So according to most movies, or word of mouth, getting shot or stabbed, etc in the hearts is an instant that, like getting your brains blown? Why? Your blood is still slushing around your body after the very last pump, wouldnt it take some time before your brain/other organs give up, like a minute or so?
You don't die instantly, you pass out instantly and die within a minute or two from oxygen deprivation. It's inevitably fatal because there's no way to stabilize someone who's heart was just shredded.
>>16437325But you're too late! You give love a bad name.
>>16437342>you pass out instantlyWhy?
>>16437351Hypovolemic shock
>>16437351Your blood disappears and then your vessels have not enough blood in them because if you were shot in the heart the blood is instantly gone
>>16437364Blood is stored in the heart.
Massive loss of blood pressure would leave your brain without oxygen and you would be unconscious in seconds.
>>16437325movie people don't read a lot of med journals>>16437342it highly depends on the level of "shredded" because people do rarely survive being shot in the heart with calibers like .22 or a very glancing hit. in the typical case though, >>16437382 is correct.
>>16437351Instantly is an exaggeration. If it's a 9mm or a knife and if you factor in the adrenaline response, you probably got maybe 3-6 secs before your out cold, and then you will die within another 10-30 sec or while unconscious. Any larger caliber would probably knock you out instantly.People dying/passing out from stomach wounds is retarded though. I got stabbed in my Radial Artery and, with some pressure on it, I stayed well awake till the paramedics came about 20 min later. I was a bit woozy and lost stupid amounts of blood but it wasn't a big deal really as long as you aren't running or stressing or just letting it squirt out.
>>16437430Damn bro, I got a half-stab half-slash (went in like a stab, came out like a slash) to the quad and I thought I was a badass for not crying over it. Meanwhile you tanked a knife to the stomach! Truly heroic shit that you survived that.
>>16437437Nah man Radial Artery is one of the two main in the arm, on the heart side. It's the one doctors will check your pulse with cuz it's connected straight to it basically. What I meant about the stomach thing is that it would bleed less so the movies make no sense.Also I am no hero haha, but I am sure as hell ain't gonna argue with no crackhead tryna jump the fence into a bar I'm sitting at ever again, that's for sure lmfao.Dude the quad would have hurt way more than this. There are like barely any nerves right where I got stabbed. The quad would have fucking sucked ass, good on ya for dealing with it like a champ too man
>>16437444I don't know much of anything about cardiovascular anatomy, I just assumed you were talking about one of the arteries near the stomach/torso.> Also I am no hero haha, but I am sure as hell ain't gonna argue with no crackhead tryna jump the fence into a bar I'm sitting at ever again, that's for sure lmfao.That's ironically kind of how I got stabbed too. A crackhead was harassing a young girl near my mother in-law's apartment old (a ghetto shithole area). Myself, my brother in law and one of his cousins went downstairs to try and get him to leave her alone, as he had her backed somewhat against a fence and she was terrified and screaming for help. When we got down there we got in the way enough for the girl to run to the cousin while my brother and law were chewing him out. Dude pulled a knife and lunged at me. Mid-lunge he lost part of his balance and his forward lunge towards my stomach ended up being a falling stab into my left leg before yanking the knife out as he fell to the ground. I lost a lot of blood but thankfully it wasn't anywhere near the major arteries running on the inside of the thigh, so it wasn't immediately life threatening and more of an infection risk than anything. The guy didn't even end up getting prison time because the fuckhead DA didn't end up pursuing charges after his social worker cried about how he was trying his best to get clean and get his life together.
>>16437448Brother in-law and I were chewing him out*
>>16437448DAs are consistently the most useless pieces of shit imaginable, US really needs a better system for charging people than politically-motivated elected officials doing it on personal opinions and how they're feeling that day
>>16437448Classic crackhead. Bummer with the DA dude. Especially when you just know he is out doing this shit again since then. I live in Sweden though and our crackheads are 90% unregistered boat migrants with literally no names or ID numbers in the system so I didn't even bother going to the cops.We do have old Swedish park drunks though, like Russia but not violent lmao
>>16437451Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately my area has been hit really hard by the opioid crisis, but the wealthier suburbs are able to protect themselves enough from the hellscape they've created that they basically feel no pressure to change it. Instead they do the bit where they endlessly argue for "rehabilitation, not prison" while not actually taking care of the dangerous addicts all over the damn place. It's not as bad as California, and thankfully we have winter so it's not as much of a year round problem, but it still sucks.
>>16437455In the US we tend to be quite good at producing our own crackheads, so the government doesn't seem to see much need to import them. I've never been to Sweden, but I saw plenty of what you were describing in Czechia. Prague has a ton of middle aged drunks just lounging about in the parks in the city. Basically every part of town that isn't crazy touristy had them all over the place but they weren't threatening as much as they were annoying (at least in 2019, it's been a bit since I was there for work so idk if it's changed much since).
>>16437325>according to most movies>Science & Math
>>16437464biology is a science
>>16437325Getting shot i the heart kills you faster than being shot in the head. And if you miss you can make a recovery enough to shoot again.If you do hit the heart, not just graze it, it will basically stop pumping blood, then the entire body dies.With the brain you take a risk at not hitting the parts that control heart beating and breathing. Many just go blind because they dont know what they are doing. Captain Sobel, of band of brothers fame, played by Ross, shot himself in the head and then spent 17 years crippled at a VA hospital.Fun fact. Sobel (סובל) means "Suffer" in hebrew.
I have a humble suggestion that i wish to popularize as a method: The wheel.You have to lie on the wheel with your feet facing outwards, then spin it (with a motor). The G forces will pull blood from the brain so you will pass out, its only a matter of RPMs.You can play edge games with it, you hold on to the rails and put RPMs high enough to blackout, then the centripetal forces expel you from the wheel as you can grab the rail, then you wake up.
>>16437325Blood has oxygen, blood must move to deliver O2. Heart moves blood but more importantly it moves O2 to organs that need it....like the brain. No O2 = no alive
>>16437351It would be extremely painful
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>>16438083Is he ok?
>>16439087guy that got shoot is dead.The cop that got tackled to the ground got paralixis i heard.
>>16439105>got paralixis i heard.Paralysis?Did he got shot or stabbed?
Suck a million cocks sci, suck a million CAWKS
>>16439527You are wrong. Jobs are part of a system, is it wrong to seek the highest power job all the time or are you supposed to be part of a good system that has you with a good job but not the most powerful.Truly think this through, I'm much wiser than you but I'm badly injured.
>>16439528Proficiency allows you to be a businessman and a soldier if you want.
This is advanced shit anyway, you're not aware of it until nowThink of a population of Aryans like Zanderkand. 'one big family'
Ease of collecting heaven points (a good system).(Includes wealth).
As said the 6-14 monarch minds will be decided fairly and that's per universe. So opportunity will arise again.
>>16439534Ra'qqqqqil
>>16437351You fall to one knee, vomit, then pass out
>>16437351Near instant loss of blood pressure in your brain. You ever see somebody black out when pulling high Gs? It's like that, rapid drop in blood pressure in the brain (albeit for a different reason). Lights out.
>>16437430I hope the nigger who stabbed you got killed.
>>16438083that was a special kind of gun which makes people break dance
>>16439568>You ever see somebody black out when pulling high Gs? IThis is why i have proposed the use of spinning wheel platforms to induce G forces. You can use them to play blacking out, or go all the way.The way you play is that you lie feet out on the wheel and hold to two rails behind your head, and as you blackout you release your grip and get kicked out of the wheel. Very fun. And doubles as a permanent escape if you strap yourself and put the motor in high speed
>>16439619RIPPEN
>>16437374You think the heart is really a lot bigger
>>16439875You think the mind is really a lot readabler
Well I think it would be the worst to be shot in the right ventricle of the heart (or the aorta), bevause if they were shot in the RV it would create a negative pressure (P) in the chamber and all flow out from the RA without stopping, and the tricuspid valve would never close back up (because the RV P would never > P of RA). And this would get it in the first part of (early) diastole, which also doesn't have any electrical activity, and be bypassing the lungs with the hole. This lower pressure before the pump, and no blood going into the main pulmonary artery) would cause the pressure in the lungs to increase and for perfusion to decrease due to constricted vessels (if not for the pump then because the lack of oxygen (V) in the alveoli would signal for constriction of the vessels (- Q), and none of the thread has mentioned that a lower perfusion throughout the lungs would also inhibit CO2 transport out of the body, which is worth mentioning because hypoxia is a factor but hypercapnia is dangerous and the lungs won't be able to expel CO2 which is what it would try to do if it can do neither of the two jobs in the situation. And the adrenaline would also cause all of the blood to go to the center of the body, out of the peripheral/extremities
>>16439933P of RV causes < respiratory P, so no cnstricted vessels (unless the alveoli would signal to stop the flow to those vessels to go to working ones) Q would decrease though - so V would also decrease, and the lungs would try to put CO2 into the blood there, over O2 (but CO2 is much mre soluble)not that it would do either of the two jobs but if it was like this then that would be the outcome. the hypoxia is important but the brain would also be colder (because of less blood there, and lower body temp from the blood loss, so it can last without oxygen for more than the 4 minutes other anons posted about), and CO2 would build up, and cell death would occur if someone was shot in the RV, not only in the heart (which cant repair itself - or go into apoptosis because it cant) and lungs but in other parts of the body via the mitochondria spilling in the other cells throughout the bodywith hypovolemia killing the person as they lose blood
>>16437430>Getting shot by 9mm is finethe absolute state of /k/tards
>>16437357But maybe u still feel it while grasping your hypovolemic pearls.
>>16437768Some dude near where I live shot his self in the head with a noose round his neck attached to a tree branch. People looked for him for weeks before someone found him in the woods a few hundred feet from his home. I suppose u could swallow an L-Pill and shoot yerself before it dissolves in the Kool Aid u washed it down with. You might do the noose too for good measure and sharpen a small Christmas Tree to fit just in yer bum so when u go limp you get impaled and hanged at the same time.
>>16437342If it happened in a hospital in the OR they could save the person by diverting the arteries and veins and circulating and artificially oxygenating the blood sustaining them until an artificial heart or transplant could be done in the coming hours or days.
>>16441616>you have 3-6 seconds to live"fine" according to /k/tards
>>16437351Ever stand up too fast? Imagine that without a blood flow recovery. You'd just go night night.
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