new. You need good fundamentals in engineering to even understand some of the formulas he's describing in it.

People in the industry buy it to show off and pretend they read it or look like they know what they're talking about but I don't know anyone who actually took time to read it. I've read it from cover to cover and I develop natural gas engines professionally. It's dry but it's the gold standard.

Otherwise this book list is pretty solid. Read the relevant assigned chapters and you are good during your education.

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>>16422933
Also here is my mech eng rec list, or books that I have used my career and consider good.

>>16422865
I would say medium level, not a lot but it can be occasionally. The main things to do with the bureaucracy (the board) are quality control of output product and budgeting for equipment, as well as equipment repair. One other thing that comes up occasionally is the hazardous waste disposal process, but I've learned lots of companies owners tend to slack on that.

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>>16422938
Here's an updated list.

>>16422954
Here's a post-from-a-fag
Kthyselfinthe4th

Fags why you keep posting?

>>16421824
I know the feeling - I lucked out into a low-tier academic position (the school being over-a-barrel trying to fill a sudden vacancy before the semester certainly helped), but I've been locked into that position for six years now. Every new position I apply to either automatically rejects me or just ghosts me entirely. Even with my resume getting steadily fleshed out, and even with all the research I've published and grants I've received over that time, I've applied to almost a hundred postings over the last four years and gotten nothing but instant rejections or ghosting. It's seeming more and more like this is just it, this is as good as it will get for me.

>>16422465
42 is still young. I got time to change.

Why are you going back and not just getting an online degree?

>>16422954
guys please study or read some machining etc... knowing how to actually manufacture stuff improves designs a ton

>>16423256
Honestly even just practice machining stuff and figure things out through trial and error. I picked up a dremel and some bits when I was in grad school just so I'd have the equipment and excuse to tinker with shaping pieces, cutting and finishing and drilling and tapping parts, etc. It's not a replacement for a good machining workshop (my own has expanded significantly since graduation), but it's a good start to get you thinking about practical things like how to make pieces fit together, the order of operations for making things, and so on.

>>16421824
>why don't more people kill themselves.
They are cowards unironically. The human will to live is very powerful, it takes enormous inner strength to actually pull the trigger.

>>16422465
It's sad but I can see this being a reality as I age. I'm still trying to pursue my "dreams" in some sense but I know this is possibly a very likely reality sadly.

>>16423281
i mean the best would be to actually get to a lthe and a mill, but even just learning probably will help a ton
specially if the future mech guy is doing lots of 3d printing , bc the thinking is pretty diferent
i cannot say which manufacturing book i would recomend thought

Wonder how difficult it is to get away with making up fake experience. I had a five year gap between my second and third post-university jobs, which for some reason freaks out HR and recruiters. No matter how many times I say I took time off the travel, hike, and visit family, they look at the five year gap like it was a prison term. The only reason why I don't make up a job at a company that has gone bankrupt is my resume was already out on LinkedIn with the gap on it. Don't know if there's some weird tracking system that's sold to HR department to notice that shit.

>>16423422
Of course, but not everyone has access to that. Hell, I'd never had access to basics like a drill press, grinder, or band saw until after I'd started working for a professor (my undergrad school was mostly theoretical faculty, so no machining equipment on site), let alone more complicated equipment like mills, lathes, CNCs, etc.; but by that point I'd gotten comfortable with basic shaping and working of materials so it wasn't hard to pick up more practical skills.

Any experience is better than none.

>>16423438
making up experiences only gets you into deep shit if
a) the employers actually care enough to check and
b) the experiences you're lying about convince your employer to put you in charge of something you're actually not equipped to do, in which case you could potentially be liable if it results in a costly or serious fuck up.

>>16421824
>>16422465
You all need to learn how to save money and achieve FIRE. If you make $150k/year before tax and save a good chunk of it (only spending $60k/year and putting the rest in the S&P 500, bonds, and savings) you can retire in less than 20 years while having $80k/year to freely spend for the rest of your life. It only requires a net worth of a little over $2m.
If you're not able to reach that salary, then you either need to spend less pre-retirement, spend less post-retirement, or work for longer. You literally just need to save $25k/year and rely on the conservative stock returns to set you free. Even if you don't start this until you're 30 you'll be retired by the time you're 50. You can also easily live off of $45k-50k in most parts of the country and retire that much sooner if you give up some luxuries.
All of this is easily attainable with a STEM career. What's your excuse?

>>16423530
>If you make $150k/year before tax and save a good chunk of it (only spending $60k/year and putting the rest in the S&P 500, bonds, and savings) you can retire in less than 20 years

How insightful. Never would I have thought that if I made 3x my salary and saved up most of it I would be able to retire after only 20 years or slaving away, leaving me with a total of 0 healthy years before the accumulated stress, poor lifestyle and lack of healthcare access kills me off.

I'm not american and a 150k salary is literally unheard of in my country. It's not even a massive shithole, although we're getting there pretty quick. But I make about $60k as a STEM PhD with degrees and postdoc from global top 5 institutions working an industry job.

>>16423530
No excuses here anon. I'm at 130 now and saving as much as possible. Working up to 150+

>>16423530
>Having trouble saving retiring? Have you tried making more money?
Gee, what useful advice. I'll put it right up there with
>Sick of being short? Have you tried being taller?

>>16423530
FIRE won't change the fact that I'm a 42 year old virgin with a broken dick.

>>16423530
>just make a $150k salary for 20 years bro
damn why didn't I think of that?

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What is the current cutting edge in AI/Computer Vision/Robotics, for you guys working in the field? Any book or content I can binge on to get up to speed? (As a math major)
I have a great opportunity to jump on this now with some really fun people, and I don't want to let them down.

What is the computational megaspeed of the highest mathematical vision artificial robotic models?

>>16420159

On the topic of the pic posted by OP, as someone who studied in India for a while and have some pajeet friends, fake resumes and experiences to land 6 figure tech jobs for Indians is a multi million dollar black money industry here in Texas alone.

I know a person who is a multi millionaire facilitating these fake degrees and experiences along with connections to some recruiters, and this man was a gas station owner before covid. They take around 30-40% of all the salary of the people that get jobs through their service.

Honestly this is partially one reason for the tech crisis right now and I have no conceivable answer as to why this hasn't been uncovered or blown up by now. Maybe most of the Indians that go down this path just have the intellect to grasp these tech jobs before their cover blows up.

>>16423846
>I have no conceivable answer as to why this hasn't been uncovered or blown up by now
Simply put, because a lot of powerful and influential people want it to keep happening.
The government (which is controlled by jews) see it as a way to attack the majority native population and make their position more secure through "open society" demographic tinkering.
The corporatists see it as a labor form of blockbusting.
The leftists see it as a stealth reparations program to funnel money to non-white groups.
The only people who ostensibly oppose stuff like this either have no institutional power at all (normal, every-day Americans) or have betrayed their obligations and been paid off.
In other words, you have no champion and no one is coming to save you.

>>16420544
>I want to go into research for genetics, specifically rare disease. Is industry a better career choice if I dont want to play the papers game and just want to solve problems and be in a lab?
Why would industries work on rare diseases. Industries are about making money. Unless they can reap huge profit margins on curing rare diseases, they'll stick with common ones.

>>16423758
Isn't this a misleading metric anyways?

>>16421177
>What math do the Khazarian occultists use to make their sweet sweet shekels?
They have special agreements with the exchanges to play the role of market makers, which means they provide liquidity in illiquid markets and in return they get to charge ridiculous spreads (VIG)

>>16423878
More like every broker is front running orders.

>>16423885
Yeah this is so true, our desk unintentionally did that at work (unironically took the finance route) and literally all that happens is you get an email saying “please remember this is illegal”
Zero consequences as long as you’re not a blatant serial offender

>>16422644
What degree did you graduate with? What kind of experience did you have that was relevant if any? How did you get the job?

>>16420159
>Jeet
Good luck USA. Y'all seriously need Trump rn

>>16421048
>Fluid Mechanics
>Picture of F1 car
wtf is this shit lol

>>16424053
Trump is the one demanding total jeet supremacy.

>>16422465
this was the most upsetting thing I have read in weeks, 10/10

I've heard horror stories on /stem/ warning anons about choosing the right supervisor and the worst thing they could do is pulling the plug on the project. It's happening to me now lmao.

The signs were there, I tried getting help early on and was greeted with vague or one sentence response. What's the point of paying tuition fee when I'm left up to my own devices to figure things out. I've been trying to get help interpreting my results before rounding off my project but all I get is "just document everything, not like it matters because the results are rubbish". It was doomed from the get-go. I should have heed advice from the anon who told me academia is just another circle jerk.

>>16423530
They're calling it just be fucking rich theory and it's taking 4chans science board by storm.

>>16424349
>paying tuition
You should've listened to the part where people told you to never take a PhD position where you have to pay. It means they don't actually want you.

Is there any hope to become a quant if i got shit grades in math undergrad

>>16424543
Truth

>>16420159
>Deloite
More trouble at Big Four:
>EY delays start dates for graduates because of slowdown in deals
https://archive.is/6m699
>EY has pushed back start dates for new graduates hired for its elite strategy adviser Parthenon, as big accounting and consulting firms continue to wrestle with the effects of a business slowdown.
>EY has told about 200 recruits who were due to start work at Parthenon in the US next month or in January that they will not be needed until the middle of next year, according to an internal message seen by the Financial Times.
From the comments field below, often worth checking out:
>Already last year my daughter and a couple of her friends were deferred for start dates first six months, then twelve months and then eternally. What started as an unexpected paid extended holiday ended with career havoc needing to find a new job offcycle. The promised stipends were not paid. One employer, Pearson Ham, seemed particularly nasty towards its recruits.

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>>16423498
The point of using a company that went out of business is so there's no one to check the employment history with. The fake experience would just be things I've already done but it still seems risky. Apparently the real problem is the "Ban the Box" movement that prohibits companies from asking if you have a criminal history. Because of that, employment gaps are now assumed to be prison time.

>>16424970
No. And realistically, you will find equally good compensation and just as intellectually stimulating (or more intellectually stimulating) work in tech.
t. did both

aspiring RF engi here, already a techie. Any good recs? I'm already going back to school to get some cad xp under my belt

>>16423551
>>16423578
>>16424397
You just need to save $25k/year, which you can do on much less than $150k/year of pre-tax income. You'll just need to have a lower (but still comfortable) standard of living for those 20 years.

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>>16423551
>>16429115
Also if you're spending $30k/year now and are comfortable spending $40k/year in retirement, you can still retire in 20 years. If instead you work 30 years, you can spend $90k/year in retirement.

Is there any widely recognized CAD certificates or exam that you can get through self-study? I am chemist who works in coatings for machine parts in industry but I would get ahead if I had some more cad skills.

>>16429203
how do you like being a chemist fren? salary?

>>16429129
>>16429115
I think you truly do not understand how different the numbers are outside of the US. I make around 60k per year pre-tax, but that's about 40k per year post-tax. As it happens, currently I live like a rodent and own a shitty little flat. So I can live on 12k per year, just about. This leaves me with 26k per year in savings. So, I can more or less match these FIRE calculations.

But this is only the case because I'm a lifeless incel substisting on the bare minimum, I literally only work and sleep. If I ever want to have things like a family or even a car or a nicer flat or eat at restaurants that goes out the window and I will live hand to mouth.

For this country, in terms of salary I'm in the top 20% and in terms of monthly savings I'm fairly certain I'm in the top 10% or more. So yes, I can retire one day, assuming I live in an old one-bedroom flat alone and eat beans until I'm 50 (and then I'll have barely enough to not work but continue that lifestyle until I gracelessly expire).

Here, it's supposed to be part of the social contract that you pay out your ass in taxes but the state has you covered for retirement, sickness, family and education. Unfortunately that turned out to be a pyramid scheme that is collapsing as we speak, and I think the people here don't fully understand it. Or if they do, I'm disappointed that they're not turning boomers into mincemeat. Taxes are higher than ever but the public systems are largely unavailable and this will only become worse.

>>16429300
I should say, I can live on about 14k USD per year.

The US is damn near unbeatable for a healthy single professional. I was there for a while and wish I'd stayed. But it wasn't entirely up to me. And the picture changes once you have a kid and childcare costs as much as one person's yearly salary and college costs as much as a house back home. Turns out I don't need to worry about family and kids thoughever so might as well have ridden it out.

>>16429300
>>16429300
>Be me
>Be Leafag
>Go to UK to earn more money
>Live in a shoebox to save more than my salary in Canada would have been
>Realise Canada has turned to shit, and UK too...

Where the fuck do I go now?

>>16420162
lmao no, it'll just automatically filter Indians as incompetent and worthless. It's like asking for a different physician the second a black doctor walks in.
enjoy your status as company destroyers.

>astrophysics professor can't figure out how to make ends meet on $70,000/yr
https://ktla.com/news/ucla-professor-says-hes-homeless-due-to-low-pay/

It's only the first semester, but I'm really not doing well in PhD. I am solidly below average in everything across the board. When is it time to give up?

>>16429668
In LA 70k is easily low enough to qualify for low income housing

>>16420684
Probably because south india is more developed

>>16424543
Not a PhD position. It's just a bachelor thesis I need to graduate and that's why I am frustrated with the help (or the lack of) I am getting. I should have reworded my post, my apologies.

>>16429702
You don't need to be good at anything to get a PhD, you just need to grind. That being said, maybe you should get a job instead.

>>16429668
>>16429732
Why do retards insist on living where they can't afford to live?
It's like they obsessed with being some high-status LA big shot even though they objectively cannot afford to live there. You got priced out, move away. Let the morally superior liberals import their Mexican slave class to do the menial labor for $4 an hour and move.

>>16430175
>menial labor
Such as being a professor at UCLA?

>>16430175
>if you're a teacher, university professor, manual laborer, nurse, tradesperson, you just can't afford to live here bucko, don't complain, just move!
>why is everything in society falling apart now?

Is it frowned upon to apply for more than one job at a time internally? Mathfag here that has slaved away as a menial data coordinator for more than 3 years. All of a sudden my company put out a burst of new jobs, including database dev, statistical programmer, and applied statistician. I'm quite skilled at programming and statistics, so I think I will excel at any of them. Unfortunately none of the salaries are listed for any of them. I think I would enjoy the work of each equally, so I suppose it comes down to money, demand, transferable skills, and which I'm most likely to get. Any advice?

>>16430506
Try to talk to someone with some info and make a choice. Arrange a meeting and get the deets.

Are the job offers getting more and more generic or what?
shit how the hell should i answer to describe what i did in the past compared with the job offer if i have no fucking idea on what you actually do other than using catia and manufacturing with no further descriptions
i hate hr

>>16430608
>describe what i did in the past compared with the job offer
That sounds like a new trend I was not previously aware of.

I became a second grade test engineer after my physics PhD

>>16430647
maybe is a thing in spain, and not common outside

>>16430608
Have you been applying to junior level roles? Also, what industry?

>>16430175
I live where there are jobs.
Would much rather live up a mountain as a quasi-hermit, descending into the valley once a month to buy necessities. I've priced it out, it would be much cheaper than my current life, I can even afford a reasonable farm or village house up there.
The problem, as it always has been, is employment. Even as a glaciologist, no institution will employ me to live in cheap places. I still have to commute to work in a shitty city.

>>16430704
i am trying to work in the space sector, dont care much where, and that is what i am the most qualified, but i also apply to everything close to my family village. And yeah supposedly is junior, or even entry level jobs. But fuckers still ask for years of experience always. I know they end hiring people that doesnt fulfill the experience requirements, but still, i have no fucking idea what to say in those questions

>>16430721
>junior, or even entry level jobs.
It's the norm for junior level roles everywhere around the world. The reason I've been fed from the recruiters is that they do not want to dissuade people from applying but in truth they filter out most applicants who cold apply using ATS.

Networking is king. Companies have a budget for training fresh graduate hires so the people they pick are often people they click with or people who was referred by their friends/family. I've lost count of the number of times I've been shot down for trivial reason such as my body language or my voice despite ticking all the boxes and then some.

>>16423846
>Honestly this is partially one reason for the tech crisis right now and I have no conceivable answer as to why this hasn't been uncovered or blown up by now. Maybe most of the Indians that go down this path just have the intellect to grasp these tech jobs before their cover blows up.

Because the people who hire these indians are not engineers themselves. They are liberal arts people with a finance or sales background. To them, an engineer is an engineer because he has a paper that says engineer, and these pajeets are attractive because they offer themselves for less than american engineers, so only a moron would not hire pajeets. Pajeets are also super servile which speaks to the egos of these people. Having finance or sales people leading a technological company is a recipe for disaster. But it is also the norm today.

>>16430710
Get into opera or theatre you cultureless wretch.

>>16430752
>Companies have a budget for training fresh graduate hires
not in spain usually. there is no training unless you are in a big company
yeah, ill probably try nepotism soonish, just enough to make more experience

Currently doing a masters in Computational Engineering (numerical methods, data science, machine learning courses etc..) and I have absolutely no idea what field to "specialize" in. Medicine, geology, space, finance, climate research all seem like interesting, viable options and I feel like I should take courses in at least one domain instead of only generic courses. My bachelors is in robotics, so maybe even something like computer vision in robotics could be interesting.
It's also about the question of money vs passion. Going into finance would probably give me a lot more possibilities and money than doing something in medicine for example. However, medicine is far more interesting I think?
I always thought research seemed interesting but I've heard too many horror stories and I'm too stupid to make it anyway.
What fields are expected to "boom" in the future?

tl;dr money vs "passion" (I will have a livable wage anyway)?

>>16429668
>astrophysics professor
>$70,000/yr
truck drivers make more than that to start

I’ve always thought of work as a means to a life outside of work. I chose the power EE route. Currently working at a utility consultant for over a year now. Mostly interconnection studies for distributed generation and occasional load studies. It’s stupidly repetitive (verify information, set up model, remediate voltage, thermal, protection issues, send report). But, I’m making $80k (principals make ~$160k) and it’s not very stressful. I’m okay doing this bullshit long term as long as the salary allows me to pay my bills, save up for a good retirement, fund a hobby and give me a few vacations a year. Maybe I just lack ambition?

>>16421385
Yeah man go back for a chem degree I'm sure that'll get you a job. Trust the plan unc!

lol just lol

>>16430409
>Such as being a professor at UCLA?
Is this supposed to be impressive?
The market evidently didn't think so.

>>16430760
It goes deeper than that, there is also an ideology at the core of all this where they believe they are doing some kind of moral service by actively making society less white so that a populist leader can never rise up and put the jews' shoes in a big pile ever again. It's more than just an economic drive that is causing this to happen, there is a rooted ideological component to it as well.
A healthy society would summarily execute people for mass importing indians. It's hard to think of something more viciously treacherous and evil, yet they unironically believe they are agents of moral good.

>>16430752
Has the hiring process always been so... feminine? Applying for jobs really does feel like using a dating app. 80% of the time it's radio silence, and the remaining I'm dropped for seemingly arbitrary or retarded reasons

>>16431271
I'm also in power EE. Also making $80k. This field is very two-tiered. The lower level compensation is mediocre while the principals make very good money.

>>16431344
No. A degree used to mean something. Experience used to mean something. Certifications used to mean something. Now all of those have been rigged and in a low trust environment where you can't trust any qualifications, something has to fill the void, which in the case of tech hiring has become a mixture of hazing and astrology.
The candidate pool is 95% shit and no one understands how to find the 5% of good candidates buried in all the shit. For those who are the 5%, it's incredibly frustrating to see open positions for which they're very qualified to fill but can't access because those in charge of the hiring pipeline have no idea what to look for so they come up with all kinds of arbitrary criteria to filter candidates out. These filters are ill suited to their purpose and are the hiring equivalent of a woman getting "the ick" from a date. But if you're the woman/HR/recruiter, you see it as a way of whittling down the candidate pool, be it for a job or a relationship, which appears to be a positive even if it ends up rejecting most or all of the 5% who are a good match.

>>16431182
Medicine has the advantage of always being in demand. If you also happen to find it interesting, it's probably a good, solid path for you. Keep in mind that compensation has a point of diminishing returns. About a decade ago in the US, for the average person it was $70,000. Obviously that would be higher now, and varies by cost of living in an area, but the core reality is still the same that once you pass a certain income, increases in happiness and life satisfaction will mostly come from things other than more money.

>>16430175
>Why do retards insist on living where they can't afford to live?
Employers insist that you go into their office to work. Employees don't get to choose anything.

>>16431396
No one is making that dumb faggot work in LA. He got memed by the idea of being le high status big brained UCLA professor and it has clouded his mind into making irrational decisions and voluntarily subjecting himself to conditions that are impoverishing him.
Slavery was a choice.
I remember how much this made the normalfags seethe. But every day that I read your posts I'm reminded of just how accurate it is.

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>>16431396
The median software developer salary for the Montgomery-Selma, Alabama area is over $150k. Cost of living there is incredibly low. Now move the goalposts by listing a bunch of reasons unrelated to compensation for why you wouldn't live there. The truth is there are employers everywhere. Fags like you make up stories about jobs only existing in high cost coastal cities because that's where your tv shows and movies have told you is where you must want to live.

>>16424058
F1 cars and fluid dynamics are related.

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>>16431405
I'm not defending the guy for living in LA, but the general idea that you can just choose to work anywhere you want is not true for large parts of the population, even if you restrict to stem graduates. Many have trouble finding a single job after hundreds of job applications.

>>16431414
So what's your solution, for everyone to go into software engineering and move to Alabama? You know that simple economics would lead to a simultaneous decrease in wages and a rise in housing price? This has already been happening.

>>16431380
I have seen the graph you are talking about, and I guess there is some truth to that. I'm not obsessed with money by any means, and I come from a low income household so I'm used to not having the newest things or going on vacation every year - and I'm grateful for it.
At the same time, I'm always fluctuating between what I find interesting and I'm afraid to dedicate myself to something I end up not enjoying as much in the future. I like to keep as many doors open as possible, but I realize I have to close some doors to get anywhere in life.

I'm a scandi so I will never get rich (or poor) the same way I could in the US anyway. So, I guess following whatever brings me joy (if I can figure it out) is the way to go. Just with my bachelors I will make more money than the average person in my country. The masters will bump that up even more independent of what industry I end up in.
I worked in the defence industry for 1 year and I was absolutely miserable, so I know how it feels to wake up and dread going to work. I probably can't put a value on happiness, can I.

>>16431427
There are several implicit ideas being conveyed in that story which unravel when examined. The idea behind the story is that we are supposed to be shocked and appalled that such a high status big-brain like "UCLA astrophysics professor" is in poverty.
However, if this is the best he can get then maybe his position isn't as powerful and high status as everyone assumed it was. Maybe he should get a part-time gig washing dishes at the local cantina, or is that beneath his station in life? Maybe he should go teach astrophysics in Oklahoma to the flyover deplorables. There are lots of options in life but many of them would interrupt his live-action roleplay of being a big shot in LA.

>>16431303
this reaction says more about you than me lmao

>>16431449
Hate on him however you want, but I'm only shocked and appalled at how LA hasn't collapsed into a city wide favela if people getting paid less than software engineers can't afford to live there.

>>16422655
i mean some of the worst parts of getting old are impossible to just "hard work" your way through
>the absolute mountain of age related disease and general decay
>loved ones dying off one by one
even if we limit it to just these two you can understand why it sucks

>>16420159
Jeets fake this shit all the time. Im a UK doc and one of our IMTs is indian, he openly talks about how the UK just accepts any old shit as a cert or qualification. They just get some family friend consultant in baghadadagupta to say they did all this work they never did, has all these achievements they don't have and then it becomes real to the NHS. Then if they're shit and get struck off the bma comes in to say doing so is racist and we need fewer cases against brown doctors.

>>16431405
Because professorship positions are notoriously abundant and grow on trees

>>16431498
In that case, it appears the timeline of his errors persists more distantly into the past than merely his choosing to live in LA.

>>16431509
But who will teach the students if the professors can't afford to live in the area by the university

>>16429408
If you really earned more in the UK, your old salary truly had to be the pits. And anywhere else would be an improvement. Just avoid
France: science was sacrifised for immigration
Germany: latest budget slaughtered science funding
Norway: pay good but science bad
Sweden: approaching failed state status
Finland: science good but things can be depressive
Club Med countries: just no

God I wish I were industrious. Imagine waking up, doing my readings and even writing something. Haha...
How do you guys do it, pls hwlp

>take job tangential to career goals
>work there for 2 years to hop to job more related to career goals
>repeat for like 5-6 years until you get to the end state
it's all so tiresome

>suddenly start blasting the Kenan & Kel theme in the middle of the meeting.

>>16430175
he already got a phd in astrophysics, he's already made the choice to not prioritize money but you can both make a sacrifice and complain about it
>>16427022
>equally good compensation
quants are making 7 figures in their 20s, where in tech outside of hitting the startup jackpot is paying as well as that?
>>16431449
your obsession with power and status seems like projection
>>16431461
the decay is only just starting. even if the tech bubble collapses and all the software engineers lose their jobs, it'll still take a few months for them to leave the city and those neighborhoods to implode
it takes time for this shit to build up
i live in the NYC area and nearly everyone with the resources to do so are moving upstate or Connecticut en masse
if i still want to stay in the area i'm considering fucking off to new jersey. long island seems nice as well, but it's for actual richfags and i'd have to drive through NYC itself in order to do anything

>>16431332
>Is this supposed to be impressive?
Yes. Tenure is hard to get and UCLA is a reputable university.
>The market evidently didn't think so.
Not the market, his employer thought so and he accepted it for a while. Now he cannot. It is reasonable to expect a salary that is sufficient for a living within commuting distance. I cannot afford to live where I work and have to accept about 4 hours commuting every day.

>>16431773
>I cannot afford to live where I work and have to accept about 4 hours commuting every day.
you really have to consider why you're working somewhere if you're subjecting yourself to that humiliation ritual
the only people i know who do that are early career and are going through a hazing ritual, or oldfags who are cucked by their wives insisting they keep the house

>>16431725
There's a big difference between "not prioritizing money" and "being homeless." Idiot.
>>16431773
Looks like impressiveness didn't translate to anything that actually resulted in a decent life. Which is the essence of why he is retarded.
There's no reason why he must live in one of the most expensive areas of the world other than he craves status. It's logically the only reason.
If he is such a tremendous candidate like you are persuading us to think he is, then he could easily go teach at a state school in flyover land. The hicks there should be absolutely blown away by his big-shot UCLA credentials and roll out the red carpet for him.

>>16431369
It isn't what I wanted to hear but thank you for the explanation. It does make sense

>>16431782
A colleague lives at walking distrance from the office and spends 70 percent of his salary on paying his cost of living. Meanwhile, I live in the countryside with clean air, a detached house with an orchard.

>>16431812
>If he is such a tremendous candidate like you are persuading us to think he is,
Well, he can't be bad to get that position. I never got tenure.
>then he could easily go teach at a state school in flyover land.
Probably true. And if he cannot get a raise he should leave.

>>16431812
UCLA might've been the only place with an opening suitable for his specialty. Professorships are scarce. A genuine world class university not compensating professors sufficiently to afford housing in the area is not a failure on the part of the professors. UCLA did not keep track of the cost of living and did not adjust it's pay according to its expectations.

>>16431829
but what do you do for fast food?

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>tfw just wanted to be a 30 yr old chemistry major and even the badfrens on 4chuds zozzle at me

>>16431812
>McKeown says his rent was $2,500 a month. According to RentCafe, the average rent is $3,700 in Westwood.
if he can't make a 2500 rent on 70k that's his fault
>other than he craves status. It's logically the only reason.
humans aren't logical beings. if we were, nobody would do any low paying job at all

>>16431344
Depends on the country. In Switzerland its alright so far so long as your school is reputable and you have a Master's.
In Japan its pretty much open bar, the youth isnt doing science they just treat university as a big 4 year vacations and only the ToDai kids are worth their salt, so companies have a very hard time hiring, but theyre also adamant on not hiring non japanese speakers even though engineering has become an mainly english led discipline especially in tech.
So there is thus huge hiring gap right now if youre good at your job and bothered getting N2, thats what I did. Got first job in Switzerland then moved to Japan, I can move back if I feel like it, its pretty easy to find a good paying job with high quality of worl life balance. Obviously Switzerland is a boring country and salaries can never match American ones however so heres that.

>>16429668
Thats what happens when you refuse to live anywhere outside LA, SF, Austin and NYC.

>>16429408
Leaves North America to Europe to get higher pay
While literally of the brightest euro kids are so desperate to leave that they massively apply to Canadian roles and come up with tricks to get their vaporware startups funded by American VCs and funnel that into an O-1 visa application?????!!! Are you out of your mind?

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>>16431962
to prepare myself for being le based 30 YR OLD CHEMIST im working thru CHEMISTRY CONCEPTS AND PROBLEMS, A SELF TEACHING GUIDE

>>16420162
Based

>>16431962
I'm 35 and am trying to find fucking something to do with my life.
At least we're in the shit together.

>>16431725
>quants make le 7 figures
You people have no clue what you’re on about. Some will make millions early yes but they’re rare. The pay is vastly overrated by people who clearly never worked at a prop shop. Making millions a year you will have to be a quite experienced trader. More like $400k is reasonable after a few years at most places.
As for tech that pays better, places like Nvidia will give you compensation which is equally good or better on average for example, and you will be working on more interesting and beneficial things anyway.

>>16420162
its not colonization its replacement. i don't think they would be capable of colonization

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>>16432026
youre a good fren, WAGMI. i have 6 figures saved so i can dedicate myself to it fully. what are you leaning towards fren? any ideas?

>>16432034
No idea. It's almost impossible for me to tell which fields are going to be fucked up in the future.
Coding seemed safe, then everyone decided to learn to fucking code, so it's not any more.
I'm currently looking into the paygrade for being a lab tech.

>>16432036
do you have a degree? how does babby /into/ lab tech?

>>16432052
Nah, I'm a dropout. The process is pretty simple though, you take two to four years in college focusing on chemistry, with a side of whatever you plan on lab... technicianing. It's a good bet to pick something medical. Working with blood, checking piss tests, etcetera. At least, assuming AIs don't learn to do that.

>>16431369
>see it as a way of whittling down the candidate pool, be it for a job or a relationship, which appears to be a positive even if it ends up rejecting most or all of the 5% who are a good match.
They are not even looking for a "good" candidate. Most of the time they settle for someone who is "good enough" and that often boils down to they way they carry themselves in a conversation (interview) and how well they can get along (banter) with the hiring team. It all boils down being personable. Like I said, most people expect nothing from fresh hires. You are expected to be a blank state. It is still a win from a HR perspective if some desperate unicorn applied and managed to go through the screening process. The people who loses are the 95% who have to wade through 5+ rounds of technical + behavioral + IQ test + panel interview + case studies + hackathon challenge.

>>16431602
>How do you guys do it
Ever wonder why your colleagues have permanent eye bags and always look like their soul is ready to leave their body?
>>16431610
>work there for 2 years to hop to job more related to career goals
How do you job hop? Do you get in through referral?

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>>16432068
interesting..can you get that at community college?

>>16432082
>How do you job hop? Do you get in through referral?
i've been lucky and able to get interviews through recruiters or cold applying so far, since the move wasn't too far off my existing background.
i'm stuck since i'm trying to make a jump across skillsets, and i think i'm gonna need a referral for that which i've been networking towards, and honestly i'm expecting to take a pay cut and downlevel for it

>>16431832
>i'm so specialized i can only work at literally 1 place
You're just reinforcing the argument that the guy is a complete moron

>>16431993
Japan doesn't need to be on the cutting-edge of science and engineering, they should accept their place as a lesser power and be 1 or 2 generations behind the cutting edge. There's nothing wrong with using hand-me-down technology that is 15 years old and you can still have a nice society and quality of life. It's certainly preferable to being flooded with jeet and gaijin sex pests.

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>>16427698
>RF engie
maybe I'll get more attention if I say EE, specializing in microwave and radar

>>16430721
>I know they end hiring people that doesn't fulfill the experience requirements, but still, i have no fucking idea what to say in those questions
frankly ime they just never ask. They only care if you have the skills to do the job or the ability to grow into it (if they're a good company), which will become apparent during the interview.

>tfw there's no book nor course that teaches me how to be good at my job and navigate the corpo world
Owari da, I'll be fuckin homeless because no one wants to hire a retard

>>16432158
You mean there's no textbooks. There are plenty of books about business operations, there's even a lot of youtube videos where experienced workers of many industries share their advise. You should look around if you care about improving on that front.

>>16432123
I guess it's fine for world class employers to ignore their employees' and, by extension, customers' well being. Who needs quality people or retention, right?

>>16432128
Shut up retard, you can and should aspire to both.

>>16432033
Even better for Indian even worse for you… lol

>>16432194
I love when libtards make this "but it's for the good of society!!" appeal, as if they haven't already completely destroyed that.

>>16420159
How should I study for the GRE General test if I want to get a score above 320?

>>16432032
>The pay is vastly overrated by people who clearly never worked at a prop shop. Making millions a year you will have to be a quite experienced trader.
it's exaggerated since the main group of people talking about quant pay are young tech workers who personally know the exceptions and are seething that their friend just took a 400k new grad offer
the assumption is you wouldn't ever take a job at an hft unless it was the best paying offer you got by a large margin.
>Nvidia will give you compensation which is equally good or better on average for example,
that's entirely due to stock appreciation
>and you will be working on more interesting and beneficial things anyway.
this is true for the most part but also a non-issue for most tech employees
>>16432312
what are you schizoposting about now

Trying to make a career in stem has seriously reduced my esteem for it. So fuck rocket boosters and vaccines and networked computers and the motor car and all plastics and fertiliser and injection moulding and electron microscopes and neural networks and singular value decompositions and the website 4chan dot org

My supervisor needs a lesson in humility. So do some of the other people in my lab.

I'm going to give it to them.

>>16431948
>but what do you do for fast food?
The fast food I eat are fruits from my orchard. Just the other day I had some grapes. Life in the big smoke is not all it is cracked up to be.

>>16432546
Wow that's amazing, tell us some more.

>>16431993
>In Japan its pretty much open bar, the youth isnt doing science
What? What do they do instead?
>they just treat university as a big 4 year vacations and only the ToDai kids are worth their salt,
Brutal
> so companies have a very hard time hiring,
When I worked in Tsukuba, I got the impression that also Tsukubadai was good for getting a job.
>but theyre also adamant on not hiring non japanese speakers even though engineering has become an mainly english led discipline especially in tech.
Not even conditional on passing the level 5 and 4 of the proficiency test within 3 years?
>So there is thus huge hiring gap right now if youre good at your job and bothered getting N2, thats what I did.
N2, is that the proficiency exam?
>Got first job in Switzerland then moved to Japan, I can move back if I feel like it, its pretty easy to find a good paying job with high quality of worl life balance. Obviously Switzerland is a boring country and salaries can never match American ones however so heres that.
What are salary levels and cost of living when you compare the two?

>>16432036
Go EE power (you’re welcome :) )

>>16432086
oftentimes?
Most of it at least. Depends on the college's range of classes.

I'm beginning to feel extremely resentful towards my supervisor

>>16432555
Tsukuba is pretty good but is too young and has zero international recognition.
>not even conditional on passing the level 5 and 4 of the proficiency test within 3 years?
They really dont give a shit, if they believe that youll learn japanese eventually, theyll let you in as an english only regardless, otherwise, you have to be fluent.
>N2, is that the proficiency exam?
Yes
>What are salary levels and cost of living when you compare the two?
On the higher end, was proposed a 20M¥ salary at an american owned startup, but product was not great and market outlook felt bad to me, didnt want to fuck up my career for 1-2 years of good money. With that much money, you live like a fucking king, even the most money hungry women here dpnt even dream of having a boyfriend that earns that much.
Im currently paid 8M¥ and I am wayy above the median salary for my age bracket, people treat me like Im rich and have it all figured out. For US standards that can be low though.

Switzerland on the other hand pays similarly to the US, but the cost of living is ridiculous. In particular, I found swiss salary somewhat also offset the incredibly dull and boring life there. Sure you earn a lot, but you have nothing to do on your weekends and everything is closed by 6-7pm. People are also very cold, serious and hard to make friends with. Switzerland has a high quality service but that comes at a great price. For similar spending, my life would be 10x greater in the US, id have much more things to do, many more people to meet, overall days would be less dull and boring.

>>16420159
how do you find stem jobs that aren't for university/research but industry projects? I am having a real hard time finding anything viable here in Germany most often they require a phd I don't want to get that as well. I remember there used to be international conferences before the lockdown stuff nowadays they all have stopped.

>>16432983
>"works in Japan"
>zero evidence of any self-awareness at all
>unironically trots out the "hustle and bustle" meme
Please stop posting. Or at least do it on reddit where this tripe belongs.

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>when you find out your long-time friend applied for all the same postings you did

What should I work in with my math degree? I'm a CS double major but I hate the culture so I'm leaning towards working in something math heavy and keeping computers as a hobby. I also want to contribute to political action, although I have no clue how to use my math skills with this.

>>16433030
vote AfD

>>16433078
Polling/data work for campaigns

>>16433093
My views seem to be only represented in Europe

>>16432549
Rent free.

>>16432229
>Even better for Indian
Why do they keep leaving India then? Is there something wrong with living around such a high concentration of Indians?

>>16421048
You will need to look up books about engines from your college's database. But to get the background knowledge you will need to read Yunus's Thermo book (to understand combustion) then Heat transfer (to know how much coolant you need) and Shigley's Mechanical Design (to design shafts). Actually, you will actually just need to study like a normal ME major to actually understand a book about engines lol. It doesn't hurt to get some inspiration, if I were a freshman again I would spend my very very very very limited free time reading the database.
>t. senior in ME

>>16420524
Applied physics at my uni is pretty much just an expedited way to tack some physics courses onto an engineering degree

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>>16433160
Faustian spirit of exploration

>>16433355
saaaar bobs n vagene saar you are dhalit i am brahim poop GOD, so rich i have a toilet saar

>>16433158
Yeah your fruity story's are so riveting I can't stop thinking about you and fruit

>>16432549
Give me a few days and I'll take a picture. The grapes are almost ripe now.

>>16433160
you think we are friends?
Britishers looted India for centuries, now it is 100% justified for Indians to do the same for them, your PM was Indian, your CEOs are Indian, your colonies are becoming Indian... you can cry that "it's not fair..." but this is karma, it is not needed for you to like it
Doesn't matter anyway... you can disagree with it but it's happening and you can only watch it

>>16433680
Your English is to coherent to be convincing

>>16433680
>jews loot india
>its da BRITISHERRRRS
kek @ rapejeet. poo ass lookin mf ong

>>16433680
What did they loot? Metals, fuel, minerals and other things your people did not have the means of extracting, identifying, processing or utilizing in the slightest? You were given the modern world, and this is your gratitude? Should have just tossed all your lot in the ganjies 200 years ago. Would certainly smell a lot better now

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>>16430760
>Having finance or sales people leading a technological company is a recipe for disaster. But it is also the norm today.

>>16423846
white executives love to virtue signal, so they will hire pajeets. One case nobody could understand a word the guy ever said due to his heavy accent, i know i couldn't. He was most highly paid employee too

>>16429817
nope, most of india is a shithole with a very few developed areas.

>>16420162
pretty bad, honestly :-(

>>16433680
Third-worlders can only ever view the world and history through the lens of their inferiority complex. Servile, and pathetic.

Has anyone ever successfully gotten an internship? I must be 0 for ~100 applications at this point.

>>16434160
He’s right though, the way things are going the first world won’t exist at all. Currently the only thing whites are doing is making jokes and saying it’s ironic or hypocritical but that isn’t going to stop your country becoming majority Indian or Arab in a few decades.

>>16420162
>indian executives are public facing puppets for the real anglo owners
history repeats itself

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>>16434212
EE here, ive applied to like 30-40 so far (weak, i know) and i havent even gotten a phone screen. my resume last year was way shittier and i still managed to get multiple interviews once i reached this point in the semester, so i think i might actually be fucked this time around

>>16434293
Saṃsāra is undefeated.

>>16420162
>colonization is going to another country and working for low wages
seems more like slavery but they are literally slave caste in their shithole country so idk

>>16434548
cool story but you won't even exist at all in the future

>>16434570
Neither will you. Death comes for us all.

>>16434570
Once the last white man dies the world will stop existing as there won't be a consciousness to observe it.

>>16434293
It already isn’t “our country”
All white countries only exist to serve the jews so who cares if they get flooded with jeets
Whites have no country they are all essentially stateless peoples with zero sovereignty or political representation

>>16433680
Revenge think is American think.
No, revenge is not a good way, especially after what the Brits have brought to India.

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South India has the living standards of the european balkans who are 100% white people with no excuses like brown skin.
South India is a great country, I'd move there for jobs

Thoughts on getting a master's in business? It seems like the majority of management in my company has a bachelor's in engineering and a master's in business. I'm definitely going to get a master's since the company will pay for it, but don't know in what yet.

How tf do other high schoolers get engineering internships? Is it just connections?

>>16434591
>>16434594
>>16434690
kek the whites have already given up pretending it isn't gonna happen

>incoherent shitskin screeching
you will never be white rapejeet. you will always be an untouchable hindu raperat

>>16435494
we only exist as the necessary substrate on which the remaining 90% of humanity builds itself up, please do not waste our sacrifice

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>>16435494
No one is bothered by your generic racebaiting

>>16435488
You could just try incessantly emailing companies you want to work for. The trick to getting what you want in life is being shamelessly annoying visible unfortunately. Dignity be damned.

>>16420654
this desu. The only people that know of the distinction are racists like me and Indians (also racists)

Unexpected advice:
>Why the Reliable Office Workhorse Rarely Gets Ahead
https://archive.is/OkddJ
>You work so hard. Why aren’t you getting ahead?
Expectations set in quickly.

>>16434415
>anglo
*jewish
>>16420162
you will never be a human being, not really

>day 4 of employment
Getting a math phd was a huge mistake

>>16434293
>The first world won't exist at all
>China, Japan, Taipei

>>16436656
>day 4
Did you reset the clock?
And did you apply to the EPO?

>>16436696
Spoken like someone who's entire idea of Asia comes from anime.

>>16436699
This is the kind of efficiency and speed India provides. Whites just can't compete.

>>16436656
>>16436753
Seems like math phd anon finally got a job

I've been waiting for a PhD for a year, I missed out on extremely profitable job hops because of this.

When I graduated in 2022, not only was I getting dozens of offers, they were coming with 5 figure sign-on bonuses. Now with 2 years of quality experience with Fortune 500 companies, I can't even get an interview.

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>>16433923
>What did they loot?
Much worse. Their holiest of holy, cow poop

>>16434430
Same I’ve put in somewhere around 100 in the last month and nothing. I think I’m fucked, they said EE would have ducking by jobs

>>16436696
you're right, the white world won't exist

>>16437057
Yeah, same here. Im also retarded and quit my unbelievably lucrative job to do a PhD and now I'm up shit creek.

Friday means applying for internships day. What will happen next a hackerrank that includes mandatory c++ questions despite not mentioning thats required? A three month waiting period to tell me I'm not getting it? Being denied despite knowing I passed all the questions on the math test because I cheated (fuck em it's war and I don't owe them anything)?

It's a sign of my unbelievable grace and magnanimity that I haven't made society feel my rage. God, if he exists, owes me a big apology for the torment he's put me through. A man shouldn't be made to suffer in all seasons of his life.

>>16437517
Also because I'm a trick ass mark my supervisor gave me a shit research project while all my contemporaries projects have been getting them into good conferences.

All this because I had the temerity to take on a research project that others tried and failed at. No one cares, that's just life in this horrible Mad Deadly Gangster Effective Altruist Computer God field I joined.

>>16435460
>master's in business
Pointless unless you're a high-EQ, high-charisma Brahmin/Cohen/GigaCHAD. I had several professors in college who said they tried going the MBA route but just went back to academia/industry because no employer was interested in an overly intellectual/technical person with no social skills for a managerial position.

>>16422938
>>16422954
I majored in Automation Engineering, not Mechanical Engineering, but holy fuck I really do relate to this stack of books. I even remember using books by those same authors (Groover, Çengel, Budynas & Nisbett). I'd just replace Thermo/Heat Transfer with some books on Controls and Instrumentation for my own major because that was a big part of what I studied.
I feel like I'm looking at a long-lost brother from another mother here.

can i post

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sorry

How to write a thesis? I picked a subject I know almost nothing about, and the more I read, the less I know. I've wasted like 2 weeks just thinking how to start it.

>>16437621
Buy a subscription to claude.

>>16437624
Why Claude? Is it better thant ChatGPT?

Well guys, I know I've been talking about it a lot, but I couldn't get an internship so I joined Hamas. And it looks like there's going to be some opportunity for progression...

>>16437627
In my experience yes. Its very useful for throwing research papers at it and asking questions to clarify my understanding, I've also used it to help rewrite my codebases (its pretty good at this if you need to build on standardish stuff), or write me a latex presentation in a pinch.

>>16437630
I hear they have many leadership positions that suddenly opened up

>>16437723
They are not much into WFH from what I hear.

>>16437503
Riveting analysis.

>>16437525
>because no employer was interested in an overly intellectual/technical person with no social skills for a managerial position
That is rather hilarious when you realise that the middle management layer is full of psychopaths.
I once worked in a company where this happened, and top management realised this way too late. So hands off stupidity lasting years meant they had to get rid of the garbage and make sure none of them ever advanced to the C-suite.

retard here
not PhD or STEM related but I'm 18 and trying to get a job
I've applied to many listings off of indeed, only a couple give back responses, apparently this is normal
I haven't got a single fucking interview though, every employer that goes through my cover letter and resume just goes "lol denied" even if I have some relevant experience or its a position that anyone can fill with a bit of training.

Only thing I don't have that I should have is a drivers license, but that shit is useless without a car to use. It also limits the commute ability to any job that I have, even though I'm willing to spend a hour or more travelling by public transit to some shitty dishwasher job just to have ANY income and save some money for drivers ed (which is 600$ for 10hrs) and a car in the future.
>durr drive your parents car
on lease, is expensive, you know what the answer is
>did you try getting it
9 times, shitty examiners from the government 8/9 times, only one time did the examiner (who was male) actually sympathize with how shitty doing a road test is, only failed it because I missed a yield sign behind a bush at a blind intersection. The other times are just bitter retarded post-wall women or women who are otherwise angry and want you to fail.
>durr you can't drive lol retarded lol
yeah cherrypick the example of a person with down syndrome getting thousands if not tens to hundreds of thousands of personal living aids and tailored driving education.

>>16438413
go to college/uni retard

>>16438415
>get a student loan and go to debt because you don't have any employment
sounds like a great plan retard, what happens if I leave college/uni and get no job?
>muh no interest
debt is debt retard and I'd rather not be saddled with debt.

>>16438425
see: >>16438413
you are 18 and dont understand how retarded you sound, and how banal your worries.
Go study some stem field you are interested in and opportunities will naturally arise and you should take them

>>16438425
>what happens if I leave college/uni and get no job?
skill issue. It's a lot easier to get a job out of uni.
>debt is debt retard and I'd rather not be saddled with debt.
retard bro having debt and high income is better than not having debt but flipping burgers. If you insist upon your retard ways, go join the army, you'll fit right in.

>>16438428
>dood go study some stem field
what part of "NOT PHD OR STEM RELATED" do you understand? I'm not even looking for a "le career", just a basic fucking job so I can get some income and save up some money.
>opportunities will naturally arise
Yeah and niggers will tongue my anus for free, do you realize how retarded you sound?

>>16438437
It may or may not go down as I put, it depends what my actual thought is.

>>16438442
I'm sorting entry event in my mind but it's either hit or miss depending on the predicted rota so it may not happen. Seemed good but my mind knows what's perfect.

>>16438437
hey buddy, this is the
STEM
CAREER
GENERAL
if you're just going to whine about not getting a job at mcdonalds, go do so elsewhere

>>16438448
>nooo you can't just ask questions about employment in the only general that happens to have productive discussion!! YOU need to make a thread on /adv/ and get shit answers!

you're the same tards to whine about people on welfare, when employers can't even be assed to give someone with no experience some basic training and a job.

>>16438448
They look similar, mines more rugged and chapped

>>16438448
He made a good social life from shit childhood links. Timeless Beauty tattoo.

Should I do a PhD after 2-3 years as a test engineer (I'm not actually an IT educated person, I'm a chemist)

>>16438425
Being saddled with debt and becoming a slave to jewish financiers is part of being an adult. Grow up and touch grass.

>>16438501
>dude just go to university and get bankrupt because you can't find a job and have 30k in student loans and living expenses to pay off with 5% yearly interest

inb4 "muh skill issue" because employers are obligated to give you a job since you have a shiny white piece of paper
retard.

>>16420162
I mite piss n cum u want sum fagboy

>>16438505
This is a reddit general, we "normalize the normal" here. It doesn't matter whether something is good or not. All that matters is fitting in.

I'm not just talking knowledge. I'm talking apt. I am ready to perform 100% successful as anything to the master level with my mind. All I'm saying is I'm not sure this is to be given willy nilly. This is also part of the reason this level takes so much pain, fear and TOLL to achieve.

>>16438525
The only thing that will be taking a toll is Western toilets when your jeet ass starts curry shitting everywhere.

>>16421177
>What math do the Khazarian occultists use to make their sweet sweet shekels?
Theres no math, only mafia tactics. I'll summarize it as this: Jews and and hindustanis get wealthy by siphoning wealth from surrounding populations. Hindustanis do this in the private sector, jews also but moreso in government, where they will grant themselves business permits and write laws in their favor. Not to mention throw every court case in their favor.
Theres nothing else, its just a wealth transfer. This is why when hindustanis are in Bharat they are poor af, and while Israel isnt poor its still does the same trick of siphoning wealth, to the point of 70 billion years in the last year alone.
When jews are truly isolated they create shtetls.

Swede here, do I move to America for jobs?

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>>16438853
staying in your welfare country would be a better choice, sorry.
just take all the gibs you can get and keep taking gibs, fuck sweden for being a welfare state.

>>16438466
>nooo you can't just ask questions about employment
What questions faggot? You clearly have no idea how the world works. You'll never find a job by being a hostile retard and I'm starting to think the only reason you're not joining the army is because you couldn't pass their IQ tests.
>you're the same tards to whine about people on welfare
I sincerely pray my tax money never has to be used to sustain genetic dead ends like you

>>16438853
If you can, you should in my opinion. The pay and opportunities are just way better. But the visa stuff might not be trivial, you're not the only person who'd want to work in the US.

Although it depends on what stage of you're life you're in and what you want moving forward. The thing about the US is that employees are less protected than in the communist hellstate nordics, and if you are unemployed with no money you are fucked. It's unlikely that with nordic salaries you'd have built savings that will last any time in a big US city (where the jobs are). But you'll always have the option of just going back home to suckle on the welfare teat if things go bad rather than living as a hobo in NYC.

If you're a healthy adult with no dependents it's a no-brainer. If you're planning to have kids imminently it might be a different equation. I regret coming back from the US.

>>16439450
>communist hellstate nordics
A lot is changing these days
Sweden: close to failed state status has now realised it will take 10 years of hard work to root out the gangs. With 200 bomps per years, the average Swede got sick and tired. Still has very good universities and research labs.
Denmark: started border control against Sweden and their gangs. They realised where this is heading. Still has many good research labs.
Norway: socialists still deny Sweden has problems, continues to import problems. voters got sick and tired and will eject the Labour party, which in turn doubled down on importing voters and filling government positions with inept socialists. Universities are sliding down the ranking lists but remain popular with Iranian PhD applicants. Labs are good at self pronotion, but generally Norway has been described earlier in these threads as the place where science goes to die.

I feel like I'm incapable of pursuing higher education like masters or phd because I honestly suck at writing

>>16439597
Blow me fagface

>>16439599
Rude

>>16439597
Just take a class in academic writing and let them teach you.

>>16438413
Dont you Americans have cheap/free college education at Community Colleges? Just get a degree online for cheap. Meanwhile, make your parents or family teach you how to drive.

>>16438487
Dont quit a job for a PhD, retard.

>>16439759
Yeah it's called McDonald's, they learn what every American learns. Forced obesity and slave mentality

>>16439762
Want a pastie faggot? Stfu American fatty

>>16439759
It varies by state but in general community college is relatively inexpensive. Technical colleges often overlap with community colleges and also tend to be relatively inexpensive. In Georgia if you can maintain a 'C' or above average, tech school is 50% off and if you're enrolled in a program that's been identified as "in demand", it's free as long as you maintain the 'C' or above average.
But these schools tend not to have any of the lifestyle benefits that a young, horny student in their late teens/early 20s craves, so they're willing to go deep into debt at have access to that party scene. Community colleges generally only offer two year "associate" degrees, so for a bachelor or above, you need to transfer to one of those larger, traditional type schools, but you cut the cost nearly in half if you can live at home and take community college classes, especially in states where the course credits between the systems are aligned for easy transfer.

>>16439789
>lifestyle benefits
What do you mean?

I've got a couple internship offers, and I'm really having a hard time picking which to go with. So far, the offers I have are for hardware reverse engineering and for RFSoC+GPU RF signal processing work. Neither of these line up directly with my field, as my previous research has been mobile computing, but both could be potentially useful. My plan is to apply for grad programs next year, so I'm trying to pick whichever would help me gain admission into a top EE program. In terms of potential skills and the type of work, which would you guys suggest going with? For more context, the reverse engineering gig is at a higher clearance, and both positions pay the same.

>>16440089
>I've got a couple internship offers,
Not bad, internshipsd are hard to come by these days.
>and I'm really having a hard time picking which to go with.
Remember, internships do not lock the rest of your career on to a single track. It is more about learning how industry works, and also gain some network.
>So far, the offers I have are for hardware reverse engineering
Can be interesting, since you will be working against experienced people, otherwise the reverse engineering would have been trivial.
>and for RFSoC+GPU RF signal processing work.
Sounds widely applicable. FPGA work too?
>Neither of these line up directly with my field,
Not a problem, really.
>as my previous research has been mobile computing, but both could be potentially useful.
Agree
>My plan is to apply for grad programs next year, so I'm trying to pick whichever would help me gain admission into a top EE program. In terms of potential skills and the type of work, which would you guys suggest going with?
RF signal processing sounds wider in scope but then again you haven't (and probably couldn't) say what the reverse engineering target would be or nvolve.
>For more context, the reverse engineering gig is at a higher clearance, and both positions pay the same.
Clearance has to be renewed, so you might need ity renewed once you complete your graduate studies. The need for clearance might probably limit what you can say about what you did during your internship.

>>16439577
>Sweden: close to failed state status has now realised it will take 10 years of hard work to root out the gangs
Bro those people are never going back lol.
They will violently resist any mass deportation efforts. They consider themselves to be living on conquered territory. It would unironically take a civil war to deport them and white faggots don't have the stomach for that, so they simply lost their country. Random grenade attacks and mass rape are just part of Swedish culture now.

>>16439797
He thinks college is like 1980s Hollywood movies where everyone is fucking constanty. Meanwhile in reality something like 60% of young men have never had sex.

>ASML in trouble
AIIEEEEE don't do this ffs you're supposed to grow infinitely so that I can trivially find a nice job after my phd

>>16440138
For one lab, they specifically don't have much FPGA work in that group due to the nature of the processing they are doing. For the reverse engineering internship, all I know is that is embedded systems work. Previous interns have done some wireless protocol reverse engineering, but I'm not sure if my work would line up with their previous projects. It could be hardware focused, software focused, or a mix of the two. In addition, I'll be graduating in fall of next year, so I'll have Winter 2026 completely free. Do you think its worth speaking with them and see if either organization is willing to delay my internship or re-interview me at the appropriate time for a winter 2026 co-op instead?

>>16440311
>For one lab, they specifically don't have much FPGA work in that group due to the nature of the processing they are doing.
Intriguing. Preferrring GPU processing of RF data rather than using FPGA is unexpected.

>In addition, I'll be graduating in fall of next year, so I'll have Winter 2026 completely free. Do you think its worth speaking with them and see if either organization is willing to delay my internship or re-interview me at the appropriate time for a winter 2026 co-op instead?
Not sure I understand, but why would you want to delay?

>>16440319
Ideally so I could work at both places before starting my Ph.D. Both places offer fall/winter co-ops, so I figured I could take one offer that summer and delay the other offer. My reasoning for this is that I think both could open interesting research opportunities and add interesting skillsets to what I know. So the main problem is that I'm not which would add greater value to my application, if it matters all that much.

>>16440232
I used to work for le ASML. One of the most bloated companies I have ever seen, burns cash like it's nothing.
When I went to Taiwan they put me in a hotel room that costs $880 a night and left me there for 3 weeks. No one checked the price beforehand.