>Dr. Daniel McKeown is an astrophysicist who has been made homeless by the low pay working conditions of Academia. Currently, minimum wage workers in California would theoretically earn more than him in welfare gratuity.https://youtu.be/8EP9i-BeVgoWhat is wrong with the American education system?
>>16440581he should punch his boss.
>>16440597you faggots wont do shit
>>16440581This guy is a fag. He just doesn't want to work. Homeless My ass. If he's homeless then he should have no problem coming on campus instead of doing remote work.What a schizo liar.
>>16440651try us.
I thank God I'm not American.
>>16440581it says he makes $70k a year. Im sure he could've made some camping van as his home with a PO box address.
>>16440581>What is wrong with the American education system?It puts mentally ill leftists in positions of authority and power instead of giving them the bullet they deserve.
>>16440581>What is wrong with the American education system?Oh and it also fleeces young kids giving them a worthless "education" that puts them deep into the indentured servitude system our government (thanks to our current president, who spearheaded nondischargeable debt, an utterly unconditional notion), brainwashes them, destroys their mental health, and steals precious years of their youth while crippling their minds with false dogma.
>>16440581>What is wrong with the American education system?It also wastes a shit ton of taxpayer money on worthless "research" and floods our country with foreign immigrants via diploma mills.
>>16440581Anyway, you get what you fucking deserve. I don't care about this sob story, he should get a real job and do some honest work.
>>16440778No UCLA professor makes only $70k. This dude must be an adjunct teacher.
Is it this guy? https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=j4S3XIIAAAAJ&hl=en24 citations and less than 5 papers, yet he's a professor??? What sort of standards they have there lol. He sounds schizo too.
>>16440906You don't need that much to become a non-tenure track professor at most of these schools. You need even less to be a gun for hire style adjunct who teaches a full-time course load at the school while never even being an official employee. The guy probably is fairly green relatively speaking, and teaches a mandatory large lecture hall entry level course as either a full-time but low-level professorship position with no possibility of tenure (which also comes often with lower salaries than the more competitive tenure track positions), or he's a "full-time adjunct" who often do get paid poverty wages for their work. It's not atypical for the entire teaching payment for a single section of a 4 credit lab course to be only $4-5k. If you're only teaching one section, and this is your sole source of income for a 10 week semester (as they do in the UC system), you're not going to be living well on that salary and will need to find a real job elsewhere to make enough to afford an apartment.
>>16440581Free market theory says this is just a signal to quit such jobs. The market doesnt want astrophysics professors, people say they are important but are not willing to pay them so, not so important.
>>16440915>>16440581He makes enough money to afford an apartment. At the absolute worst he could be living with room mates. The problem is he is a schizo who refuses to do what is rational.
>>16440935>>16440814>>16440810>>16440806>>16440800why would people like this go on a science board? the only possible reason is that they've heard moderation is nonexistent so it's just a convenient place for them to post magatard and /pol/shit
>>16441239Project much?
>>16440915I'm interested in doing this. Roughly speaking, what's the pay like if I take on enough courses to work for about 30 hours a week in the fall and spring and take the summer off?
Getting a useless degree like astronomy pretty much proves he is low IQ, only a total idiot would do something that stupid. So its no wonder he is bad with money. He would be broke and homeless even if his salary was 10x bigger.>a fool and his money are soon parted
>>16441245It depends on the market you work in and what schools are looking for people. At the institution where I am a grad student, of you take on 4 sections of a 3 credit course per semester (about 30 hours of work including grading) as a contracted adjunct (as opposed to a full-time emoloyee post-doc) you'll get about $20k for 14 weeks worth of work. This is not a bad supplemental income, but it's not great considering you need a graduate education to even apply.
>>16441294science and mathematics is useless. if you only care about making apps you should be on /g/ pajeet.
>>16441239If you really cared about science you would agree that the educational system is a cancer and needs to be immediately dismantled. Abolish compulsory education, dismantle the university system, abolish all degrees and titles.
>>16440806*unconstitutional notion
>>16440581that's not very progressive
>>16441334I also like to say stuff like this because it's LE BASED REBEL & SCHIZO.upvoted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyRowf3Bkj0Responding to the /sci/trolls now
>>16441345>>>/pol/
>>16441343Thanks for the updoots kind sir! This is exactly why I keep coming back to plebbit
>>16441429No need to thank me, I don't support you or anything you're doing, you're a foot soldier in a corrupt and evil institution and the only way to redeem yourself is to leave. If anything can bring you to your senses maybe the experience of being homeless might. Just remember, you brought this on yourself.
>>16441345No, we need to purge mentally ill leftists and take back the country
>>16441345>standardsWho defines them?>educationWhat's the content of said education?>expertsBy what metric?
>>16440778>$70k a yearlmao imagine being homeless on 6k/mo. for a single guy that's like 5x the poverty line. bro is as paid as like 7 Ukrainians
>>16441239Caring about science doesnt imply we desire to maximize the amount of science professors.
>>16440581>homelessYou can find studio apartments in Koreatown for less than $1500. Commuting is easy too because the 720 rapid bus runs straight down Wilshire in the bus lanes directly to Westwood. In a couple more years the subway will run there as well so no car needed. This guy should easily be able to make it on his salary.
>>16440581>What is wrong with the American education system?The same reason why on-topic posts get deleted and off-topic /b/ - Random are STILL up. Academia and 4Chan are mirrored as 4Chan has become Reddit, and Twitter has become 4Chan. There is no "Science" here anymore, its "uni homework" and /b/.This is New World Order, your "teachers" are political activists and homeless vagabonds are the fabled Teachers of Ages past.https://youtu.be/4vxB9O3FbLY
>>16441429you're fighting a tough battle. Most people including myself would just quit and search for another job. The system is rigged and once you do these tantrums, you'll have a hard time getting job elsewhere because the new place doesn't want to get exposed by you.It would be a different matter if you and I were rich. Then we could object them all we want. Not so much now cuz we poor bruv
>>16440581Maybe this retard should publish more and do real science instead of wasting the trust the university administration placed in him.
>>16441748>do real scienceSo leave teaching?If he could do both then he should be making above $140k/year, as he stated a normal professor makes. He said the university also lied about having bargaining rights upon hiring, so their hand is corrupted and untrustworthy as it is.It looks to me they bought him at a bargain and refuse to renege his price, and found it fiscal to sack him and diversify his workload on someone else...maybe even another $70k/year "lecturer/professor/whatever".
>>16440581it's an administrative racket, not an education system
>>16441345should be an improvement as a heuristic
Metro Los Angeles has over twelve million people. Why does an astronomy program need to be in the middle of such a large city? The State of California has plenty of schools in low density areas with much lower COL. $70,000 is a struggle in Los Angeles, especially if you were to live anywhere near UCLA's Westwood campus. Meanwhile the University of California at Davis is in a town of about 70,000 and two thirds of that population is associated with the university. If you want to learn or teach astronomy, your money will go much further there.
>>16441786UCLA probably wouldn't be able to attract top tier researchers to their physics department if it were located out in the sticks.
>>16441832yeah astronomers hate living near observatories
>>16441838Most astronomy is done remotely these days via telescopes located in Hawaii, Chile, outer space etc. The days of the astronomer sitting at his telescope on a mountaintop in the freezing cold are long gone. A top researcher will want to live in a city with access to cultural amenities, entertainment, sports, good weather, good schools etc. LA ticks all those boxes perfectly. LA also has a shitload of consulting opportunities with all the tech and aerospace companies if they want to earn additional cash.
>>16441851getting paid for sitting in the comfy control room on a mountaintop resort is actually considered a perk of the job
>>16440581>I want to teach in the UCLA because reasons>blame the administratorswe all know muttoid universities are full of themselves but professors like this are what's enabling them. If I was in his shoes I'd just move to a cozy uni in the EU and live in a student dorm. Life is much easier when you realize other countries exist.
>>16440581small hat people
>>16441239what a fucking cuck.
>>16440581>LAL A is pretty much 50% zillionaires living in mansions or other retardedly expensive housing and 50% junkies and illegals living in tents on the sidewalk. Move somewhere sane.
If he just wants to teach he should work at a CSU. The state universities focus mainly on undergrad instruction and they pay their professors pretty well. With his UC background he should have no trouble getting on a career track at a CSU.
>>16440846In America, every dipshit is a "professor". You don't even need a PhD.
He should start a Homeless Astronomer youtube channel and talk about exoplanets, dark matter, the fermi paradox and other similar topics. That shit is really popular these days as shown by the success of the Event Horizon and Cool Worlds channels. There's no such thing as bad publicity and right now he has a lot of publicity.
Most professors can be replaced with instructional videos. Probably not the consult hours, but thats only like 10% of the workload so thats why i wrote "most". You can still fire 90% of professors and keep the 10% for consult hours.Actual lessons are stupid, its just some dumbass writing on a blackboard and talking. You could hire Brad Pitt to record a whole master course with a script written by Leonard Susskind
>>16442245>t.never gone to uni and never had loving parentsHaving someone knowledgeable around to answer questions and explain things matter a lot, retard.
>>16442259>Having someone knowledgeable around to answer questions and explain things matter a lotThats what consult hours are for, and i have 2 degrees in physics. The professors do nothing but copypaste books. You dont need some asshole to stand in front of a fucking blackboard writing with CHALK like its the 18th century for 5 hours a day, we have BOOKS with the same text.I had far more questions answered in group study seasons at the student lounge.
>I need 100K a year to pay for a 1 bedroom apartment in LA>Be UCLA physics professor>Attempt to scam faculty with low quality bait>Get mad and rant on YouTube when it doesn't workGo live in the ghetto, retard.
>be physics professor>try to pull off dumbest scam of all time>tell faculty they must step down for not agreeing to be extortedDoes he spend all his money on crack?
>>16441239>be a better slave, yall, I slaved all my entire life and haven't gotten ahead because you are not doing your fair share of slaving
>>16441851>. A top researcher will want to live in a city with access to cultural amenities, entertainment, sports, good weather, good schools etc.No, that sounds like someone who doesn't actually enjoy research and want to fuck off and do a bunch of different things instead.
>>16441851So you admit it is a choice of someone who wants to walk to the barcade and not at all about astronomy. Thanks for accidentally being honest for once about your hive fetish. Fact is the guy could simply teach somewhere with a lower cost of living but he wants "access" to high cost of living amenities. That's a choice and not even one based on academic concerns, showing once again all the "what does this say about our education system" is just another cover for people who want others to shower them with free stuff.Dude can go teach at any of several hundred schools and have a good life. But he MUST be in a city of twelve million or his life is ruined.
>>16441337if it's paid leave it is>>16441548people like you are the first to get purged in such a scenariothey killed brownshirts before they started killing jews lmao
>>16441786>Why does an astronomy program need to be in the middle of such a large city?the city gives them money to stay there>>16442446>Fact is the guy could simply teach somewhere with a lower cost of livingnobody here knows his real intentions or reasons.not everyone wants to settle down and semi-retire early.you go to the middle of nowhere and price out the locals once you've burnt out your career
>I feel entitled to live beyond my means because I have a phd>the rules shouldn't apply to me, I'm a special snowflake or something why are stemtards so narcissistic
>>16442496>they killed brownshirts before they started killing jews lmaoI'd be purged second then
>>16442264>You dont need some asshole to stand in front of a fucking blackboard writing with CHALK like its the 18th century for 5 hours a day, we have BOOKS with the same text.Yep, the educational system is a scam. Working as designed.
>>16442511That comes from being spoiled at a young age.
No board sucks up to the "elite" like /sci/ does
Musk characterizes the dumb loser in OP almost perfectly: >Too many people spend four years, accumulate a ton of debt and often don't have useful skills that they can apply afterwards.Only thing Musk missed is that OP faggot devoted well over a decade - a large fraction of his life - to useless trivia that nobody cares about.
>>16443209those people are not the "elite". To the real elite, those people are simple cartel-like bandits.The highest paid admins in the UC system are in the med school a very cartel like field.Cartel economics tend to exist due to government protection, government subsidized loans, or corruption of politicians.In the free market, these schools wouldn't be getting enough students to fund those type of salaries.
>>16442511what rules did he break?
>>16443209everyone on this board is spiritually jewish
>>16441577>6k/mo. for a single guy that's like 5x the poverty lineThat's under the la poverty line. I'm not sure if you know this but stuff is more expensive in different parts of the world
>>16443420I didn't say the professor was "elite"
>>16441838No shit sherlock
>>16440581So what was the plan here? If he wants a career in astrophysics shouldn't he be trying for an assistant professor position at the very least? Seems like a lecturer job is just a road to nowhere careerwise.
I am pretty sure those Professors at UCLA all voted for those minorities flocking into their area so that housing prices would skyrocket and make his 70k salary practically worth nothing.
>>16441239Good goy, I bet he'd love to die for Israel lmaoAlso what is 53%?
>everyone should pay massive taxes so the government can pay for trillion dollar nasa projects like JWST & SLS…>reeeeeeee why can't I make ends meet on $6000 a month!?!?!self-pwnd that fag is bankrupt because he pays gigabit taxes to nasa
He is not a real professor like in europe. Also, he does too few hours. Also, has too expensive housing.
>>16440581Why can't he just use his white privilege to get all the money he needs?
>>16444828heh.. funny aint it
>>16443756Seems like his plan was to live in a big city with work being a secondary concern.
The cost of living, especially housing, is very low in Whitewater, WI.>Buuuuuut, I want to be in the hustle and bustle of the city!Then keep being homeless.
>>16440846Lecturer if anything. A glorified TA with a shared office and no reserved parking space.
>>16440581Looking at his feed, lots of screaming at people on the internet, he insists that students pay $5 million to take his class in tuition/fees, so he's criminally underpaid at $70k.
>>16448399In state tuition for UC is 14k per year, so lord know how figures $7 million for his class. He sucks at math.
>>16443454Oh dear. You mean I have to have a roommate, like some pleb student? The horror!
>>16447987Good find, I'm going to apply for this over the weekend. Sounds like a nice town.
In one of his posts he says he needs more money so he can afford to live near campus in Westwood, one of the most expensive neighborhoods in Los Angeles. He's unwilling to commute to work like millions of other do every day. This map is from 2017 but shows prices relative to each other. And this is just the central part of the metro. Lots of people commute in from places like Thousand Oaks that have much lower costs of living. He's just another person who thinks he should start his career at the top.
>>164484064 classes per quarter, 16 classes a year, 875 dollars per studentIf he has 400 students and teaches 3 times a year, its still really far from 5 millionBut its a general trend i see with schools, such as language academies like Berlitz. You see these schools are just rented buildings, teachers do all the work and get like less than 10% of the cash paid by students. A testament to stupidity, it isnt like Berlitz owns the means of production, anyone can just hire a private teacher for much less and the teacher still earns more.
pffffft, mf is homeless with $70k a year? I lived on $20k year as a grad student and managed to survive. What the fuck is this guy spending his money on in LA? Stop trying to live in the city dumb ass.
>>16441851Yeah this professor is a dumb ass if he ever thought he was going to get paid $200k a year as an Astronomy teacher. Fucking even Astronomy teachers confessed to me how badly the job market is you might as well just go teach in public school at that point.
>>16449680>>16449671>>16449541
>>16449706I think you're that homeless "professor" or at least your picrel is lmao
This is a prime example of how massively out of touch with reality astroretards are. Dude must've spent every last second of his life living in his cringey sci-fi escapist fantasy land in order to willfully ignore the fact that his bills were larger than the check he was taking home was. Get a real job, loser
>Stop trying to live in the city
>>16452553Looks like he has lived in metro Los Angeles and San Francisco for all his life, which means he was well aware of the cost of living when he accepted the position. He links to a lot of stories about climate change and environmental justice, which really shouldn't be an area of focus for an astronomer. Seems like he thought he could shame the university into giving him a raise through bad publicity. The homeless claim is preposterous. He obviously knows lots of people in LA and he isn't living in a cardboard box. He called himself homeless because he can't cover his bills, which isn't the same thing as sleeping outdoors, though it can eventually lead to that, especially if one has no social network, which obviously isn't the case for him. He openly states he will only live in Westwood near campus and refuses to commute from further away where rent is lower. The university had to take a zero-tolerance stand on his hysterics or it would have unleashed a flood of employees doing similar things. He's lucky that he has been able to shortcut his way into a school with the prestige of UCLA, even as a lowly lecturer. If he wants to be a professor, he needs to go spend time in the boondocks at a lower tier school to amp up his credentials, and then move back to the big city with a better position. Go teach at Ball State in Muncie, Indiana, instead of the metro of 12 million where the only stars you can see are those selling their souls to Hollywood.
Two wrinkles:He's paying over $2000 on student loans each month. I'm sure someone can figure out how much in loans he took to end up paying that much even with the interest rates being artificially low.The other is that he decided to stop teaching his classes in person and instead gave students links to videos of past lectures. It appears his plan was to simply give out links to videos each term. If he wasn't going to lecture in person, why would he even need to live next to campus? People familiar with UCLA say even lecturers get graders and graduate teaching assistants, so exactly what work was he going to do for the $70,000 the university was paying him.
>>16448407Good goy, just live in the pod and eat the bugs, then you can survive off your full-time job which requires 10+ years of education
>>16452679If he's been borrowing since entering undergrad and kept borrowing until he got his Ph.D. in 2022, it would be impossible to calculate because each year would be a new set of loans, each with its own set of interest rates, which have varied wildly over the past decade. If he did a consolidation loan after graduation that came out to have a weighted interest rate of 5%, the loan would be around $375,000. That at least gives a ball park figure, assuming he's telling the truth about the size of his loan payment.
>>16452698>Society owes me free shit due to my bad decisions.We truly are in the looting phase of collapse.
>>16452706I agree, decades of underfunding and devaluing education has made people like you retarded
>>16452608>He links to a lot of stories about climate change and environmental justice>which really shouldn't be an area of focus for an astronomer. What should be an "area of focus for an astronomer"? Could you tell me what I should think too while you're at it
>>16452720In this case, the astronomer should focus on understanding the basics of math and finance since he claims to be homeless on a $70,000 salary, which is well above the median income for Los Angeles.
>>16452774Why are you on the science board then? Shouldn't you be working on something actually important instead, like scooping fries into a bag?
Los angeles has lots of shitboxes to live less than $1000/mo. What a cry baby bitch wanting luxury for being glorified science teacher.
>>16452835$1k is difficult in LA unless you have roommates. It's easy to find sub-$1500 studio apartments in Koreatown though.
>>16440581See my comments in other treads stating precisely these facts. Being a "really, really smart Astro-blah-blah" never has and never will pay well and you will always be dependent on government welfare. The minute it's gone, you'll be making lattes with all the other "smart, cool 30-somethings" working at Starbucks. The days of living a life of leisure as a "Tenured Professor" for 30-40 years are LONG GONE and never should've been in the first place. It created an environment of unimaginable entitlement and greed that has destroyed Higher Learning the world over. You'll also notice that almost all of the World's "great....." dropped out of school, or realized that owning a business and hiring smart people is better than trying to prove you are one to everyone else, which just reeks of insecurity. "Modern Academia" is run from top to bottom by 100% Leftists. They have no one to blame but themselves for abysmal state of their own "profession". but it's still not their fault......It never is.
imagine being dumb enough to choose a career in astronomy, a field which produces absolutely nothing useful. why would anyone legitimately intelligent decide to be useless? and after making that decision why would they be surprised they're not receiving substantial financial compensation for being a useless leech?
>>16453697Nothing wrong with studying something like that if you are from a family with the wealth to support you.>>16453648Pretty true but when there is a parasite class that large, they're not going to be removed easily.
>>16453705>My ancestors all busted their asses to establish long term generational wealth for the benefits of their descendants >Should I do my best to maintain their tradition of success?>No, instead I'm going to ruin that and shit all over their legacies (except their money of course, that tradition I'll accept) by being a worthless loser. >That way further generations of our family can be impoverished all thanks to my selfishness
>>16453808Depends on what the family considers a success. History is full of scientists, writers, and philosophers who were able to produce their works due to support from their family. For many of those families, that member is the only reason why anyone remembers the family at all. This is different than becoming an aimless NEET who does nothing but consume entertainment. There certainly have been some of them in wealthy families over the centuries too, though that's a more affordable "luxury" for the middle class now, while in the past only the wealthiest of families could support such deadweight in addition to children and the elderly.
>>16453808Based desu. Newton, copernicus, and galois were all basically losers who spat on their family's names
The recurring answer in this thread is astronomy isn't any meaningful subject so you studying it is worthlessYou could say that to any fundamental science.
>>16454007The recurring answer in this thread is that you don't need to live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in a city of twelve million people to teach and research astronomy.
>>16454007you should study remedial english
>>16452561That is AI trash, adobe stock is utter crap.
>>16443454> $1500 per week is below the poverty line in the USAmerica is a failed experiment.
>>16454421California is for sure
>>16440778I have a one bedroom ~25 minute commute to UCLA in a mostly white area for 1,800 a monthThe guy is just bad at finding real estate deals and compromising on a few apartment features.
>>16454421So is basically every 1st world country. Baumols cost disease is a bitch
Funniest thing about all of this is that he's made himself radioactive right at the start of his career. Administrators will put up with a bunch of dumb shit from professors but the one thing they won't tolerate are attacks on the administration itself. You can trade sex for grades or "borrow" university property and the administration will cover it up but go after the administrators and you're toast. He's not going to be hired by any school anywhere near as high profile as UCLA now. He's going to end up somewhere like Georgia Southern University that has little choice in who they hire because no one wants to live in Statesboro, Georgia if they have other options.
>>16452707Fuck off /pol/ tard.
>>16455342ywnbaw
>>16455350You Will Never Bring Astronomy to Westwood?
>>16452679He should just get a federal government job that offers student loan forgiveness. For example the DOD hires physicists with only BS degrees. These jobs pay pretty decent and the facilities are often in lower cost of living areas where housing is cheaper. With a PhD he might even be able to start at a higher GS level for more money.
>>16456537He doesn't want to live in a lower cost of living area, he wants to live in Westwood right next to a college campus. Probably thought he could be a "rock star" type science prof, slaying undergrad pussy every night.
Who knew someone like this might be a bit of a drama queen?
>>16456641He should stop calling himself professor because he's a lecturer. he'd probably not even get a lecturer position elsewhere in the world.
Boom.>https://nypost.com/2024/10/25/us-news/ucla-homeless-lecturer-dr-daniel-mckeown-placed-on-leave-for-calling-out-school-pay/[tosses a newspaper on your bullshit desk thats covered in bullshit "science papers"]t.Investigative Reporter (Journalism, PhD)B^|
>>16454822Small towns like Statesboro, Georgia are nicer places to live than some ghetto campus in a urban zone.
I kind of support the guy and think people in academia should be paid higher. PhDs and postdocs are essentially free labour to the unis. But I also think he can probably have a temporary fix to his problem himself if he became a bit proactive rather than throwing an unnecessary tantrum. That's not helping him at all
>>16457324Yeah, the professor could easily teach at a nearby community college that pays better or live in a shittier (slightly further away) neighborhood, but getting 70k/year for a position that requires a phd (and is contracted) is insane
>>16457347This type of thinking is why a Ph.D. is required in the first place for such a low level job.
>I don't care about money, I just want to contribute to science 5 minutes later>REEEEEEEE GIBES ME MORE MONEY!!!>No, I will not do anything to earn more than my already large salary, gibes me dat moni fo free
I wish I had a homeless professor to teach me street smarts
>>16457598>>16440581You have to admit, the US university system has been kind of genius. Charge people obscene amounts to study, educate way too many people on obscure fields, cause them to find refuge from the real world in phd studies, and boom, there you have an oversupply of cheap teaching staff for your next scam-victims.Only the AMA has successfully lobbied to reduce the amount of education in their field and keep salaries high.
>>16458034And there's no threat from the competition. Just keep pumping out degrees and everyone's staff costs go down together.
He'd be earning mad cash if he had studied something useful, but it seems he was too low IQ to figure that out lol
>>16440581Everyone who isn't deluded escaped academia and went into the private sector. A few years ago I wanted to do PhD but my guy told me to forget about it, get specialized and enter the private sector and that was the best advice I have ever been given. Not only will you be doing more interesting work that actually has an application in real world but you'll also earn astronomically more.
>>16440581> astrophysicistSo literally waste of space. I’m mad that he makes any money at all! He should be paying UCLA for the privilege of indoctrinating young minds
>>16459727You can say that to any science really
>>16461299You sound like someone who doesn't trust The Science
>>16440651america is too diverse for people to stand up for their labor rights
>>16459240If he went to medical school instead of getting an astro phd he would currently be making $300,000
>>16462660with $500K+ debt
Wheres all the money in colleges going if the students are poor and the professors are poor?
>>16440581>only 70k a yearonly 70k a year?Why is this thread still up? Why do you guys fall for these fake victims?
>>16456848Even in LA 70k a year is very wealthy.
>>16462660>>16462695Would be making about $200.000 with $250.000 in debt so about a year and half of salary worth of debt. But easy to pay with such a high income where you can easily like on half the money
>>16465901kekin california that's lower middle class
>>16465388administration, there are like three do-nothing paper pushers for every professor
>>16465450/sci/ is a very low IQ board full people dumb people who mistakenly presume they're intelligent regardless lack of material evidence of their. its an extremely common emotional problem, you will almost never meet a dumb person who realizes they are dumb
>>16440935free market theory is just a theory and doesn’t happen in practice since all human systems naturally fall into corruption and subversion.the politicians and banksters are the ones who determine truth.
>>16465960Which is still very wealthy, all things considered. Once the rent is taken care of the price of goods is basically identically across the nation. Assume you're paying $2500 a month for rent, and you have a take-home of $70k after taxes. That's $40k left over to pay for groceries, gas, student loans, and everything else. Groceries and gas might be a little more expensive in LA, but not nearly as much as housing. But that $40k is more than the entire average income in several states.
>>16466348Car Payment - 6k GoneElectricity - 1.5k GoneAuto Insurance - 1.5k GonePhone Bill - 500 GoneFuel - 2k GoneRetirement Fund - 5k GoneHealth Insurance - 2.0k GoneFood Price/Day - 10/20/30 - 3.6k / 7.2 k / 10.8 k - GoneWater Bill - not sure what this looks like on the left coast
>>16466298>you will almost never meet a dumb person who realizes they are dumbNot true, I've met many less intelligent than average people who fully accepted that they're not smart.
>>16465388You should ask the football coach who is getting paid 20 million/year, or maybe ask his assistant whose making 5 million/year
>>16466966UCLA's media rights for athletics brings in $60 million per year. That doesn't include NCAA tournament money, ticket sales, merchandise, etc. The current football coach makes $3 million per year. If you add in the rest of the football staff, the cost is $10 million per year.
>>16467014It's funny you bring up UCLA specifically considering their athletic department operated at a 36 million dollar deficit last year, and have been losing money for the last 5 years (they're about 167 million in debt, wonder whose going to pay that...) A few athletic departments make money, most don'tI think the issue is bigger than sports though. Kids applying to college generally don't give a shit about their education. They want the best football team, the nicest gym, free mental health services, the newest and coolest looking dorms, etc. If you need all that just to draw in students, and you also have a bloated administration, then it's no wonder universities are pissing away money while paying lecturers shit
>>16466951Those people were smarter than you, they were able to recognize truths about themselves that you are not capable of perceiving
>>16467036YFW the virgin nerd astro teacher gets paid less than a city bus driver because UCLA needs to save money to use for the chad athletes.
>>16467036>It's funny you bring up UCLA specificallyDid you miss that the entire thread is about UCLA? Your addiction to "GOTCHA!" has made you look like a complete moron for missing the context of what you replied to.
>>16467954YWNBACFC(you will never be a college football coach)
Academia is supposed to be intended as a leisure activity for landed gentry.Povos weren't supposed to try and worm their way as a method of social mobility.
>>16466348>paying rentonly chumps do that, as long as inflation and the mortgage interest deduction are real it is stupid to ever rent.
>>16468834>buy a $500,000 house with an interest only bank loan>10 years later the house is worth twice as much>the $500,000 is worth half as much>the money you paid in interest costed you nothing because it was deducted from your income taxes>you now own a million dollar house and owe $500,000 on the loan>you get $500,000 for freecompare that to renting>you rented for 10 years at $2500/month>you paid out a total of $300,000>you paid out that sum out of after-tax income>so you had to have earned about $500,000 to pay the $300,000>you're out $500,000 and have nothing to show for ita total swing in wealth of a million dollars over the course of a decadeand thats why the low IQ slob in OP is poor. astronomers are notoriously bad at math, this incident only confirms that even further
>>16468087100% this. If the man really cared about wealth he'd be building wealth instead of whining about how a job that is SUPPOSED to pay nothing pays nothing.
>>16470097Agreed. I'm fine with poor people who are really passionate about their research going into academia, but then they shouldn't complain about the money, which they are getting from taxpayer's pockets.The reward is getting to do interesting research, often using expensive publically funded equipment. No one owes you a good salary for it.
>>16468834Hard to own a home when you have to move every few years.
>>16470068is it that easy?
>>16441239What are you talking about?The secondary education system of the United States is FILLED TO THE BRIM with corruption, racketeering, and pyramid schemes.Or do you really believe that the amount of students being slung through the meat grinder of windmill degrees that require nearly 2 years of "General Education" classes that have nothing to do with the degree field they are trying to obtain degree for, is somehow "the way"?The only tard here, is you.Fuck off, dipshit.This isn't even about politics. You brought that here, because you are small minded.
>>16440581Unnamed TA here.He got reported up the chain for profiting off the job because he has been uploading classwork to Youtube.From a legal perspective, this is a no-no, without the express permission of the institution.Secondly, if a student's work is presented in this way without the student's permission, it breaks the student privacy laws, you know shit like FERPA.This guy is a dumbass and is playing a false victim card.He fucked up, he isn't talking about that on his videos./endrant
>>16471952I thought it would turn out to be something like this. Thanks for confirming.
>>16452679>>16452704>nearly $400kWait, so are you telling me when Americans talk about student loans they are including loans for daily expenses like food and rent the whole time?Is that why you're all so fucked? You have a culture of living on credit for up to 10 years?In that case get fucked, you niggers deserve to suffer for that behavior.
>>16472436>lives at his parents place in college what a loser lmao
>>16471952Professor Leonardmaxxing
>>16471952>He got reported up the chain for profiting off the job because he has been uploading classwork to Youtube.Wow, I never realized the "no homework threads" rule was that severe or far reaching. Jannies are extremely powerful.
>i just want to be a scientist >i just want to contribute to knowledge>i don't care about money>i am so humble and non greedyok you can be a scientists, we'll pay you $70k, thats more than twice what most americans earn>WHAT!?!? >ONLY $70,000!!?!>THATS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME>I DESERVE WAY MORE THAN THAT>I NEED TO LIVE IM THE MOST EXPENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD IN LA, I'M AN IMPORTANT SCIENTIST!!!why are scientists so shallow minded, narcissistic and greedy?
>>16440581>>16440581this guy comes across as a bit schizo to me. but schizophrenia gets made a whole lot worse by being homeless, so that doesnt mean his problem isnt legit
>>16461595>your fundamental right to force people to employ other than under conditions of mutual consentBut you'll call ME the bootlicking fascist, naturally.
>>16440597With his car.
>>16472436>You have a culture of living on credit for up to 10 years?If you want to study you need to either work and study less or just study and have someone else pay for it. I didnt pay anything because i was just living in my house with my parents and my mom just cooked for me and washed my clothes and my dad worked to bring money. I just studied.Later on in life i found out there were people that studied in university, worked and also were married with kids. Holy shit
>>16475588academia is for people with severe personality disorders who are incapable of functioning in adult society.
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>>16440581>Get sacked for being homelessIs this normal in USA?
>>16443454>6k/mo is under the poverty lineI am British and even I'm shocked by this.
>>16449541TIL the rent in Beverly Hills is the same as in Hackney.
>>16452608You can be homeless without literally being in the streets. This is a common misconception that couch surfing doesn't count as homeless.
The state of California would have more money to pay their state university system's professors with if they weren't spending all their money on gibes for illegal immigrants.
>>16440581What's up with people becoming professors having absolutely no clue how poor or generally treated like shit they're gonna be? Do they just go in completely blind, asking nobody before deciding their whole career?
>>16478570jjailbait
>>16478570the professors at their schools lie to them because they don't want to admit to being poorfags themselves
>>16440581Diogenes is rolling in his barrel
>>16481682a lot of university professors come from wealthy families, being a fancy professional schoolteacher is an extremely common form of conspicuous consumption
>>16485690Any job thats considered prestigious automatically becomes subject to the desires of the conspicuous consumers
