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>Dr. Daniel McKeown is an astrophysicist who has been made homeless by the low pay working conditions of Academia. Currently, minimum wage workers in California would theoretically earn more than him in welfare gratuity.

https://youtu.be/8EP9i-BeVgo

What is wrong with the American education system?
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>>16440581
he should punch his boss.
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>>16440597
you faggots wont do shit
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>>16440581
This guy is a fag. He just doesn't want to work. Homeless My ass. If he's homeless then he should have no problem coming on campus instead of doing remote work.

What a schizo liar.
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>>16440651
try us.
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I thank God I'm not American.
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>>16440581
it says he makes $70k a year. Im sure he could've made some camping van as his home with a PO box address.
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>>16440581
>What is wrong with the American education system?
It puts mentally ill leftists in positions of authority and power instead of giving them the bullet they deserve.
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>>16440581
>What is wrong with the American education system?
Oh and it also fleeces young kids giving them a worthless "education" that puts them deep into the indentured servitude system our government (thanks to our current president, who spearheaded nondischargeable debt, an utterly unconditional notion), brainwashes them, destroys their mental health, and steals precious years of their youth while crippling their minds with false dogma.
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>>16440581
>What is wrong with the American education system?
It also wastes a shit ton of taxpayer money on worthless "research" and floods our country with foreign immigrants via diploma mills.
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>>16440581
Anyway, you get what you fucking deserve. I don't care about this sob story, he should get a real job and do some honest work.
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>>16440778
No UCLA professor makes only $70k. This dude must be an adjunct teacher.
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Is it this guy?
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=j4S3XIIAAAAJ&hl=en
24 citations and less than 5 papers, yet he's a professor??? What sort of standards they have there lol. He sounds schizo too.
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>>16440906
You don't need that much to become a non-tenure track professor at most of these schools. You need even less to be a gun for hire style adjunct who teaches a full-time course load at the school while never even being an official employee.

The guy probably is fairly green relatively speaking, and teaches a mandatory large lecture hall entry level course as either a full-time but low-level professorship position with no possibility of tenure (which also comes often with lower salaries than the more competitive tenure track positions), or he's a "full-time adjunct" who often do get paid poverty wages for their work.

It's not atypical for the entire teaching payment for a single section of a 4 credit lab course to be only $4-5k. If you're only teaching one section, and this is your sole source of income for a 10 week semester (as they do in the UC system), you're not going to be living well on that salary and will need to find a real job elsewhere to make enough to afford an apartment.
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>>16440581
Free market theory says this is just a signal to quit such jobs. The market doesnt want astrophysics professors, people say they are important but are not willing to pay them so, not so important.
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>>16440814
>>16440810
>>16440806
>>16440800
why would people like this go on a science board? the only possible reason is that they've heard moderation is nonexistent so it's just a convenient place for them to post magatard and /pol/shit
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>>16441239
Project much?
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>>16440915
I'm interested in doing this. Roughly speaking, what's the pay like if I take on enough courses to work for about 30 hours a week in the fall and spring and take the summer off?
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Getting a useless degree like astronomy pretty much proves he is low IQ, only a total idiot would do something that stupid. So its no wonder he is bad with money. He would be broke and homeless even if his salary was 10x bigger.
>a fool and his money are soon parted
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>>16441245
It depends on the market you work in and what schools are looking for people. At the institution where I am a grad student, of you take on 4 sections of a 3 credit course per semester (about 30 hours of work including grading) as a contracted adjunct (as opposed to a full-time emoloyee post-doc) you'll get about $20k for 14 weeks worth of work. This is not a bad supplemental income, but it's not great considering you need a graduate education to even apply.
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>>16441294
science and mathematics is useless. if you only care about making apps you should be on /g/ pajeet.
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>>16441239
If you really cared about science you would agree that the educational system is a cancer and needs to be immediately dismantled.

Abolish compulsory education, dismantle the university system, abolish all degrees and titles.
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>>16440806
*unconstitutional notion
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>>16441334
I also like to say stuff like this because it's LE BASED REBEL & SCHIZO.
upvoted.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyRowf3Bkj0

Responding to the /sci/trolls now
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>>16441343
Thanks for the updoots kind sir! This is exactly why I keep coming back to plebbit
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>>16441429
No need to thank me, I don't support you or anything you're doing, you're a foot soldier in a corrupt and evil institution and the only way to redeem yourself is to leave. If anything can bring you to your senses maybe the experience of being homeless might. Just remember, you brought this on yourself.
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>>16441345
No, we need to purge mentally ill leftists and take back the country
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>>16441345
>standards
Who defines them?
>education
What's the content of said education?
>experts
By what metric?
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>>16440778
>$70k a year
lmao imagine being homeless on 6k/mo. for a single guy that's like 5x the poverty line. bro is as paid as like 7 Ukrainians
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>>16441239
Caring about science doesnt imply we desire to maximize the amount of science professors.
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>>16440581
>homeless
You can find studio apartments in Koreatown for less than $1500. Commuting is easy too because the 720 rapid bus runs straight down Wilshire in the bus lanes directly to Westwood. In a couple more years the subway will run there as well so no car needed. This guy should easily be able to make it on his salary.
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>>16440581
>What is wrong with the American education system?
The same reason why on-topic posts get deleted and off-topic /b/ - Random are STILL up. Academia and 4Chan are mirrored as 4Chan has become Reddit, and Twitter has become 4Chan. There is no "Science" here anymore, its "uni homework" and /b/.

This is New World Order, your "teachers" are political activists and homeless vagabonds are the fabled Teachers of Ages past.

https://youtu.be/4vxB9O3FbLY
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>>16441429
you're fighting a tough battle. Most people including myself would just quit and search for another job. The system is rigged and once you do these tantrums, you'll have a hard time getting job elsewhere because the new place doesn't want to get exposed by you.
It would be a different matter if you and I were rich. Then we could object them all we want. Not so much now cuz we poor bruv
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>>16440581
Maybe this retard should publish more and do real science instead of wasting the trust the university administration placed in him.
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>>16441748
>do real science
So leave teaching?

If he could do both then he should be making above $140k/year, as he stated a normal professor makes. He said the university also lied about having bargaining rights upon hiring, so their hand is corrupted and untrustworthy as it is.

It looks to me they bought him at a bargain and refuse to renege his price, and found it fiscal to sack him and diversify his workload on someone else...maybe even another $70k/year "lecturer/professor/whatever".
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>>16440581
it's an administrative racket, not an education system
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>>16441345
should be an improvement as a heuristic
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Metro Los Angeles has over twelve million people. Why does an astronomy program need to be in the middle of such a large city? The State of California has plenty of schools in low density areas with much lower COL. $70,000 is a struggle in Los Angeles, especially if you were to live anywhere near UCLA's Westwood campus.
Meanwhile the University of California at Davis is in a town of about 70,000 and two thirds of that population is associated with the university. If you want to learn or teach astronomy, your money will go much further there.
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>>16441786
UCLA probably wouldn't be able to attract top tier researchers to their physics department if it were located out in the sticks.
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>>16441832
yeah astronomers hate living near observatories
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>>16441838
Most astronomy is done remotely these days via telescopes located in Hawaii, Chile, outer space etc. The days of the astronomer sitting at his telescope on a mountaintop in the freezing cold are long gone. A top researcher will want to live in a city with access to cultural amenities, entertainment, sports, good weather, good schools etc. LA ticks all those boxes perfectly. LA also has a shitload of consulting opportunities with all the tech and aerospace companies if they want to earn additional cash.
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>>16441851
getting paid for sitting in the comfy control room on a mountaintop resort is actually considered a perk of the job
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>>16440581
>I want to teach in the UCLA because reasons
>blame the administrators
we all know muttoid universities are full of themselves but professors like this are what's enabling them. If I was in his shoes I'd just move to a cozy uni in the EU and live in a student dorm. Life is much easier when you realize other countries exist.
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>>16440581
small hat people
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>>16441239
what a fucking cuck.
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>>16440581
>LA
L A is pretty much 50% zillionaires living in mansions or other retardedly expensive housing and 50% junkies and illegals living in tents on the sidewalk. Move somewhere sane.
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If he just wants to teach he should work at a CSU. The state universities focus mainly on undergrad instruction and they pay their professors pretty well. With his UC background he should have no trouble getting on a career track at a CSU.
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>>16440846
In America, every dipshit is a "professor". You don't even need a PhD.
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He should start a Homeless Astronomer youtube channel and talk about exoplanets, dark matter, the fermi paradox and other similar topics. That shit is really popular these days as shown by the success of the Event Horizon and Cool Worlds channels. There's no such thing as bad publicity and right now he has a lot of publicity.
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Most professors can be replaced with instructional videos. Probably not the consult hours, but thats only like 10% of the workload so thats why i wrote "most". You can still fire 90% of professors and keep the 10% for consult hours.
Actual lessons are stupid, its just some dumbass writing on a blackboard and talking. You could hire Brad Pitt to record a whole master course with a script written by Leonard Susskind
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>>16442245
>t.never gone to uni and never had loving parents
Having someone knowledgeable around to answer questions and explain things matter a lot, retard.
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>>16442259
>Having someone knowledgeable around to answer questions and explain things matter a lot
Thats what consult hours are for, and i have 2 degrees in physics. The professors do nothing but copypaste books. You dont need some asshole to stand in front of a fucking blackboard writing with CHALK like its the 18th century for 5 hours a day, we have BOOKS with the same text.
I had far more questions answered in group study seasons at the student lounge.
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>I need 100K a year to pay for a 1 bedroom apartment in LA

>Be UCLA physics professor
>Attempt to scam faculty with low quality bait
>Get mad and rant on YouTube when it doesn't work

Go live in the ghetto, retard.
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>be physics professor
>try to pull off dumbest scam of all time
>tell faculty they must step down for not agreeing to be extorted

Does he spend all his money on crack?
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>>16441239
>be a better slave, yall, I slaved all my entire life and haven't gotten ahead because you are not doing your fair share of slaving
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>>16441851
>. A top researcher will want to live in a city with access to cultural amenities, entertainment, sports, good weather, good schools etc.
No, that sounds like someone who doesn't actually enjoy research and want to fuck off and do a bunch of different things instead.
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>>16441851
So you admit it is a choice of someone who wants to walk to the barcade and not at all about astronomy. Thanks for accidentally being honest for once about your hive fetish. Fact is the guy could simply teach somewhere with a lower cost of living but he wants "access" to high cost of living amenities. That's a choice and not even one based on academic concerns, showing once again all the "what does this say about our education system" is just another cover for people who want others to shower them with free stuff.
Dude can go teach at any of several hundred schools and have a good life. But he MUST be in a city of twelve million or his life is ruined.
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>>16441337
if it's paid leave it is
>>16441548
people like you are the first to get purged in such a scenario
they killed brownshirts before they started killing jews lmao
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>>16441786
>Why does an astronomy program need to be in the middle of such a large city?
the city gives them money to stay there

>>16442446
>Fact is the guy could simply teach somewhere with a lower cost of living
nobody here knows his real intentions or reasons.
not everyone wants to settle down and semi-retire early.
you go to the middle of nowhere and price out the locals once you've burnt out your career
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>I feel entitled to live beyond my means because I have a phd
>the rules shouldn't apply to me, I'm a special snowflake or something
why are stemtards so narcissistic
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>>16442496
>they killed brownshirts before they started killing jews lmao
I'd be purged second then
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>>16442264
>You dont need some asshole to stand in front of a fucking blackboard writing with CHALK like its the 18th century for 5 hours a day, we have BOOKS with the same text.
Yep, the educational system is a scam. Working as designed.
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>>16442511
That comes from being spoiled at a young age.
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No board sucks up to the "elite" like /sci/ does
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Musk characterizes the dumb loser in OP almost perfectly:
>Too many people spend four years, accumulate a ton of debt and often don't have useful skills that they can apply afterwards.

Only thing Musk missed is that OP faggot devoted well over a decade - a large fraction of his life - to useless trivia that nobody cares about.
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>>16443209
those people are not the "elite". To the real elite, those people are simple cartel-like bandits.
The highest paid admins in the UC system are in the med school a very cartel like field.

Cartel economics tend to exist due to government protection, government subsidized loans, or corruption of politicians.
In the free market, these schools wouldn't be getting enough students to fund those type of salaries.
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>>16442511
what rules did he break?
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>>16443209
everyone on this board is spiritually jewish
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>>16441577
>6k/mo. for a single guy that's like 5x the poverty line
That's under the la poverty line. I'm not sure if you know this but stuff is more expensive in different parts of the world
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>>16443420
I didn't say the professor was "elite"
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>>16441838
No shit sherlock
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>>16440581
So what was the plan here? If he wants a career in astrophysics shouldn't he be trying for an assistant professor position at the very least? Seems like a lecturer job is just a road to nowhere careerwise.
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I am pretty sure those Professors at UCLA all voted for those minorities flocking into their area so that housing prices would skyrocket and make his 70k salary practically worth nothing.
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>>16441239
Good goy, I bet he'd love to die for Israel lmao
Also what is 53%?
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>everyone should pay massive taxes so the government can pay for trillion dollar nasa projects like JWST & SLS

>reeeeeeee why can't I make ends meet on $6000 a month!?!?!

self-pwnd
that fag is bankrupt because he pays gigabit taxes to nasa
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He is not a real professor like in europe. Also, he does too few hours. Also, has too expensive housing.
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>>16440581
Why can't he just use his white privilege to get all the money he needs?
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>>16444828
heh.. funny aint it
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>>16443756
Seems like his plan was to live in a big city with work being a secondary concern.
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The cost of living, especially housing, is very low in Whitewater, WI.
>Buuuuuut, I want to be in the hustle and bustle of the city!
Then keep being homeless.
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>>16440846

Lecturer if anything. A glorified TA with a shared office and no reserved parking space.
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>>16440581

Looking at his feed, lots of screaming at people on the internet, he insists that students pay $5 million to take his class in tuition/fees, so he's criminally underpaid at $70k.
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>>16448399

In state tuition for UC is 14k per year, so lord know how figures $7 million for his class. He sucks at math.
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>>16443454

Oh dear. You mean I have to have a roommate, like some pleb student? The horror!
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>>16447987
Good find, I'm going to apply for this over the weekend. Sounds like a nice town.
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In one of his posts he says he needs more money so he can afford to live near campus in Westwood, one of the most expensive neighborhoods in Los Angeles. He's unwilling to commute to work like millions of other do every day.
This map is from 2017 but shows prices relative to each other. And this is just the central part of the metro. Lots of people commute in from places like Thousand Oaks that have much lower costs of living. He's just another person who thinks he should start his career at the top.
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>>16448406
4 classes per quarter, 16 classes a year, 875 dollars per student
If he has 400 students and teaches 3 times a year, its still really far from 5 million
But its a general trend i see with schools, such as language academies like Berlitz. You see these schools are just rented buildings, teachers do all the work and get like less than 10% of the cash paid by students. A testament to stupidity, it isnt like Berlitz owns the means of production, anyone can just hire a private teacher for much less and the teacher still earns more.
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pffffft, mf is homeless with $70k a year? I lived on $20k year as a grad student and managed to survive. What the fuck is this guy spending his money on in LA? Stop trying to live in the city dumb ass.
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>>16441851
Yeah this professor is a dumb ass if he ever thought he was going to get paid $200k a year as an Astronomy teacher. Fucking even Astronomy teachers confessed to me how badly the job market is you might as well just go teach in public school at that point.
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>>16449671
>>16449541
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>>16449706
I think you're that homeless "professor"
or at least your picrel is lmao
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>Stop trying to live in the city
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>>16452553
Looks like he has lived in metro Los Angeles and San Francisco for all his life, which means he was well aware of the cost of living when he accepted the position. He links to a lot of stories about climate change and environmental justice, which really shouldn't be an area of focus for an astronomer.
Seems like he thought he could shame the university into giving him a raise through bad publicity. The homeless claim is preposterous. He obviously knows lots of people in LA and he isn't living in a cardboard box. He called himself homeless because he can't cover his bills, which isn't the same thing as sleeping outdoors, though it can eventually lead to that, especially if one has no social network, which obviously isn't the case for him. He openly states he will only live in Westwood near campus and refuses to commute from further away where rent is lower.
The university had to take a zero-tolerance stand on his hysterics or it would have unleashed a flood of employees doing similar things. He's lucky that he has been able to shortcut his way into a school with the prestige of UCLA, even as a lowly lecturer. If he wants to be a professor, he needs to go spend time in the boondocks at a lower tier school to amp up his credentials, and then move back to the big city with a better position. Go teach at Ball State in Muncie, Indiana, instead of the metro of 12 million where the only stars you can see are those selling their souls to Hollywood.
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Two wrinkles:
He's paying over $2000 on student loans each month. I'm sure someone can figure out how much in loans he took to end up paying that much even with the interest rates being artificially low.
The other is that he decided to stop teaching his classes in person and instead gave students links to videos of past lectures. It appears his plan was to simply give out links to videos each term. If he wasn't going to lecture in person, why would he even need to live next to campus? People familiar with UCLA say even lecturers get graders and graduate teaching assistants, so exactly what work was he going to do for the $70,000 the university was paying him.
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>>16448407
Good goy, just live in the pod and eat the bugs, then you can survive off your full-time job which requires 10+ years of education
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>>16452679
If he's been borrowing since entering undergrad and kept borrowing until he got his Ph.D. in 2022, it would be impossible to calculate because each year would be a new set of loans, each with its own set of interest rates, which have varied wildly over the past decade. If he did a consolidation loan after graduation that came out to have a weighted interest rate of 5%, the loan would be around $375,000. That at least gives a ball park figure, assuming he's telling the truth about the size of his loan payment.
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>>16452698
>Society owes me free shit due to my bad decisions.
We truly are in the looting phase of collapse.
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>>16452706
I agree, decades of underfunding and devaluing education has made people like you retarded
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>>16452608
>He links to a lot of stories about climate change and environmental justice
>which really shouldn't be an area of focus for an astronomer.
What should be an "area of focus for an astronomer"? Could you tell me what I should think too while you're at it
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>>16452720
In this case, the astronomer should focus on understanding the basics of math and finance since he claims to be homeless on a $70,000 salary, which is well above the median income for Los Angeles.
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>>16452774
Why are you on the science board then? Shouldn't you be working on something actually important instead, like scooping fries into a bag?
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Los angeles has lots of shitboxes to live less than $1000/mo. What a cry baby bitch wanting luxury for being glorified science teacher.
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>>16452835
$1k is difficult in LA unless you have roommates. It's easy to find sub-$1500 studio apartments in Koreatown though.
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>>16440581
See my comments in other treads stating precisely these facts. Being a "really, really smart Astro-blah-blah" never has and never will pay well and you will always be dependent on government welfare. The minute it's gone, you'll be making lattes with all the other "smart, cool 30-somethings" working at Starbucks.

The days of living a life of leisure as a "Tenured Professor" for 30-40 years are LONG GONE and never should've been in the first place. It created an environment of unimaginable entitlement and greed that has destroyed Higher Learning the world over. You'll also notice that almost all of the World's "great....." dropped out of school, or realized that owning a business and hiring smart people is better than trying to prove you are one to everyone else, which just reeks of insecurity.

"Modern Academia" is run from top to bottom by 100% Leftists. They have no one to blame but themselves for abysmal state of their own "profession". but it's still not their fault......It never is.
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>>16453697
Nothing wrong with studying something like that if you are from a family with the wealth to support you.
>>16453648
Pretty true but when there is a parasite class that large, they're not going to be removed easily.
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>>16453808
Depends on what the family considers a success. History is full of scientists, writers, and philosophers who were able to produce their works due to support from their family. For many of those families, that member is the only reason why anyone remembers the family at all.
This is different than becoming an aimless NEET who does nothing but consume entertainment. There certainly have been some of them in wealthy families over the centuries too, though that's a more affordable "luxury" for the middle class now, while in the past only the wealthiest of families could support such deadweight in addition to children and the elderly.
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>>16453808
Based desu. Newton, copernicus, and galois were all basically losers who spat on their family's names
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The recurring answer in this thread is astronomy isn't any meaningful subject so you studying it is worthless
You could say that to any fundamental science.
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>>16454007
The recurring answer in this thread is that you don't need to live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in a city of twelve million people to teach and research astronomy.
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>>16452561
That is AI trash, adobe stock is utter crap.
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>>16443454
> $1500 per week is below the poverty line in the US
America is a failed experiment.
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>>16440778
I have a one bedroom ~25 minute commute to UCLA in a mostly white area for 1,800 a month
The guy is just bad at finding real estate deals and compromising on a few apartment features.
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>>16454421
So is basically every 1st world country. Baumols cost disease is a bitch
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Funniest thing about all of this is that he's made himself radioactive right at the start of his career. Administrators will put up with a bunch of dumb shit from professors but the one thing they won't tolerate are attacks on the administration itself. You can trade sex for grades or "borrow" university property and the administration will cover it up but go after the administrators and you're toast. He's not going to be hired by any school anywhere near as high profile as UCLA now. He's going to end up somewhere like Georgia Southern University that has little choice in who they hire because no one wants to live in Statesboro, Georgia if they have other options.
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>>16452707
Fuck off /pol/ tard.
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>>16455342
ywnbaw
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>>16455350
You Will Never Bring Astronomy to Westwood?
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>>16452679
He should just get a federal government job that offers student loan forgiveness. For example the DOD hires physicists with only BS degrees. These jobs pay pretty decent and the facilities are often in lower cost of living areas where housing is cheaper. With a PhD he might even be able to start at a higher GS level for more money.
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>>16456537
He doesn't want to live in a lower cost of living area, he wants to live in Westwood right next to a college campus. Probably thought he could be a "rock star" type science prof, slaying undergrad pussy every night.
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>>16456641
He should stop calling himself professor because he's a lecturer.
he'd probably not even get a lecturer position elsewhere in the world.
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Boom.
>https://nypost.com/2024/10/25/us-news/ucla-homeless-lecturer-dr-daniel-mckeown-placed-on-leave-for-calling-out-school-pay/
[tosses a newspaper on your bullshit desk thats covered in bullshit "science papers"]

t.Investigative Reporter (Journalism, PhD)
B^|
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I kind of support the guy and think people in academia should be paid higher. PhDs and postdocs are essentially free labour to the unis. But I also think he can probably have a temporary fix to his problem himself if he became a bit proactive rather than throwing an unnecessary tantrum. That's not helping him at all
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>>16457324
Yeah, the professor could easily teach at a nearby community college that pays better or live in a shittier (slightly further away) neighborhood, but getting 70k/year for a position that requires a phd (and is contracted) is insane
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>>16457347
This type of thinking is why a Ph.D. is required in the first place for such a low level job.
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I wish I had a homeless professor to teach me street smarts
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>>16457598
>>16440581
You have to admit, the US university system has been kind of genius. Charge people obscene amounts to study, educate way too many people on obscure fields, cause them to find refuge from the real world in phd studies, and boom, there you have an oversupply of cheap teaching staff for your next scam-victims.
Only the AMA has successfully lobbied to reduce the amount of education in their field and keep salaries high.
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>>16458034
And there's no threat from the competition. Just keep pumping out degrees and everyone's staff costs go down together.
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He'd be earning mad cash if he had studied something useful, but it seems he was too low IQ to figure that out lol
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>>16440581
Everyone who isn't deluded escaped academia and went into the private sector. A few years ago I wanted to do PhD but my guy told me to forget about it, get specialized and enter the private sector and that was the best advice I have ever been given. Not only will you be doing more interesting work that actually has an application in real world but you'll also earn astronomically more.
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>>16440581
> astrophysicist
So literally waste of space. I’m mad that he makes any money at all! He should be paying UCLA for the privilege of indoctrinating young minds
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>>16459727
You can say that to any science really
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>>16461299
You sound like someone who doesn't trust The Science
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>>16440651
america is too diverse for people to stand up for their labor rights
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>>16462660
with $500K+ debt
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Wheres all the money in colleges going if the students are poor and the professors are poor?
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>>16440581
>only 70k a year
only 70k a year?

Why is this thread still up?

Why do you guys fall for these fake victims?
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>>16456848
Even in LA 70k a year is very wealthy.
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>>16462660
>>16462695
Would be making about $200.000 with $250.000 in debt so about a year and half of salary worth of debt. But easy to pay with such a high income where you can easily like on half the money
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>>16465901
kek
in california that's lower middle class
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>>16465388
administration, there are like three do-nothing paper pushers for every professor
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>>16440935
free market theory is just a theory and doesn’t happen in practice since all human systems naturally fall into corruption and subversion.
the politicians and banksters are the ones who determine truth.
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>>16465960
Which is still very wealthy, all things considered. Once the rent is taken care of the price of goods is basically identically across the nation.

Assume you're paying $2500 a month for rent, and you have a take-home of $70k after taxes.
That's $40k left over to pay for groceries, gas, student loans, and everything else.
Groceries and gas might be a little more expensive in LA, but not nearly as much as housing. But that $40k is more than the entire average income in several states.
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>>16466348
Car Payment - 6k Gone
Electricity - 1.5k Gone
Auto Insurance - 1.5k Gone
Phone Bill - 500 Gone
Fuel - 2k Gone
Retirement Fund - 5k Gone
Health Insurance - 2.0k Gone
Food Price/Day - 10/20/30 - 3.6k / 7.2 k / 10.8 k - Gone
Water Bill - not sure what this looks like on the left coast
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>>16466298
>you will almost never meet a dumb person who realizes they are dumb
Not true, I've met many less intelligent than average people who fully accepted that they're not smart.
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>>16465388
You should ask the football coach who is getting paid 20 million/year, or maybe ask his assistant whose making 5 million/year
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>>16466966
UCLA's media rights for athletics brings in $60 million per year. That doesn't include NCAA tournament money, ticket sales, merchandise, etc. The current football coach makes $3 million per year. If you add in the rest of the football staff, the cost is $10 million per year.
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>>16467014
It's funny you bring up UCLA specifically considering their athletic department operated at a 36 million dollar deficit last year, and have been losing money for the last 5 years (they're about 167 million in debt, wonder whose going to pay that...) A few athletic departments make money, most don't

I think the issue is bigger than sports though. Kids applying to college generally don't give a shit about their education. They want the best football team, the nicest gym, free mental health services, the newest and coolest looking dorms, etc. If you need all that just to draw in students, and you also have a bloated administration, then it's no wonder universities are pissing away money while paying lecturers shit
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>>16467036
>It's funny you bring up UCLA specifically
Did you miss that the entire thread is about UCLA? Your addiction to "GOTCHA!" has made you look like a complete moron for missing the context of what you replied to.
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>>16467954
YWNBACFC
(you will never be a college football coach)
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Academia is supposed to be intended as a leisure activity for landed gentry.

Povos weren't supposed to try and worm their way as a method of social mobility.
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>>16468087
100% this. If the man really cared about wealth he'd be building wealth instead of whining about how a job that is SUPPOSED to pay nothing pays nothing.
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>>16470097
Agreed. I'm fine with poor people who are really passionate about their research going into academia, but then they shouldn't complain about the money, which they are getting from taxpayer's pockets.

The reward is getting to do interesting research, often using expensive publically funded equipment. No one owes you a good salary for it.
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>>16468834
Hard to own a home when you have to move every few years.
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>>16470068
is it that easy?
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>>16441239
What are you talking about?

The secondary education system of the United States is FILLED TO THE BRIM with corruption, racketeering, and pyramid schemes.

Or do you really believe that the amount of students being slung through the meat grinder of windmill degrees that require nearly 2 years of "General Education" classes that have nothing to do with the degree field they are trying to obtain degree for, is somehow "the way"?

The only tard here, is you.
Fuck off, dipshit.
This isn't even about politics. You brought that here, because you are small minded.
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>>16440581
Unnamed TA here.

He got reported up the chain for profiting off the job because he has been uploading classwork to Youtube.

From a legal perspective, this is a no-no, without the express permission of the institution.

Secondly, if a student's work is presented in this way without the student's permission, it breaks the student privacy laws, you know shit like FERPA.

This guy is a dumbass and is playing a false victim card.

He fucked up, he isn't talking about that on his videos.

/endrant
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>>16471952
I thought it would turn out to be something like this. Thanks for confirming.
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>>16452679
>>16452704
>nearly $400k
Wait, so are you telling me when Americans talk about student loans they are including loans for daily expenses like food and rent the whole time?
Is that why you're all so fucked? You have a culture of living on credit for up to 10 years?
In that case get fucked, you niggers deserve to suffer for that behavior.
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>>16472436
>lives at his parents place in college
what a loser lmao
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>>16471952
Professor Leonardmaxxing
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>i just want to be a scientist
>i just want to contribute to knowledge
>i don't care about money
>i am so humble and non greedy
ok you can be a scientists, we'll pay you $70k, thats more than twice what most americans earn
>WHAT!?!?
>ONLY $70,000!!?!
>THATS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME
>I DESERVE WAY MORE THAN THAT
>I NEED TO LIVE IM THE MOST EXPENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD IN LA, I'M AN IMPORTANT SCIENTIST!!!

why are scientists so shallow minded, narcissistic and greedy?
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>>16440581
>>16440581
this guy comes across as a bit schizo to me. but schizophrenia gets made a whole lot worse by being homeless, so that doesnt mean his problem isnt legit
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>>16461595
>your fundamental right to force people to employ other than under conditions of mutual consent
But you'll call ME the bootlicking fascist, naturally.
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>>16440597
With his car.
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>>16472436
>You have a culture of living on credit for up to 10 years?
If you want to study you need to either work and study less or just study and have someone else pay for it. I didnt pay anything because i was just living in my house with my parents and my mom just cooked for me and washed my clothes and my dad worked to bring money. I just studied.
Later on in life i found out there were people that studied in university, worked and also were married with kids. Holy shit
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>>16440581
>Get sacked for being homeless
Is this normal in USA?
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>>16443454
>6k/mo is under the poverty line
I am British and even I'm shocked by this.
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>>16449541
TIL the rent in Beverly Hills is the same as in Hackney.
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>>16452608
You can be homeless without literally being in the streets. This is a common misconception that couch surfing doesn't count as homeless.
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>>16440581
What's up with people becoming professors having absolutely no clue how poor or generally treated like shit they're gonna be? Do they just go in completely blind, asking nobody before deciding their whole career?
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>>16478570
jjailbait
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>>16440581
Diogenes is rolling in his barrel
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>>16478570
>professors having absolutely no clue how poor
They aren't. Professors don't make much compared to what they could in industry, but they're definitely not poor. Adjunct lecturers are the ones who get paid and treated like shit
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>>16478570
>he thinks California's immigrant problem is the abuelas and jesus that are completely powerless on the political, economic and social scales
>but the hordes of H1B hoarders, O-1 cheaters and other bullshiters who game the immigration system to come in "legally" and put a mssive pressure on the wages, housing market and politics are completely fine
Retard.
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>>16478570
what's the solution then? if professors are paid so poorly at a school like UCLA, are all prospective professors just supposed to roll over and not take those jobs? think for two seconds about the implications that has for higher education if the unilaterally bad pay is the deal-breaker
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>>16493104
The selfless option is to teach in Academia even with a low salary just to bolster the teaching of young students. It is selfless but you won't be making a whole lot of money. But if the school can count on people like that then they will never feel the need to raise salaries to attract more teachers.
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>>16475588
Minimum wage in California is around 14 or 15 dollars (30k+ a year) and higher in urban places. Even McDonalds is paying in the range of 20 to 25 dollars per hour in California for entry jobs alone so his salary is low.
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>>16493202
I don't know if this is news to you, but academia is significantly more competitive than industry
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>>16452608
>UCLA

Prestige? UCLA? Where?
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>>16475838
>Later on in life i found out there were people that studied in university, worked and also were married with kids. Holy shit
Yeah, crazy how much you can do if you don't post on Udmurt bone carving forum all the time
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>>16493464
>who's job is to produce a widely desired, useful product?
Because the job has little to no requirements, hence the company can more easily lower salaries.
>They don't need to be government subsidized like astronomy does.
But that's the entire joke here. These companies can only realistically keep their workforce by ensuring that their workers are subsidized by the government because the companies themselves do not pay their workers a salary that they could realistically survive on. That McDonalds, Walmart etc. pay their employees 35 to 40k a year minimum already shows that 1. no one can realistically survive on these salaries in California and 2. corporations known to keep salaries as low as possible cannot lower them even farther in that state.
>...paying them $70k is $70 wasted because they won't produce a penny of value in return.
Salaries are determined by cost-volume-profit analyses, not by some metaphysical notion of value. Something that requires 4 years undergraduate studies, 5 years graduate studies and some more years of having worked in academic settings should be paid more than something that poses absolutely no requirements because someone having spent 10+ years of his life has spent 10 years earning little to nothing.
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>>16494233
>because someone having spent 10+ years of his life has spent 10 years earning little to nothing.
Correction: spent 10+ years of his life studying/researching. I will show why adjunct teachers and professors earning nothing has a very good reason.

I could go to the USA, either attempt to join an existing PhD program or fund one myself. Why don't I do it? Because I have absolutely nothing to gain realistically from a PhD in the humanities that does not come with research experience and/or proof of having attained extremely high grades throughout all of my studies.
And why is that? Primarily because having good grades translates into being capable of carrying out orders. That's cost-volume-profit analyses for you. So, the economy doesn't specifically care about what you've learnt in university/college, it is only primarily interested in you carrying out orders in some domain of their interest. Most students and PhDlets mistakenly believe that the worth of their degree is determined primarily by what they've learnt in it when in fact, its worth primarily comes from it being a good wagie diploma.
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>>16494233
It doesn't matter how much time you spent learning your useless shit, labour theory of value is simply wrong and you are retarded for believing it.
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>>16440581
>What is wrong with the American education system?
Capitalism working as intended
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Imagine how much money his parents must've spent sending him to various 'adult' educational institutions just for him to end up as a useless bum. They must be extremely frustrated and disappointed.
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>>16475588
$70k is not enough for a university professor in Los Angeles
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>>16496477
Based on what? Because apparently it is for everyone else at his level.
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>>16440581
What's that hairstyle called?
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>>16496765
Costs of living
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>>16497936
Can you provide evidence for this assertion?
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>>16497944
They don't quit their adjuncting job in favor of better working conditions and pay. Clearly they enjoy being paid nothing
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>>16496870
$70k is above the median household income in Los Angeles. He's just a spoiled baby expecting luxury at the start of his career.
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>>16440581
he was put on leave because he was whining about the plight of not being a tenure track professor on social media nonstop.
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What's with people expecting the start their careers at the top? Dude is only a couple of years out of school and he expects to be on a tenure track at UCLA?
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Is a full time professor? I didn't know pay was that low. I looked briefly at what adjuncts make and lol'd may way to an industry immediately.
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>>16496477
Why should a university professor make more than that? You can't throw a stone without a PhD who would take the job these days. If you want more money, fucking make something useful and get a patent.
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>>16494233
>Salaries are determined by cost-volume-profit analyses
Salaries are not determined by an analysis. They are determined by what an employer is willing to pay, and what a candidate is willing to accept. UCLA has no shortage of people waiting to take his job as soon as he leaves. Open professor positions get hundreds of applications for every open job.
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>>16500786
Do you want to employ deadbeat losers barely scraping by?
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>>16440581
I saw this guy on instagram a while ago. My jaw dropped when he mentioned having over $150k in debt. Classic case of imposter syndrome. Not rich enough to fund grad school, or talented enough for funding, but more than willing to absolutely ruin himself financially for prestige, which includes refusing to leave UCLA for another college in a cheaper area. His faculty position is the equivalent full time adjunct in the UC system, you can see that based on how things are organized on the department’s website. But seriously, go look at the actual full time faculty, their rate of pay, their work/publications and their achievements.. it will make you hate him even more. Son of a single mom vibes coming from this guy.

I legitimately think this guy is a danger to himself and the department.
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>>16500753
Officially he was suspended because he told the department he was going to make his classes online only even though that wasn't an option for him. It's really funny that he wanted to both make his classes online only but also demanded more money so he could live in Westwood, one of the most expensive parts of the city, "to be near to campus". Why the fuck would he need to be close to campus if he was going to teach his classes as online only?
>>16500926
My impression is that he wanted to be an eternal student but got to the point where he had to either finish up his Ph.D. or get pushed out. He doesn't want the responsibilities of a professor but wants the lifestyle of a student maxing out on loans. Many students experience a large decline in lifestyle upon graduation if they're in a field that doesn't pay a high salary starting out.
If he really wants to do astronomical research and teach, he should get a job with an online university and move to some low cost small town with little light pollution. Even if his type of astronomy isn't optical based, being in a place where you can get a visual reminder of what you're studying each night would help set him back on track.
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>>16500940
>Officially he was suspended because he told the department he was going to make his classes online only even though that wasn't an option for him
what’s wrong with this guy?
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>>16501311
He has a large online presence which may have altered his perception of reality.
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even plebbit hates this guy
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>>16503234
They can be right for the wrong reasons. Generally it's the only reason why they are sometimes right.
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lmao check out his lectures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLliKqPpuMk&t=5839s

This guy teaches like the spaz kid who always sits front row and barely has a grasp of the material stepping up to teach the course.

He does his lectures remote because his self-esteem is shot from low lecture attendance every quarter. Everyone knows his class will be BS with easy exams.

It looks like he's botting comments and pushing his channel to try and get that youtube money now.
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>>16503482
So he just reads off his laptop for the entire lecture? And when he isn't, he makes shitty quips?
What does he even do outside teaching that stops him from looking over the lecture notes even once?
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>>16503482
>midwit whiny bitch libshit lecturer in no name school
>circuits are just an application
no no no ee bros not like this
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>>16503482
>put your name in the comment section for extra credit
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>>16441577
I live in LA and I make only a little bit more than him, not quite $10k more, but somehow I manage to put $30,000 a year into savings while living comfortably and going to Japan on vacation once a year
t. auto mechanic

He must be spending his money on drugs or something, he looks like it for sure. Also druggies will always blame everything except their drug addiction for the problems, thats the nature of addiction, the drugs become priority #1
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>>16440581
I wouldn’t be surprised if he shot up the physics department at ucla. This guy is unhinged.
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>>16505547
IIRC, he took out something like $150,000 in student loans and now that he has his Ph.D., instead of getting a big pile of money each semester, he has to pay a bunch of money each month. Lots of students have severe lifestyle reductions after they graduate even if they get a good paying job. For many, college ends up being their highest standard of living for their entire life.
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>>16501855
plebbit's secretly filled with assholes who will stop pretending to be nice as soon as they notice nobody's gonna give em any special points/karma for "acting like a decent human being".
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>>16505594
His loan payment must be around $1500/month then, so 18k per year. $70k/year after taxes in California is something like $55k. He could have easily gotten a studio within commuting distance for $1500, which would have left him with $19k more or less to cover living expenses for year (after loan payments, housing, AND having the summers off) UNTIL he leveled up or found a better job. That doesn’t sound like an impossible scenario for an eccentric academic to put up with for a little while. I thought those people lived at the lab when they weren’t teaching anyway.
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>>16505611
He probably would have been better off getting a job somewhere like Arkansas State or Northern Iowa where the cost of living is next to nothing. Those schools probably pay less than UCLA but it's also going to be far easier to move up the ranks in those places. But he's seem more interested in the city nightlife than research or teaching, which means big city universities are all he will consider.
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>>16505691
>But he's seem more interested in the city nightlife
sounds like a euphemism for anonymous gay sex
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>>16505691
>>16506372
>But he's seem more interested in the city nightlife
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>>16507337
For him that would make sense as studying the rest of the universe is a good way to not pay attention to the issues here on Earth.
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>>16507461
there aren't any serious issues here on earth, the ones everyone complain about are all fake. we live at the absolute all time peak of civilization and ease
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>>16440676
You are just a cuckold who wants to force people to participate in your humiliation fetish because the people you regard as inferior having dignity inflicts narcissistic injury and drives you insane.
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>>16440581
>IM NOT AN ADJUNCT
>only teaches 2 classes
sure buddy
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>>16509244
compsoi on suicide watch
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>>16509364
Wonder which DeVry campus he's going to end up teaching at.
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>>16505611
how is he paying 18k per year on a 150k loan with an interest rate far below 10% if he is keeping up on his payments?
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>>16511329
Loans for graduate students is currently at 8.08% but have been lower in the recent past. I picked 7.5% as a weighted average and came up with pic related. Paying a thousand a month on loans would make his budget tight but with a full course load, it would be doable. Ultimately what appears to have fucked him was the desire to continue to live the lifestyle he had when taking out loans rather than the reduced lifestyle of a debt payer.
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>>16492132
He didn't bring up immigrants at all.
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>>16440581
>because he is homeless
Or maybe because he’s making a bunch of videos of himself complaining about his employer?
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>>16511463
That and he didn't want to actually show up for work. He unilaterally declared that all his classes would be online only and refused to come to campus to teach when the university told him he couldn't do online only.
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>>16501855
On the one hand, this kind of “stolen valor” should be a non-issue, but on the other hand it proves this guy is willing to fib in obvious ways
>>16448399
it’s simple arithmetic, if you want to blow your mind a little. these numbers might not apply to UCLA exactly but it applies mutatis mutandis
>each student is paying ~$40,000 a year
>takes ~10 classes a year
>so ~$4000 per class
>I have 200 students in my lin alg class
>so my linalg class is worth $800,000
>I teach this course 3-4 times a year
>and my salary is actually from a separate government grant
>so where money all go ???
I know, I know, they aren’t paying that $4,000 to see HIM, he couldn’t just rent a classroom and pull in that kind of money for physics lessons but it’s still pretty mind-bending calculation
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>>16511489
>$4k per class
what nigger? in-state tuition is $12.5k per year. even if you try to factor in out of staters and international students, it’s nowhere near that for a 3 credit hour course. i went to cal, not even five years ago the UC system tried to bring in as many in-staters as possible.
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>>16511626
Love how the state constitution prohibit charging tuition so they just call it a fee instead.
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>>16511489
>hmmm I think I'll become a schoolteacher
>I don't want to earn a lot of money, I'd rather be poor
>*becomes schoolteacher*
>REEEEEEE WHY AREN'T I EARNING THE BIG BUCKS!!!!!
>THIS IS NOT FAIR!!!
>I DESERVE SO MUCH MORE!!!
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>>16454441
A lot of professors don't own cars but ride bikes. Maybe it's that
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>>16456677
What's the difference
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>>16513139
He literally says he wants them to raise his salary to 200k so he can afford a 2.5k/month apartment in Westwood (a rich part of LA) which is 30k a year. He currently makes 70k which he says isn't enough.
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>>16511626
right, this calculation might not apply directly to UCLA, it might be closer to a private university such as Stanford. the class sizes are also made up etc. change these variables and perform the calculation again. you will still get a number that seems surprisingly big
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She will earn more in the next 5 years than astronomy phd morons earn in their entire lives
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>>16514277
But enough about her OnlyFans.
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>>16514277
The perfect clerk for Ketanji Brown Jackson has been found
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>>16515509
lol
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>>16441723
The only correct post in this thread
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>>16513537
30k is a lot less than 70k
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>>16441239
Gigabased. Just live within your means it's not hard. An "homeless academic" has 0 cost centers besides food which is dirt cheap in America.
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>>16441239
>they've heard moderation is nonexistent
False.

They act as a bulwark for shitposting and anti-science trolling.
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>>16514277
>academia is for smart people
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>>16514277
>even retards know getting an astronomy degree is something only an idiot would do
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>>16440581
>you should get a STEM degree, STEM degrees will earn you a big salary
lol
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>>16440800
Based. A good commie is dead commie
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>>16442222
End the thread here
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>>16443351
>that nobody cares about
The irony is that Elon runs a company that DOES care — SpaceX
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>>16505594
>he took out something like $150,000 in student loans
It's wild to me that. apparently, majority of Americans have to do something like this
Why are you ok with turning young adults into debt serfs?
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>>16520582
SpaceX doesn't need someone who is knowledgeable in dark matter and galaxy evolution, which is what this guy claims to be an expert in.
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>>16520613
About half of graduates have no student loan debt and of those who do, $29,000 is the average amount when they complete their studies. For those who only get a bachelor's degree, the average is $13,722. For those who get advanced degrees, the amount rises quickly, with PhDs ending up over $50,000 in debt on average.
This guy stayed in the university system for over a decade, taking out more and more loans to fund his lifestyle. He could have taken time off between each of his degrees to go work and earn money but he chose to spend over a decade of his life borrowing, not earning.
You should ask him why he was ok turning himself into a debt serf. What's the alternative? Requiring garbage men and construction workers to pay higher taxes so guys like this can sit around doing nothing productive for over a decade? 92% of all student loans come from the US Treasury. Only 8% come from banks.
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he wouldn't be having those problems if he was a minority, tranny, woman or a nepotism beneficiary. he has the same degree and neil tyson and earns 10% tyson's pay because he is a straight white male of Christian background
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Maybe if he lived at home with his mom, he'd be able to make it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfK0HE14P6k
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>go to college for business
>Liberal arts & science majors make fun of business program
>I graduate and make $70k wfh immediately
>liberal arts & science majors go into more debt for more degrees so they can be 'rewarded' with eternal abuse & exploitation by the same system they went into debt for
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>>16521815
I guess there is a bigger demand for uber eats drivers.
You know, it's not the job that's the shame but the fact that people working shit but in demand jobs can't afford a home (at least a commieblock apartment) and a family.
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>>16521891
Employers and governments aren't responsible for determining living standards.
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>>16521894
They kind of are, especially if they want to stay ruling and keep their wealth.
Ancient Romans understood that already with bread and circuses and all of that.
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>>16521930
>hahaha bread and circuses meme
>I am so sophisticated and worldly
>they could never pull that one over on me
>*continues posting on 4chan*
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>>16522056
>pull that over on me
It's not about that. More that people want to be pulled over.
What I mean is, if things turn to shit there will be anger and then revolutions. Thus - bread and circuses to make people happy and docile.
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>>16520632
>galaxy evolution
there is no evidence that galaxies undergo evolution, galaxies at redshift display the same collection of morphologies that nearby galaxies do
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>>16523311
Astronomers like to study nonexistent things. If you study nonexistent things then its impossible for anyone do discover evidence disproving your theories.
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>>16505691
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>>16442245
>>16442264
>>16442259


Just replace lecturer with videos and extend consult hours 10x. Nobody need someone to repeat everything in the textbooks. But having someone to explain parts you don't understand can actully be helpful.
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>>16524909
Many students actually like lectures.
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>>16521894
I guess we arent responsible for them not getting robbed then.
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How much do you think an H1B astronomer costs, I bet its a lot less than $70k
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>>16526727
Doubt there's much, if anything, covered in his lectures that aren't also covered by a class on Khan Academy.
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>>16526727
staaaarrr…
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>>16526727
We don't need more black holes.
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>>16454822
Exactly. Dude's publicly complaining about 70k/year for a part-time job, misleading people publicly into thinking he's full-time tenure-track faculty, he publicly on TikTok/Instagram insists on living close to campus without roommates in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the world, and has not done any good research and is not doing any good research. He made his classes remote and online without permission and got suspended so now he's whining about that too and misleading people into thinking that he was suspended because of retaliation. Dude can literally go back to his PhD institution Irvine (a fantastic school) and do better research and find cheaper housing and get a higher position in the department but no let's burn bridges and destroy my career instead. He would be so so so much happier working as an engineer or programmer in industry.
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>>16531277
Kids who throw temper tantrums to get what they want eventually tire themselves out when no one gives in to them. This dork kept raising the stakes and the school called his bluff because they could see he had nothing in his hand. It might take a year of fucking around doing nothing besides whining online and crashing on people's couches but he'll eventually realize he has zero leverage and can't even get back to where he was.
My guess is that his next stop is a for-profit school like the University of Phoenix where he'll spend a few years in academic purgatory before some small public university in Arkansas or South Dakota gives him another chance.
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>>16531317
>Kids who throw temper tantrums to get what they want eventually
get what they want because they're based. adults who play by the same rules are also based.
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>>16532252
Did he want to be unemployed and homeless?
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>>16532254
he played the rules badly, which is expected from anyone with an astronomy degree because nobody but an absolute idiot would devote years of their life to getting a useless degree like astronomy
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>>16533493
This, astronomy is one of the worst meme degrees you can get. The old 'underwater basket weaving degree' joke would provide way, way more practical skills and employment potential than an astronomy degree
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>>16534762
There's a pure "astronomy" degree? Sounds far too niche to not be just a specialization of physics. How does it differ from astrophysics?
Where I'm from, which isn't the US, the closest you can get is a degree track called "physics and astronomy", which is basically just a rebranded physics course so they could sucker in more of the "I like physics, I just don't like math AND physics"-crowd.
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>>16534883
you have to go to a school that has a strong enough astronomy program that astronomy is its own department separate from physics
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>>16535882
>a school that has a strong enough astronomy program that astronomy is its own department separate from physics
AKA a school for idiots
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>>16440778
If he's in Cali, the average pay you need to rent a place is around 84k.
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>>16441239
If so gave you the choice of being born with an IQ of 135 or a large lump sum payment from your parents when you turn 18, you would be making the statistically wrong choice if you chose the IQ and were thinking it make you more successful than the money.
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>>16537428
If someone*
Swing and a miss.
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>>16452706
The reason rent is so high is because of government regulations though. So society has actually caused the problem.
And it's all to benefit the rich. Basically, it's welfare for the rich.
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>>16537428
Lottery winners and professional sports stars often end up destitute. The choice doesn't make sense unless you quantify the IQ that goes along with the lum sum payment. 100 IQ at 18 with a huge pot of money? Iffy chances of long term success but it's possible. 85 IQ at 18 with a huge pot of money? Probably dead within the year.
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>>16537442
High rent in Westwood is due to it being a highly desirable area. Guess you could blame that on the government for not razing the entire area and covering it with high rise commie blocks.
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>>16537428
>>16537650
you've got a point but honestly, I wouldn't even think about the money. I'd choose the money option just to not be born with high IQ.
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>>16537652
The government doesn't have to do anything. The free market would deliver if not for the artificial scarcity created due to government regulations.
Also, excessive government regulations are closer to communism than a more free market would be.
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>>16537928
If you turn Westwood into Somalia, rents will indeed go down because no one with the ability to leave will remain there.
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>>16537930
>Free market = somalia
Kys commie
Tokyo has laxer housing regulations and it does infact help reduce rent.
These retarded regulations did not exist in the past
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>>16537945
There's no freer market on Earth than Somalia. Japan is very far from being a free market. Your talking points are inconsistent and nearly random.
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>>16539023
Tokyo's housing market is more free than in American cities, which is the point.
It's a spectrum. Tokyo has a more right wing housing market than the US which makes thing more affordable due to increased supply.
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>>16440581
He's an adjunct with few publications. He should have quit academia long ago, he doesn't have the ability for it. I call for a total shutdown on PhD-granting from low-tier institutions.
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>>16539236
Low tier in physics = Not Harvard MIT Caltech Princeton Stanford Berkeley Chicago in the US btw. It's probably over for you if you weren't good enough to get into one of these.
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>>16441832
>able to attract top tier researchers to their physics department
According to the AIP who theoretically represent Physics peeps, only 17% of doctorate grads can get a job of any sort in the field, so simply offering a paid job to "do physics" instead of something else ALREADY gets them only 8 out of 10 or better applicants. There's so few jobs in the field that over 4 in 5 degree holders will not work in the field, kind of wild to think about.
At least half of the K12 education degree kids eventually get a job as a school teacher.
Obviously a company doing computer programming would hire a guy with a CS degree but plenty of physics degree holders used to make it into programming jobs as second class employees.
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Testing a [ math ] test [ /math ]
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>>16440581
Did his house burned down in the fire?
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>>16537424
Something tells me it shouldn't be that expensive in East LA or Compton.
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>>16542252
Yes, cardboard is not fire resistant.
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>>16542270
Now he's not going to get a chance to find out. Bet he moves back in with his parents until he finally accepts a position at Stinkwater State College.
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>>16542281
What about if it's soaked in hobo urine?
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>>16441786
I love UC Davis!! I think we're the best University of California school by virtue of our geography
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>>16543978
That's 90% alcohol, so it only makes it more flammable.
>>16544038
Join the PAC before Sac State snags the opportunity.
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>>16441786
>Why does an astronomy program need to be
Thats where you should've quit, astronomy is a completely useless field of study, it has no possible use or application, all the potential value has been squeezed out of the field since ages ago.
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>>16511626
>in-staters
do illegal immigrants get in-state tuition?
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>>16549059
In California they do as long as they're state residents. You don't have to be in the country legally to be a state resident.
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>>16550089
so anyone who pays out of state tuition is a massive cuck since anyone can just claim they're an undocumented california resident
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>>16553197
California loves people who are in the US illegally but they have pretty strict requirements for proving you're a state resident. You need at least a year's worth of proof that you reside in the state and engage in economic activity there (if you're an adult) or attended a California high school for at least a year. Receiving social benefits is one way of proving economic activity but having a lease, a year of utility bills, and several other indicators can be used to build a case for yourself.



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